BEGIN:VCALENDAR VERSION:2.0 PRODID:-//InvisionCommunity Events 4.7.23//EN METHOD:PUBLISH CALSCALE:GREGORIAN REFRESH-INTERVAL:PT15M X-PUBLISHED-TTL:PT15M X-WR-CALNAME:RMCommunityCalendar NAME:RMCommunityCalendar BEGIN:VTIMEZONE TZID:Europe/London TZURL:http://tzurl.org/zoneinfo/Europe/London X-LIC-LOCATION:Europe/London BEGIN:DAYLIGHT TZOFFSETFROM:+0000 TZOFFSETTO:+0100 TZNAME:BST DTSTART:20250330T020000Z RRULE:FREQ=YEARLY;BYMONTH=3;BYDAY=-1SU END:DAYLIGHT BEGIN:STANDARD TZOFFSETFROM:+0100 TZOFFSETTO:+0000 TZNAME:GMT DTSTART:20251026T020000Z RRULE:FREQ=YEARLY;BYMONTH=10;BYDAY=-1SU END:STANDARD END:VTIMEZONE BEGIN:VEVENT SUMMARY:Segregations Heritage or Separation 101 - 03/22/2025 DTSTAMP:20250322T194719Z SEQUENCE:0 UID:221-7-c3fe8195a3dde498d013e477e2142422@aalbc.com ORGANIZER;CN="richardmurray":troy@aalbc.com DESCRIPTION:\n Segregations Heritage or Separation 101\n\n\n\n A multilo g of the issue of segregation or separation for the descended of enslaved in the  united states of america \n\n\n\n please share your thoughts\n\n \n\n https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/11546-segregation/#findComment-72304\n\n\n \n unexact map of cities in the usa with over fifty percent black populace \n\n\n\n \n\n\n\n unexact map of counties in the usa with over fifty perce nt black populace\n\n\n\n \n\n\n\n IN AMENDMENT\, if you don't want to cli ck the comment above...\n\n\n\n \n Quote\n \n\n \n \n hahahah thank yo u @ProfD @Pioneer1 @Troy namaste:) \n \n\n \n  \n \n\n \n @u mbrarchist that is an excellent question for the forum? the ten must have 's mandatories... lot of books to sift through\, that is a challenge.  On e thing is for certain\, some big names have to be off that list in all ea rnest.  The literary heritage of the black populace in the usa is quite g rand\, to just have ten books.. that is a challenge. \n \n\n \n \n   9 hours ago\, umbrarchist said:\n \n\n \n \n  \n \n\ n \n What would be 10 books that the Black literati could agree on? \n \n \n \n\n \n  \n \n\n \n @Pioneer1 you just dictated wh at the exoduster movement was all about. but why did they fail? yes\, whit es burned/isolated/harmed/poisoned many\, potentially all\,  of their tow ns. But what was the problem with other blacks? \n \n\n \n well... Th e black colleges\, Booker t washington\,  mostly financed by white church es\, knew the distant locations for the exodusters\, who had to go west to start fresh\, was too far for the connection to white churches\, especial ly in congregation. \n \n\n \n The talented tenth\, web dubois\,  we re anti seperatists\, they wanted a complete positive integration\n \n\n \n Garveyites were supportive\, many exodusters were garveyites\, the i dea of a black city in a state in the usa\, isn't the exact garveyite goal \, but it has enough black empowerments and para isolationism that it gell ed. \n \n\n \n Frederick Douglass\, the most vocal black leader at th e time\,  was vehemently  against the exodusters. It isn't that he hated black empowerment but truly believed in the composite nation future of th e usa\, a myriad of peoples \, like highly multicolored marble. The people s are not the same but are so tightly bound to each other they are one\, a nd the separatism of the exodusters was in opposition to that.\n \n\n \n Like what you say\, the exoduster movement wasn't anti usa\, or even at its heart anti white\, but it was black empowerment/safety/flexibility wi thin the usa aside the enemy white populace in the usa. \n \n\n \n So the exoduster movement has been dead for over one hundred years and the m odern black populace \, circa 2025 \, unlike in the late 1800s\, is highly urbanized so... what you call for is functional\, but that is a task.\n \n\n \n I argue for what it is worth focusing on black towns or countie s in the usa with a populace 75% and above which is black and growing one/ a set/or long term them all them from the black urban populaces or black p opulaces that live in white cities or counties.\n \n\n \n white man sa ys\, three cities over 100\,000 people have a populace that is over sevent y five percent black. \n \n\n \n Detroit\, wayne county[which is majo rity white] \, michigan state which is majority  white\n \n\n \n Jack son \, hinds county[ which is majority black]\, mississippi state which is majority white\n \n\n \n South Fulton\, fulcton county [ which is hal f black]\, georgia state which is majority white\n \n\n \n Now how man y counties are majority black\, over fifty percent black in the usa\, by w hite man's account\n \n\n \n Mississippi 25 - and yes white man list h inds as one\n \n\n \n Georgia 22\n \n\n \n Alabama has 11\n \n\n \n South Carolina 9 \n \n\n \n Virginia 9\n \n\n \n North Caro lina 8\n \n\n \n Louisiana 7\n \n\n \n arkansas 6\n \n\n \n US virgin islands 3 - 100% of the counties of the us virgin islands\, the on ly state/territory with 100% black counties\n \n\n \n Tennessee 2\n \ n\n \n Puerto rico 1\n \n\n \n maryland 3\n \n\n \n florida 1\n \n\n \n So based on citiies over 100\,000 in the usa plus comparing s tates with the most black counties. Start in Jackson Mississippi and inclu de all the other black counties. or try the virgin islands\n \n\n \n P opulation matters\, trust me\, black people try to sell strategy\, I don't care how much money or how attune you are\, if you don't have the numbers \, sooner or later the majority will hurt you. So go Pioneer! We all belie ve in you. \n \n\n \n county referral\n\n https://en.wikipedia.org/ wiki/List_of_majority-Black_counties_in_the_United_States\n\n cities ref errall\n\n https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._cities_with_large_ Black_populations\n \n\n \n  \n \n\n \n but getting the majority of DOSers \, millions of people\, in a wholesale gesture....that is a task .\n \n\n \n \n   7 hours ago\, Pioneer1 said:\n \n\n \n \n I think for AfroAmericans a certain amount of SEPARATION from the W hite community and other non-FBA communities for that matter is not only h ealthy for us but will lead to much greater prosperity for OUR community i n the future.\n \n \n \n\n \n  \n \n\n \n @Troy It is inter esting\, the black neighborhoods in nyc/la or other white cities were brok en up by more positive integration but I argue\, said action exposed what separates a black neighborhood in a white city from a black populace in a black city. A Black Neighborhood in a white city\, like harlem\, has a hug e problem\, that it can't evade. It isn't the majority. when I look at the history of harlem\, it is clear to me that in an elected system you need the votes\, you do. The white orthodox jewish neighborhoods problem in new york city with the schools is that \, once one of their own started that court case\, the money + influence is simply not enough. And their schools are getting penalized. Their money is making it not as hard as if harlem when black had such terrible grades. And the proof is\, Guiliani + Bloombe rg pushed charter schools in harlem\, with a lot of black help\, even thou gh the average grading of black children in harlem was average to better. It wasn't negative like the white orthodox jewish students who by state ru n test assessments had over 90% failure. Troy can you imagine what black e lected officials would say if any black populace in nyc had over 90% failu re on state run test? Like David Dinkins tenure with crime\, Black student s in NYC have been falsely criminalized as failing dangerously\, when the truth is\, they kept up with the average. The problem is\, it wasn't 100% or 0% and too many black people keep wanting that in all things for black folk. But\, post vent\, the white jewish community had to accept school cl osings and a state monitor\, even though they didn't want to. And that is because you need the votes. \n \n\n \n  \n \n\n \n Note\, Detroi t in the 1950s/1960s/1970s\, with the Black Flight\,  was majority white\ , a white city. Detroit became majority Black\, a Black city\,  in the 19 80s after the collapse of the usa auto industry and the collapse of detroi t as the auto capitol.  The Black sin is\, while whites were leaving det roit en masse\,Motown\, the weatlhiest black owned firm\,  from Detroit\, chose to leave Detroit while it was still majority white\, for a white ci ty. \n \n\n \n \n\n Jewish schools in nyc\n\n https://aalbc.com/t c/profile/6477-richardmurray/?status=2064&\;type=status\n \n\n \n D etroit demographics \n \n\n \n https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detroit# Demographics\n \n\n \n \n   5 hours ago\, Troy said:\n \n\n \n \n however\, in desperation to integrate we effectively destroy ed many black communities as the professionals and working middle class ab andoned “separate” black neighborhoods in favor of white ones. This ha s been bad too.\n \n \n \n \n\n\n\n  \n\n DTSTART;VALUE=DATE:20250322 RRULE:FREQ=YEARLY;INTERVAL=1 END:VEVENT END:VCALENDAR