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  2. Delano

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    You and I are sharing our perspective. That's not the whole story. I have made am intellectual observation which is neither psychological nor emotional .
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  4. Troy

    Black Women Are Beautiful Naturally

    I know Hunts Point well. Us fatherless boys used to cruise up there for fun. Hookers would be on the stroll stark naked! There were strip clubs galore (whore houses in actuality). Uniformed police would be at the door. I always thought about the people who lived in thbe area. I mean they had plenty of hookers walking street where i lived too, but hunts point was off the chain.
  5. Troy

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    Come on man, you are really going off the deep end here. First, you have limited experience with forums including this one. The lack of partipcipation is due to a wide variety of factors, the least of which is our manner of communication. A decade ago the forum had much more controversy and the posts were so racy Google banned me from serving ads on the entire domain. Look it up, it is still online http://thumperscorner.com there were far more regular posters then and forum was often laugh out loud funny. @Cynique am i lying? Why so morose all of a sudden?
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  7. Delano

    Black Women Are Beautiful Naturally

    My first home was Hunts Point in the South Bronx. And at 5 I remember seeing kids sniff glue. Hunts Point is still famous for prostitution. We had to pass them coming home at night. Up until about 2005 I still had relatives in Hunts Point.
  8. Troy

    Black Women Are Beautiful Naturally

    OK @Mel Hopkins I misunderstood what you were objecting to. When I wrote "women can't raise boys," I did not mean all attempts would be abject failures, as demonstrated by Joy Thomas Moore. What I really meant is that a woman's effort would be optimized with a male partner.
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    Secrets End

    I recently read an incredible book titled Secrets End by an another named Ronald Hale. This book changed my life. I would recommend it to anyone who is ready to live
  10. Delano

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    Why do I have to defend the idea of being respectful to one another? And you wonder why more women don't post. Thank you again for an illuminating discourse. Respect isn't about how I feel it's about how the other person feels. This inability for empathy or consideration for the other person's needs and feelings are akin to the approach of racists, sexists and misogynists. Who can't see their actions clearly either.
  11. Mel Hopkins

    Black Women Are Beautiful Naturally

    @Troy Then actually you don’t stand by the generalization and that was my only complaint. By the way, those successful men who praise their mothers publicly aren’t required to do so. They do so because they believe she was responsible for their outcome - so there’s that - and since you promoted Ms. Moore’s book - you helped me prove that point too. Just think, how many others didn’t write a book but raised successful men. So while you may disagree thank you for the additional support. And of course, I’m grateful for my dad being in the “home”. (Quotation because most men work a lot outside of the home so they don’t get to raise the children anyway) - and any dad who remains a present in their child’s life... It was my dad who taught me to meet people where they are ... and to be bold yet vulnerable ... so yeah of course, well-adjusted dads are always necessary in the home. @Troy Ok we agree here... because it was my dad who helped me to channel mine! Socioeconomic reality... I always forget about that part. My bad. Carry-on.
  12. Troy

    Black Women Are Beautiful Naturally

    I can think of many who are dead. I don't blame the mothers thought most of whom did the best they could...
  13. Troy

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    That is what I want to know. Don't hold your breath LOL! Yes I think Disney host a discussion forum... @DelanoI have yet to be on a discussion forum that at some point did not become confrontational? One the website proper I'm often attacked. This posts I generally delete because they service no purpose. Recently on one of the sites web pages someone left this comment: https://disqus.com/home/discussion/aalbc/books_by_african_american_or_black_writers_coming_out_soon_62/#comment-4340853637 "It is astonishing to me that you have no poetry on this list by the Cave Canem..." Out the gate the guy was hyper-critical, but I left the message because it gave me an opportunity to correct him and help others understand the site better. As part of the exchange I actually discovered an poetry I was previously unaware of who I've since dded to the site. I've said it before -- you can;t learn from someone who agrees with everything you believe. Often I observe people who take out rude and critical often change their tune when I reply -- they realize this site actually has an individual behind it. Sometime people just want to vent. In the early days of the net "flame wars" was a common thing. But you probably don't recall those days.
  14. Troy

    The Jussie Smollett Incident

    Such bizarre behavior. Clearly the young man needs help. Obviously the media would run with a story like this -- it is their bread and butter.
  15. Cynique that is all true, but why is most of the stuff we get awarded for by the majority culture usually something negative. Denzel got an award for playing a villain too. The music award was a song about a pimp. I heard stripper turned, rapper, Cardi B, got a Grammy award. I'm not exactly proud of the role or the film, despite all the accolades white folks heaped upon it. As much as I griped about the lovefest surrounding Stan Lee's world of Wakanda that film was FAR more preferable than "Precious."
  16. Delano

    Black Women Are Beautiful Naturally

    A lot of the boys without Dads end up with drug problems. I can think of about six that I knew about in our circle.
  17. Troy

    Black Women Are Beautiful Naturally

    @Mel Hopkins I stand by the generalization and we'll agree to disagree. It is better for an man to be involved in a boy's upgrading than a woman alone. Indeed I think it is true for girls too. Sure some women are better than others at handling the task but "in general" it is sub-optimal. I would don't go by what people say in public, what successful dude trashes his mom?! Of course they'd praise her. I just posted a review of a book by Joy Thomas Moore who successfully raised a by by herself. In fact, I selected it for AALBC reading list., because it is a great story, but it was instructive too. Joy's was a remarkable mother but she was truly exception woman as was her son, Wes Moore (of The Other Wes Moore fame), was too. While Wes rearing was well done and the outcome spectacular, both mother and son would have preferred a father in the house. I'll leave it to you to speculate why. @Delano on my block is was mostly two parent households -- indeed it was a requirement when you moved into the projects. My father was away most of the time, so honestly it was like growing up without a father. Yes, I think I lost something. Rather than channeling my natural aggression and competitiveness it was viewed as an undesirable characteristic. I had to learn about everything from nocturnal emissions to how to deal with women, either on my own or in the streets. @Pioneer1 some women will call a brother a weak, broke-ass nigger in a heart beat. Walking down the streets of Harlem I've women scream this to guys in the street. I'm not sure anyone here really appreciates what it is like to grow up in an urban, crime-ridden, impoverished, segregated, ghetto -- and that is a very good thing. See when you have plenty of money, a comfortable home, good schools, and security, it is a lot easier for a woman to raise a child. But when a woman does not have these things, raising child becomes a hell of a lot more difficult and much more so for the boys. they are less likely to graduate fro college.more likely to go to jail, and die at a younger age... in general.
  18. Delano

    Black Women Are Beautiful Naturally

    Where are the Dads? On my block it was two parents. Amongst family and family friends less so. Did you have a two parents household? If not, did it make you deficient?
  19. Delano

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    Pioneer if you are still waiting for an apology maybe You should think about frequenting more moderated discussions, where the discussions aren't so confronting.
  20. Delano

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    You are wrong. This is a public forum and that was a toxic display of Black self hatred. Which had a negative impact on everyone on the site. You don't have a sense of perspective beyond your own feelings and experience. Thise arent leadership qualities Pioneer. You exceed in rhetiric but your logic is faulty at least in my opinion. When Black men talk about the solutions for Black people. And i think one of two things generally. They should learn to listen and develop both compassion and understanding. Or just let women run things. Read a little about Huey Newton, up until the drugs he did both, he married his desire to protect Black people with a vision a plan and action. I agree with Troy get out beyond your circle. It will expand your perspective. It worked for countless Black Musicians and el-Hajj Malik el-Shabazz or not. He was clear about looking for and exploiting weakness. He doesn't respect or fear you enough to apologise. You are the only person he turned out on the page. He found that chink in your armour. Which is obvious because displays of strengths also illuminate weakness.
  21. Cynique

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    If that was the case on this site, you would've been banished long ago. You are not a threat to the woman on this board. You are still around because you provide us with ongoing opportunities to debunk the dumb ideas of the type of men you are representative of. LOL
  22. Cynique

    The Jussie Smollett Incident

    @Pioneer1Oh puleeze. Anything to blame the media and exonerate a black man, - even a gay one. The Chicago Police Department bent over backwards to treat Jussie fairly because they knew they were under scrutiny by the entire nation due to their bad reputation. Bottom line, if Jussie hadn't done what he did, none of this would be happening to him and you wouldn't have to be trotting out your usual paranoid theories. Jussie is being punished for his stupidity, and he is solely to blame for the damage he has done to the credibility of the black and gay communities. All because he didn't think Empire was paying him enough money.
  23. Pioneer1

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    But that was between me and him. I didn't ask for any moderator to get involved with that situation or to resolve it. ..and I'm STILL DEMANDING AN APOLOGY!. What you're asking for is for Troy to have a more hands-on approach and possibly discipline/punish people who don't show what YOU believe to be respect. And this also goes more into what I've frequently said about why so many women like other heavily moderated websites where they can point out people they don't like and have then punished or banned.
  24. Pioneer1

    Black Women Are Beautiful Naturally

    Mel Interesting........ Very interesting. Troy & Mel As for what you two were talking about, Ofcourse a woman can raise a boy to be a man as in being an "adult male"; but a GOOD MAN who can adequately protect and provide for himself and his children...few women can actually do that. Infact, usually if he is raised by a single mother, it he DOES end up being a GOOD MAN who can adequately provide for and protect himself and his family it's because he learned it from OTHER MEN in his environment and not his mother. Chev I share Troy's observation that none of the stories you provided answered my question about what a Black man did that was MORE CONTROLING and MORE DISRESPECTFUL than what that White man acting as principle did to you in highschool. The only thing that comes close as an example of how a Black man actually mistreated a Black woman was your last one, but it wasn't done to YOU. Worse, what I think you're attempting to do is cloud the issue by introducing Ariana Grande, how Black men date White women, and everything else under the sun rather than focus on the fact that you are justifying Mel's declaration that the best man is a White man. Troy Yes, Black men are also angry about being powerless but they express their powerlessness in different ways. Most Black men who feel powerless will try to GET SOME; where is most Black women who are angry at the Black men in their lives for being powerless will make every excuse in the world for why she doesn't like or respect him EXCEPT for admitting that he's weak and broke.
  25. Something about this entire case and the way the media is covering it doesn't sit right with me..... First of all, even before the media started calling it fake and Smollet was arrested, different bits and pieces of information were being leaked by the media from the start to make people question the case. This makes me wonder if the mainstream media KNEW more about this story being "fake" from being begining and just ran with it anyway. And if so, WHY would they intentionaly follow a false story. Secondly, he's being arrested and charged with filing a false police report that is being called a felony and people are claiming he's facing time in jail. People constantly file false police reports but aren't being imprisoned for it, so why is HE being treated so much harshly? What I'm concerned about is could this case be an EXCUSE to either ignore future claims of racial violence as being "fake" and phony, or a way of intimidating people from reporting actual cases of hate crimes in the future?
  26. I disagree. Monique played a role that was essential to the plot of the movie and her character was more of a pitiful victim of circumstances, than a hard core villain. This is what actresses do; they play a role and the part is not always that of a heroine. The role Halle Berry played and received an Oscar for wasn't one that placed black women in a flattering light, but she embraced the character she played, - as any good actress does. The same can be said of the actress who played the obese, down-and-out Precious in Monique's movie, as well the subservient maid played by Viola Davis in "The Help". This has been the history of black actresses in Hollywood, but things are getting much better as sistas are stepping up in the industry and making a mark for themselves in front of and behind the camera.
  27. Mel Hopkins

    Black Women Are Beautiful Naturally

    @Troy please stop with the generalizations! There are far too many successful men who in public acknowledge they were raised by their mothers (ONLY). Still women don't raise "boys" they raise adults. Parents raise adults those who don't soon find they have grown-azz babies on their hands. AND it appears that @Chevdove knows her son and the young women he attracts better than he knows himself. She was well in her right to pull him aside and remind him of how this "fatal" attraction could go south...and then next thing you know we'd have a Justin Fairfax-like scandal. Note: Chevdove is his mother. Which is far different than the conversation we've had here where some men think it's their job to raise their love interest. 🤮
  28. Troy

    Black Women Are Beautiful Naturally

    They have "fraternaties" in high school now? What was the name of his? Was it purely social, service oriented, or some combination? Sorry Ma, you had no choice in the matter; your son was a grow man at this point. Remember, grown-ass-man. You can't bark orders: suggestions and advise sure, but don't treat him like a little boy. Your husband let you get away with this? I'm trying to get the moral of your stories but I keep getting tripped up thinking this is why men must raise boys with mothers -- women can't raise boys (not saying you were a single mother). I read all three stories but don't really understand what this has to do with respecting Black men relative to white ones which i thought was the point.
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