BEGIN:VCALENDAR VERSION:2.0 PRODID:-//InvisionCommunity Events 4.7.23//EN METHOD:PUBLISH CALSCALE:GREGORIAN REFRESH-INTERVAL:PT15M X-PUBLISHED-TTL:PT15M X-WR-CALNAME:RMWorkCalendar NAME:RMWorkCalendar BEGIN:VTIMEZONE TZID:Europe/London TZURL:http://tzurl.org/zoneinfo/Europe/London X-LIC-LOCATION:Europe/London BEGIN:DAYLIGHT TZOFFSETFROM:+0000 TZOFFSETTO:+0100 TZNAME:BST DTSTART:20250330T020000Z RRULE:FREQ=YEARLY;BYMONTH=3;BYDAY=-1SU END:DAYLIGHT BEGIN:STANDARD TZOFFSETFROM:+0100 TZOFFSETTO:+0000 TZNAME:GMT DTSTART:20251026T020000Z RRULE:FREQ=YEARLY;BYMONTH=10;BYDAY=-1SU END:STANDARD END:VTIMEZONE BEGIN:VEVENT SUMMARY:What is the heritage of the Black Descended of Enslaved and what cultures does it allow? DTSTAMP:20250802T175458Z SEQUENCE:0 UID:432-5-c3fe8195a3dde498d013e477e2142422@aalbc.com ORGANIZER;CN="richardmurray":troy@aalbc.com DESCRIPTION:\n My entire life I always heard a complaint from many black people whose forebears were enslaved to non blacks which sums up to \, al l or ninety nine percent of Black people need to do this one thing. And I thought and still think that absolute communalism\, that catholicism\, mis ses what our enslaved forebears went through or what gifts they gave us. T he heritage is one where we are not bound to any land\, the beautiful land s before the boats or the new lands after. The cultures from such a herita ge are not about preaching or proselytizing but allowing all of us to go o ur own way with love from each other\, no matter where any way leads. We B lack DOSers often miss said heritage or said relationship to each others c ultures. And  I comprehend the main reason. PEer pressure. When you live in the usa where most people talk about a forebear who made a journey of t heir free will to betterment. Being  descended of the indigenous who had everything taken or the black descended from enslaved who wanted no part o f it\, makes you honest outcast. So one can lie to themselves\, start rete lling their own ancestors stories to fit their peers. All of a sudden\, a Black person whose forebears\, in majority over ninety percent\, died over the ocean and whose forebears didn't die over the ocean and survived\, le ss than nine percent\,  spent from the fifteen hundreds to the nineteen h undred and seventies \, in majority over ninety percent\, surviving non bl ack terrorism/assault/murder with no protection places the presence of a v oting pro statian fought in world war two black grandma as more relevant t han the majority of their ancestors. Clearly imbalanced or inequal. But ma ndatory when you want to relate to your peers who have a whole generation of ancestors devoted to a better life in the usa. But I oppose peer pressu re. I argue it is better to be the only person in the college classroom wh ose forebears in majority hated the country the classroom is in. I say it is better to embrace the absence of allegiance warranted by ones forebears . Will people including other black people who have fallen for peer pressu re call you crazy/deluded/foolish? yes. But that is ok. The truth isn't me ant to be common or good or accepted. It is meant to be the truth.\n\n\n\n MY COMMENT\n\n\n\n The Exodusters tried that\, but had resistance from tw o groups. \n\n\n\n first whites from north /south/east/west who burned/ki lled/terrorized their towns out of existence\n\n\n\n second blacks who wer e more willing to suffer the challenges of integrating with whites in the south or north to make mixed towns than the challenge of segregating from whites[their plantations/their cities/their states in the south or north] to the territories of the west that would become states.   \n\n\n\n And it wasn't a divide and conquer scheme from that split blacks\, our enslave d forebears were never united in the first place\,  it was the problem bl ack people had before the usa or brasil or haiti or mexico was founded. Bl ack people whose forebears were enslaved by whites to the american contine nt original relationship to the americas doesn't provide a positive founda tion to the americas.  and that is a heritage black people of the america s have alone. But it is a heritage that yields to different cultures. \n\ n\n\n whereas whites (of europe or asia or elsewhere)have a unity based on the fact that over 90% of whites forebears came as willing people. So the ir is a collective idea of making a new home for yourself that binds into one culture. \n\n\n\n but black peoples enslaved forebears didn't want to come and most didn't\, the reality is\, black people enslaved forebears w ho made it to the american shoes are an extreme minority of their populace who was forced to leave africa. To restate\, 90% of our enslaved forebear s home is the atlantic ocean\, from those who died on the boats which is m ajority plus those who jumped off the boat which is another minority. So i f you me or anyone whose forebears were enslaved want to truly know where a majority of our forebears final residence was\, it isn't the usa or hait i or brazil \, it is the atlantic ocean. Become a citizen of the atlantic ocean. \n\n\n\n Now of course\, most humans can not become citizens of th e sea\, our bodies are meant to be on land BUT\, what this means is all pa ths we descended of enslaved choose beyond the atlantic ocean are merely a cceptable options. Black DOS want to be president? fine. go to live in afr ica?  fine. go to live in a black country in the caribbean ? fine. make a black city in the usa? fine. all are acceptible\, for the only true home of black dosers forebears is the atlantic ocean. so.... \n\n\n\n you stat ed what blacks should have concentrated on doing? \n\n\n\n Do you see? ou r forebears situation made us the only peoples in the american continent u nattached\, unbounded to these lands. This hurts our unity but also allows for our individualism. This is what I try to convey in this very forum\, that so many of you guys don't see. You each want a culture\, something gr own\, that is a  complete communalism that isn't justified based on our h eritage\, what we carry. \n\n\n\n Black DOSers are a people who have a un ique heritage in the usa or the greater americas or including asia. Our fo rebears mostly died before they could land on new shores\, so none of thes e new shores: brasil/usa/india are truly our homes. And sadly\, the mother land\, africa isn't our home because time never keeps a place the same. No where in africa is what our forebears were forced from. \n\n\n\n I end w ith something I tend to do in this forum\, ask black people why don't they find like minded black people and go their path.\n\n\n\n @umbrarchist wh y don't you live in a black town in the usa? you don't know anyone else bl ack willing? I can't believe that. You can't find anyone else black willin g? I can't believe that. \n\n\n\n I accept Black people whose forebears w ere enslaved are free to truly do what they want based on our forebears un fortune\, and though it has taken years\, I accept it as a positive. I tel l my friends offline who talk about being american so much\, why don't you run for office? why don't you become a member? \n\n\n\n I will repeat wh at I have said here many times. \n\n\n\n When I hear a black person offli ne say\, we need to kill the whites. I say to them\, find the other black people who also want to kill the non blacks and I hope you kill them all.   \n\n\n\n When I hear a black person offline say\, we need to embrace o ur citizenship to the usa . I say to them\, find the other blacks who want to embrace the citizenship of the usa\, and I hope you guys become presid ents/ governors /mayors/ and unite all the humans in the usa in a function al plus honest peace.\n\n\n\n When I hear a black person offline say\, we need to have our own towns in the usa. I say to them\, find all the other blacks who want to make their own towns in the usa\, and I hope you guys m ake new towns/cities/and eventually becomes states with a level of self su fficiency or prosperity better than any can imagine. \n\n\n\n When a blac k person says they want something support them\, if through nothing else b ut encouragement. You are not obliged to follow them or join them cause yo u may want other\, and that is a heritage of Blacks. But stop preaching\, stop debating\, stop arguing\, stop proselytizing. \n\n\n\n If a black pe rson is suggesting something push them to do it\, find other blacks that a re willing to do the same\, and if you are willing to do the same join in\ , but if you are not willing encourage. \n\n\n\n That is what we lacked c irca 1865 and now. We Black whose forebears were enslaved keep trying to b e other blacks or the non blacks. They are not us. A majority of our foreb ears who were enslaved are in one place\, the oceans. We have no ties from the past to any of these places\, so we are free to make them ourselves. Let's embrace that challenges\, but let us also enjoy the advantages of it . Our forebears will not mind us being happy \, no matter what we do. \n\ n\n\n THE URL\n\n\n\n https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/11752-whites-only-planned -communities/#findComment-75320\n\n\n\n  \n\n DTSTART;VALUE=DATE:20250802 RRULE:FREQ=YEARLY;INTERVAL=1 END:VEVENT END:VCALENDAR