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SUMMARY:Granting to Evil \, circa the film Sinners from Coogler
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DESCRIPTION:\n	someone asked\n\n\n\n	Sinners - Evil Cannot happen withou
	t your consent...true or false\n\n\n\n	 \n\n\n\n	 \n\n\n\n	the following
	 is my reply\n\n\n\n	Well... as a writer...\n\n\n\n	 \n\n\n\n	when I look
	 at Coogler + Peele\, the two most commercially successful black writer-di
	rectors in the last twenty years [commercial success defined as profit ear
	ned from films\, not creative assessment] both make one and done films\, n
	o sequels. Both don't go into deep public analysis of their films\, let au
	diences make assessment videos. Both tell stories dealing with the black e
	xperience having global implications but from a personal space. They remin
	d me of August wilson's plays where the outer world is present\, potent bu
	t the plays setting is a small black space.\n\n\n\n	Get Out- Black man tak
	ing white woman to see her clan.\n\n\n\n	US-Black family on a vacation to 
	country house\n\n\n\n	Nope- Black siblings on a ranch\n\n\n\n	Sinners- Bla
	ck blues joint in the south\n\n\n\n	 \n\n\n\n	Booth Peele + Coogler's mov
	ies have aspects of spirituality[ The sunken place\, the doppelganger\, th
	e horse whisperer\, Hoodoo] . Religion by name is a spirituality tied to a
	  book. Spirituality is anything involving the spirit of a person \, rega
	rdless of whether that involvement is technological [ psychological tools\
	, cloning]\, a skill[communicating to nonhumans\, horses or aliens] \, a s
	pecific tradition passed down[ hoodoo] \n\n\n\n	 \n\n\n\n	When I think 
	of \n\n\n\n	Within our gates from oscar micheaux [ written and directed]\
	n\n\n\n	blood of jesus from spencer williams [ written and directed] \n\n
	\n\n	Ceddo + Emitai from Ousmane Sembene [ written and directed] \n\n\n\n
		Daughters of the Dust from julie dash [ written and directed] \n\n\n\n	T
	he reality is most Black writer-directors tend to make historical fictions
	 or historical dramas [Malcolm/Boyz in the hood/Black girl/Superfly/dead p
	residents/down in the delta(I can't believe maya angelou didn't edit or ma
	nipulate it) or similar]. But the works of Peele + Coogler follow the lea
	st traveled road of said list of artist using worlds with fantasy elements
	.[ may it be science fiction or spiritual heritage] And that harkens back 
	to the classic Black descended of enslaved storytelling or heritages from 
	before the war between the states\, championed by Zora Neale Hurston. \n\
	n\n\n	 \n\n\n\n	Now to answer the question you asked  \"Evil Cannot happ
	en without your consent\" in the context of the film sinners. \n\n\n\n	We
	ll\, one thing \, we don't know how the white vampires were made? The film
	 doesn't go into in great detail nor does it need to. All we know is the l
	ead white vampire is old\, their are rules. But as the black twins prove\,
	 the goodness of ones actions is not bounded to humanity. Vampires can be 
	good as his twin proves at the end\, if you define goodness by non verbal 
	actions and not race[whether race is defined as a categorization or rankin
	g or order based on religion/language/gender/blood lineage/phenotype or ap
	pearance/age/philosophical adherence/ or other determinant].  To restate 
	Vampires are not inherently evil in the film\, thus their entry into a pla
	ce can not be deemed welcoming evil\,  if you take the whole story into a
	ccount. In parallel\, in the film humans are not inherently good. And the 
	KKK are not coming with the consent of the juke joint.  \n\n\n\n	 \n\n\
	n\n	So from my point of view\,  in the film itself\,  your question is n
	ot answered.\n\n\n\n	And what is the contrapositive to your question. Good
	 can happen with your consent? Well define good. Are humans good while vam
	pires evil? is goodness defined by non verbal action. but can't one action
	 be deemed good or evil based on its specifics. \n\n\n\n	OR about the opp
	osite. Good cannot happen without your consent? again define good \n\n\n\
	n	and in my view Coogler isn't offering viewpoints but not being ironclad 
	in opinions. Steinfeld some say is yella\, some say is white\, by one drop
	 is black\, but their is a long heritage of blacks in the usa who are visi
	bly white ala Charles W. Chesnutt. \n\n\n\n	 \n\n\n\n	Away from writing.
	...\n\n\n\n	Your posiiton as a black christian\, i find thought provoking.
	 I am not christian\, but my views on black christianity are various. If I
	 have one wish for black christians\, it is for black christians to accept
	 the many branches of black christianity\, which I don't think black chris
	tians tend to do. But to your question\, Evil Cannot happen without your c
	onsent\,  I think based on your definitions\, the answer is yes. \n\n\n\
	n	 \n\n\n\n	For me\, away from writing\, the first question for me is alw
	ays elements in the question. What is good? what is evil? what is consent?
	 \n\n\n\n	I comprehend positivity or negativity. I know what can be mostl
	y positive or mostly negative\, but nothing in my mind is all negative or 
	all positive. and for me what people refer to as good is a supposed all po
	sitive\, or evil is a supposed all negative. And I prefer to use the word 
	grant over consent. What is granted is complicated. Sometimes one is grant
	ing things absent their knowledge or awareness\, the raising of children p
	roves this. \n\n\n\n	Philosophically or spiritually\, I  can only answer
	 your question\,   Evil Cannot happen without your consent\, once it is 
	restructured with more definition to what is evil or what is consent.\n\n\
	n\n	If you ask me\, Vampires cannot interact to non vampires absent non va
	mpirical grant? I will say no because Vampires I define as any creature th
	at absorbs leechlike from another. Do the gnomes who suck souls require gr
	ants? Do the succubi require grants? I don't think so to either. Some type
	s of Vampires do but not all. \n\n\n\n	If you ask me\, those with negativ
	e intent cannot happen absent anothers grant? I will say not usually. Nega
	tive intent can be from many and rarely requires the targets permission. 
	\n\n\n\n	If you ask me\, can human blood craving Vampires enter the home o
	f others absent a grant? I say both. historically from ancient times\, som
	e of said vampires have been blockaded from entering the homes of others \
	, not all but some\, arguably many. \n\n\n\n	 \n\n\n\n	URL\n\n\n\n	https
	://aalbc.com/tc/topic/11705-sinners-evil-cannot-happen-without-your-consen
	ttrue-or-false/#findComment-74893\n\n\n\n	 \n\n
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