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@nels go back to sleep, Tiger, Tiger, - or Leopard, Leopard. Nobody takes me seriously. I'm just hangin' around here, bidin' my time. Bonas Nochas.

Yes. Always lingering in my thoughts when exposed to the intensity of Palestenian partisans excoriating those who don't support their cause, is that none of this would be happening if Palestinian terrorists hadn't disturbed that Israeli hornet's nest! In addition to all the many other things in this world that pet my peeve, are people who call themselves "woke". (And, keep all remarks about petting my peeve to yourself)

Seriously? ? Not exactly following your response, which doesn't seem (that) clear to me. One thing is likely more than certain, Black America appears destined to be permanently supplanted by others much sooner than it thinks and neither white Americans or conservatives for that matter can be blamed for the inevitable. The following may be just the tip of a very big iceberg. Chicago Citizens Confront Mayor Brandon Johnson About Proposal To Spend $70 Million More On Migrants https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WlQ-bToa7c

Seems to me that, dating back to the 1960s, Whites in general, and Conservatives, in particular, have relied on quotes by MLK and Malcolm X to shut Blacks down. All these "wolves in sheeps' clothing" needed to do when trying to placate or mute Blacks, was to tailor the words of Malcolm and MLK to bolster their arguments, and negroes would back off. In reality, neither of these 2 black sacro-sanct icons were infallible or right about everything, and time has taken the sheen off of some of the ideas they embraced. MLK was wrong about integration being the key to racial harmony, and Malcolm was duped by Elijah Muhammad and bamboozled by the Black Muslim version of Islam. Yet, to this day such manipulation continues and few Blacks opt to challenge any quotations attributed to Brother Malcolm or the Reverend Martin King and brought to their attention by those with ulterior motives. These 2 black leaders both lost their lives in the ongoing struggle that continues to this day. But their words live on and continue to haunt us. Seems to me.

you don’t consider graphic novels, literature? A day or two later, I did put it in the culture section but only because I wanted people to see the video.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/04/18/us/nypd-disperses-pro-palestinian-protest-columbia-university/index.html Hundreds of students at Columbia University are protesting the war in Gaza which they have a right to do. Yet, NYPD has been called today. The police have shown up up in riot gear and with buses ready to arrest the protestors. Israel is milking the October 7th Hamas attack against them. They are using that attack as justification to destroy Palestinians and claim Gaza. Apparently, Jews also have enough power to override free speech in the US. Terrorism laws are being used to arrest protestors supporting Israeli opposition. The US is already spending billions of dollars in taxpayer money to finance these conflicts around the world. Right now, a $95 billion dollar package providing additional funds and weapons to Israel and Ukraine and Indo-Pacific support is making its way through Congress. POTUS is ready to sign it on arrival. I'm glad most AfroAmericans remain neutral in these conflicts. Not our fight or issue. However, we should be taking notes. Intel could be used as receipts in the future.

Why is this in the literature sections? shouldn't it be in the culture section?

There are public and private sector jobs and entrepreneurial opportunities as well. It really comes down to the knowledge, skills and abilities of the individual and their willingness to relocate and hustle. Plenty folks have already left NYC for greener pastures south of it. I'd be kinda surprised if former NYers haven't sent kites back to the city spreading the word that places like DC, Charlotte, ATL and Houston are popping.

@Troy I see. You and I have different definitions to the word mecca. And that is why I said the following https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/10751-these-black-mayors-arent-powerless/?do=findComment&comment=66656 I quote myself that depends on how you define a mecca but thank you Troy I comprehend in this group I have made a devastating error. For too long I use words in my own way but don't add adjectives explaining these are my definitions. And so it invites others who definitions are different to then come with their definitions but their definitions don't match mine and this our dialog's positions don't align. Based on your definition of mecca you are correct troy. Yes, but not based on my definition. And we both are keeping our won definitions so we each are correct plus incorrect. I will state how I define mecca. A mecca to me isn't a place that draws people. Any place draws people. I call that a condition of any place as a gathering spot. I define a mecca as a place that has intrinsic value to a race of people regardless to if they are drawn to it physically. I base my definition on the role of Mecca to the muslim heritage which is the source of the word. Muslims pray towards mecca, they honor mecca regardless of being able to go to mecca. It is not a gathering spot. it is a revered place to Muslims regardless of whether they go to it or not. Harlem by my definition of Mecca is not a mecca and NYC is not a white mecca. Again, Troy you plus others , not me plus others, define race as phenotype. Based on your definition of race I speak incorrectly or dysfunctionally. based on my definition of race I speak correctly or functionally. The following is my definition of the word race which are from my parents, my first teachers, plus the books I learned about words from. The word race does not mean phenotype. Phenotype means appearance. Race means a characteristic similarity, it can be any characteristic; it can be gender [male/female/hermaphrodite] , clan[your last name] , language [anglo/laltino/sino] , geographic [african/european/asian], religion [ christian/buddhist/muslim/vodun], nativity [ indigenous/immigrant/migrant], and yes phenotype[black,white, mullato, arab, mestizo,dark, light ] and based on my definition of the word race, all humans have a set of racial labels based on their characteristics. So I am a black male anglo harlemite , four different races : phenotype/gender/language/geography . I have more but I said this for explanatory purposes. Now I am not asking anyone else to use words as I use them or define words as I use them but I will continue to use definitions of words in a manner I find most correct. @ProfD can you describe the better financial opportunities south of NYC? I want to tell black people offline about them

You just now getting around to asking that question @frankster?

I was in a rush and using a laptop that was being uncooperative.. Yes and you did..... That is the same one that Racist poster provided a while back!? Make me question where you are getting your info. Guilty as charge.... It was fun diving into Muslim holy script..... hadn't done it in a while. Did not want you to go away with the wrong impression...That the Hadith only said Muhammad was white - Racist love to leave you with that idea. Was hoping you would also give me the opportunity to go into the Hindu scriptures as well...last time I was trying to prove it was the cause of colorism/shadeism in India. Now it seems I am on the other side of the fence but not really. It did come as a welcome surprise to see you quoting scripture Yeah....I get that a lot and there is some truth in that. Don't we all?? I am Going with a Brown Man - of African Arabian descent. It matters to me And I love it when you bring evidence to back up your assertions....and you must expect me to do the same.

Malcolm X understood that both the fox and the wolf were running around in the same forest. Liberals (Democrats) and conservatives (Republicans) are two sides of the same coin. Neither party is interested in doimg much of anything for AfroAmericans.

frankster My "turn"??? You asked me to provide you with Hadith that said Prophet Muhammad was a White man. I did. Instead of it satisfying you, you ran around the internet digging up multiple and often contradictory Hadith that claims Muhammad was Black, Brown, AND White..lol. Which pretty much supports my position of why I don't f' with religion anyway. There is too much contradiction and confusion in most organized religions for them to supposedly "come from God". But you can choose whichever Hadith you like or supports your belief. If you want to believe Muhammad was a Black man, a Brown man, or even a White man....be my guest. Because not just in this particular case, but now that I look back over the years......it appears that around here.....it doesn't matter too much whether I'm right or not; nor does it matter how much evidence I bring to prove my assertions.

"What Malcolm X thought about liberals": Was Black America Listening? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E55kQfachBQ - - - "The Ballot or the Bullet": A Binary Option for Black America? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ballot_or_the_Bullet

Ever since I was a kid, I found it interesting that Black folks didn't see anything *wrong* with that sh8t. Imagine a 7-year-old boy running telling grown-ups they were stupid for trying to sell him on Santa Claus and them believing in that white man on the picture. Of course, that resulted in a few azz whuppings for me but I wasn't broken.

Right. Hopefully, the algorithm won't attract racist trolls. There's no shortage of white folks directing vitriol towards OJ's ashes. It really burns them up to believe OJ got away with murder despite their legal system acquitting him.

There are definitely better financial opportunities for Black folks in places south of NYC. Good luck tapping into the money up there.

Mecca is a place that draws many people. I don't understand how you are defining "non phenotypical racial groups." By definition races are based upon phenotype. NYC is becoming a city for the wealthy and most of these people are white. Middle class and poor people are leaving, and a disproportionate number of these people are Black. Cities like Atlanta, Charlotte, et al, are becoming a Mecca for Black people in much the same way Harlem was one a century ago.

@Troy based on how you define a mecca, do non phenotypical racial groups have mecca's in the usa? for example latinos [who can have any phenotype] or asians[ who can have any phenotype]?

Sorry in my haste I made a mistake. @Pioneer1 wrote that the following is sufficient to make you a Christian. The point I was trying to make is being brought up by Christian parents does not make one a Christian, you have to be “saved.” You must profess acceptance of Christ and be baptized. That is what I was taught in the Baptist church, but of course there are more denominations of Christianity than I can name and they are all practice differently. But as it’s always the case, it is a waste of time trying to Expose @Pioneer1 to anything different to what he already believes. I don’t think he’s ever changed his position on anything. This makes it impossible for one to learn new things. It was pointed out that Christianity has a basis in Africa, and despite all the evidence to this pioneer rejects this outright. I know a lot of us grew up with the portrait of the white Jesus hanging in our homes. I bet Pioneer still has his hanging up. and that’s cool with me if he brings him solace.

Harlem was a Mecca for black people but this was fleeting and these sort of things changes over time. NYC has been a Mecca for write people for a few hundred years now, I don’t see it changing in the next hundred. NYC’s population is on the decline. The decline in black people, as a percentage of population, is even greater. I see this continuing perhaps accelerating for sometime too. We are in the midst of a reverse migration out of the north to the south.

@Troy that depends on how you define a mecca I have never defined a mecca to any people through the lens of those who are most financially fortunate. The mecca of islam isn't revered because financially fortunate muslims travel their on caravans or planes of gold from somewhere else. It is revered because even the fiscally poorest muslim sees in mecca the spiritual homeland of their people. NYC in my view is not a mecca for whites or specifically white statians. In the same way Harlem was never a mecca for blacks or specifically black dos. well, you say take over but harlem was white before it was black, it was native before it was white. Everybody black who lived or lives in harlem should know this from their black parents. And modern harlem is probably the finest example of a phenotypically/linguistically/religiously mixed region in nyc. I don't know nyc has alot of problems Troy. First, NYC is going to have an explosion in populace in a decade or two that to be blunt has no way to be anything but a horde of fiscally poor people unless some financial event occurs.

isn’t it though? If you are an upper middle class white person in New York City you can take advantage of everything it has to offer live anywhere you like, and benefit from all the explicit and implicit cultural biases. obviously, they have every intention on maintaining this. they take over of Harlem from Central Park moving north is evidence of this. I think we will see in our lifetime dismantled or privatization of all of the housing projects running from the East river to Lenox Avenue between 112 and 110th St.

I noticed that too @Delano. On some level, that imperfection made her more human I know it’s too late to ask because you know the answer but if I didn’t say anything, would you have suspected for a split second at this was all generated by AI?