BEGIN:VCALENDAR VERSION:2.0 PRODID:-//InvisionCommunity Events 5.0.18//EN METHOD:PUBLISH CALSCALE:GREGORIAN REFRESH-INTERVAL:PT15M X-PUBLISHED-TTL:PT15M X-WR-CALNAME:RMCommunityCalendar NAME:RMCommunityCalendar BEGIN:VTIMEZONE TZID:Europe/London TZURL:https://tzurl.org/zoneinfo/Europe/London X-LIC-LOCATION:Europe/London BEGIN:DAYLIGHT TZOFFSETFROM:+0000 TZOFFSETTO:+0100 TZNAME:BST DTSTART:20250330T020000Z RRULE:FREQ=YEARLY;BYMONTH=3;BYDAY=-1SU END:DAYLIGHT BEGIN:STANDARD TZOFFSETFROM:+0100 TZOFFSETTO:+0000 TZNAME:GMT DTSTART:20251026T020000Z RRULE:FREQ=YEARLY;BYMONTH=10;BYDAY=-1SU END:STANDARD END:VTIMEZONE BEGIN:VEVENT SUMMARY:Israel unilaterally struck Iran 06/12/2025 DTSTAMP:20250613T023205Z SEQUENCE:0 UID:330-7-c3fe8195a3dde498d013e477e2142422@aalbc.com ORGANIZER;CN="richardmurray":noreply@aalbc.com DESCRIPTION:\n  \n\n\n\n Israel has committed a war prompting action ag ainst Iran. Shooting all these missiles at Tehran is an act of war. So... who does what is the next question. If Iran does nothing\, they could impl ode from the inside. Iran has to act militarily. From the post below\, man y in the government in the USA are willing to let Israel and Iran have it out. Saudi Arabia + United Arab Emirates + Qatar + Iraq are between Israel versus Iran so all of them will have to act in one way or another. \n\n\ n\n Netanyahu has put a very dangerous card forward. I know he wants to pr eserve israel with him at the head of it. This can be a win if the USA/Sau di Arabia/Qatar/United Arab Emirates/Kuwait/Iraq support Israel. The probl em is\, many in the USA don't want to support Israel. And Saudi Arabia/Qa tar/United Arab Emirates/Kuwait/Iraq have populaces that are all in majori ty anti jewish. So I doubt any of them will risk the internal troubles of siding with Israel even against Iran knowing their domestic populace. A wa r will be brilliant for USA/Russia/China/European Union as they each will have a place for their various financial activities as well as a place to focus media away from domestic problems. Taiwan + Ukraine may be winners a s it may preoccupy china + russia to make deals with their heritage simila r neighbors.\n\n\n\n I am certain Scrumpft doesn't want to go to war\, but if he does or if he doesn't will be a key moment going forward for intern ational policy. If the USA isn't going to step in with Israel vs Iran then a bunch of little regional wars can break out and should get a similar re sponse. \n\n\n\n \n\n Forum Post\n\n https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/11674-isr ael-strikes-tehran/\n\n\n\n TWEETS\n\n American patriots are caught in a v ice: \n\n The Left puts illegals first ... The Right puts Israel first.\n \n On one side\, there are riots against the deportation of illegals.\n\n On the other side\, there's a push for yet another war in the Middle East\ , this time with Iran! \n\n The American patriot takes the brunt of it al l.\n\n \"Making America Great Again\" is becoming a distant memory ... eve n though only 6 months have passed in this new Trump Administration.\n\n W atch \n\n @DanielLMcAdams\n\n  and \n\n @ChrisRossini\n\n  below:\n\n https://x.com/RonPaul/status/1933234736379670886\n\n\n\n Netenyahu has spe nt his entire Political and Personal life trying destroy  the entire Midd le East. \n\n He doesn't care about Hostages\, he doesn't care about the young Israelis dying in Gaza\, he doesn't care about Palestinians. \n\n H e cares about Power.\n\n https://x.com/BowesChay/status/193329888229891294 8\n\n\n\n We dont actually need to side with either. Theres a whole ocean between us. The middle east is not our problem. \n\n They chose to move i n where they dont belong and are not wanted. It shouldn't be our job to ba bysit them and keep them safe.\n\n None of these issues would be a thing i f we just broke up with Israel once and for all\, including 9/11.\n\n Amer ica first and only.\n\n https://x.com/CassandraRules/status/19331338163752 02129\n\n\n\n Marco Rubio puts out a strong statement regarding Israel’s strike on Iran tonight. \n\n We will NOT be caught up in another Middle East forever war.\n\n These two factions have fought for hundreds of years . Neocons will say we should be involved\, but it’s NOT our fight.\n\n A MERICA FIRST!\n\n https://x.com/MikeCrispi/status/1933327417063715067\n\n\ n\n \n\n\n\n Don't join the military.\n\n If you're in there now\, resign. \n\n Israel will drag the US and its allies into a war with Iran\, and Rus sia will join Iran\, and China will join Russia.\n\n ...and World War III will begin.\n\n https://x.com/_RogueScholar_/status/1933320490002886738\n\ n\n\n Not our war!!  World War III is here!  Get ready!\n\n https://x.co m/petejonesintx/status/1933341444686659988\n\n\n\n \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n Con sider this\n\n\n\n https://www.instagram.com/reel/DIDmg6DNwwh/?utm_source= ig_web_copy_link\n\n\n\n \n \n \n  \n \n\n \n \n  \n \n\n \n  \n \n \n \n\n \n  \n \n\n \n \n \n\n \n \n View this post on Instagram\n \n \n\n \n  \n \n\n \n \n \n  \n \n\n \n  \n \n\n \n  \n \n \n\n \n \n  \n \n\n \n  \n \n \n\n \n \n   \n \n\n \n  \n \n\n \n  \n \n \n \n\n \n \n  \n \n\n \n  \n \n \n\n \n A post shared by L (@__yours trulybabe)\n \n \n\n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n MORE COMMENTS\n\n\n\n https://aalbc .com/tc/topic/11691-us-strikes-iran-nuclear-sites/#findComment-74598\n\n\n \n @ProfD\n\n\n\n Well schrumpft has placed the global order from FDR all on the backs of Iran really. Israel attacked Iran absent provocation\, and then the usa helped defend Israel from Iran 's attacks and now has attack ed iran absent provocation. \n\n\n\n ISrael + USA hope Iran will literall y accept being bullied and not fight back and acquiesce. If that happens t hen the FDR global order is dead and SChrumpft has successfully redefined the global order going forward while avoiding a huge war. \n\n\n\n All th e other countries are waiting for what Iran will do. War is not a game\, i t never was and never will be. And it never exists as I find most people l ike to speak of it. If Iran goes to war\, the FDR global order is dead and who knows where the alliances go. \n\n\n\n Iran can do something in the middle which will avoid war but also be very challenging for them\, though potentially one of the greatest things in modern humanity. I will not spe ak of it. But I ponder. \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/11 691-us-strikes-iran-nuclear-sites/#findComment-74653\n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n @P ioneer1 \n\n\n\n   On 6/22/2025 at 6:13 AM\, Pioneer1 said:\n\n\n\n W hat doesn't make sense to me is why would Iran enter a \"deal\" with Ameri ca when America is an unconditional supporter of Israel?\n\n There is no \ "neutrality\" in this.\n\n\n\n IRan has choices\, Iran can choose to go to war officially. Iran can choose to acquiesce to the USA. Either choice Sc hurmpt gets what he wants. \n\n\n\n If Iran goes to war\, Schrumpft get t o use iran as a call for more isolationism. If IRan acquiesces then Schrum pft gets to say he makes peace through strength.\n\n\n\n Comprehend\, Isra el does not want iran to go to war and Netanyahu i gambling that the gover nment of iran: ayatollah and the clergy+elected officials+financial barons will lead the country to aquiesce. If Iran decides to go to war\, Israel will have forced all of its neighbors who are muslim to keep a distance. T hey will not help or can not help iran because they are to beholden to the usa or don't have the means BUT their populaces are all anti zionist + an ti israel for honest reasons so they can't embrace israel if iran decides to go to war. No neutrality ever exist really in intergovernmental affairs . The USA carries the british heritage of saying things are neutral when t hey are not\n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n   On 6/22/2025 at 6:13 AM\, Pioneer1 sa id:\n\n\n\n America and Israel are allies....and America did what allies a re supposed to do....help eachother.\n\n\n\n this is not true \, the usa i s not an ally of israel nor is israel an ally of the usa\, china is not an ally or russia nor is russia an ally of china\, canada nor mexico are all ies of the usa nor is the usa an ally of canada or mexico\, nor is france an ally of england nor is england an ally of france. No two governments in human history have ever been allies. This term allies is a commercializat ion of the term \"convenient + inconvenient partnerships\"  \n\n\n\n Rat her than see the usa through the lens of allies\, look at the usa + israel through the lens of the leading governors. \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n What does NEtanyahu want? NEtanyahu wants a country of jews who feel they have an a ncestral right to a bit of land and are willing to kill any for that right to be embraced as (feared+ loved) neighbors by the muslim (governments+ p eoples) all around them who have a history of antagony with them. Iran's g overnment is the biggest threat not because iran has the richest muslim go vernment\, that is saudi arabia who is another c+i partner of the usa\, no t because iran has the most religiously zealous people\, that is kemet/egy pt who made itself another c+i partner of the usa through egypt's military who runs egypt\, not the government of egypt. It is because Iran has the most  religiously zealous government in the muslim world and because iran is a public enemy of the usa\, that adds on to what israel can apply to i ran\, whether true or not. \n\n\n\n Now how does israel's strike lead to what netanyahu wants? If Iran acquiesces\, it will force a change in iran' s tone or a change in their government posture in key ways. You can't say death to israel + death to the usa\, while cowtowing to them. And thus isr ael will have a neighbor who publicly opposes them off the table as it was . But it all depends on what iran does. If Iran holds true to its public o pposition to israel + usa\, then usa is safe but israel will be long term under worse conditions\, because even though most of the governments in th e muslim world about israel are satraps to the usa: saudi arabia/qatar/tur key/egypt/morocco/united arab emirates\, syria\, jordan\, the ones who are not: algeria/libya/pakistan. Remember one thing about egpyt. When they ha d the commonly called arab spring with all the mamluk descendent college s tudents talking about freedom or rights\, who won the election that led th e usa to back the egyptian military to take over the government. It was th e mulism brotherhood. the muslim brotherhood who are arguably far more ant i jewish or anti usa than iran or turkey or whomever\, won a public electi on that the west deems even/fair. So the people in that region are anti is rael + anti usa\, but the governments\, like black elected officials in th e usa\, are the ones who go against the majority in their populace\, make deals with the usa or israel with support from usa+ israel in quelling the ir own people. so\, as some jews have said\, what netanyahu has done\, has placed israel in potentially the worst situation.The saudi royal family\, yearly has to quell the religious fanatics. Look who runs syria now that the assad clan is gone. I argue that if Iran holds true\, it will be devas tating to the region because the common peoples in that region clearly wan t israel + the usa gone/out /dead. This is fact so netanyahu is gambling. We will see. IT is all in IRan's hands\, that is the reality. Iran will di ctate how this plays out\, which is a poor sign of diplomacy on the part o f israel or the usa. \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n What does Schrumpft want?  Schr umpft wants one of two things. 1) Proof that isolationism is warranted  w hich he gets if Iran holds true because he can argue that if iran is willi ng against the militaristic advantage of the usa + israel aside no aid or assistance coming from anyone to hold true to their positions \, that coun try will never be able to be civil with the usa and thus the usa needs to embrace what many whites in rural usa want\, which is a return to isolatio nism\, which will end the internatiolization era started by woodrow wilson of the college of new jersey that ended the isolationism of the usa befor e and after the spanish american war. 2) proof that the usa can make peace through strength aka bullying which he gets if iran acquiesces. And that is not a new type of peace through strength. The napoleonic era\, the roma n empire\, the civil code+ pax romana were all based on the same things. A nd considering the usa is two hundred and fifty years old\, this can argua bly with Schrumpft executive order culture be his crossing the rubicon\, w hich is a phrase used when an empire goes from elected officials to milita ry chiefs. I argue the best similarity is the shogun era in japan. were le gally\, Nippon was still a country led by the lineage of a royal family wh ile functionally it was run by the head general\, the shogun. The usa will still have elected officials but the presidency will take on an imperial role until a president does away with being elected in some form or fashio n. \n\n\n\n The problem is either path means an end to the franklin delea nor roosevelt world order led by the usa\, an intricate web of financial/g overnmental/militaristic operations. \n\n\n\n Iran propelled by Schrumpft s actions will 1) begin an embrace of one to one culture\,which schrumft w ants\, north american treaty oranizationn/united nations/ similar are fini shed or reduced extremely\, many organizations of the FDR era are finished \, because they are based on complex inter governmental relations. 2) begi n an era of highly covert operation where the image of the global interwov en  economy exists but the embrace of secret/private/covert actions are n ow advanced highly to evade the bully of the usa but also create or mainta in partnerships that are not publicly allowed. The cia/fbi/nsa/ similar wi ll be happy because it will be a grand return to the days with the usa bat tled the ussr and tons of people were murdered in the dark all throughout humanity to manipulate and control things while keeping public faces of pe ace. \n\n\n\n   On 6/22/2025 at 6:13 AM\, Pioneer1 said:\n\n\n\n I th ought Russia and China was suppose to be Iran's allies....lol.\n\n So wher e are they????\n\n\n\n just to repeat\, russia isn't even an ally to china nor is china even an ally to russia let alone both of them be ally's to i ran. \n\n\n\n Russia+ China are both nuclear powers who have to be respec ted on the battle field\, which is why the usa never once considers attack ing russia although ukraine keeps begging for it. The whole point of the n on proliferation treaty was to give usa/russia/china/united kingdom/france a status above all other countries. neither can truly fall because their nuclear arsenals can potentially be used to clear the board. But\, stoppin g their rivals from getting nuclear weapons was in all their favor: cuba/m exico/poland/sweden/taiwan/vietnam/india/japan/germany/algeria/libya/irela nd all don't have nuclear weapons and all have what I will label gripes\, with a nuclear power.  Now israel/India/pakistan all achieved nuclear wea pons but they never signed the non proliferation treaty. South Sudan is a new country but they didn't sign also\, which is interesting for the futur e... North Korea signed but did that to get technical help and then withdr ew and accepted the penalty which is why they get banned from so much. Now to iran\, under the shah Iran signed it \, but when the ayotollah came in after killing the shah\, supported by the majority in iran\, the governme nt should had gotten out of the NPT but they stayed so it took over forty years but iran seems to be leaving the NPT which will force more sanctions even though it will also free iran from any further legal scenarios. Russ ia + China will be happy cause it will force Iran to be partnered with the m as only official nuclear powers can make arrangements with non nuclear p owers \, ala the usa to israel. the usa will be unhappy but the usa will n ot be able to stop russia or china from doing business with iran. \n\n\n\ n The question is if Iran quits\, will that lead to many countries quittin g the NPT...and the reality is\, when the nuclear weapons came about at th e end of the second phase of the white european imperial war\, commonly ca lled\, world war two\, the situation in humanity is no different than now. Yes\, countries like the usa are bullies but the reality is\, a question holds true. Does any government know how to lose? specifically\, does any government know how to accept their army+navy+air force being completely w iped out with the enemy in their borders and not use their nuclear weapons ? yes\, any one can say of course\, but the risk is what if one can not. Y ou have to comprehend\, fission based irradiated air /water will travel al l over the earth\, make everyone sick and the more bombs the more irradiat ed. No one will escape. Yes\, the fiscal aristocracy may have a way out\, but are they truly prepared for the time it will take. I doubt it. Remmebe r it isn't just radiation levels it is\, genetic deformities. It may sound apocalyptic\, but nuclear weapons are powerful\, their damage is wide and a sky full of them falling down on the earth will not kill the earth but will kill most of her children and it will take a long time for her to pro duce more. \n\n\n\n ...\n\n\n\n   On 6/22/2025 at 3:45 PM\, Pioneer1  said:\n\n\n\n I think right now North Korea is probably one of the very fe w nations that would actually be down to \"ride\" if a phone call was made to them.\n\n\n\n no\, north korea wouldn't\, but north korea hopes iran g ets out f the non proliferation. \n\n\n\n @ProfD \n\n\n\n   On 6/22/20 25 at 3:39 PM\, ProfD said:\n\n\n\n where is Russia and China who are su pposed allies to Iran.\n\n\n\n as I told Pioneer I don't know where anyone gets this idea that any two governments in humanity or allies. i have no idea where that \, in my opinion true stupidity comes from. so I can't ans wer your question. But\, I can answer the following\, what are russia + ch ina doing? \n\n\n\n Russia + China are both waiting on Iran. In the same way the usa is hiding behind israel  \, russia + china will hide behind i ran\, this is the hundred year heritage of the third white european imperi al war commonly called the cold war\, where the usa+ ussr used others to b attle themselves. That heritage lives on strong\, sadfully\, and I say sad fully because lies never favor true peace. \n\n\n\n   On 6/22/2025 at 2 :37 AM\, richardmurray said:\n\n\n\n If Iran goes to war\, the FDR globa l order is dead and who knows where the alliances go. \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\ n   On 6/22/2025 at 3:39 PM\, ProfD said:\n\n\n\n The Iranians do not have enough weapons or men to wage war against Israel backed by the US.\n\ n\n\n I had to first quote myself properly because the way you quoted me s uggested I said\, Iran would be advantaged in a war against israel backed by the usa or that war was even wise. I didn't say anything of the sort. I f Iran goes to war\, the global order is dead or at least injured. What i said had nothing to do with militaristic feasibility but the global arrang ement of governments in humanity today. Iran has to makes it choice and it is theirs to make. I am not in the prediction business or the assumption business\, options others have I treat honestly. \n\n\n\n   On 6/22/202 5 at 3:39 PM\, ProfD said:\n\n\n\n The Iranian regime could do the terro rist equivalent of strapping on a bomb and blowing up their own country. T hat would not be fair to the 90 million Iranian citizens though.\n\n\n\n W ar isn't about evenness or what you call fairness. War is about destructio n/chaos\, what you are willing to give or take in violence. Your suggestio n I find insulting. The Iranian government will make its choice. \n\n\n\n and for the record\, for any one outside profd who reads the following\, what I was/am thinking is not in his answer. He went another way completel y.\n\n\n\n   On 6/22/2025 at 2:37 AM\, richardmurray said:\n\n\n\n Ira n can do something in the middle which will avoid war but also be very cha llenging for them\, though potentially one of the greatest things in moder n humanity. I will not speak of it. But I ponder. \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n @um brarchist\n\n\n\n   16 hours ago\, umbrarchist said:\n\n\n\n Russia is Crumbling internally in its failure to deal with Ukraine.\n\n\n\n China h as internal economic problems because of their insanely corrupt real estat e bubble. Supposedly Xi just fell from power so their internal politics ma y not be in order.\n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n China is not crumbling \, let me exp lain to you how the chinese government works. The chinese government which is technically a multiparty states\, yes china has minority parties\, lik e the reform party in the usa or the communist party in the usa.. The chin ese government has congresses\, each congress is where the communist party members vote on everything from who will lead to who will have this or th at position to laws to more. But each year between congresses\, each year\ , an annual session occurs where instead of everybody like in the congress \, it is the leaders and top folk\, think of this like the primaries in th e usa. So Xi has many questioning his leadership in china. Again\, the myt h in the usa is that china is a dictatorship\, that isn't true. The chines e government is primarly made of one party but the chinese have philosophi cal or age based camps. What do I mean? whereas in the usa\, you have warh awks and fiscal conservatives in the party of abraham lincoln\, the elepha nts\, and you have centrists and liberals in the pary of andrew jackson\, the donkeys. If you were to relate china's system to the usa's\, in china\ , no elephants or donkeys exist\, but the chinese communist party has wing s based on philosophy but also age and they compete whole in the congress or part in the sessions and sway to and from each other and that is what X I is dealing with. People vote in china\, the problem is the usa likes the idea of a system where political parties which are not part of the consti tution get to be deemed mandatory. The chinese communist party has a milit aristic wing\, has a financial wing\, has a cultural wing and many others. China is not financially where some in china want it to be even though it is an unchallenged second in the world and the real estate bubble is no d ifferent than the multiple that happened in the usa in recent memory. Chin a is not militaristically where some in china want it to be \, even though they are playing catchup because of obvious reasons. So Xi has those in c hina who feel he is not doing a good enough job. China is not culturally w here some in china want it to be\, but south korea/japan/taiwan have those who benefit from china alongside those who benefit from the usa. and all three of those countries want an autonomy that china gives the likes of ma cau while said three have the condition of hong kong. \n\n\n\n @aka Contr arian \n\n\n\n   15 hours ago\, aka Contrarian said:\n\n\n\n Trump pu blicly  announced that he was going to wait 2 weeks to see how things pla yed out between Iran and Israel\, then days after this declaration\, Amer ica launched a secret attack on Iran and destroyed its nuclear facilities.  \n\n\n\n There is \"no honor among thieves\". That's how Trump rolls. He has no scruples or diplomacy. He's a sneaky liar. Meanwhile\,  Israel is beside itself with joy and full of praise for Trump who yearns to be awar ded the Nobel Peace Prize like Obama\, who he envies.\n\n\n\n This is the guy running America. smh.\n\n\n\n Remember the USA populace earned his lea dership\, it is not accident or unwarranted. Was it not the white european descent populace in the usa who constantly voted for elected officials wh o made promises they never kept\, and constantly blamed or made actions ag ainst non white populaces? Was it not the black populace in the usa from t he end of the war between the states  who constantly had battles amongst it parts on what they wanted the black experience to be in the usa\, never doing what is necessary to force one way\, ending up supporting black ele cted officials who never had a pro black plan and only spoke of unwarrante d or dysfunctional dreams while lying about their presence as the desired legacy of black advocates murdered by whites plus agents of whites or the black populace en large who I argue has always disliked whites? Was it not the immigrant populaces of the usa post immigration act 1964 who as the s mallest minority populaces benefited off of the woes of indigenous or batt les of dos blacks while embracing all the media positions from whites on s aid historically abused peoples while now as larger populaces wanting the same security they had in the past? the people in the usa earned Schrumpft . The majority of the people in the usa are backstabbers to their own kin in action or words\, or liars about their kins condition\, who claim they want betterment while they support dysfunctional or inevitably destructive strategies plans or ideas. The people of the usa warrant Schrumpt\, earne d his tenures. The aspect that amaze me the most is the majority of the pe ople in the usa actually think they warrant better. They don't. \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/11691-us-strikes-iran-nuclear-sites /#findComment-74664\n\n\n\n @ProfD\n\n\n\n   6 hours ago\, ProfD said: \n\n\n\n IMO\, the global pecking order remains unchanged regardless the o utcome of this strike.\n\n\n\n the global order I refer to isn't the globa l peckin order\n\n\n\n @Pioneer1\n\n\n\n   7 hours ago\, Pioneer1 said :\n\n\n\n What do they expect Russia to actually do?\n\n\n\n I don't know \, iran has this issue in their corner\, israel + the usa have done their part but now it is up to iran.\n\n\n\n All I have read in terms of actions is iran attacked a base in qatar \, has blocked a sea route for oil\, is not stating it has gone to war with the usa\, and is deliberating leaving the non proliferation treaty which based on the precedence of north korea\ , all they have to do is give a ninety day notice. I imagine the usa will want to make a deal before then as the usa made a deal with north korea on the 89th day but... we will see. \n\n\n\n All that is for sure is Iran h asn't bowed to the israel+usa nor threw a punch at israel+usa. \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/11691-us-strikes-iran-nuclear-sites/ #findComment-74665\n\n\n\n @umbrarchist \n\n\n\n Even enough but the usa has had more real estate bubble pops than any other country in the last tw enty five  years\, i count three at least\, and the usa government is sti ll going strong. \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/11691-us- strikes-iran-nuclear-sites/#findComment-74684\n\n\n\n  @aka Contrarian\n\ n\n\n \n On 6/24/2025 at 3:55 PM\, aka Contrarian said:\n \n\n \n \n W ar. What's it good for?\n \n \n\n\n\n one of the most important things hu man governments need\, reboots.  Peace has a very great negative\, it all ows the inefficiencies to live on. Peace never gets rid of inefficiency\, merely allows it to mutate into something far worse\, albeit even if no on e cognizes it at the time.\n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/1 1691-us-strikes-iran-nuclear-sites/#findComment-74693\n\n\n\n @Troy\n\n\n\ n   On 6/24/2025 at 10:10 PM\, Troy said:\n\n\n\n Absolutely nothin'!\ n\n\n\n yeah\, lovely song\, lovely voice:) all black folks know it .... b ut the song's message is wrong. War is good for somethings. I argue some s ongs messages have to be reputed really. \n\n\n\n @aka Contrarian\n\n\n\n do you remember when nina simone said this[you have to scroll to the bott om of the following link]\, i say this is my response to what good war is for?\n\n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/11691-us-s trikes-iran-nuclear-sites/#findComment-74713\n\n\n\n I didn't [at] Troy be cause I am not commenting to oppose Troy's points as I will reassert in th e following\, I am not interested in prosyletization but I will publicly o ppose positions I see as flawed.\n\n\n\n \n On 6/25/2025 at 12:53 PM\, Tr oy said:\n \n\n \n \n I agree with Starr's lyrics particularly in the c ontext of the Vietnam war era. \n \n \n\n\n\n Well... good\, please keep your position standalone or in context of the vietnam war. I don't want i t to change for any reason. \n\n\n\n But I have to protest this. The Viet nam was was a billion dollar money making machine\, the illegal profits al one were grand. Money matters. I always find it funny how many black peopl e  in the usa\, especially DOSers talk about money making but then want t o war has no good when was tends to make more money than most things espec ially peaceful things. \n\n\n\n \n On 6/25/2025 at 12:53 PM\, Troy said: \n \n\n \n \n Nina Simone's commentary on protecting Malcom X completel y ignores who bombed his home and ultimately gunned him down\, which was k nown when she made the statements...\n \n \n\n\n\n Again\, I want it know n I do not want Troy's position to change nor am I regaling Troy or anyone else. But\, this is false. \n\n\n\n First\, the federal bureau of invest igation are suggested by many to have infiltrated every single organizatio n in the usa. Of course\, I have no proof\, no proof whatsoever. But I can believe it. I know Malcolm x's bodyguard was an agent. So... this goes ba ck to nina simone's point the black people who talk most about peace are w illing to exist alongside blacks like malcolm x's former bodyguard\, and t he horde of others mostly I bet still not publicly known or listed\, inclu ding in the nation of islam against malcolm who are harming the village. h er point is true\, if you want to protect your racial populace you have to be willing to kill\, those in or out of your racial populace who are enem ies\, which includes nation of islam members who are agents\, bodyguards o f leaders who are against as well as kkk non blacks. \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n  @ProfD\n\n\n\n \n On 6/26/2025 at 2:17 AM\, ProfD said:\n \n\n \n \n At the same time\, POTUS OJ is still offering to *make a deal* with the Iranians.😎\n \n \n\n\n\n of course\, didn't the usa make a deal with n orth korea on the 89th day of them leaving the non proliferation treaty\, which led to north korea pausing it [even though they continued it later]?  \n\n\n\n so I can see schrumpft making a deal as the iranians legislativ e body is mulling over getting out the non proliferation treaty\n\n\n\n   \n\n\n\n It seems for now Iran is not playing their hand\, every second th ey wait they put pressure on the usa. \n\n\n\n https://www.tasnimnews.com /en/news/2025/06/26/3342970/iran-reaffirms-right-to-peaceful-nuclear-energ y-within-npt-framework\n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n Iran Reaffirms Right to Peaceful Nuclear Energy within NPT Framework\n\n\n\n June\, 26\, 2025\n\n\n\n TEHR AN (Tasnim) – Iran’s Foreign Ministry reiterated that the country will not yield to pressure or aggression\, emphasizing that the right to lawfu l access to nuclear energy is non-negotiable under international treaties. \n\n\n\n Speaking to Al Jazeera\, Iran’s Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Ismael Baqaei emphasized that Iran’s right to peaceful nuclear energy re mains unchanged and warned that any future cooperation with the IAEA depen ds on international recognition of Iran’s legal entitlements and protect ion of its national security.\n\n\n\n The following is the full text of th e interview:\n\n\n\n Question: Well\, joining us now on Al Jazeera is Iran 's Foreign Ministry spokesman\, Ismael Baqaei. He's live from Tehran. Than k you so much\, Baqaei\, for being with us on Al Jazeera. So\, (US) Presid ent (Donald) Trump is insisting that Tehran’s nuclear program has been c ompletely destroyed. He said\, quote\, \"The US strikes were a perfect ope ration that obliterated Iran's nuclear capabilities.\" What's your respons e to that? What's the initial damage assessment at your nuclear sites?\n\n \n\n Baqaei: I think what matters here—and should not be overshadowed by beautiful words and different positions taken by the United States—is t he fact that we witnessed a detrimental blow to international law\, to the NPT regime\, and to the moral ethics of the international community. So\, what matters most here is for the international community to understand t hat the US military strikes were an act of aggression against Iran's terri torial integrity and national sovereignty. That matters most.\n\n\n\n Ques tion: Okay\, understood. But when the US president says that Iran's nuclea r program has been completely destroyed\, do you reject or accept that?\n\ n\n\n Baqaei: What I have to say is that Iran's right to peaceful nuclear energy remains intact. Iran has every right under the NPT\, under Article 4 of the NPT\, to enjoy using nuclear energy for peaceful purposes\, and I ran is determined to preserve that right under any circumstances.\n\n\n\n Question: Okay\, can you tell us what's left of the Iranian nuclear progra m and the uranium stockpiles? Has Iran been able to salvage any of the ura nium stockpiles before the US bombing?\n\n\n\n Baqaei: As I said\, I think these are secondary issues. The primary concern of the international comm unity has to be to condemn this lawless act by the United States. I think it is really a very bad sign that many people across the globe are trying to underestimate the depth and gravity of the American act of aggression a gainst Iran\, and now they are talking about the level of strikes or its e ffectiveness. The international community has to understand that what was done by the United States against Iran was a horrible blow to internationa l diplomacy\, to international law\, and to international ethics.\n\n\n\n Question: Understood\, sir. I just want to insist on the fact that the IAE A has called on Iran to allow nuclear inspectors at the site\, as this cea sefire with Israel is now in place. But instead\, I understand Iran is con sidering cutting cooperation with the UN nuclear agency. Can you tell us w hy and why you would not allow inspectors on the ground to verify the fact s?\n\n\n\n Baqaei: Don't you think it is only natural for the representati ves of a nation that has come under an egregious act of aggression to reco nsider the way they have been dealing with the IAEA? Yes\, there has been a draft bill by our parliament today—it has been adopted—and it talks about suspending our cooperation with the IAEA. It talks about suspending\ , not putting an end to\, the cooperation\, with two conditions: first\, t hat Iran's inalienable rights under the NPT\, under Article 4 of the NPT\, must be recognized. The second thing is that the security and safety of o ur nuclear installations\, our scientists\, and our people should be prese rved. So\, I think it's only logical—it's a matter of logic and law—be cause if we are going to be a responsible member of the NPT\, we have to b e able to enjoy the rights that are afforded to every member state of this treaty.\n\n\n\n Question: Speaking of the NPT\, sir\, you also talked abo ut Iran discussing suspending its participation in the Nuclear Non-Prolife ration Treaty. Is that something that's been seriously considered? Will Ir an pull out of the NPT after this war?\n\n\n\n Baqaei: As I said\, the dra ft bill of the parliament talks about suspending our cooperation with the IAEA. It doesn't talk about suspending our participation or membership in the treaty. And I think the bill again is in line with the parameters of t he NPT because the bill talks about guaranteeing our rights under the NPT. \n\n\n\n Question: You're right under the NPT\, and you've said this befor e\, sir\, that Iran has the right to enrich uranium. Can you tell us—I'm going to insist on this a little bit more—what remains operational toda y as far as Iran's nuclear program?\n\n\n\n Baqaei: I have nothing to add on this matter because it's a technical issue. Our Atomic Energy Organizat ion and other relevant agencies are working on that. But yes\, our nuclear installations have been badly damaged—that's for sure—because they ha ve come under repeated attacks by Israeli and American aggressors. Again\, what matters most for the people in the region and beyond is to really un derstand the depth of this lawlessness that happened for the past 12 days against Iran.\n\n\n\n Question: President Trump also said today while he w as at the NATO summit that\, quote\, \"We'll end up having somewhat of a r elationship with Iran after this conflict.\" Are you open to that now that your country is no longer under fire—being attacked\, as you say? Are y ou willing to negotiate with the US?\n\n\n\n Baqaei: We have been hearing all sorts of contradictory remarks for the past two or three months. There have been many contradictions within the American bureaucracy\, within th e American establishment. While they have been talking about diplomacy\, t hey green light the Israelis to attack Iran only two days before our sched uled meeting in Muscat. My nation came under an act of aggression by Israe l. So\, has there remained any trust in them? Because they are talking abo ut different things\, acting differently\, and now they have to be held ac countable for the aggression that they have committed against my country i n collusion with the Israelis. And that's something that our people want —as the government\, they expect the international community to hold the aggressors accountable before anything else.\n\n\n\n Question: So\, are y ou saying that you're no longer interested in talking to the Americans?\n\ n\n\n Baqaei: What I'm trying to say is that they torpedoed diplomacy. As far as Iran is concerned\, we have said diplomacy never ends—even during the height of the imposed war against Iran\, we continued talking to diff erent actors in order to save lives and to make sure that our national sec urity is protected. But the point is that the other parties are talking ab out dialogue and diplomacy while at the same time committing acts of aggre ssion. These contradictions have only created more and more problems.\n\n\ n\n Question: Okay\, so what preconditions\, if any\, would Iran require f or any future negotiations?\n\n\n\n Baqaei: For the time being\, we are fo cused—just one day after the stoppage of the aggression by the Israeli s—on our security\, on our people\, because people are outraged at what happened. So\, at this time\, I think we have nothing to say about those c ontradictory remarks regarding diplomacy or negotiations because we have t o make sure whether the other parties are really serious when they're talk ing about diplomacy or if it is again part of their tactics to create more problems for the region and for my country.\n\n\n\n Question: Okay\, let me ask you\, sir\, about the ceasefire—briefly—between Israel and Iran \, which is now in place and is holding. What are the key elements require d to maintain this ceasefire\, this truce? Are there any active diplomatic channels that are supporting this truce behind the scenes?\n\n\n\n Baqaei : As you see\, we were approached by Qataris to stop this war—this impos ed war against Iran. We didn't start this war\, and we agreed to stop afte r they approached us\, after the Americans approached Qatar. So\, it is ve ry clear: we have been under attack\, we have been subjected to an act of aggression. So\, we will defend in case there is any act of military strik es\, any act of aggression against Iran.\n\n\n\n Question: Baqaei\, one la st question if I can. Iranian officials have projected an image of strengt h and stability—even victory—in the face of this conflict. As you say\ , Iran was attacked by Israel\, but the toll has been significant for Iran : over 600 casualties\, widespread destruction of military and civilian si tes. We don't yet know the extent of the destruction of the nuclear sites. When Iranian officials claim victory today\, what does victory mean? What does victory look like? What did Iran achieve realistically in this confl ict?\n\n\n\n Baqaei: We suffered a lot—that's for sure. Our people were massacred by Israeli aggression\; that's war crimes against humanity\, and they have to be held accountable. But the point is that our people showed that they are resolute in defense of their national security and sovereig nty. And I think\, given the fact that this imposed war was orchestrated\, planned\, and operationalized with the help of Americans\, it means that we had to resist against an attack by the United States\, by Israelis—by two nuclear-armed actors—and the fact that they were supported by some other actors as well across the Western Hemisphere. So\, it means that we were able\, as a nation\, to defend our identity\, our security\, and at t he end\, we had to make them—they had to submit to the will of the Irani an people through resistance—to approach us and ask for this ceasefire.\ n\n\n\n Question: So\, they approached you and asked you for the ceasefire —just to confirm?\n\n\n\n Baqaei: We were approached by our friends from Qatar. And of course\, as I said\, we have never welcomed war. We are a n ation of peace-loving people. No responsible actor\, no responsible state in our region welcomes war. It is only one actor in our region that has al ways been trying to wage war against the people in our region. They are co mmitting\, as you know\, genocide in Gaza for the past two years. They are occupying the lands of two Muslim countries—Syria and Lebanon—and eve ryone knows that they are warmongers that have no respect for internationa l law\, for international ethics\, or morality. So yes\, we\, as a nation\ , were able to resist against this unjust war for the past 12 days.\n\n\n\ n Question: Baqaei\, just one final question if I may. You mentioned Qatar \, and the Qataris have expressed dissatisfaction at the attack on the Ame rican base here in Qatar\, strongly condemned it\, and said that this cons titutes a scar in the relationship between Iran and Qatar today. What is I ran going to do to repair this relationship?\n\n\n\n Baqaei: We have high respect for Qataris\, and we attach significant importance to our good rel ations with Qatar. We have been good friends with Qatar during their diffi cult times\, and Qataris have also been our good friends. We are good frie nds\, basically\, with all countries—the littoral states of the Persian Gulf. We have made it clear that the military strikes against Al Udeid had nothing to do with Qatar. We respect the territorial integrity and nation al security of Qatar. It was in exercise of our right of self-defense agai nst American aggression against our peaceful nuclear installations. So\, a t the high level\, our president talked to Qataris\; our minister of forei gn affairs did as well. We tried to clarify that what was done was against the American base in exercise of our right of self-defense. So\, we are c ommitted to our good-neighborliness policy with Qatar and other countries of the region. And I personally am really unhappy about any inconvenience that has been caused to our Qatari sisters and brothers as a result of thi s attack. But as we said\, this self-defense operation was calibrated in d efense of our rights under Article 51 of the Charter\, in response to Amer ican aggression against our territorial integrity.\n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n  \n \n\n\n https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/11691-us-strikes-iran-nuclear-sites/#fin dComment-74772\n\n\n\n  @ProfD\n\n\n\n \n On 6/26/2025 at 12:48 PM\, Pro fD said:\n \n\n \n \n This provides context to the Ayatollah's proclama tion of a *victory*.\n \n\n \n  \n \n\n \n When I initially heard about the Ayatollah saying Iran slapped the US\, I wondered if he was smo king that Islamic hemp.🤣 \n \n\n \n  \n \n\n \n Now\, I under stand the Ayatollah's thought process from the perspective of the Iranian resistance to the 2-headed devil that attacked them.😎\n \n \n\n\n\n yo ur welcome for the proper reporting:)\n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n @aka Contrarian\n \n\n\n \n 10 hours ago\, aka Contrarian said:\n \n\n \n \n I still say Palestine terrorists started this war and israeli Zionists are prolonging it. There are no good guys nor bad guys. No heroes nor villains. Just rel igious fanatics and power hungry leaders. MEN.\n \n \n\n\n\n Well this is two wars. \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n the USA+UK started the war between palesti neans side zionists\, it is a war that has been going on since 1920 betwee n the palestinean muslim and the zionist jew. but it was not started by ei ther\, it was started by the usa+uk. uk could have easily blockaded the zi onist knowing fully well\, the palestineans didn't want them as photos of palestinean protest show. the usa did their part by allowing finances and resources to zionist populations. the rest is inevitability. A war that ha s gone on for one hundred and five years\, like the hundred years war betw een england and france with various interbellums [moments between the war\ , some call ceasefires\, some falsely call peace]\n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n the w ar between iran and israel was started by the usa when they supported the shah whose governing quality created the ayotollah\, but as the jordan cur rent king said\, his father warned the shah and the shah didn't heed\, so everybody in the region and by some three letter people [ central intellig ence agency] of the security industry in the usa knew too but it wasn't he eded for whatever reason and the ayotollah took over and embarrassed the s ecurity industry in the usa.  And the second the ayotollah took over he o pposed iraq/saudi arabia/israel/usa and that was when the war between isra el /iran started but it wasn't started by iran or israel\, it was started by the usa who was so concerned about oil and having israel + iran as satr aps that the condition of the iranian majority was second fiddle and the w hitephile or europhile fiscally wealthy iranian minority that was wearing mini skirts or rock and rolling were told to go into gilded shadows or lea ve. but the usa started the iran+ israel war. \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n You are correct war doesn't breed heroes or villains\, good guys or bad guys\, th at is very wise\, but it isn't fanatacism or power hungry leaders. It is m ore than that. It is about identity. \n\n\n\n Unlike Black descended of e nslaved whom seem to like internal conflict in their populace\, some peopl es want their populace to have a cohesion that warrants the word community . and that means when others are around who want to challenge that identit y you have to fight\, you have to kill\, to make sure you reach or maintai n the identity you want. \n\n\n\n Iran doesn't want to have usa military bases in their country like saudi arabia/qatar. Iran don't want to have ar rangements with israel nor do they want israel in the region. Iran wants p alestineans to get palestine back. Iranians want to have the tools to dete r the usa from attacking iran cheaply. that is identity and since war is t he only way\, then war is a good way. \n\n DTSTART;VALUE=DATE:20250612 RRULE:FREQ=YEARLY;INTERVAL=1 END:VEVENT END:VCALENDAR