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SUMMARY:My Thoughts to questions of Ryan Cooglers Sinners from Movie
	s That Move We
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ORGANIZER;CN="richardmurray":troy@aalbc.com
DESCRIPTION:\n	I was asked by Movies That Move We\n\n\n\n	https://www.yo
	utube.com/@moviesthatmoveswe/videos\n\n\n\n	 \n\n\n\n	\n\n\n\n	 \n\n\n\n
		MY ANSWER\n\n\n\n	 \n\n\n\n	hmm coogler's message... I see a number of t
	hem... first\, he was willing to spend his money on a story involving Blac
	k DOS heritage that isn't a biopic while is an adventure tale\, so his fir
	st message is for black people who have the money to invest in making stor
	ies they care about even if a financially viable precedence. I can't recal
	l a black southern vampire adventure movie. he created what he wanted. \; 
	second that a film based on a black southern vampire adventure has an audi
	ence willing to make it a hit if made under a certain budget\, he succeede
	d. third: a movie can have an entire cast of black characters who are midd
	le of the road. No pantomime black antagonist or protagonist here. I think
	 of that will smith movie where he fights his younger self. or that van da
	mme film where he was a twin. At the end of this film\, one twin is off wi
	th his deceased wife and child into a happy netherrealm while the other tw
	in is with his yella woman as one who will live as long as they don't see 
	sunlight\, a sort of prison/enslavement. Both men did some negative things
	 but both have found peace. For black male characters in films this is at 
	the most least rare\, or at the most unheard of. fourth: two female black 
	leads exist. The good female black lead is a black woman with the brownest
	 complexion/darkest \, big beautiful lips\, shapely large breast\, wide th
	ickbone body. The bad is hella yella and ends up a vampire but isn't wildy
	 roaming or something. I think he wanted to say both can exist in a movie 
	positively. He succeeded. fifth: native americans \, in a traditional sens
	e\, can exist in black dos fiction adventures. Not unheard of\, ala Buck a
	nd the preacher or Posse but still rare.  Sixth: black love winning. yes 
	vampires but they live. yes dead but they are viewed happy in the netherre
	alm. How often are black lovers viewed at the end of a film happy? think o
	f school daze/ghost dog way of the samurai. Many films with black people i
	n production\, either don't have black love or black love isn't the final 
	note. \n\n\n\n	Now to the questions in graphics: \n\n	1) does sinners po
	rtray faith as liberation- or illusion? \n\n	2)how does the film complica
	te the role of religion in black communities? \n\n\n\n	Good questions. \
	n\n	To the first the question is\, which faith? What is faith?  The probl
	em with faith as a word is people usually think of faith and think of reli
	gion. But faith is not about religion. It is about a belief in anything wi
	thout proof. \n\n	I argue the twin whose child died had a lose of faith i
	n religions [christianity or hoodoo] but not in humanity or himself\, in l
	ife\, ala their end. He had faith in his love. And believed in that love b
	eing forever. So did his wife and of course the child.\n\n\n\n	What is the
	 role of religion in the black populace of the usa? The number of black in
	dividuals whose religion is essential to their being has changed from 1865
	 to 2025. But the role of religion has always been complicated in the blac
	k populace of the usa. Did the movie suggest it is more complicated? I arg
	ue not enough black people have explained how many various black religious
	 groups existed and exist in the black populace of the usa.  Yes many bla
	ck people are like the blues players father but many black people were lik
	e Annie\, believed in more than Christianity. Arguably more did. My point 
	is\, Black people didn't convey the breadth or width or heritages in the b
	lack populace in the usa. again\, the black native americans/Seminoles\, t
	he black catholics from Haiti with syncretic voodoo\, the Gullah or Geeche
	e with a mix of various beliefs including islam\, the pre war between the 
	states Christianity which was absent churches as we were enslaved plus mos
	tly through spirituals as most black people couldn't read. We black people
	 in not talking about our heritage in the usa from the 1800s to today \, m
	ade religion in our community seem simple\, when it never was.\n\n\n\n	htt
	ps://www.facebook.com/share/p/16yxBWNW8J/\n\n\n\n	 \n\n\n\n	FORUM POST\n\
	n\n\n	 \n\n\n\n	https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/11683-ryan-cooglers-sinners-qu
	estions/\n\n\n\n	 \n\n
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