BEGIN:VCALENDAR VERSION:2.0 PRODID:-//InvisionCommunity Events 5.0.18//EN METHOD:PUBLISH CALSCALE:GREGORIAN REFRESH-INTERVAL:PT15M X-PUBLISHED-TTL:PT15M X-WR-CALNAME:RMCommunityCalendar NAME:RMCommunityCalendar BEGIN:VTIMEZONE TZID:Europe/London TZURL:https://tzurl.org/zoneinfo/Europe/London X-LIC-LOCATION:Europe/London BEGIN:DAYLIGHT TZOFFSETFROM:+0000 TZOFFSETTO:+0100 TZNAME:BST DTSTART:20250330T020000Z RRULE:FREQ=YEARLY;BYMONTH=3;BYDAY=-1SU END:DAYLIGHT BEGIN:STANDARD TZOFFSETFROM:+0100 TZOFFSETTO:+0000 TZNAME:GMT DTSTART:20251026T020000Z RRULE:FREQ=YEARLY;BYMONTH=10;BYDAY=-1SU END:STANDARD END:VTIMEZONE BEGIN:VEVENT SUMMARY:Tiktok and Fanbase january 24th 2025 DTSTAMP:20250124T061952Z SEQUENCE:0 UID:158-7-c3fe8195a3dde498d013e477e2142422@aalbc.com ORGANIZER;CN="richardmurray":noreply@aalbc.com DESCRIPTION:\n Tiktok and Fanbase january 24th 2025\n\n\n\n https://aalb c.com/tc/topic/11431-tiktok-service-restored-ban-suspended/#findComment-71 288\n\n\n\n \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n IF YOU DONT WANT TO CLICK THE LINK ABOVE\n \n\n\n  \n\n\n\n @Pioneer1\n\n\n\n \n   On 1/19/2025 at 5:42 PM\, Pio neer1 said:\n \n\n \n \n I didn't know it was owned by the Chinese gov ernment.\n\n \n\n Why did our government even ALLOW it's citizens to h ave access to it in the first place if they considered it such a threat?\n \n \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n tiktok was never owned by the chinese government\ , the firm that owns it in china is bytedance. The issue with china is the chinese constitution which is not in its first iteration but fourth\, spe cifically gives\, from the first iteration\,  the chinese government cont rol over any firm for the interest of china. This stems from the china bei ng split into parts by outsiders including the usa before mao. No firm doi ng business in china or based in china is about the chinese government\, i t is their law\, from their first constitution and has survived each const itutional restructuring. \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n The reason is simple\, most foreign websites simply don't do well. If you look at the internet all the major english speaking websites are from the usa\, france/germany/uk/russ ia have all tried but the english market is dominated by usa websites unti l bytedance took their short video social media service\, duayin [bad angl icized spelling] and made tiktok. Then the implications hit the usa govern ment. The funny thing is\, in parallel\, the chinese government by its own law\, can never allow a firm to do business in china that doesn't have a security arrangement with the government of china. \n\n\n\n Remember the usa federal government from its very infancy was never designed to be proa ctive. Rememeber\, the articles of confederation was the first idea\, and that was merely a militaristic function and nothing more at the federal le vel. Yes\, the constitution gives the executive branch powers\, but from t he cia/fbi to executive order usa growth\, to the expansion of the federal military and the expansion of powers to the president under national secu rity or others\, the federal government has grown beyond what it was inten ded. The idea was the governments of the states would be strong and the fe deral government would be this military protector to them. The federal gov ernment of the usa was never designed to be a centralized authority\, like the chinese government from mao. Outside of military affairs the usa fede ral government is very reactionary\, meaning let problems occur in the mar ket and then fix them.\n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n @Troy\n\n\n\n \n   On 1/21/20 25 at 12:03 AM\, Troy said:\n \n\n \n \n TikTok is for children\;\n \n \n\n\n\n  Tiktok is for adults. It has the best numbers for youth amon g the big websites\, especially in the usa but tiktok is heavily used by a dults to.\n\n\n\n From my point of view\, it is what twitter is to bloggin g. The short video si what youtube never was able to implement correct. Ti ktok got it correct and the algorithm tkiktok uses is key.I know quite a f ew artists \, adult artists of various genres on there. Email newsletters is the way\n\n\n\n do you want a follow on fanbase? tell me how the migrat ion goes for you\, i have far less tiktok content\n\n\n\n  rmemeber when facebook went down for a day.. this is the modern reality\, people who hav e their money or their lives tied into the esocial services such that thei r pausal is devastating\n\n\n\n @ProfD\n\n\n\n \n   On 1/21/2025 at 12: 20 AM\, ProfD said:\n \n\n \n \n Grown azz influencers were whining about losing income if TikTok went dark.\n \n\n \n  \n \n\n \n I saac Hayes III created Fanbase which is a black-owned alternative to Tik Tok.\n \n \n\n\n\n whining:) the influencer industry is a multimillion do llar industry:) I wonder why you use the word whining?\n\n\n\n Ahhh the \ n\n\n\n \n\n\n\n I am late so all his talk of early is wasted \n\n\n\n ht tps://www.fanbase.app/@RMfanbase\n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n UPDATES\n\n\n\n  \n\n \n\n Fanbase has audio rooms\n\n\n\n https://www.fanbase.app/audio/room2_a 0e97793-0be3-45ae-bb56-d51802db3eb9\n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n and Tiktok now has been sold to a private set of investors in a private contract\, with Oracl e of Austin Texas\, who handle networks for CIA+FBA+NSA+others handling so me data storage systems. But the full details I don'tknow. \n\n\n\n  \n\ n\n\n 1/24/2026\n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n Citation\n\n\n\n https://aalbc.com/tc/t opic/12355-black-owned-online-social-media-websites-future-what-is-their-f uture/#findComment-79623\n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n sted just now\n\n\n\n @ProfD  \n\n\n\n   4 hours ago\, ProfD said:\n\n\n\n Producing a Black-owned social media website is relatively easy. Getting Black foks to use it is the bigger challenge.\n\n\n\n really? \n\n\n\n monthly rent for hosting d ata\, data transmisions\, cost more than a dollar? if the site becomes pop ular you have to support that popularity with more expensive backend.\n\n\ n\n the likes of facebook and tiktok have huge silos or network systems al l over the world to simulate instantaneous use\, that is easy? the money t o get that is easy? \n\n\n\n ok\, i don't think it is easy at all. \n\n\ n\n And\, considering how many websites have failed\n\n\n\n @Troy what pe rcent of websites have succeeded that have been made since the 1990s in th e internet? I say less than one hundreth of a percent.  I think that prov es getting anyone to use a website is a challenge. Which makes sense to me . A website has to have a function. Tiktok does short videos. youtube does long videos. twitter does bylines. facebook is where whole clans are conn ected online. instagram does photos. google is a search engine. Each major website serves a strict function. yes\, you have niche players\, like a t umblr/aalbc/deviantart that all serve specific or more detailed functions. yahoo search is still active. but I think most websites are failures so I don't see why most black websites being failures is anamolistic? \n\n\n\ n  \n\n\n\n @Pioneer1\n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n   3 hours ago\, Pioneer1 sai d:\n\n\n\n I've said time and time again that one of the problems a lot of our people...especially a lot of women....have with this site is that the re is too much personal freedom to post and say what you like with very li ttle moderation.\n\n Troy is very light handed when it comes to being a mo derator.\n\n \n\n Conventional wisdom would say that having the freedom to post your opinions freely is a good thing that would attract people by th e thousands.\n\n A true expression of freedom of speech and thought.\n\n \ n\n However because of the angry and vindictive nature of a lot of our peo ple\, this produces the opposite effect.\n\n \n\n People like to be able t o get you in trouble.\n\n They like to get your posts deleted or even get you blocked/banned if you say something they don't like.\n\n You see it al l over social media where you come on a channel or show and you say someth ing the crowd doesn't like or agree with....instead of ignoring you or tol erating you....they alert the moderators and tell them to block or ban you .\n\n It's the culture now.\n\n A culture of intolerance.\n\n \n\n Those s ame people get mad as hell for being blocked for expressing THEIR opinion on a matter\, but they'll then turn around and insist that it's fair and d emand the same punishment for other of a differing opinion.\n\n This is th e very juvenile and extreme thinking of a lot of people.\n\n \n\n So a sit e where they can't run and tattle tale to a mod or point the finger at som ebody and make them vanish isn't very attractive to them.\n\n \n\n Some of the things you and I have said on this site....we would have been banned our first WEEK on Lipstick Alley\, lol.\n\n \n\n \n\n Plus....let's keep i t real.....\n\n \n\n A lot of our people don't like sites where Black men are in charge.\n\n Going back to our sistaz again.\n\n Some of our sistaz don't like spaces where the ultimate authority is a Black man.\n\n They'll accept it from a White man or even another Black woman\, but the idea of a Black man holding power over what goes on or who goes and who stays....t hey don't like.\n\n \n\n I've known some who didn't want to even WORK for a Black man.\n\n Nearly all of them had daddy issues.\n\n But the very ide a that a Black man signed their pay check and told them what to do and cou ld punish them\, they didn't like at all.\n\n They were so used to dissing Black men growing up and telling them to kiss their ass....for a brutha t o have that type of authority didn't sit well with them.\n\n \n\n I know w hat I'm saying may sound extra\, but it's the real deal when it comes to w hy the traffic on this and other Black ran sites are often light.\n\n\n\n Expand  \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n I am paraphrasing the mariner from the film w aterworld\, \"I have traveled farther than most online and I have never se en a websites failure based on anything but its effectiveness\" \n\n\n\n In my travels\, I have seen a number of chinese websites fail\, japanese w ebsites fail\, french websites fail\, brasilian websites fail. usa website s fail.  What they each have in common is not some demographic group hurt ing them\, but each failed or has failures or has become niche because the function they served another website served better or more robustly. \n\ n\n\n When I look at black owned websites online.\n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n First and foremost I can't recall one black owned website that had a technologi cal edge or focus. \n\n\n\n Youtube emphasized videos. Tiktok short video s. Google search. Neither was the first to do it. Other websites before yo utube did videos but they didn't emphasize the technology\, the investment was small\, it was more toy than function. Tiktok the same. youtube liter ally did a short video service three years before tiktok\, it failed and y outube shut it. Now youtube has shorts in response to tiktok\, but what is the point. Tiktok invested in short video in a scale that gave it an edge or focus. Google wasn't the first search engine but again they focused on it\, gave it an edge that others didn't. When I look at Yahoo for example \, which started as a web directory. Yahoo's great flaw  in their financi al history was that they gave up on web directories. they assumed falsely\ , that the growth of the internet would make a directory unfeasible but I think they were wrong. I argue the internet could use a great web director y. And then yahoo led in email but again\, didn't implement email's better over time. \n\n\n\n Blackplanet never had a technological edge\, its who le selling point was a place for black people but it didn't offer a techno logical edge. So most black people looking to make videos went to youtube. Wanting a search used google. Sharing photos on the phones used instagram . \n\n\n\n Chatgpt\, right? it is the llm use. Technological edge first a nd foremost leads people to anywebsite and for all the black engineers who are lauded in media for graduating from MIT or working for Goldman Sachs \, I don't see any of them with any websites ideas. \n\n\n\n And yes\, te ch cost money on the backend\, but again\, this isn't 1926\, 2000 wasn't 1 900\, some black people were billionaires so....no excuse.\n\n\n\n AALBC d oesn't have a technological tool that isn't present anywhere else\, if it did\, that would help. \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n Second\, when I look at the in ternet and websites that are communally driven\, most work because the cul ture of the particular peoples is out the sphere of anglo media. Meaning w hat? Overdrive was supposed to be France's answer to the social media\, bu t most people in france went to facebook/instagram/twitter? why? is it bec ause white people in france don't like themselves. No\, it is \, because t he way they communicate wasn't different enough\, their culture wasn't dif ferent enough than what was offered in anglo media.  Black owned websites offer the same reality. Black people's culture or communication fits well enough in the anglo websites to exist. But if you are japanese/chinese wh o tend to have cultural websites because they have cultures/communication that doesn't fit the anglo internet as well. India doesn't have one major website\, and how many firms in the usa have indians all through them? why . because indians are usually anglophiles\, who culturally fit well into a nglo media. Indian or French websites aren't being hindered by the women i n their community \, their online populace simply fits well enough in angl o websites and it makes all of their websites niche\, like aalbc. I have t ried to find a black populace that needs an outlet\, that would help aalbc to serve a particular black populace. \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n Third\, userba ses\, Cristiano ronaldo is the most followed person online\, he gets paid by websites for his presence. And why do the websites pay\, because his pr esence brings users\, and the greater the userbase\, the greater the ad re venue\, the greater the userbase\, the greater the views to posts in gener al. AALBC hosts black authors\, who are barely in the forum. If Troy paid them they would be more\, as in the big websites who pay millions to peopl e like barrack obama to be active on their websites\, which helps their us erbase. Now\, AALBC as a niche website doesn't have to do that. But that i s the reality. Tiktok/Facebook/Instagram/Youtube/twitter/even schrumpfs tr uth social  all have big users who attract casual users. That is reality. It is uneven to ask AALBC or specifically Troy to pay people to engage. A nd you see this all over the internet. It isn't something rare.  So\, the userbase of AALBC absent attractors has limits of growth.If Beyonce+ Opra h+Neymar + Paul Kagame were on AALBC\, I think this website would have a h uge increase in usage. \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n So\, I don't see any blame in black women for AALBC's usage or lack thereof. I commend Troy for maintain ing this large rent. As most people who own a restaurant will tell you\, I am not doing this for the money\, I am doing this cause I love it. \n\n\ n\n But if AALBC could find a technological edge. If aalbc could reach a p articular black populace whose culture was away from the anglophone\, and needed particular attention. if AALBC could afford to pay for big attracto rs. That would change the volume\, not necessarily quality\, of activity o n the website in a positive way. \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n @Troy \n\n\n\n Inte resting\, how pervasive is lurking online? I see in discord many talk of l urkers. how many lurk online?\n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n 1/25/2026\n\n\n\n  \n\n\ n\n Citation\n\n\n\n https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/12355-black-owned-online-s ocial-media-websites-future-what-is-their-future/#findComment-79700\n\n\n\ n osted just now\n\n\n\n @ProfD \n\n\n\n   16 hours ago\, ProfD said :\n\n\n\n F*cebook was started by a teenager in a college dormitory.\n\n\n \n  \n\n\n\n M*crosoft was started by a college dropout.\n\n\n\n  \n\n\n \n Apple was started by a marketing wizard &\; his friend who was a wiz with electronics.\n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n Y*hoo &\; G**gle were started by nerds in silicon valley.\n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n Sure\, these companies have gr own into sprawling behemoths but they came from the proverbial mustard see d.\n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n IMO\, Black folks have the aptitude to invent things . Too few lack the entrepreneurial spirit. Seems easier to trade labor for wages.\n\n\n\n Expand  \n\n\n\n Filo + Musk who started yahoo are the on ly ones from truly financially humble beginnings. And\, to be even\, they got lucky. Again\, less than 1% of all websites failed. So\, the entrepren eurial spirit you are talking about failed many non blacks. so.. your argu ment on the whole is unfounded but... I continue\n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n Zucker burgs father offered his son a mcdonald's franchise \, how many black pare nts can do that or euqivalent for their children? please don't say it is c ommon for black parents to offer the next generation wealth. \n\n\n\n Gat es parents have always been on the boards of big companies\, how many blac k parents are on the boards of large companies while their children are in high school? please don't say it is common. And don't insult black histor y\, again\, black people have been blockaded from financial wealth by whit es in the usa from1 492 to 1980 nearest holistically. \n\n\n\n Jobs fathe r is from a fiscally wealthy syrian family. wozniak's father was an engine er for lockheed. Please don't say that they are financially common. \n\n\ n\n Page and BRin for Google had well connected and well off parents. work ing as engineers for nasa or colleges in the usa. How many black engineers have not been accepted at Nasa? that had every single thing a white engin eer did. Nasa is a great job for an engineer. You are connecting with big financial channels. \n\n\n\n All of them through their relatives or commu nities\, many are white jews or have white jewish background which has a f inancial aspect to it\, some are simply nepo babies\, that have money or a ccess to money\, like Musk\, who is also from a financialy wealth white cl an. \n\n\n\n You mention entrepreneurial spirit but don't mention lack of fiscally capable parents. \n\n\n\n I know few black people have fiscally aiding black parents. I know that. \n\n\n\n it is interesting to me how so many black people in the usa accept white power or white advantage but then in assessing black people\, blame ourselves as if the white people wh o are wealthiest in the usa\, aren't assisted by white power or white adva ntage but simply have the entrepreneurial spirit. It is very imbalanced\, or uneven thinking. \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n @Pioneer1\n\n\n\n I give blood to a blood bank\, five times a day. \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n @Troy \n\n\n\n    1 hour ago\, Troy said:\n\n\n\n 90% of social media visitors are lurke rs.  It is probably higher than that on some platforms.  How many of you actually created TicTok or YouTube video for the public but have used the platform.  The number of lurkers here is probably higher than 90% becaus e of some very popular posts generate a lot of traffic. \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n \n I have created youtube or tiktok videos to share my art\, but I am not the biggest user of either platform. There are a few youtubers I like beca use they are informative or interesting in the arts. \n\n\n\n I like Mayo wa's world cause she is a black natural haired woman who has insightful po sitions on black identity\, accented cinema cause he makes great posts on asian cinema. I like shadversity cause they develop weapons and test them and have helped me think on weapons in my own stories. So i admit as an ar tist youtube has some great educational folk. \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n What ar e your thoughts on what to do about lurkers? any ideas. I comprehend that bots have always been used to augment perceived activity on websites\, fro m the early 1990s.  Thinking on it for a minute\, from bots to paid real members of websites to now the llm identities\, the children of the bots\, so much activity online is augmented... two questions come to mind.\n\n\n \n  \n\n\n\n 1)Of the facebooks/twitter/youtubes/google searches/netflix or other\, how many of them used bots to augment their activity to appear positive? In my mind I begin to wonder\, how many websites failed cause th ey didn't invest in bots\, didn't invest in ways to augment popularity? If you augment popularity even if you aren't making money\, maybe you can ke ep the investments running\, especially in the dot com craze days\, the ea rlier eras of the internet when money flowed to these bleeding firms. \n\ n\n\n 2) what activity online has the least lurkers? I comprehend if one i s online it invites de facto lurking\, at least the possibility.  I guess email\, but I imagine you know\, if not through experience through confer ence with others. \n\n\n\n 3) should black owned websites invested in lur king more ? I remember when beyonce or jay-z had some media thing and it w as found out it had a bunch of bots\, but it seemed so late in the interne t\, like an old style bot drive that white people used ten years earlier?\ n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n 1/25/2026\n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n Cittion\n\n\n\n https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/12355-black-owned-online-social-media-websites -future-what-is-their-future/#findComment-79704\n\n\n\n osted just now\n\ n\n\n @ProfD \n\n\n\n   1 hour ago\, ProfD said:\n\n\n\n The successf ul keep getting back up &\; trying again. \n\n\n\n   2 hours ago\,  richardmurray said:\n\n\n\n And had help\, you never mention with the peo ple you call financially successful\, why do you always omit the help they got? \n\n\n\n What is that about?\n\n\n\n   1 hour ago\, ProfD said: \n\n\n\n Black folks collectively have enough wealth to invest in business es including  social media platforms.\n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n really\, again\, i have done economic corners going through the labor numbers white people themselves state\, most people in the usa aren't employed to live on thei r own without subsidy\, and that is all demographics. And then you add the number of black people in prison\, in institutions\, in the military whic h isn't profitable. \n\n\n\n The numbers don't add up to the wealth you s uggest the black populace in the usa has\, let alone any populace. the whi te populace doesn't have the wealth suggested by media. it isn't there. \ n\n\n\n The government gives people money \, that isn't their wealth. If y ou need government subsidy to afford your life you don't have wealth.  \ n\n\n\n You and other blacks keep saying financial lies like this on our p opulace in the usa\, I wonder what your agenda really is. Maybe your not b lack. \n\n\n\n   1 hour ago\, ProfD said:\n\n\n\n Do not continue try ing to tell me how to communicate.\n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n My patience isn't th at long before I become the most rude &\; insulting mf'er you could eve r read.\n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n if you insult\, i will call you out as an insul ter. I will ask you stop insulting black history if you do it\, every sing le time. I don't give strangers\, which is what you are to me\, demands. I don't know you. I am not trying to know you. We communicate online only. Now having said that\, be the most rude now\, you don't know me. so\, it i s no harm.\n\n\n\n   1 hour ago\, ProfD said:\n\n\n\n No more excuses. Billions of dollars go through Black folks hands every year.\n\n\n\n  \n \n\n\n what billions? black prisoners are getting billions\, from who? bla ck people on welfare are getting billions\, from who? black solders are ge tting billions\, from who? \n\n\n\n Numbers don't add up. How many black college graduates have thousand of dollars of student debt they will never be able to pay? who has this billions you are speaking of? \n\n\n\n whit e man says black people are 50 million people in the usa. so for fifty mil lion to make one billion a month is twenty dollars a month. Now\, cut out black children who aren't making any money. White man say twnety seven per cent are children. So fifty million minus thirteen million and five hundre d thousand gets you thrity six million and five hundred. Now white man say s 37% of black people are in prison or in jail in the usa. so... that is e ighteen million and five hundred. so let's subtract eighteen million and f ife hundred from thirty six million and five hundred which is the total bl ack populace minus the kids who aren't making any money. That gets you eig hteen million black people.  Comprehend thirty seven percent + twenty sev en percent is is sixty four percent\, who are children or in jail prison\, so no money. Now white man says one million and three hundred and thirty active soldiers are in the military and seventeen percent are black. so th hat is two hundred and twenty six thousand black folk who are making no mo ney as rank and file\, black generals are making money but their exact num ber i don't know and I will ignore. So that is now seventeen million\, sev en hundred and seventy four thousand. Now white man says twelve percent of black people in the usa are the elderly so between healthcost/rent/food a nd et cetera whether they use it themselves or have singed away their free dom\, willingly or unwillingly \, to a prison called an old folks home. th at is six million so\, seventeen thousand\, seven hundred and seventy four minus six million which is eleven million\, seven hundred and seventy fou r thousand. Now\, white man says\, twenty five percent of black people are on welfare which means they can't financially support themselves without aid from the government. So\, we have from the prior calculations eleven m illion seven hundred and seventy thousand minut twelve million and five hu ndred thousand. which is negative seven hundred and twenty six thusand. \ n\n\n\n If you notice\, between 27% children + 37% in jail+ 12% elderly + 25% welfare that is 101% or one hundred and one part of a hundred\, so wha t does this mean? \n\n\n\n If we hold the same statistics true from white s that black have billions of dollars per year\, it isn't the children\, b lack children earn twenty dollars a month? it isn't the people in prison. Prison labor is real but it is far below market rate\, ala slavery. and mo st prisoners don't work.  it isn't the elders with their costs\, they are looking for constant savings for rent or food or medicine because they do n't have it.  it isn't the soldiers\, soldiers stipend is over twenty dol lars a month. ok\, but taking soldiers out doesn't get the numbers positiv e\, and it is well known many/most soldiers use financial assistance. It o bviously isn't the people on welfare getting assistance. you can't say you earn money when you need assistance to live. the assistance is allowing w hat you earn to be spent other ways\, that means you are in the red and be ing augmented\, like goldman sachs. That isn't wealth.   But then who? A s I have always said\, and who has always existed in the usa\, or the engl ish colonies that preceded it. It is the black one percent. One percent of fifty million is five hundred thousand. Which means each of the five hund red thousand would have to make two thousand a month to get to a billion. yeah\, I can see that. \n\n\n\n The NFL has seventeen hundred athletes \, seventy percent are black. five hundred and thirty seven athletes in the nba. successful musicians like beyonce or jayz\, yeah. The numbers fit now . Black people like you have been saying erroneously\, that somehow the la rger village has billions. No\, children/in jail/elderly/welfare recipient /soldiers. none of the above can say they earn twenty dollars a month. But the black one percent: entertainers[athletes/musicans/pundits/agents]+ th e one percent of black elders with with like black enterprise folk mention + the black one percent of soldiers who are generals or captains with a ni ce bit of wealth+ black one percent of elected officials like Barrack Obam a and company yeah\, they can reach five hundred thousand and each are eas ily making over two thousand a month. Yeah\, your right\, ProfD\, the Blac k one percent is making billions per year. \n\n\n\n So please talk to the m\, but stop lying on the black financially common or impoverished masses.  \n\n\n\n and as was discussed in this very form\, the black one percent are a very financially stringent group\, they don't gamble. they don't ris k their money. they tend to invest with white cause that is safer than inv esting their own. So \, you already know what the black one percent is doi ng with their money. \n\n\n\n So thus ends your points\, cause no body el se black has money. \n\n\n\n   1 hour ago\, ProfD said:\n\n\n\n How m any engineering firms have Black folks started? \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n  \n\ n\n\n I know percy julian had to fight to get his chemistry firm started i n the 1900s and he couldn't do it in the usa because of white power\, and had to fight constantly for his business to even existeven while in mexico \, by white powers of the usa \, so if you are asking how many black owned engineering firms were started by DOSers when white folks allowed it in t he usa\, circa 1980. I imagine many black engineering firms have been star ted. . I offhand know of a black chipmaker who is in flux\, a black owned chemical firm who went out of business. As the cost of starting a business has always risen this isn't easy.  And white restriction to black empowe rment has never faded away completely. And\, I comprehend your larger poin t\, which is terrible fiscal management. Saturation isn't a wise strategy financially. You accept the odds of business success across racial lines p lus accept white power exists and is real\, though you seem to suggest it is diminished in value today\, which is the nitty gritty\, but this means you  your strategy is over saturation of business startups\, but that is financially irresponsible. As someone who has started a business and faile d\, I don't think black people starting tons of businesses in the usa is c lose to financially warranted and far from wise. \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n    1 hour ago\, ProfD said:\n\n\n\n The village collectively could invest i n its own people. \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n village has no money\, black one pe rcent can. if they want to. why don't you ask them\n\n\n\n   1 hour ago \, ProfD said:\n\n\n\n I don't believe you realize outside of New York t here are a high number of successful Black people. \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n ne w york by white mans own account and my own personal observations has more financially wealthy black people in it than any other city in the usa\, b ut that doesn't mean a majority of black people in the black populace of n yc are wealthy\, they are called the one percent. \n\n\n\n And the black one percent exists all throughout the usa\, but again\, that isn't the bla ck populace.\n\n\n\n   1 hour ago\, ProfD said:\n\n\n\n Successful Bla ck people see things from a different perspective.  One of the biggest ch allenges is getting our people to believe they can do better.\n\n\n\n  \n \n\n\n is that perspective you speak of based on truth or a lie. Belief is n't as important as facts financially. you can't believe money into existe nce\, that is a lie. You can't believe opportunity into existence\, that i s a lie. You can believe in yourself\, but assuming makes an ass out of yo u.\n\n\n\n   1 hour ago\, ProfD said:\n\n\n\n Understand that because I'm a successful FBA/AfroAmerican man of average intelligence\, I believe other Black folks can do it too. Just a matter of putting in the work.\n\n \n\n in my opinion\, very very few black people doubt black ability\, but black people don't doubt their eyes and the truth in their lives. \n\n\n\ n MAdam CJ walker was one hundred years ago\, the garveyites were older\, black people don't doubt what they can do\, at least the black people I am connected too offline. but the black people i am connected too offline do n't lie either and I don't ask them to lie. Wherever you live\, maybe you want black people to think they can turn water into wine but I don't ask b lack people to do that. \n\n\n\n Positive thinking is one thing \, false belief or lying to the environment your in or the experiences you had is a nother. \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n 1/25/2026\n\n\n\n Citation\n\n\n\n https://aa lbc.com/tc/topic/12355-black-owned-online-social-media-websites-future-wha t-is-their-future/#findComment-79728\n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n sted just now\n\n \n\n @ProfD\n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n   2 hours ago\, ProfD said:\n\n\n\n Enc ouraging Black people to do better does not diminish or insult our history . \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n I admit that I am speaking from a life o f comfort. It is easy to say people don't need encouragement when one has always been encouraged\, helped\, supported in their personal life\, by fa mily... not sanguine but family whether blood related or not. I do value e ncouragement less than in the black populace. I think about circa 1865\, w hen african methodist episcopal pastors were preaching encouragements to b lack people to use a nonviolent methodology. And I am against the heritage that created which persists to this day. The episcopal is a pastor\, epis copalians believe in the role and function of the pastor as a guide [this is opposed to the gnostics who believe no one individual can be as knowled geable about the spiritual affairs\, including pastors or popes] anyway\, the methodists believe in a life led by a lifestyle\, the bushido from the people of nippon is a similar idea. when i look at the AME heritage it fi ts. Black person acts as a guide to the black group by preaching persisita nce to a way of life\, in DOSers case\, it is nonviolent participation in the usa\, regardless of white activity and I admit I am sick of hearing it . I think it is dysfunctional. Black people don't need encouragement\, mos t black people need to presented ideas. The black people who spoke at the million man march was the same encouragement nonsense. A bunch of episcoop als of various religions or no religion\, preaching the continuance of the nonviolent method in the usa regardless of the usa or the white people in it.. I am tired of that. \n\n\n\n   2 hours ago\, ProfD said:\n\n\n\ n As I've mentioned before\, billions of dollars pass through Black church es every year.\n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n From who is my question\n\n\n\n Black ch ildren? no \, black children don't earn billions of dollars.\n\n\n\n Black prisoners? no\, how many prisons even have a chapel these days? \n\n\n\n Black welfare recipients? no\, they don't have income to dispose\, that i s why they are on welfare. They can't pay their standard bills so\, no way .\n\n\n\n Black elders? maybe some\, but how many. I can see the black eld ers who come to the old church in the city every sunday from their home in the suburbs. Quite a few of them\, all over the usa. yeah \, but they are a fraction of black elders\, a definitive minority. But the money is good .  \n\n\n\n Black soldierS? maybe\, i know many soldiers are religious. but soldiers have families\, tend to complain about cost of living. so i c an't imagine too many of them. Definitely\, the officers. but rank and fil e\, no way. \n\n\n\n Then I think about Barrack Obama sitting in that bla ck mega church\, that black guy with a mega church \"walk by faith not by sight\" I recall seeing that somewhere\, made me laugh. \n\n\n\n So\, yea h \, your right\, billions do go through the black churches\, from the bla ck one percent. And the black one percent is like the white one percent\, this isn't the whole \n\n\n\n black populace. At this moment in time\, It isn't that I challenge the presence of billions in the black populace in the usa\, but I challenge its source. It isn't the common black masses\, i t is the black one percent\, the black wealthy. and they are a very small but financially very wealthy populace so... talk to them. \n\n\n\n   2 hours ago\, ProfD said:\n\n\n\n It isn't the Black 1% pouring billions i nto churches &\; gross consumerism.\n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n Even enough\, I have made my case. The numbers fit in my case. The black one percent isn't a large populace BUT\, they have the financial scale to make the multitud e of billions per year. It fits them: black officers in the military\, bla ck elders of weallth especially from the black churches\, black entertaine rs \, black elected officials. black business owners with many of them net worked into the other groups. John Starks has one of the biggest dealershi ps in NY metropolitan area but a millionaire black athlete networked with other millionaire black athletes. I forge tthe former detroit piston who o wns a computer programming firm. yeah\, it all fits\, but they are all bla ck one percenters. the black wealthy. And I am 100% black churchs in NYC\, are very tribal. I knwo for a fact that many of them\, network opportunit ies amongst their specific tribes within the black village. I can see the black one percent fueling money into churches. Cause again\, NYC's black c hurches that are standing strong are attached to black one percenters . ma ny black churches have gone under\, but those were where regular folk\, fi nancially went\, thus no money.\n\n\n\n I am convinced that the black one percent is the source of the billions. Now maybe the white man is lying ab out the percentages\, but based on the percentages the white man has colle cted and the financial reality of prisoners/soldiers/children/welfare reci pients/black one percent\, the black one percent is the source of the bill ions.  \n\n\n\n Black one percenters do spend on vanity like all people with money. A cotillion is expensive. High end clothes are expensive. cars are expensive. I think you fiscally underestimate the cost of homes for t he black one percent. Those homes are expensive per month. Those homes the y have are gross /large consumerism. \n\n\n\n Now to be even\, the only g roup in the black populace in the usa who could have any significant consu merism is the black people on welfare. Black Teachers or nurses are on wel fare\, starting in the 1970s\, so black people working while on welfare is n't new it is very old. But\, I will not chagrin black poor people\,upper poor people\, affording themselves something to enjoy\, as gross consumeri sm. Consumerism\, yes\, but it isn't gross. I am 100% certain with those i know on welfare that 90% of black people on welfare don't have gross cons umerism\, if gross consumerism is defined as based on the fiscal scale of what is consumed\, not the presence of consumerism. Cause I happen to know there are some blacks who like to suggest gross consumerism is consumeris m itself\, which I oppose. \n\n\n\n In NYC\, it was recently unveiled tha t over 95% of white children in the orthodox jewish schools can't pass the basic state wide exams while they have schools full of trips around the w orld and game rooms and swimming pools. So\, for any blacks who feel that black children who passed and are passing their state exams at a hell of a higher rate with schools absent any amenities or opportunities can't get a few pairs of sneakers from their parents  on welfare\, i say fuck off.  \n\n\n\n   2 hours ago\, ProfD said:\n\n\n\n But\, when AI puts a wh ole bunch of Black folks outta work\, we'll have no choice.\n\n\n\n  \n\n \n\n  \n\n\n\n we? well humanity en large is going through a labor moveme nt reality with large language models and other similar computer programs. I don't know what will happen. I see many options\, the choices various p eople need to make haven't been made to see a clear path yet. \n\n\n\n   2 hours ago\, ProfD said:\n\n\n\n The Black 1% definitely is not exe mpt from investing in the community. \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n Right\, well the y are acting exempt in majority and I repeat I don't blame them. Black wea lth in modernity comes from struggle and rarely do black people have the f ortune to get it through crimes or illegalities\, and even when we do\, it is absent the ease of whites. So black people tend to be frightened of po verty. For too many blacks poverty is a sign of self\, which is hilarious historically. we didn't enslave ourselves into boats. And 90% of the black folk in the boats died over the ocean\, they never made any shores so\, . ..\n\n\n\n   2 hours ago\, ProfD said:\n\n\n\n It is a fact that Black people can make a lot of money. No assumptions. \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n  \n \n\n\n that is historical fact\, sadly it is also a generalization\, whom among blacks is where the details reside and the details is where black pe ople tend to make assumptions on other black people based on hope or encou ragement\, not truth.\n\n\n\n   2 hours ago\, ProfD said:\n\n\n\n I do n't have to convince the Black people where I live that they too can be su ccessful. \n\n\n\n me neither\, common ground\, finally \n\n DTSTART;VALUE=DATE:20250124 RRULE:FREQ=YEARLY;INTERVAL=1 END:VEVENT END:VCALENDAR