BEGIN:VCALENDAR VERSION:2.0 PRODID:-//InvisionCommunity Events 5.0.18//EN METHOD:PUBLISH CALSCALE:GREGORIAN REFRESH-INTERVAL:PT15M X-PUBLISHED-TTL:PT15M X-WR-CALNAME:RMWorkCalendar NAME:RMWorkCalendar BEGIN:VTIMEZONE TZID:Europe/London TZURL:https://tzurl.org/zoneinfo/Europe/London X-LIC-LOCATION:Europe/London BEGIN:DAYLIGHT TZOFFSETFROM:+0000 TZOFFSETTO:+0100 TZNAME:BST DTSTART:20250330T020000Z RRULE:FREQ=YEARLY;BYMONTH=3;BYDAY=-1SU END:DAYLIGHT BEGIN:STANDARD TZOFFSETFROM:+0100 TZOFFSETTO:+0000 TZNAME:GMT DTSTART:20251026T020000Z RRULE:FREQ=YEARLY;BYMONTH=10;BYDAY=-1SU END:STANDARD END:VTIMEZONE BEGIN:VEVENT SUMMARY:MLK jr day GOOD NEWS CALENDAR DTSTAMP:20250619T121050Z SEQUENCE:0 UID:356-5-c3fe8195a3dde498d013e477e2142422@aalbc.com ORGANIZER;CN="richardmurray":noreply@aalbc.com DESCRIPTION:\n MLK jr was born January 15th 1929 on a tuesday but the ce lebration is on the third  monday of janaury by the uniform monday holida y act [ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniform_Monday_Holiday_Act ] \n\n \n\n \n His actual birthday is the fifteenth of january but the federal holiday is in a monday for three day weekends\, like others. It is ce lebrated on the third monday in the month of january in every year sin ce its inception in the Statian Empire. I ask you to share \, historic al fictions/prose/graphical artwork in any style concerning MArtin Luthe r King jr....I do wonder why Blacks in the U.S.A. can not come together and demand a true day off for this federal notice. And also share\, offic ials days in a country outside the usa for a black person in history?   \n \n\n\n\n \n In Amendment  \n \n\n\n\n \n Why the holiday is on his the third monday and not his true birthday?  \n \n\n\n\n \n https ://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniform_Monday_Holiday_Act  \n \n\n\n\n \n ML K jr's views on Financial Accountability  \n \n\n\n\n \n https://www. youtube.com/watch?v=RnKP__N7MNI \n \n\n\n\n \n  MY 2020 speech  \n \n \n\n\n \n https://aalbc.com/tc/blogs/entry/194-richard-murray-creative-ta ble/page/7/?tab=comments#comment-820  \n \n\n\n\n MLK jr on Movies that Move We \n\n\n\n [ https://aalbc.com/tc/profile/6477-richardmurray/?statu s=1785&\;type=status ]\n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n ON FINANCIAL ACCOUNTABILITY\n \n\n\n \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n MY PROSE\n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n MLK jr day 1/20/202 0\n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n \n Many presented videos or text concerning M.L.K. j unior today\, the twentieth of January. As a point of note\, Martin Luther King junior's birthday is on the fifteenth of January\, not the third Mon day of every January. I am not interested in trying to rewrite the legend of MLK junior. MLK junior like most other historical figures in the USA wa s made legend after doing legendary things by others\, not themselves\, by those with agenda. It is more important to change the message in current media than to try to change the influence of past media using current medi a.   \n \n\n\n\n \n My issue is ownership. Martin Luther King junior\, asked a simple thing to the black statian\, the black community in the US A. Do not use the ways of whites on the path to ownership. It may sound si mple but\, it is not\, historically the ways of whites have never been und one concerning ownership.  \n \n\n\n\n \n Comprehend a simple historica l fact. People of white European\, white is a phenotypical label while Eur opean is a geographic\, descent are not the majority owners in the united states of america based on positive merit\, or decency\, or any positive angle. Every inch of land in the u.s.a. today is owned or controlled by the u.s.a. government\, itself ranked mostly with whites\, or in privat e white ownership\, through various transfers after it was originally take n by killing native americans. Absent land how many firms will exist in t he USA? What will the banks or the agricultural firms be in the u.s.a ab sent slavery? For all the technological modifications by usa based agric ultural firms or investments in Silicon Valley in the stock markets\, wher e will any bank or agricultural firm be in the usa without their origina l fiscal activities involving slaveholders accounts or slave labor for gro wing produce. Notice I did not refer to an individual person. I am speakin g to the white community. The white community in the usa used negative mea ns to become owners and then become financially successful owners.  \n \ n\n\n\n \n Martin Luther King junior spoke to Black people\, grow\, be st rong\, become owners of your own community and beyond\; but don't kill ano ther for their land\, don't take another person's land\, don't enslave ano ther\, do not do for yourself\, your bloodline\, your community by harming others. This is the reality of ownership in the u.s.a. White people hel p themselves\, their community\, built on their forebears originally harmi ng others or themselves continuing to harm others. \n \n\n\n\n \n Martin Luther King Junior did not want black people to develop a negative charac ter\, a negative legacy\, to be unmerited while trying to help their own. He asked a very challenging thing. Martin Luther King junior once said\, i t is a crude jest to tell a bootless man to lift himself up by his bootstr aps. But he also felt the bootless man should not lessen his character by stealing another man's boots. He felt the bootless man should be strong en ough to merit his boots through craft\, labor\, or another's kindness. As a black kid growing up\, in a black community\, incorrectly labeled but wi dely labeled\, the black mecca\, I realized how little the black community in Harlem owned. And in parallel\, I knew how much various white communit ies in New york city owned\, more importantly how they owned them. What would the Irish or Italian or white Jewish communities be in new york c ity absent their mobs\, correctly glorified in constant movies. It was the white jewish\, italian or irish mobs\, the gangsters\, the rum runne rs\, the extortionists\, the thieves\, that had a largest or initial role in the development of ownership in those communities in New York city.   \n \n\n\n\n \n I end\, with a simple truth\, the Black community in Harle m\, a cultural district in Manhattan in new york city in new york stat e\, in the united states of america\, owns little to nothing in Harlem\, yesterday or today. The history of the u.s.a. proves all ownership in t he u.s.a. comes from those who were willing to negatively\, or through n egative actions\, earn it. MLK junior asked black people to reject that hi storical truth\, even when we own so little.  \n \n\n\n\n \n If the Bla ck statian can keep that hope of MLK jr. alive and one day exist in a  u.s.a. where Black people own more than all others\, or at least enough to not need another community. It will be a testament to MLK junior’s f aith. And make the Black community have a pride\, worth more than all th e years whites owned far more. \n \n\n\n\n \n https://youtu.be/RnKP__N7M NI \n \n\n\n\n \n  Poetry or more audiobook series https://www.kobo.co m/us/en/search?query=Poetry or More&\;fcsearchfield=Series&\;seriesI d=06baba96-5af5-5d24-9b8a-f06360287dc9\n \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n MLK jr on Mov ies that Move We \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n Movies that Move WE- Selma \n\n\n\n \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n MY COMMENT\n\n\n\n odd that this year\, ML K jr day is the same time as Marcus Garvey's birthday.. I think the contra st between marcus garvey's long term vision as opposed to the long term vi sion of MLKjr or his predecessors\, WEB DUbois when young or earlier Frede rick DOuglass \, concerning the relationship of blacks in the americas ame ricas  to whites  in the americas.\n\n\n\n\n Now to the video...\n\n 6:4 0 yes\, MLK jr was not a fool about being an advocate . He knew it wasn't financially grand nor had a great chance of true success. But\, the identi ty of a christian baptist preacher was important to regaling. \n\n 8:04 y es\, black businesses had a huge role in financing the civil rights moveme nt of the 1960s\, I wonder if they got their money's worth\n\n 9:01 black christian women have always been the backbone or the administration or com munal arrangement of the black church.\n\n 9:32 My home had people who wer e at the march on washington. I concur to Nicole\, having people who were in the home who experienced the history is key\, but only truly matters if they convey it\n\n 11:10 yes Nicole \, the disconnect is the communities fault. Every community in the usa\, from the embattled native american to the afghanistani's from the iraq war have to teach who they are to their c hildren and all who fail to get the proper results\n\n 14:14 good point\, Nike\, the illusion that the past is so far from the present. Like the rac ial is so far from the post racial\n\n 15:35 good dialog\, Nicole/Nike abo ut the progression of black history in the usa and how the black community has changed very fast while also very irratically for various reasons\n\n 16:47 You two offer the question many have asked before and many will ask after... how did the black community not maintain a highly serious collec tive tone from circa 1850 to circa 2022 ? \n\n 19:47 Nicole\, urgency fro m whom? How many black people\, who are in elected office\, are millionair es\, feel the sense for urgency seriously? they all will say urgency is ne eded. but\, how many truly feel that?\n\n 26:41 MLK jr is a legendary spea ker\, funny how Malcolm is also the son of a preacher man \n\n 27:55 the last speech from mlk jr in harlem was at the riverside church\, which has the largest carillon in the world\n\n https://www.democracynow.org/2022/1/ 17/mlk_day_special_2022#:~:text=We play his “Beyond Vietnam” speech%2C which he\,Copy may not be in its final form. \n\n where do we go from he re\n\n https://kinginstitute.stanford.edu/where-do-we-go-here\n\n 29:35 ye s\, but history books in mass education generally soften history. Historie s details are by default\, not a quick thing. Histories details\, show how jews helped the naziz. How hong kong was the epicenter of domination by t he united kingdom over the entirety of china. Histories details\, show the good or supposed innocent are not that good or innocent\, how the bad or supposed hellish are not that sinful or devious.\n\n\n\n In conclusion\, y ou two made a lovely dialog\, but I will suggest you made one potent absen ce. All to often\, black people say\, what are we not doing? but answer in your own way\, what do we need to do?\n\n I know a number of black men wh o went to the million man march and the reality is\, black men showed up t o what the black organizers had planned\, but the black organizers had no plan whatsoever? Black men came from around the usa to be guided with func tionality or purpose not words or chastizement.\n\n I will give an example \, if a million black men came together\, and asked me what to do. I can s uggest\, make a credit union. Each man who is here put a dollar into a col lection and give each man a vote over how the money is used. Is it a brill iant plan? no. It is very simple. but it is function/purpose. It isn't a \ "do good fellas\" speech.\n\n What do you two black women want black peopl e to do specifically\, name one thing?   \n\n\n\n A last point\, Haile S ellasie offered land before his ousting by the communist party of ethiopia \, only a third of it was given by the communist government of ethiopia \ , but it went to rastafarians\, who grabbed the opportunity. I am doing re search to see how the black people of HArlem Selassie had originally offer ed the land did not know\, reject it or failed interest while black people from jamaica jumped on it. The town is called Shashamane. \n\n \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n 1/15/2026\n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n  hmmm\n\n\n\n @Pioneer1\n\n\n\n first thank you for stating where you think he went wrong. of the three co mments your the only one which means 33% I ponder how many black people ar e unwilling to question the likes of mlk jr in 2026 ? I have no way of get ting a statistic but by this simple post the potential is frightening. \n \n\n\n I know I haven't spoken on your judgment but it's funny in this com munity we can bicker with each other so easily and then some of us in here can't speak a judgement against dead leaders. It is a revealing balance.  \n\n\n\n Now you said you loved MLK jr so your critiques are not condemn ations. Just assessments all should have in the future to any past. \n\n\ n\n  \n\n\n\n now to your critiques\, \n\n\n\n \n On 1/15/2026 at 12:11 PM\, Pioneer1 said:\n \n\n \n \n He focused too much on integration in stead of empowered separation.\n\n He should have fought for the laws to be changed at every level to make sure we had equal access and opportunit y at every level in the United States and fight to make sure those laws we re enforce.  Outside of that\, the focus should have been on progressing our ethnicity and culture as AfroAmericans.\n \n \n\n\n\n Well what leade rs talked before mlkjr talked about empowered separation? they were the ex odusters[based on collective land ownership to make base black towns first \, not black people owning land in white towns]+ the garveyites[based on b usiness ownership initially\, then geographic distance{far east asia is th e farthest from western europe so the garveyites had a point about distanc e}]+booker t washington[black colleges which were extensions of the black education movement immediately started at the end of the war between the s tates]\n\n\n\n MLK jr was born in 1929. By 1929 all the strongest empowere d separation movements in the black populace had lost much of their moment um. None died\, arguably none are dead\, but their momentum wasn't what it was in the late 1800s. \n\n\n\n So MLK jr didn't have a reference growin g up of empowered separation. The only reference he had was integration in various forms. From atlanta\, to morehouse\, to the greater georgia integ ration was the system about him. \n\n\n\n Could he had focused on empower ed separation ? 100% yes. Would it been a bad choice? no idea\, but it cou ld had succeeded. Was an example around to compel him? no. He needed a suc cessful example. MLK jr like most leaders is thoughtful. The reason someth ing isn't present isn't because it can't work but because it will take mor e time or more effort to do.  \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n The usa government has a very big problem in terms of federal application\, in equal access and opportunity. The power of states rights. It is the year 2026 and Schrumpt is the first president after circa two hundred and fifty years to try and actually impose the federal government on the states with the resources to actually do something.  Not merely cause of federal power but states in the usa are lower than they are ever been\, all are welfare recipients. th e original idea was states would never need the federal government. Andrew jackson\, Abraham Lincoln\, even FDR for all of their fervor\, didn't hav e the means to actually make a federal imposition on the states like Schru mpft today. What does this mean? states got away with a lot of federal cri mes within themselves\, because the constitution clearly gives states free dom to be themselves and forces citizens to take a state to court for chan ges.  This is why white people burned black people out of the south\, bec ause by deleting our voting power\, it meant we couldn't use the vote to c hange the states\, we could only use the legal system which is very slow c ompared to a state wide elections. The constitution is clear\, states are not to be ruled by the federal government\, which means what. If you are b lack in mississippi\, and white people have raped your wife\, burned your children\, put your elders in jail without due process or with laws that a re uneven in design. If all the actions are finalized within the legal des igns of the state of mississippi\, you can only take missisppi to court ov er each action toward the supreme court. That is the only nonviolent solut ion in the usa for any person from a populace with a minority in a state. The black populace in misssisippi doesn't have the numbers to push people into government and get laws to support it by MLK jr's time. MLK jr was a pastor\, third generation\, of a black church. No black christian congrega tion in the 1900s would accept preaching about collective violence. Protec ting oneself? 100% but being in a violent mob? no. \n\n\n\n So what your suggesting was doable by him\, but he would had to stop being a preacher t o do that. Because nonviolence in the usa means taking whomever your suing to the supreme court\,a very lengthy process \, one that is not guarantee d to get to the surpreme court\, and one most importantly\, that doesn't n ecessarily stop the person/entity being sued from continuing their actions . While the said black man in mississippi is suing\, white people are hara ssing or worse constantly. \n\n\n\n Your top down is doable\, but It isn' t impossible. The NAACP was full of lawyers for that reason\; their strate gy was take every federal crime at the state levels to the supreme court. But so many crimes at the state level occurred. The volume was i argue ins urmountable. \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n MLK jr didn't spend enough time on the h eritage/what is carried + culture/what is grown of DOSers. He clearly comp rehended the importance\, ala his plea to Nichelle Nichols. \n\n\n\n As a n aside \, I ponder your thoughts on the larger black church? from circa 1 865 to 1965 arguably\, the black churches in the usa\, all denominations c ombined\, are the center of black life. What hindered the churches from fo cusing on heritage+ culture? Chruches financed lawyers\, got food together \, helped make shelter\, churches did many things\, communally\, but when it came to emboldening DOS heritage + culture they didn't do much. They di dn't even make a book of negro spirituals standard in every black christia ns pocket. Cause\, the negro spirituals is the earliest and purest black D OS christian liturgy or public work. Before black descended of enslaved ch ristians had the bible they had negro spirituals.  Great point here. \n\ n\n\n \n On 1/15/2026 at 12:11 PM\, Pioneer1 said:\n \n\n \n \n . Him and the rest of the Civil Rights leaders at that time should have focused more on fighting STRICTLY for the rights of FBA/AfroAmericans and not othe r minority groups.\n\n They should have been very specific about the Civ il Rights bill making it for us alone.\n\n Not that other groups shouldn 't have rights in this nation\, but that they should have been the ones to fight for it themselves....not rely on us to do the fighting.\n \n \n\n\ n\n Your second part slightly answers the last segment of the first. I arg ue that MLK jr and others \, many others\, wanted the culturee of the blac k descended of enslaved populace to be as shepards to a better usa for all peoples\, this goes back to frederick douglass and the 1800s black church . they knew the heritage was of a people who survived white terror but I t hink their culture was as a people who made the integrated future nonviole ntly. and thus by 2026 would become the heritage. Which arguably it has. I F you look at media\, most non blacks in the usa view black people as the integrators in the usa. More than anyone else. \n\n\n\n They made that ch oice. And it even has precedent. Remember\, the first three black tribes w hen the usa was founded were: the enslaved black folks who are chained whi le whites in the usa are gaining freedom circa 85%\,the black freemen who are trying to stop the usa\, with the promise of freedom\, which oddly eno ugh\, most of them get even though england lost circa 10%\, and then the b lack separatist\, fighting alongside whites who publicly supported black e nslavement to whites\, who would circa 90% be reenslaved at the end of the war. The black separatist were circa 5% of the percent of black folk. \n \n\n\n So the black folk who fought for the usa to be born circa july 4th is the historical precedent for the pan human rights fighting of the 1960s . Arguably\, the black freemen have always existed\, whether called black loyalist who also fought in the war of 1812 or black legions fighting in f rench colors in the commonly called world war one\,  but during after the commonly called world war 2\, that for black alone became very small as a movement in the usa. \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n 01/16/2026\n\n\n\n citation\n\n \n\n https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/12293-mlk-jr-day-is-on-the-19th-in-2026/#f indComment-79387\n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n @aka Contrarian\n\n\n\n MLK jr was a l eader\, not the leader of the civil rights movement. First the movement ag ainst Jim Crow started before MLK jr was born\, and ended after MLK jr die d so MLK jr was a leader\, as much of a leader as Fannie Lou Hamer\, or Fr ederick Douglass or Fred Hampton. Fred Hampton made the framework the enti re donkey party mimicked.  Madame CJ Walker and her daughter I argue were the two biggest civil rights leaders \, with only the black hotel owner w ho financed MLK jr as their peer financially\, cause those three people po sitively influenced alot of black people in ways very few other black peop le had or will\, take out marcus garvey and the garveyite movement\, becau se they had money. \n\n\n\n My question is why do black people say MLK jr was THE leader of the movement against Jim Crow when all black people sho uld know he wasn't. \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n   16 hours ago\, aka Contrari an said:\n\n\n\n MLK didn't ask to be the leader of the Civil Rights move ment.\n\n\n\n No he didn't ask to be THE leader\, but he wanted to be AN a dvocate for Black people and he was ... What your talking about is the dif ference between one's media role and one's true role. \n\n\n\n MLK jr was like MAlcolm like Stokely like Angela Davis\, A leader. None of them were THE leader. \n\n\n\n Now in Media \, which I Argue is the problem\, MLK jr was posited in white owned media as THE Leader. And the Black Church at that time\, who again\, needs to be called out\, pushed MLK jr in their a isles because he wasn't an areligious student: stokely\, he didn't hold a gun : panthers\, he wasn't a non christian: malcolm\, he wasn't a non coll ege educated woman: fanni lou hamer. So Balck churches did emphasize MLK j r to their forever dishonor for their own media agenda of attracting black people to the black christian church. \n\n\n\n   16 hours ago\, aka C ontrarian said:\n\n\n\n It was a responsibility thrust upon him because h e was so good at articulating grievances. It was like\, he woke up one mor ning during the Montgomery bus boycott and all of sudden he was its leader !\n\n\n\n no whites did that. Whites in media did that. The black church d id that. They both whites + the black church saw in MLKjr everything they wanted in black leadership. \n\n\n\n And the proof he wasn't THE leader i s he was never head of the southern black leadership conference. why does that matter? that post would had been better for him. But he was used as t he media front man\, as a leader.\n\n\n\n   16 hours ago\, aka Contrar ian said:\n\n\n\n He did not have time to map out a precise strategy or a long range grand plan\, he and his cobbleled-together posse just kinda ma de it up as they went along\, with Mahatma Gandhi's nonviolent philosophy as their inspiration.\n\n\n\n But he wasn't alone\, the way your describin g this history is for me very false. If a black child reads your words\, t hey will think MLK jr was walking around alone doing everything. That is a lie. Others made plans like Ruffin. The truth is Ruffin was always about integration because Ruffin was \, like FRederick Douglass before him\, vie wing black empowerment as part of human empowerment. Ruffin was a faggot w ho knew very well most black people in the 1950s 1960s wouldn't accept his true self in public\, even though they talk of rights\, they woudl want t o curtail his rights\, same thing with frederick douglass who had a white mistress. both of them had lives that denied black in various ways and so they wanted black empowerment but they wanted black empowerment within a g reater human allowance in the usa. \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n   16 hours ago\ , aka Contrarian said:\n\n\n\n The idea of making a lot of long-range\, multi-faceted demands was out of the question at that time. The movement j ust focused mainly on equal opportunities\, and King endeavored to appeal to the conscience of his oppressors.\n\n\n\n This is not true. Your forget ting the movement was not in a vaccuum. The movement against Jim Crow whic h was from 1865 to 1980 \, was being fought by black people absent weapons or an allowance of weapons aside whites with all the power. So\, black pe ople had to make everything as an arrangement with white desires and multi faceted demands were never going to happen in one whole phase with white p eople. \n\n\n\n For example\, white people knew other whites would terror ize black people in the former confederacy but that terror led to a falsel y incarcerated black populace rebuilding the south and kickstarting a fina ncial boom for white people that kept down white on white violence. White people knew other white  people were terrorizing black people in the west \, the exodusters\, but white people needed that land for new white immigr ants to increase the domestic market and didn't trust black people's posit ion toward native americans\, whom white immigrants killed in the bulkload . It is known Frederick Douglass  pushed black people on the underground railroad to not go to canada\, which was best for those black people. But why? because douglass wanted black people in the usa to be tied to this co untry\, he hated the idea of black people leaving the usa. So black people were definitely multifaceted\, but white people only allowed simple wins.  \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n   16 hours ago\, aka Contrarian said:\n\n\n\n In tegration was a counter to the separate but equal policy that was nothing more than subtle Jim Crowism. Integration represented fellowship and harmo ny where little black boys and girls would join hands with their white cou nterparts and partake of equality through tolerance. It was a dream\; henc e King's \"I have a dream\" speech. \n\n\n\n In retrospect \, cheap \, ve ry cheap retrospect\, years ago \, which I talked about in this very forum \, I oppose how people speak of integration in the usa. The people in the USA from 1492 to 2026 has always been integrated\, never separated. Jim Cr ow is a form of integration. Did Black people work for non blacks? yes. Di d black people buy from non blacks? yes. did non blacks buy goods from bla cks? yes. Did blacks and non blacks have two separate theaters ? no\, blac k people had to go to the theater white people owned. Did blacks and non b lacks have two separate bus lines? no\, black people had to use the bus li ne white people owned. Black people use the word segregated when they work for whites\, live in a mostly white town\, use a white owned bus\, buy fr om white stores who are the only stores in town. Most  Black people in th e usa live a totally integrated life with whites from 1865 to modernity\, but it is rarely an even life an equal life. The truth is the USA problem was never separate but equal\, ask the native american. The USA's problem was equal but uneven. Everybody is human in the usa\, from the european co lonial phase to 2026\, but the opportunities\, rights\, armed power\,  we re never even or equal. The USA was never in majority application segregat ory. Jim Crow was a form of integration. Enslavement before Jim Crow was a form of integration. The white massa in the house is not segregated from blacks pre 1865. Who cleaned massa's clothes? blacks . whose labor did mas sa profit off of? blacks. Who did massa fuck without payment? blacks. who cooked massa's meals? blacks. who cleaned massa's house? blacks. who playe d music and entertained massa or his guest? blacks. Massa say's he segrega ted from blacks while blacks are apart of every second of massa's life\, t hat is not segregation. That is integration. Inequal\, uneven? 100% but it is 100% integration. \n\n\n\n Integration isn't a dream. The form of int egration MLK jr championed in speeches\, or somewhat in appearance in fict ion is star trek\, is the hardest form of integration to acquire. Because that form of integration requires each individual to relinquish all biases \, positive or negative\, and that isn't easy. \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n   16 hours ago\, aka Contrarian said:\n\n\n\n In hindsight\, it's easy to cr iticize him for not embracing the militancy of those like Malcom X and the Black Panthers. But MLK was a man of his times and he was just beginning to re-think his goals when he was assassinated.\n\n\n\n Many think his tak ing a stance against the Vietnam war was a mistake but his doing so was in keeping with his pacifism.   \n\n\n\n yes\, hindsight is always cheap b ecause one in a future can never know what they will do in the past. \n\n \n\n But\, hindsight isn't unwarranted. We all make mistakes. It is intere sting you suggest a negative judgement from MLKjr for not being militant. Though \, again I don't think MAlcolm or the Black PAnthers were ever trul y militant. They weren't warlike. MAlcolm + the Panthers were demanding se lf defense over the court room. That isn't militancy\, that is looking at all the black people who have been murdered by whites who flouted the law in the usa or the european colonies that preceded it. The law didn't and d oesn't protect black people from white violence. has it? If a group of whi tes are hunting me\, how can I protect myself? quote the constitution or t he declaration of independence? how can nonviolence save a black life? Has nonviolence ever saved one black life? did it save emmitt till? sean bell ? The brother chocked to death in NYC\, I can't breath? the brother int he train a white man chocked to death? Did SOnya MAssey get saved by non vio lence? Did yusef hawkins get saved by non violence? Did breonna taylor get saved by non violence? Did clifford glover get saved by nonviolence? \n\ n\n\n Malcolm + The Black Panthers were not telling black people to have a combined armed revolt. Stokely either. Did fred hampton get saved by non violence? \n\n\n\n Why do some black people think\, when another black pe rson says\, have a gun for these whites\, that infers some sort of plan to kill all the whites? \n\n\n\n Is it some desire by some blacks to deny t heir own true hatred of whites while condemning other black people for sim ply being honest about the black condition in the usa? \n\n\n\n As james baldwin said\, his father worked for whites his whole life\, was a christi an man\, and hated whites more than anyone. prayed to go to heaven to be f ree of whites. Heaven don't have to be happy. \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n The fun ny thing about MLKjr's stance is nearly all black leaders in his time were against the Vietnam war. Poor Sammy is a complicated thing. \n\n\n\n Mal colm/Martin/Stokely/The Panthers/Muhammed Ali... name me five Black leader s in the usa during MLK jr's time who were for the vietnam war? White peop le in majority\, thank you Ken Burns in PBS for the proof\, were in majori ty for the vietnam war. The vietnam war made billions per year. So MLK jr being against the  Vietnam war was a mistake in that the white people who placed him in an elevated media position in white media\, not equal to hi s functional position in the anti jim crow movement\, were publicly for th e war or profiting off the war.  \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n   16 hours ago\,  aka Contrarian said:\n\n\n\n A cigarette-smoking\, scotch- drinking\, w omanizing King was not perfect\, but he fought the good fight\, and paved the way for those who eventually came to criticize him for not having more foresight. \n\n\n\n I lived through King's era\, and to me and my contem poraries\, he was a real live hero who died a martyr. \n\n\n\n My parents and a number of my blood relatives who i was able to learn of their exper iences during  Kings life\, older than king or younger than king\, all sp oke positively of him. None of them suggested any falsehood\, but each was able to admit problems. As well as admit a more honest environment than y ou suggest. \n\n\n\n And I oppose the notion of MLK jr as a womanizer. Ye s\, I speak now as a heterosexual male. Yes\, MLK jr like all heterosexual men gets a hard on for more than just the woman he loves with his heart. yes.  A man doesn't love a woman less because his dick gets hard for a wo man not his wife. Womanizer. MLK jr loved coretta scott king with his hear t. And it isn't a knock on coretta scott king that another black woman jus t might have a sexier ass than hers. \n\n\n\n And as for cigarette smokin g or drinking alcohol\, this was what nearly all adults did at that time \ , why is that a negative on MLK jr? \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n AKA Contrarian\, if you have reached this far\, .. MLK jr was a great black leader\, who wa s human and made mistakes\, which we in the future should be able to admit to so that we can do better. But\, MLKjr  was never the leader of the an ti jim crow movement\, he was one of many great black people who made intr icate plans\, but had to deal with white power which limited all results.  \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n @Pioneer1 \n\n\n\n just from a labeling perspective \, this goes back to my issue with people using the term communism. I said it already\, but communism is a form of fiscal capitalism. \n\n\n\n Comm unism isn't a form of socialism because of one party of governance under a government plus a government having a larger role as a fiscal operator. C ommunism is merely fiscal capitalism with one party having overwhelming ma jority and the government taking 80% or more of the fiscal operation. The usa in its very history had one party at one time\, the federalist.  Now the usa originally had a very financially impotent federal government who had very little of the fiscal operation \, but the federal government of t he usa today is without question the biggest fiscal operator in the usa\, so barring two parties whose dysfunction makes them one plus the financial role of the federal government of the usa today? is not the usa communist ? \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n It is like I say with Troy\n\n\n\n race/class/rank/ order/classification/species/clan all have the same basic definition. Some arrangement of things  based on a factor. \n\n\n\n When black people or non blacks say\, race doesn't exist? how? do humans being not look differ ent? do human beings not have clan names? do human beings not call themsel ves by a religious label? race is ever present. Does this mean a consensus exist on race? no. \n\n\n\n No consensus exist on race. Yes\, you will n ever get consensus on race\, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. When you call yourself human\, that is racist? \n\n\n\n And as always \, for s ome reason\, many humans hate the term bias. They love talking falsely on race and never like to use the word bias correctly\, cause most instances of race is really bias. \n\n\n\n And that goes back to integration in the usa. White negative bias towards blacks mixed with white power means blac k people lived and most still live integrated while totally unequal or  u neven to whites based on white negative bias. \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n It is 2 026. we have to stop using words falsely. \n\n\n\n Race is real\, race wi ll never have a consensus of definition\, nor should it\, but it is real\, and comes in more forms than just phenotype.\n\n\n\n Fiscal capitalism ha s been the system throughout all humanity  \, yes in variations with elem ents of other ideas but always fiscal capitalsm at heart.\n\n\n\n The anti jim crow movement\, was never led by one black leader because it lasted f rom 1865 to 1980\, the entirety of the jim crow era which came after the e ra of slavery from 1492 to 1865 and was followed by the era of the rainbow coalition from 1980 to today. But slavery\, jim crow\, and the rainbow co alition eras are all forms of integration\, with the levels of eveness or equality best in the rainbow\, worst in slavert.  And\, the limitations B lack people have in the usa were and always tied to the integration with w hites which is not even or equal but more positive in those two ways than ever before. \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n Citation\n\n\n\n https://aalbc.com/tc/to pic/12293-mlk-jr-day-is-on-the-19th-in-2026/#findComment-79390\n\n\n\n  \ n\n\n\n Posted just now\n\n\n\n @aka Contrarian\n\n\n\n   20 minutes ag o\, aka Contrarian said:\n\n\n\n Be advised that I had no problem with K ing smoking and drinking and liking women because I'm not a prude.  And I was drinking Scotch and smoking his brand of Salem cigarettes myself.\n\n \n\n are you a film noir lover?:) \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n   20 minutes ago \, aka Contrarian said:\n\n\n\n To me\, his indulgences made him more h uman. And he also had a very droll sense of humor which I related to.\n\n\ n\n well said:)\n\n\n\n   20 minutes ago\, aka Contrarian said:\n\n\n\ n I speak from the zeitgeist of my environment when I comment on his lead ership. I lived in the  Midwest\, not the Jim Crow South\, and from our p erspective\, as spectators\, he seemed to have just sprouted from nowhere\ , greatly helped by TV and his charisma.  You'd be surprised how much of a spectator many \"negroes\" were during the civil rights era inasmuch as we were not in the trenches but\, instead\, simply offering the activists our moral and financial support. To us\, the Movement was an idea whose t ime had come\, and we admired and supported both him and Malcolm. \n\n\n\ n I didn't know you were from the midwest\, I see:) No I wouldn't\, my eld ers said very clearly when we were watching malcolm x\, \, the film\, I pa raphrase\n\n\n\n \"that is a lie\, black people laughed at malcolm\"\n\n\n \n My elders were there. this country\, the usa \, loves near history rewr ites doesn't it. From the very beginning\, the european colonies made myth os out of themselves. In one generation from the mayflower\, white europea n invaders had created a false heritage of good peaceful folk trying to ma ke their way in the world beset by wild savages who dont't comprehend civi lization\, said wild savages supposedly all native americans. Hell\, most people supported the vietnam war. if you look at films\, you will think th e vietnam war was hated by most or at least opposed. but that isn't the tr uth. \n\n\n\n So the usa has a very negative heritage of lying about near history\, which tends to become commonly accepted in it. \n\n\n\n Not in AALBC of course:) \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n 1/17/2026\n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n Citat ion\n\n\n\n https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/12293-mlk-jr-day-is-on-the-19th-in- 2026/#findComment-79431\n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n  @ProfD\n\n\n\n \n On 1/16/20 26 at 8:07 PM\, ProfD said:\n \n\n \n \n The question is how many folks today are doing an ounce of what Dr. MLK Jr. did for Black folks over 50 years ago.\n \n \n\n\n\n Well\, first MLK jr alone didn't do anything. Th e idoltry to him I am 100% certain he would oppose cause  MLK jr wasn't t he leader of the anti jim crow movement\, he was a leader. HE was part of a group of Black people doing many things\, often in concert to help the l arger village. So no matter what one black person is doing\, if they are n ot part of a group of people doing similar it will come to nothing.\n\n\n\ n where are the groups of Black people doing something together? Cause no one was a superman during the 1960s for black people. \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n I don't think MLK jr would praise his activities or status so greatly. An d not from modesty but honesty. How many black children have been killed b y whites  since MLK jr died? I count many. How many black peple have been assaulted by whites from no provocation of their own\, being nonviolent\, since MLK jr died? \n\n\n\n You speak of what MLK jr did and yet what he did wasn't enough to stop the millions of assaults on black people from h is death to now in the usa by whites. \n\n\n\n Mae Louise Walls Miller wa s freed side her blood relatives from enslavement pre jim crow style in 19 63. Malcolm was murdered 1965. MLK jr was murdered 1968. So Both men and m any other black leaders died less than five years from a known case of bla ck enslavement  to a white in the usa... MLK jr was a great leader but th e environment for the greater black people proved failures on the parts of those before him like boooker t washington or web dubois and the environm ent after mlk jr proved the failures on the part of MLK jr and his peers l ike malcolm.\n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n \n On 1/16/2026 at 8:07 PM\, ProfD said:\ n \n\n \n \n Based on credentials\,  Dr. MLK Jr. could have lived an a ffluent life like modern day pimps in the pulpit. He would have run Saturn rings these clowns as a salesman of the gospel.\n \n \n\n\n\n well so co uld MAlcolm\, so could medgar evers... the list is long. Your speaking of one man when a large group of black people in the time MLK jr lived warran ted as much or more than hime\, and  had as much or greater opportunity f or personal financial betterment. \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n 1/18/2025\n\n\n\n C ITATION\n\n\n\n https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/12293-mlk-jr-day-is-on-the-19th -in-2026/#findComment-79450\n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n osted just now\n\n\n\n @Pr ofD\n\n\n\n   17 hours ago\, ProfD said:\n\n\n\n Nowhere have I writte n that Dr. MLK Jr. was Superman. Of course\, he was the spokesman for a mo vement.\n\n\n\n your correct\, but he wasn't the leader\, but a leader\, a nd the spokesman role was given to him by others. \n\n\n\n   17 hours a go\, ProfD said:\n\n\n\n Because Dr. MLK Jr. was not a Supreme Being\, t here's nothing he could have done about those realities. \n\n\n\n exactly \, but you presented a level of idolization to MLK jr that warrants anyone to state a less idolized opinion\, which I did.\n\n  \n\n\n\n I quote yo u\, I \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n   On 1/15/2026 at 4:54 PM\, ProfD said:\n\n \n\n I dare not criticize Dr. MLK Jr.s non-violent approach\n\n\n\n  \n \n\n\n   On 1/15/2026 at 4:54 PM\, ProfD said:\n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n FBA/ AfroAmericans and ALL Black people on the planet  owe a huge debt of grat itude to him. \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n   17 hours ago\, ProfD said:\n\n\n\ n Again\, in hindsight it's easy to claim Dr. MLK Jr.'s efforts \"proved f ailures\". Civil Rights and affirmative action doesn't happen without his influence and effort. \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n I also mentioned oth er leaders\, it is interesting that you focus on the mentioning of mlk jr when i mentioned leaders before or after him with the same failures\, and said leaders before mlk jr were needed for the black collegiate movement/n aacp /garveyites and et cetera which was mandatory in the early anti jim c row era for the later laws to come into being. \n\n\n\n   17 hours ago \, ProfD said:\n\n\n\n Dr. MLK Jr.'s impact must have been significant f rom the number of schools\, streets and other institutions named after him .\n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n again\, that is media\, not truth. The movement by Bl ack people made the impact\, white owned media + the black church created the myth of mlkjr as THE leader when he wasn't\, he was a leader\, among m any\, but he was the only leader that fit everything white media or the bl ack church needed. And as in all the schools named after george washington who was a leader not THE leader of the colonies freeing from the english empire. \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n   17 hours ago\, ProfD said:\n\n\n\n ther e's nothing anyone can say or do that will ever make me question or minimi ze the impact Dr. MLK Jr. had on ALL Black people up to present and future .\n\n\n\n so mlk jr is beyond questioning ? i question all peoples. I don' t have an idolization of anyone in that way\, though i wonder how many bla ck people similarly idolize bond. And\, I never minimize the impact of the movement of Black people. It is interesting you focus so much on mlkjr. h iding behind the theme of this post your own idoltry. which I oppose. \n\ n\n\n  \n\n\n\n @Pioneer1\n\n\n\n   11 hours ago\, Pioneer1 said:\n\n \n\n I know very few human beings who are so far \"above\" even a philosop hical critique.\n\n\n\n no human being is\, because we are human being. Bu t the problem is that\, some people unfortunately\, think negative judgeme nt lessens the value of another\, or questioning another lessers said anot hers role. \n\n\n\n It is very jesus /pope/schrumpft like\, that thinking .\n\n\n\n   11 hours ago\, Pioneer1 said:\n\n\n\n it seems he should h ave known how possible or impossible it would be for Black people to get a long with these people.\n\n\n\n well\, remember\, black people when the us a was started still were able to get along\, not all black people were ens laved. I am not suggesting\, that anyone black should assume a peaceful li fe aside whites in the usa\, but I Can see a black person coming to the co nclusion that a peaceful coexistence can be a goal. Nothing is easy\, but I can comprehend it. Would I have chosen it? no\, but neither did nat turn er\, or assata shakur... so\, I don't mind some black leaders having that path.\n\n\n\n   11 hours ago\, Pioneer1 said:\n\n\n\n Federal law stil l always \"trumps\" (no pun intended) states' laws.\n\n\n\n Federal law su persedes state law like state law supersedes local law.\n\n\n\n right but this is why the congress is the only branch of government that can make la w. the congress  is born from the states. it isn't executive. even though schrumpft is part of a change started since abraham lincoln\n\n\n\n   1 1 hours ago\, Pioneer1 said:\n\n\n\n Because there was no threat to Afro American culture to justify them doing so.\n\n\n\n hmmm \n\n\n\n I get yo ur demographic position. but since the black populace was minoirty to the white\, even before the 1900s immigrant waves\, wasn't the heritage or cul ture of DOSers always in need of attention. Maybe not danger\, but I don't think the black church built up what needed to be carried/heritage\, or t ended what needed to be grown/culture. It is interesting that sinners come s out one year before the usa's 250 year anniversary\, one of the messages in the movie is the black churches hindrance. \n\n\n\n The blues players father\, is a hater.  a knocker. he doesn't want to help\, he wants to k nock. \n\n\n\n We all know how many black churches criminalized black peo ple who didn't sing gods music\, before 1940\, as well as after. \n\n\n\n Your right\, their wasn't competition among minoirty quantities in the po pulace  BUT why did the black church not try to bridge booker t and wed d ubois/garvey and dubois/ garvey and booker t? why did the black church tre at blues and jazz musicians so negatively? why did the black church treat hustlers so negatively?\n\n\n\n the my way highway vibe of black churches before the immigrant waves came\, i argue was very detrimental to the larg er populace later. yes\, cheap hindsight but it is clear. And i argue with their role\, no excuse existed\, no excuse. \n\n\n\n   11 hours ago\,  Pioneer1 said:\n\n\n\n Capitalists AND Dictators by controlling the wor kers\, not giving them a real say-so\, and enjoying the fruits of the labo r of the masses.\n\n\n\n your wrong about china. China has an engaged bure aucracy. People vote\, I argue china has more involvement of its people in its government than the usa does or a western european country does\, not just in raws numbers but in percentage. Remember the current chinese gove rnment is a creature of the 19000s\, and one born from being enslaved to t he usa/japan/western union. Thsoe three groups taught china to dislike the media dysfunction of government. countries that have big songs and big fl ags that hide the ugliest realities. the usa calls itself the land of free dom\, while in truth has only destroyed many peoples. the usa is a white e uropean country trying to sell itself as it isn't. China is proud to be a chinese country\, who at least is more honest to the immigrant than the us a by a mile. I know your a statian\, Pioneer\, you have a pride about the usa from the black history that supported it. And china as a white asian c ountry\, is an enemy of the usa\, although why wouldn't china be when the usa at one time owned a piece of china. \n\n\n\n North korea is a monarch y. It isn't like china. And\, because I don't find any government system s inful I will say\, North Korea's has two problem. \n\n\n\n 1st is the usa \, who has put north korea\, like iran \, like cuba\, under a severe strai n on all fronts. The historically funny thing is iran + cuba+ north korea have one thing in common\, they each insulted the usa\, neither actually e ver committed a crime to the usa while the usa committed crimes to them. t he usa invaded cuba using cuban traitors and failed\, the usa's murdering europhile puppet in iran failed\, and the usa invaded korea when north kor ea had the whole peninsula but north korea survived. \n\n\n\n After 9/11 the usa talked about being invaded and axis of evil\, and lied about afgha nistan or iraq\, but\, based on the reaction the usa had to 9/11\, cuba+ir an+north korea have the right to bomb the usa. \n\n\n\n 2nd\, the kim jon g clan have to embrace a simple truth\, the usa took their fate\, absent u sa involvement all of korea is led by the kim jong clan\, but the usa as a country of power meddled. tehe kim jong clan have to find a way to end th e demilitarize zone. I know no koreans made the zone but that is the chall enge. \n\n\n\n   11 hours ago\, Pioneer1 said:\n\n\n\n So next time m e and Troy get into a fight over the existence of multiple races\, I expec t you to answer the call and pull up to the scene for some back-up....LOL\ n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n   10 hours ago\, Pioneer1 said:\n\n\n\n They should have started 30 or 40 years ago by vehently going after everybody....incl uding other Black people...who were openly promoting what once were whispe red rumors of his womanizing and cheating on Coretta.\n\n\n\n we all know the truth\, the panthers/naacp/baptist preachers/drug dealers\, the fbi an d cia had agents everywhere. in all organizations including white ones. \ n\n\n\n I have always asked that the old files be made public. I think all of humanity could use every single agent of the 1900s whether dead or ali ve exposed. cause I think that would explain a lot but....\n\n\n\n  \n\n\ n\n @aka Contrarian\n\n\n\n   7 hours ago\, aka Contrarian said:\n\n\n \n that his people laughed at Malcom\n\n\n\n I said my forebears saw black people laughing at Malcolm\, not that my forebears laughed.  But yes\, m any people in harlem laughed at malcolm in the street. And your surprise s hows the strength of media. media has created a myth of malcolm + mlk jr t hat is false. Two great leaders\, more alike than different. each wanting integration or peace. Both eloquent speakers. their only true difference a s leaders was mlk jr \, from the christian baptist heritage\, speaks throu gh hope\, while malcolm learned from his father\, not elijah muhammed but his father\, to speak through truth. white people in the usa historically hate any black person who speaks through truth far more than any other bla ck person. the native american is irrelevant\, the white american is a tru e sinner\, black dosers are cowards\, immigrant americans are foolish trai tors. IT doesn't mean each has to be that way forever\, or is that way in every single individual\, but it is the majority truth. \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n \n   8 hours ago\, aka Contrarian said:\n\n\n\n militant counterpart\n \n\n\n how do you define militancy? cause I have never seen malcolm as mil itant? I think he was a garveyite like his father\, I think he did believe in self defense which his father+ mother needed\, but so did mlk jr? is e xhibiting self defense a sign of militancy? or is not saying things to mak e others comfortable \, militancy? \n\n\n\n when I think black militancy\ , I think of nat turner/jean jacques dessalines/the black loyalists/the qu ilombos in south america/ann zhinga against the portuguese. I don't think of malcolm or the panthers. \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n 1/18/2026\n\n\n\n  \n\n\ n\n CITATION\n\n\n\n https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/12293-mlk-jr-day-is-on-the -19th-in-2026/#findComment-79464\n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n @aka Contrarian\n\n\n\ n   1 hour ago\, aka Contrarian said:\n\n\n\n you disagreed with my ca lling Malcom X \"militant\" and asked what I consider \"militant\". \n\n\ n\n Malcom was famous for the  response he'd give when questioned about h ow he'd combat white aggression. \"By any means necessary\,\" was his ad ament response. And the Black Muslim quasi-military Fruit of Islam group p resented the impression of being his back-up. This is a militant stance t hat  didn't align with King's passive resistance philosophy which is why I and a lot of others considered Malcom militant. He talked tough.\n\n\n\n Wasn't Malcolm's father murdered by whites? around your neck of the usa i n the midwest? He didn't talk tough\, he talked from experience. The exper ience of a Black child who witnessed his nonviolent preacher father be mur dered by whites for the crime of wanting black ownership and preaching to other black people to leave the usa if they are unhappy. A black child who witnessed his yella\, black mother\, be drove into a living prison by whi te power.  MLK jr's father was never murdered by whites even though Gerog ia is full of violent whites. MLK jr's mother was never drove into a livin g prison even though the bureaucracy of georgia has done so to many black women. \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n   1 hour ago\, aka Contrarian said:\n\n\n\ n And I disagree with your implication that Malcom was in agreement with M LK on integration. He wasn't entirely opposed to white assistance but he w as iinitially a black separatist advocate until he broke ranks with Elijah Muhammad later on. \n\n\n\n Malcolm was born from parents who were exodu sters or garveyites or preacher folk? right? wasn't that malcolm's guidanc e as a youth. Exodusters aren't militant or segregated. yes\, they want se perate places in the usa for black people \, but they never advocated viol ence except in self defense. And isn't self defense eternally warranted by black people based on white actions? What year have whites not harmed a b lack person and gotten away with it in the usa? \n\n\n\n I argue MAlcolm \, pre during or post elijah muhammed \, always embraced that some black f olk need to leave white countries all together in a true segregation/garve y\, some black folk need to have their own seperate places in a white coun try/exodusters \, but malcolm learned that some black folk can live amongs t whites/integrated as in slavery or jim crow or now\, but that doesn't me an they should not have the protection his parents didn't have. \n\n\n\n   1 hour ago\, aka Contrarian said:\n\n\n\n And it should also be not ed that during the MLK and Malcom era\, TV talk shows were all the rage. T hese 2 black spokesmen were popular guest panalists on these airings and w hat came out of their mouths during these discussions was what defined the m. They made their positions clear on live TV and were very articulate in doing so.\n\n\n\n Malcolm never wanted to be a cult leader\, which is what elijah muhammed plus the other pastors of the nation of islam wanted by t heir actions. They used malcolm\, the same way the southern black christia n pastors\, who were also cult leaders\,  used mlk jr as a front man for their activities. as stokely carmichael said\, can you imagine a black bap tist preacher not accepting a cadillac. \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n   1 hour a go\, aka Contrarian said:\n\n\n\n But their influence lives on and black Americans owe them a debt of gratitude.\n\n\n\n 100% true and I must add We black people in the usa and arguably all blacks in all humanity owe the whole movement of Black empowerment from the era of enslavement plus the era of jim crow \, a debt of gratitude. And I hope we can learn from MLK j r teachings as well as Malcolms and many others. \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n MAlc olm for me teaches a valuable lesson about early efficiency\, don't let yo ur idol ruin your plan. For me\, MAlcolm had the best leadership skills am ong all black leaders in the usa when he lived\, but he had one flaw he ne ver recovered from\, he allowed his idolization for an older black leader\ , in his case elijah muhammed \, to cloud or manipulate his larger plannin g. That was a mistake. \n\n\n\n MLK jr for me teaches a  valuable lesson in handling handlers\, \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n two questions AkaContrarian  with a setup and amendment\, and @ProfD + @Pioneer1  I ponder your th oughts to the three elements as well. \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n Here is the set up\n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n when Sean Bell's father was asked in media what he f elt\, after his son was murdered by law enforcement in the new york city t hrough forty one bullet shots\, sean bell's father said he wanted the law enforcers dead. And al sharpton\, the white media\, the lawyers for the be ll family\, didn't have him around for anything afterward... \n\n\n\n It is clear the form of passive resisitance many blacks in the usa adhere to seems a complete form\, that doesn't accept violence in weapons or closed fists but also in discourse. \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n my questions\, \n\n\n\n 1) has that interpretation of passive resistance broken up many black cla ns/homes? \n\n\n\n 2) do black people who adhere to passive resisitance c riminalize plus illegalize [both not just one\, meaning make a return of v iolence criminal while also have an unwritten black legal code that illega lizes black people who don't adhere by excommunication in various ways] ac tions by black people or black people themselves who don't adhere?\n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n in amendment\, \n\n\n\n I think of two things. 1. amiri barak a who said the bussers were crazy getting ice cream and assaulted while do ing nothing. 2. a black woman in texas\, a matriarch\, who told two nephew s to leave texas after whites had assaulted their home and they wanted to act violently in return. \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n I realize now\, the language I need to have. And thank you three Contrarian/pioneer/profd for getting me to this place.  When contrarian you said passive resistance\, it made me realize to what extremes you refer to. \n\n\n\n The words/phrase resis tance or nonviolence or passive or militant or violent keep getting used.  \n\n\n\n But the issue here is the faith in the rule of law. Not the \"r ule of law\" but \" faith in the rule of law\" as opposed to \"function ba sed on the life of black people\"\n\n\n\n I see the lines\n\n\n\n  \n\n\n \n from crispus attics\, the black people who embraced whites like george washington before during or after 1776 in the enslavement era + Frederick Douglass\,  the black people who fought for the union or confederacy +MLK jr\, the black people who nonviolently in all ways fought for black empow erment in the later years of jim crow era\, Barrack Obama\, the black peop le in the age of the rainbow\, a set of black people have a \"faith in the rule of law\" such that even if the law is designed against black people\ , even if the law allows non blacks to terrorize black people\, even if th e law can't protect blacks from being terrorized by non blacks\, each of s aid groups actions show a faith that the legal system\, the law\, in its p rocesses and eventual result is satisfactory\, even if the law fails durin g their lifetime to change for the better. They are willing to die in the courtroom\, even as tulsa burns and black pregnant women are being hung.  \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n In parallel\, \n\n\n\n from the black loyalists\, bla ck people who committed to vendetta against the whites of the colonies\, w hite people of england didn't enslave blacks in the colonies\, it was whit e colonist and colonialist before during or after 1776   in the enslavem ent era+ Nat Turner or Exodusters\, the black people who retaliated when t he law failed \, wanted self defense\, not isolation+ Malcolm who never fe lt black people should allow or invite harm from others which faith demand s\,  when the law didn't protect black people from white terror in the ji m crow era\, to Assata Shakur and the many blacks later who have left the usa in the age of the rainbow\, a set of black people have a \"function ba sed on the life of black people\" such that the historical facts of the la w working against black people\, law allowing non blacks to terrorize blac k people\, law not protecting blacks from being terrorized by blacks\, pro ve to said folks a need/demand/function to act outside the law which can n ot be denied for a truly free black peoples whether they have white neighb ors or not\, even if they know they are disadvantaged\, maybe inevitably\, or if nonlegal actions fail during their lifetime for the better. They ar e willing to die outside the courttoom\, even if non black power  or blac k allegiances to the courtrom give advantages. \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n I pond er if a bridge can be made between faith or function?\n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n 0 1/19/2026\n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n CItation\n\n\n\n https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/1 2293-mlk-jr-day-is-on-the-19th-in-2026/#findComment-79482\n\n\n\n Posted  just now\n\n\n\n @aka Contrarian \n\n\n\n   \n\n\n\n \n On 1/18/2026 a t 10:06 PM\, aka Contrarian said:\n \n\n \n \n First of all\, nothing y ou said changed my mind about referring to Malcom as \"militant\". In fact \, you just provided a lot of reasons to justify his being militant\, a pe rfectly good word which you apparently consider a stigma. \n \n\n \n  \n \n\n \n  \n \n\n \n As for your other questions. I agree wi th ProfD on the first two and disagree with him on the  3rd.\n \n \n\n\n \n  \n\n\n\n I am not trying to change your mind \,  I am trying to comp rehend from your point of view where militancy ends or begins with black p eople in the usa. \n\n\n\n I assume\, but you haven't been exact\, that a black person in the usa is militant anytime they have any action\, verbal or non verbal that is aggressive\, regardless of situation. \n\n\n\n If I comprehend you correctly\, then Sean Bell's father is militant for speak ing ill to those who murdered his son. Protestors who throw bottles in rea ction to being hosed or shot at are militant. I comprehend fully that Malc olm is militant from your point of view based on how i assume you define m ilitancy\, but based on your definition\, I assume\, you categorize many b lack people as militant. \n\n\n\n I don't view malcolm\,sean bell's fathe r\, protestors reacting to violent attack as militant. To me\, self defens e does not suggest militancy. Self defense isn't nonviolent\, but it isn't militant\, to me. \n\n\n\n But I want to comprehend your thinking better . \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n As for the first question\, and I speak to @ProfD  \n\n\n\n I wish I knew with the population of descended of enslaved  in the past or today how many in our homes have or have not schismed on the relationship on how to relate to whites\, before the usa or after the usa\ , as the usa doesn't really matter in this issue. This issue is really abo ut the white colonialist and their descendants and the black enslaved and their descendants. \n\n\n\n I wish I knew. IT would be very revealing. Ca use\, even if it is 40% or 30% that is a lot. Maybe it is 5% \, tiny. I wo nder when 1865 hit how was it? and it yields another question in my mind\, why doesn't this question come up more? Every single black person knows p ersonally\, offline a spectrum of black people who relate differently to w hites. Black comedians have a whole mountain of jokes on this topic. So wh y is it\, black churches\, black organizations\, rarely speak on this? it isn't a secret. I have many questions and no way to get answers. \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n The second question is in series to the first. I wish I knew t he truth. I guess more so \, you guys guess less\, but what is the truth? No one will know sadly\, unless someone has a time machine and a huge ledg er. \n\n\n\n And of course\, the problem is in the wording\, what defines a schism in the home? what defines criminalization or unwritten illegaliz ation? the details or definitions even with the same information can provi de various results...\n\n\n\n I don't know. I wish I knew \, cause it matt ers. I argue how black people relate to white people in the usa \, in blac k peoples own communal sphere\, is a big thing. And shouldn't be some priv ate issue or some shrugged issue because it is really an all black affair. Hell\, even Tyler perry has mentioned this issue a lot in his work. \n\n \n\n  \n\n\n\n As to the third\, at least on the issue of faith to rule o f law versus function based on black history\, a schism exist between you\ , aka contrarian and profd as members of aalbc\n\n\n\n And for me\, the is sue isn't about right or wrong but how important these stances are in the larger scheme of things.\n\n\n\n Black people who believe in faith in the rule of law\, are willing to be harmed and abused by whites\, rather than break the law. That is a big stance in our populace\, arguably globally. C ause black people globally are abused by non blacks. so black people anywh ere in humanity who are willing to be abused rather than break the law\, c an never relate to white people the same way as black people who function for self defense or revenge or vendetta [three different things but all ar e violent] based on black history .\n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n And as you both kno w I think of what to do tomorrow? \n\n\n\n I don't know how to bridge tha t issue.  I never forget telling a friend of mine. If I was a pastor of a church and a white man entered the church I manage\, I would told that wh ite man to leave immediately\, and go to st patricks church down the stree t\, this is a black church. in the usa\, White people historically or mode rnly can not be trusted intermingling with blacks. whites will 99% of the time harm blacks. the quantity of events where whites harmed blacks proves this more than anything. Not 100% no\, not 100% but 99% yeah. Look at bla ck towns today\, black farms today\, black regions in white cities today? No\, do whites kill blacks and brand blacks today? no\, but harm still? ma ny times yes. \n\n\n\n Obama sang amazing grace for that church that whit e man murdered people in. And while I know that church is open to all phen otypes\, that nonviolent openness as closing based on phenotype is a form of violence based on how nonviolence is implemented by many\, that nonviol ent position is what got black people killed. and\, the law will not heal that\, the law didn't protect those people.  \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n So how can a movement exist among black people in the usa\, holistically in popul ace\, with such a divide of way of life? I argue near impossible. The usa is full of white peoples\, white people [white europeans/white asians/whit e latinos/white muslims/white women/white jews combined are the majority] compared to blacks. so\, any plan has to consider how white people fit. an d ... \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n 1/19/2026\n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n Citation\n\n\n\n h ttps://aalbc.com/tc/topic/12293-mlk-jr-day-is-on-the-19th-in-2026/#findCom ment-79486\n\n\n\n @aka Contrarian \n\n\n\n   37 minutes ago\, aka Con trarian said:\n\n\n\n Just go with your assumptions. Why do I have to jus tify my sentiments to you?\n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n All of this is hypothetical . \n\n\n\n Assumptions are worthless\, comprehension has value and if I d on't comprehend someone else I ask them\, beginning with I don't know\, wh ich is wisdom. \n\n\n\n Comprehension has nothing to do with justificatio n\, a thing of justice\, meaning a thing determining right or wrong. I am not thinking in terms of right or wrong. I am not asking questions of you to be right or wrong\, but to comprehend. Now you may not want me to compr ehend you or may think another comprehending you is unimportant\, but I do n't live like that so I ask\, with no demands of an answer. But I will con tinue to ask anyone to comprehend more.\n\n\n\n all of this is under an id ea\, maybe\, the discourse in this post is about how black people relay to each other\, and it is proof\, at the least\, that black people in 2026 h ave a lot we don't comprehend about each other and more importantly\, the lack of comprehension makes collective action inevitably faulty. \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n 1/19/2026\n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n Citation\n\n\n\n https://aalbc.co m/tc/topic/12293-mlk-jr-day-is-on-the-19th-in-2026/#findComment-79495\n\n\ n\n  \n\n\n\n ed just now\n\n\n\n @aka Contrarian \n\n\n\n   2 hours ago\, aka Contrarian said:\n\n\n\n You are much too subjective. It's alw ays about you and your compulsion to be omniscient\, and ultimately omnipo tent.  You obviously want to solve all the problems of the world. \n\n\n \n  Good luck with that goal.\n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n no I don't want to solve all the problems in the world.\n\n\n\n first\, because some problems can' t be solved\, they have to be lived through. They have to be given their t ime\, even in full gruesomeness. I learned that a relative long time ago.  \n\n\n\n second\, because I know exactly what I want\, and comprehend th e prosequences plus consequences of any action.  I was fortunate enough t o have the time and space to learn that\, and what I want isn't what you s ay I want.\n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n I don't want to know all\, oomiscient\, or h ave all power\, omnipotent. first\, because either is impossible. To know all you have to know not merely about all today\, but all yesterdays and a ll tomorrows... for any finite being\, that is impossible. And you can nev er have all the power unless you can become all\, and no finite being can become all. My rearing by my parents taught me that as a child.  \n\n\n\ n  \n\n\n\n I do enjoy communicating and learning through communication. And I was taught as a child to always expand my knowledge as much as I can . Limiting the value of nothing. \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n Thank you for the lu ck:) \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n 1/20/2026\n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n END OF MULTILOG FOR 2026 \n\n\n\n At the end of the multilog for 2026\, discussing MLK jr an d non violence\, I thought about nonviolence effectiveness and came to a r ealization. The nonviolent movements problem isn't the absence of violence . The nonviolent movements problem is inability of admitting what is neede d to get results. \n\n\n\n The nonviolent movement says all acts are viol ence: verbal/tactile/financial/explosive or other are not permitted as act ions. But the question is how can one be effective nonviolently. Many sugg est turn the other cheek but if someone raped your sister\, killed your fa ther\, slapped you with metal knuckles. You turning the other cheek doesn' t generate punishment to the abuser. You turning the other cheek allows th e abuser to get away with abusing. \n\n\n\n And I thought about various v iolent actions:  a black girl flung to the ground by a law enforcer\, the mountain of domestic violence cases that the new york police department d oesn't try to solve but allows to stack\, my own personal interactions wit h law enforcement trying to intimidate or approaching violently to me abse nt any provocation from me. \n\n\n\n And I realized\, the NAACP probably never took to court even one percent of the cases of white violence[from t errorism to spitting] against black people in the united states of america . Alice \, the black woman enslaved in the 1960s means\, the number of cri mes by whites to blacks in the 1800s was astronomical. \n\n\n\n Nothing c an be done about the past\, but arguably half of the white populace in the usa and a higher percentage in the south\, never faced any legal proceedi ngs for their violence. \n\n\n\n And that impotency in results is the wea kness in nonviolent philosophical supporters. \n\n\n\n Responding by viol ence can come in many forms but responding nonviolently can only occur thr ough the court of law. But\, the usa will require millions of lawyers acti ng pro bono\, for good or absent pay\, to even get near 25% of the cases o f white violence to blacks. \n\n\n\n But now I know what to tell nonviole nt adherents. Because no idea is evil or good\, the only issue is implemen tation. MLK jr plus others felt nonviolence could change the usa for the b etter through changing laws. But I realize the flaw in that thinking. Chan ging laws doesn't change habits. Doesn't impose the rule of law in regions . \n\n\n\n The civil rights act of 1963 hasn't protected one black person from white violence. But if fifty percent or above of incidents between n onblack violent actors to black people in the USA was sent to court\, I ca n't be certain the usa will be better quickly\, but I am certain it is the only way\, nonviolence can lead to betterment. Fiscal capitalism will fai l black folk cause having money doesn't deter white violence\, ask tulsa. Being law abiding will fail black folk cause abiding by the law doesn't pr otect you from those who do not\, ask trayvon martin or sean bell or abner luima or many others. Turning the other cheek will fail black people beca use the person who needs to turn the other cheek is the white abuser/ensla ver/terrorist.\n\n\n\n The court room is the only place that will aid blac k people because the cost from verdicts in favor of blacks \, whether crim inal or civil\, allows white terrorist/enslavers/abusers to pay nonviolent ly. But it has to be at an unprecedented level in the usa. I read somewher e that the NYPD's criminal behavior costs New York City hundreds of millio ns of dollars. If I combine the reality of most cases of white abuse to bl acks not making the courtroom and the cost of verdicts in black favor bein g quite expensive to the government\, I see that taking white violent beha vior to court is the only way Black nonviolent people can plan to get resu lts from their philosophy\, in the usa. \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n 1/23/2026\n\n \n\n  \n\n\n\n Citation\n\n\n\n https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/12293-mlk-jr-d ay-is-on-the-19th-in-2026/#findComment-79554\n\n\n\n osted just now\n\n\n \n @Troy \n\n\n\n   3 hours ago\, Troy said:\n\n\n\n Race is purely a n arbitrary social construct with no basis in genetics.\n\n\n\n I will ch ange the adjective to inevitable. but even enough:)\n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n 1/2 3/2026\n\n\n\n Citation\n\n\n\n https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/12293-mlk-jr-da y-is-on-the-19th-in-2026/#findComment-79567\n\n\n\n osted just now\n\n\n\ n @Delano \n\n\n\n Before you can ask if one is free you must define free dom. \n\n\n\n So\, I ask you to define freedom and then I can easily answ er your question are Blacks\, whether descended of enslaved or not\, free.  \n\n\n\n But\, if anyone answer a question of freedom absent defining fr eedom first it will only give an uneven answer. \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n 1/23/ 2026\n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n Citation\n\n\n\n https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/12293- mlk-jr-day-is-on-the-19th-in-2026/#findComment-79577\n\n\n\n osted just n ow\n\n\n\n @Delano\n\n\n\n   6 minutes ago\, Delano said:\n\n\n\n In e very conversation words generally have two meanings\, the dictionary and t he personal. Define it however you wish. @richardmurray\n\n\n\n You didn' t ask me the meaning of freedom. YOu asked me\n\n\n\n   On 1/23/2026 at 4:48 AM\, Delano said:\n\n\n\n Would you say US Blacks are free?\n\n\n\n And I replied\, when you ask whether anyone or thing is free\, define wha t it means to be free in the question and then I or anyone else  can easi ly answer. I didn't ask you\, you asked me. But you want me to define word s that you used in your question however I wish. No\, that is bad communic ation. You tell me how you define freedom and then I will answer your ques tion... I seek to improve how i communicate always. \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n 1 /24/2026\n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n Citation\n\n\n\n https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/12 293-mlk-jr-day-is-on-the-19th-in-2026/#findComment-79617\n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\ n Posted just now\n\n\n\n @Delano \n\n\n\n how do you define freedom? \ n\n\n\n I will like to know. \n\n\n\n do you define freedom as thing for the living or a thing for the living plus the dead? \n\n\n\n no answer yo u make is wrong or right. \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n 1/26/2026\n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\ n Citation\n\n\n\n https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/12293-mlk-jr-day-is-on-the-1 9th-in-2026/page/2/#findComment-79744\n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n sted just now\n\ n\n\n @Delano @Pioneer1 @ProfD \n\n\n\n nice trilog on the question of the quality of freedom when one is dead. \n\n\n\n It is full of thought\, as death plus freedom don't have universal definition\, nor is communicat ion to the deceased proven to those who never experienced it or comprehend ed  robustly enough to those who have experienced it to clarify freedom's quality to those who are dead. The living can only guess how freedom \, h owever defined for someone living\, is to those who are dead\, which isn't the dead communicating their position. A guess isn't wrong\, but a guess isn't right\, itis a thesis. In this case three thesis\, well done. \n\n DTSTART;VALUE=DATE:20250115 DTEND;VALUE=DATE:20250122 RRULE:FREQ=YEARLY;INTERVAL=1 END:VEVENT END:VCALENDAR