BEGIN:VCALENDAR VERSION:2.0 PRODID:-//InvisionCommunity Events 4.7.23//EN METHOD:PUBLISH CALSCALE:GREGORIAN REFRESH-INTERVAL:PT15M X-PUBLISHED-TTL:PT15M X-WR-CALNAME:RMCommunityCalendar NAME:RMCommunityCalendar BEGIN:VTIMEZONE TZID:Europe/London TZURL:http://tzurl.org/zoneinfo/Europe/London X-LIC-LOCATION:Europe/London BEGIN:DAYLIGHT TZOFFSETFROM:+0000 TZOFFSETTO:+0100 TZNAME:BST DTSTART:20250330T020000Z RRULE:FREQ=YEARLY;BYMONTH=3;BYDAY=-1SU END:DAYLIGHT BEGIN:STANDARD TZOFFSETFROM:+0100 TZOFFSETTO:+0000 TZNAME:GMT DTSTART:20251026T020000Z RRULE:FREQ=YEARLY;BYMONTH=10;BYDAY=-1SU END:STANDARD END:VTIMEZONE BEGIN:VEVENT SUMMARY:Miss Evers Boys from Movies That Move We -01/2/2025 DTSTAMP:20250128T060817Z SEQUENCE:0 UID:164-7-c3fe8195a3dde498d013e477e2142422@aalbc.com ORGANIZER;CN="richardmurray":troy@aalbc.com DESCRIPTION:\n Miss Evers Boys from Movies That Move We -01/2/2025\n\n\n \n my thoughts and trasncript + video\n\n https://aalbc.com/tc/profile/647 7-richardmurray/?status=2835&\;type=status\n\n\n\n \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n my thoughts\n\n 1932 to 1972 the Tuskegee experiment went on.\ n\n I learned of Tuskegee in the home and community centers at elementary age and in high school in the educational system.\n\n ...\n\n I remember a scene in the film Giant 1956 when the character played by rock Hudson say s to the character played by Elizabeth taylor that the white doctor of the family is not for public use or use for other people\, other people in th is case were Mexican immigrants in Texas. That scene encapsulates the over all problem. The healthcare industry in the usa has always been a business that is used by whites to display biases toward the non white. The movie Alice 2022 shows this in multiple ways. And the problem with healthcare as an industry is it is historically expensive. Healthcare is not cheap. Con sider that car company workers/steel company workers/government workers\, the cost of their healthcare overtime is the biggest bill. \n\n in amendm ent or commented\n\n Healthcare has always been historically for the have' s not all\, and you see that throughout humanity even today\, even in coun tries in western europe deemed universal in care. I can't wait for your fi rst show in black history month:) \n\n https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJ rcIlzfQhc\n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n TRANSCRIPT\n0:13\n[Music]\n0:25\n [Music]\n0:30\nhey everyone welcome back to another\n0:32\nedition of movi es that move we today we\n0:37\nwill be talking about Miss ever's boys\n0: 41\num now I hope you not not like me if you\n0:43\nhadn't heard about thi s film before and\n0:45\nthought it was about medar Evers and his\n0:48\nm om and them it's not it's not this is\n0:52\num it's a fictionalized telli ng of the\n0:58\nTuskegee uh project\n1:00\nand if you don't know what tha t is let\n1:03\nme tell you a little bit about it um\n1:05\nTuskegee Alaba ma there was\n1:08\na pretty decent population of black men\n1:12\nwho had \n1:14\nsyphilis and um you know the government\n1:17\nsaw it and said hey perfect opportunity\n1:20\nfor us to explore how this the progress\n1:25\ nof this\n1:27\ndisease and so they\n1:30\nsetup shop in\n1:32\nTuskegee t old these men hey we're going\n1:35\nto treat you for the condition they\n 1:38\ndidn't tell them that they were research\n1:40\nsubjects they didn't tell them they\n1:42\nweren't getting\n1:43\ntreatment and these men did not give\n1:47\nconsent to basically be used as guinea\n1:51\npigs this pr oject ran from was it\n1:57\n1932 to\n2:00\n19 no 1932 to\n2:05\n1972 okay so they were allowing men with\n2:08\nsyphilis black men with syphilis to just\n2:13\nride the disease out um and it's not a\n2:16\ncomfortable dis ease you you can get it\n2:19\nit can go\n2:21\ndormant it can come back u p there's like\n2:24\nfive stages to the condition you'll end\n2:27\nup wi th skin lesions there are some\n2:29\npeople who who survived it the bigge st\n2:32\nproblem here beyond the fact that they\n2:35\nwere experimenting on black bodies was\n2:38\nthat when it was found out that\n2:41\npenicil lin was The Cure none of these\n2:44\nmen were given the option never told \n2:47\nthat some of them would die if they like\n2:49\ntook it well no in reality no yeah but\n2:53\nI'm just saying in the movie like that's\n2:55 \nwhat they were they were telling them\n2:56\nthat if if you take it you you could die\n3:00\nwhich wasn't true but talking about the\n3:04\nmovie this is it's not based on a\n3:07\nspecific story but it is inspired by a\ n3:12\nnurse who did work with some some\n3:15\npatients during that time so we have in\n3:19\nthe role of nurse Evers um Alfrey\n3:25\nWoodard Cale b humph is her love interest\n3:29\nwho is is played by Lawrence Fishburn\ n3:31\nand I believe he's one of the producers\n3:33\nof the film um Dr Do uglas is played by\n3:37\nCraig Sheffer and he is the white Doctor\n3:40\n Who is leading the um experiment um we\n3:46\nhave Dr Sam brus who's playe d by uh Joe\n3:50\nMorton AKA Papa Pope those of you who\n3:53\nknow no um he is the black doctor that\n3:58\nis leading it because of you have\n4:0 0\nsomething like this going on you got to\n4:01\nget black people to talk to black people\n4:04\num Willie Johnson is played by Oba Baba\n4:09\ntun d hodman Bryan is played by Van\n4:13\ncouter Ben Washington is played by Tom\n4:16\ngosam Jr so\n4:20\nCaleb uh Willie hodman and Ben they're\n4:25 \nreferred to as Miss ever's boys and all\n4:29\nof them them were\n4:31\n participants in the study in this film\n4:36\num and then the late great a ie Davis\n4:39\nplayed um Alfrey woodard's father Mr\n4:43\nEvans so this is going back like I said\n4:48\n1930s\n4:50\nTuskegee black people were s till working\n4:52\nin the fields there were still\n4:54\nsharecroppers um and it was a big deal\n4:57\nthat\n4:58\nshe uh Unice Evers was a nurse y ou know\n5:03\nshe's working in the hospital she's\n5:05\nworking with doc tors she wasn't a\n5:07\nservant or anything like that she\n5:10\nrecogniz ed it her father recognized it\n5:12\nit was the type of career that could \n5:14\nhave taken her\n5:15\nanywhere um when this came up she was\n5:19\ nthe head nurse\n5:22\nunder Dr broadis so Joe Morton she was\n5:27\nworki ng with him and he said hey\n5:30\nI'm taking you with me we're going to t o\n5:33\nTuskegee there's something happening\n5:35\ndown there that they want us to be a\n5:37\npart of that happened to be the area\n5:40\nwhere s he grew up so Caleb she was\n5:43\nalready familiar with because he used t o\n5:46\npull her Pigtails in\n5:48\nclass so there was some relationship\ n5:52\nthere and her relation built with the\n5:55\nother three men to the point that you\n5:57\nknow they were performers in the\n5:59\ncommunity C omm they name their band\n6:01\nafter her um the whole thing gets\n6:05\ns ticky because at a certain point she\n6:09\nrealizes that wait a\n6:11\nmi nute we're we're not treating them\n6:14\nwe're just doing research and sh e was\n6:17\nexcited at first because the\n6:20\ngovernment's paying for i t they're\n6:21\ngiving these guys they're they're going\n6:23\nto help th e black people and there were\n6:25\na handful of people who were wey but\ n6:27\nwhen they heard what I get a free meal I\n6:31\ncan get free rides and all this other\n6:34\nyou know the government is catering to\n6:35\nme they were like all right sign me up\n6:38\nso I'll let you take it from h ere what\n6:40\nwhat were your thoughts about well first\n6:43\nof all I'm going to ask the question I\n6:45\nusually ask is this something you\n6:4 7\nlearned about in school no not at all\n6:50\nand what was crazy was whe n I when\n6:53\nI because I was actually the one that\n6:55\nchose the\n6: 57\nmovie when I saw it\n7:00\nI never even really heard about it but\n7:0 4\nwhen I saw it I was like oh you know\n7:05\nwhat based off the descript ion I was\n7:07\nlike this might be a good watch it seems\n7:09\nlike\n7:1 0\nsomething that um might be educational\n7:13\nbecause this is something again we\n7:15\nweren't taught about in school so to\n7:18\nwatch it and then like even down to the\n7:22\nway things were kind of broken down to\n 7:25\nthese men when they're coming into their\n7:27\ncommunity and tellin g them what they're\n7:29\ngoing to do and how the government is\n7:31\nfu nding this and everything like that it\n7:34\nwas\n7:35\nso it was kind of surreal for me to\n7:38\nwatch cuz it's just like they really\n7:40\nkind of felt like they had to not only\n7:43\nbring Miss Evers and the doctor in the\n7:46\nblack doctor in\n7:48\nto kind of facilitate or help facilit ate\n7:52\nthese conversations with these men but\n7:55\nit was almost\n7: 56\nlike oh we have to kind of dumb it down\n7:59\nfor them too because wh ereas the white\n8:02\ndoctor that came in was kind of like hey\n8:05\nyou know I want to get technical with\n8:07\nthese guys and let them know the exact\n8:09\ndiagnosis Miss Evers and the other\n8:11\ndoctor involved we re like no we should\n8:15\nprobably kind of tell them something\n8:18\ndi fferent I don't think they were\n8:21\ndumbing it down I\n8:24\nthink okay let me not say that yes they\n8:26\nwere but by saying blood like oh well \n8:29\nit's something in your blood like I'm\n8:32\nand she explained tha t what she said to\n8:34\nto the doctor\n8:36\nwas you have to talk to the m in their in\n8:41\ntheir language if you tell them that\n8:45\nthey have a virus they're going to panic\n8:48\nand we won't have anyone to complet e the\n8:50\nstudy with so they understand illness is\n8:54\nsomething in the blood so that's what\n8:57\nwe're going to tell them that there's\n9:0 0\nsomething in the blood we're gonna give\n9:02\nthem some treatments to to help heal\n9:06\nthem and they'll be more willing to go\n9:09\nalong wi th it if we phrase it in terms\n9:11\nthat they comprehend okay okay that' s\n9:15\nlike a lawyer trying to speak to you in\n9:18\nlegal vernacular a nd you're going my\n9:19\nrights or what and there was a scene in\n9:21\nt he part or there was a scene in the\n9:22\nmovie\n9:23\nwhere the the whit e doctor is like\n9:26\ntelling them what he's about to do and\n9:28\nwhat testing they're about to kind of go\n9:31\nthrough and everything and why they're\n9:32\nbeing tested for this and they're just\n9:34\nall sitting there looking at him like\n9:37\nyou going to do what and Miss Evers kind\ n9:40\nof had to step in but I just felt like\n9:42\nthroughout the whole\ n9:43\nfilm there were so many things that and\n9:47\nwhat was crazy was t here was kind of\n9:48\nlike that little bit of a contrast\n9:49\nbecause here it is you know they're kind\n9:51\nof talking like that to the rest o f them\n9:53\nthey're not giving them full information\n9:56\nas to what's going on and Lawrence fish\n9:59\nBurn's character um Caleb Caleb\n10:04\ nhe he actually was kind of already\n10:07\neducating himself you know he let Miss\n10:09\nEvers know look like you don't think I\n10:12\ncan read I 'm going to the library and\n10:14\nI'm looking this stuff up myself yeah\ n10:17\nand he asked for a book cuz he was like\n10:19\nI want to know mor e about this exactly\n10:22\nso he kind of even though he was also\n10:24\ nnot giv a lot of\n10:26\ninformation Miss Evers did kind of offer\n10:28\ nup a little little bit of information to\n10:30\nhim in the beginning\n10 :31\nbut he kind of already knew in the back\n10:34\nof his mind certain t hings and something\n10:36\nwasn't right yeah so he was kind of\n10:38\nal ready hip to what was going on but\n10:42\nunfortunately these other guys that were\n10:44\ninvolved in this process they just\n10:46\ndidn't know a nd they kind of like leaned\n10:49\non Miss Evers a little bit to kind of\ n10:51\ntake them through this process yeah um\n10:55\nand it's unfortunat e because if they\n10:58\nwere a little bit more\n11:00\nhonest and even a little bit more\n11:03\ninstead of using them as guinea pigs\n11:05\nactu ally got them the help that they\n11:08\nneeded they would have been fine you\n11:11\nknow they would have lived normal lives\n11:12\nyou know um oh my gosh I keep drawing a\n11:16\nblank with his name Caleb when he went\n 11:18\nto the military he said look I got that\n11:21\npenicillin shot bec ause one this was my\n11:24\nonly way to get into the military\n11:27\npro perly but two like I'm not messing\n11:29\naround my health like I'm doing whatever\n11:31\nI have to do and he was kind of trying\n11:34\nto encour age the other men to do the\n11:36\nsame\n11:37\nbut the the the role of t he medical team\n11:42\nin this\n11:44\nsituation was to just monitor the\ n11:47\nprogress of the disease and keep them\n11:51\nfrom getting treatme nt elsewhere yeah\n11:54\nand there's a scene in the film where\n11:56\non e of the guys um he's like I can't\n11:59\ntake it anymore Caleb takes him to a\n12:03\nhospital to get the penicillin and the\n12:05\nnurse turns a round looks at the\n12:07\nclipboard and says no you can't have it\n12:10\ nand they were like why can't he get it\n12:14\nand she said because you'r e on the list\n12:16\nI can't give it to you cuz he was a part\n12:18\nof this experiment so all of the\n12:20\nhospitals in the area had the names of\n12:23\nall of the the the men who were being\n12:27\nresearched and th ey refused them care\n12:31\nwhen they came to it and in this\n12:33\nsitu ation it\n12:35\nwas uh Willie Willie was the dancer in\n12:39\nthe group you know he was hopping up and\n12:41\ndown you know dancing like they do at\n12:43\nthe Cotton Club and he had dreams of\n12:44\ngetting there and it started to affect\n12:47\nhis Mobility so he was like I can't I\n12:49\ ncan't live like this I need to to have\n12:53\nit fixed Caleb didn't tell him exactly\n12:57\nwhat was going on even though though he\n13:00\nhad a n\n13:01\nankling and he did try to talk to Unice\n13:05\nabout it and say okay what aren't you\n13:07\ntelling me and she was like I can't I\n13:10 \ncan't and I think part of the reason why\n13:13\nshe said she can't a um she was told\n13:17\nthat she can't she shouldn't and then\n13:19\nthe ot her part was she was ashamed\n13:21\nbecause once she\n13:24\nrealized wha t this really was MH she was\n13:30\nlike I I can't tell anybody that I'm\ n13:33\nknowingly a part of this and she was\n13:38\noffered an opportunit y she was about to\n13:41\ntake the opportunity to go back up north\n13:45 \nfor for\n13:47\nwork and she changed her mind because\n13:50\nshe was li ke these guys need me I can't\n13:54\nleave them in other words I help put \n13:56\nthem in this predicament I can't aband\n13:59\nshe went through a tremendous like\n14:01\ninternal struggle to the point where it\n14:04\ne ven affected the relationship she had\n14:05\nwith Caleb because it was li ke here it\n14:08\nis they were in love they kind of wanted\n14:10\nto go away together and all that but she\n14:13\nhad the guilt of kind of how th is whole\n14:16\nprocess started and then the guilt of\n14:18\nlike kind o f what happened after that\n14:21\nhow these men were affected and then\n1 4:24\nhere it is you know Caleb comes back\n14:25\nfrom the war and everyt hing and he's\n14:27\nlike look like you know it the deed has\n14:30\nbeen done this is already happening like\n14:32\nwe need to just go start our lives and\n14:34\nshe's like I can't leave these guys\n14:37\nbehind like I just can't do it and it it\n14:40\nit unfortunately affected their perso nal\n14:44\nlives because it's kind of\n14:46\nlike had this experiment no t even\n14:49\nhappened none of them would be in this\n14:51\npredicament at all so right and so um\n14:57\nback to reality\n14:59\num a lot of thin gs came out of this time\n15:05\nperiod rules were put in place um once\n1 5:09\nthis was re was revealed and you know\n15:13\nthe public expressed o utrage over it new\n15:16\npolicies were put into place to make\n15:19\nsu re that you know people were aware of\n15:24\nwhen they were a part of med ical\n15:26\nresearch so now you are in invited to\n15:30\nclinical studie s you don't just become a\n15:33\nguinea pig because someone says you know \n15:35\nwhat I want to see how long this person\n15:37\nsurvives if they have XYZ disease you\n15:42\nhave to be offered you have to be\n15:44\ncom pensated you have to be treated like\n15:47\na human being and not a lab r at that's\n15:50\nrequired by law um there are\n15:55\ninstitutional revie w boards so one set\n15:58\nof do s can't come up with this\n16:00\nexperi ment run it privately and then do\n16:04\nwhat they want with the informat ion if\n16:05\nyou're going to have a clinical trial\n16:08\nthen there's a review board to make sure\n16:10\nthat you are following all processes a nd\n16:13\nprotocols that are laid out to make sure\n16:15\nthat the patie nt is cared for um and you\n16:20\nknow this this movie kind of speaks to\ n16:23\nand you being a Med medical professional\n16:25\nyou're aware of s ome of this um it kind\n16:29\nof speaks to what impacts uh mortality\n16: 33\nrate amongst\n16:35\nAfrican-Americans and while it has\n16:39\nimprov ed there's still room for\n16:43\nimprovement plenty of room for\n16:45\ni mprovement because the mortality rate\n16:48\nbirth rate between black wom en and white\n16:51\nwomen there's still a gap there same\n16:54\nthing fo r breast\n16:57\ncancer there's still a gap there and\n17:00\neven and I c an speak from my own\n17:02\nexperience when trying to get um\n17:06\nassi stance with health\n17:08\nissues you probably going to have to go\n17:10\ nthrough as a a black woman you're\n17:12\nprobably going to have to go th rough a\n17:14\nfew doctors before you can get yeah what\n17:18\nyou need I had a talk with my doctor the\n17:20\nother day and she was like oh I\n1 7:22\nrecommend this doctor and I was like\n17:25\nuhuh went to them and I didn't even get\n17:28\ninto it with her about why how racist\n17:32\nthi s doctor was towards me I just said\n17:36\nno and I think that's where I related to\n17:40\nCaleb because he was like I'm advocating\n17:44\nfor my self for myself I'm here but I\n17:47\nhave a lot of questions that I need and\n17:49\nI love you know I love that about his\n17:50\ncharacter becau se I feel like and I try\n17:52\nto kind of impress this upon the\n17:54\n patients I work with in general because\n17:57\nas a human being like you have to be you\n18:01\nhave to be researching you have to be\n18:04\nthoug htful and thorough with your own\n18:06\nhealth care like you have to be\n 18:08\nquestioning these doctors you know and\n18:10\nasking them about th is stuff because\n18:13\nthey don't know it all they don't know\n18:15\nat all there are some doctors that go by\n18:17\nthe book or they are just t rying to sell\n18:20\nthe these you know medications to to get\n18:25\nper ks and things like that it's kind of\n18:27\nlike you have to be your own Advocate\n18:30\nyou have to research yourself because\n18:32\nhere it is in this scenario it's like if\n18:35\nhe didn't do that research on his ow n\n18:37\nand like kind of take that extra step\n18:40\nand try to figure things out on his own\n18:42\nhe would have been just like some of\n18:43\ nthose men that that ended up dead\n18:46\nbecause it's like you know you got to\n18:48\nkind of ask more questions and care more\n18:50\nabout your health and not just listen to\n18:53\nwhat a health care provider or what ever\n18:55\nis telling you all the time yeah there\n18:58\nwas one guy an d I I didn't write his\n19:00\nname down in the notes did all the\n19:02\n research looked him up his name was\n19:06\nCharlie I can't remember his l ast name\n19:09\nnow I'll try and put up a picture of him\n19:12\nbut he w as one of the um last survivors\n19:16\nof the Tuskegee\n19:19\nexperiment and the reason why I\n19:22\nremembered him is because they they did\n19: 24\na a report about him and he\n19:29\nwore a hat at all times because ag ain\n19:32\nwhen you get syphus you if it's not\n19:34\ntreated or treated quickly you start to\n19:37\nget lesions and they they kind of\n19:38\nre presented that in the um in the movie\n19:42\nwhere these guys had like ma rks on their\n19:45\nface he had marks on his\n19:50\nscalp and so he used to wear a hat to\n19:53\nhide\n19:54\nit but he was and which president w as it\n19:58\nI don't remember if it was no no no no\n20:01\nno no cuz thi s was in like the '90s\n20:03\nshortly before he passed but he was\n20:07\ ngiven some kind of medal okay by the\n20:10\npresident\n20:11\nfor um his his involvement and survival\n20:16\nbecause black people are rewarded fo r\n20:18\nsurviving um he was given a reward for\n20:22\nthat but that man suffered through all\n20:26\nof that and you know I think he died in\n20: 30\nI want to say he passed away in\n20:33\n2009 darn I wish I had notes o n it but\n20:35\nI'll try and put that up at the\n20:37\nend all in all as far as historical\n20:42\ncontent I feel like this was pretty\n20:45\nacc urate even though it's a\n20:46\nfictionalized movie I think it was\n20:49 \npretty accurate if you're not aware of\n20:52\nthe Tuskegee experiment I definitely say\n20:56\nwatch it go down the rabbit hole get\n20:59\nonlin e do the research um and once again\n21:04\nsit your kids down to watch it you know\n21:08\nI think the news just broke today that\n21:10\napparentl y at the federal level Black\n21:12\nHistory Month is being cancelled\n21: 15\nso look don't let it be canceled in your\n21:18\nhouse celebrate educa te make sure you\n21:22\nknow about stuff like this because as we\n21:24\n can see history is starting to repeat\n21:26\nitself in a very backwards w ay so that\n21:30\nbeing said hope you enjoyed this review\n21:33\ndon't f orget to like share follow\n21:35\nsubscribe to our YouTube page also our\ n21:39\nFacebook page even though I'm trying to\n21:41\nmove us off of met a completely because\n21:45\nreasons um our group on Facebook is\n21:48\nc alled movies that move we you can also\n21:51\nfind me on the spill app do wnload it\n21:56\nit's aiv it's nice and quiet over 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don't care who don't like\n23:03\nwe're celebrating\n23:05\nourselves anyway thank you so much for\n23:07\njoining us and until next week we'll see\n23:10\nyou later bye bye\n\n\n\n\n\n  \n\n DTSTART;VALUE=DATE:20250128 RRULE:FREQ=YEARLY;INTERVAL=1 END:VEVENT END:VCALENDAR