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SUMMARY:The Two Statians
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ORGANIZER;CN="richardmurray":troy@aalbc.com
DESCRIPTION:\n	The government of the USA is at a time demanding change. 
	The population in it\, requires changes not merely in personel\, but in th
	e structure of the bureaucracy. In times like these for any government all
	 the agendas/powers/impotencies/attempts/failures to manipulate the system
	 will lead to a result most \, whether they like it or not\, will have to 
	live with. \n\n\n\n	 \n\n\n\n	MY COMMENT\n\n\n\n	 @aka Contrarian\n\n\n
	\n	\n		On 8/28/2025 at 1:27 AM\, aka Contrarian said:\n	\n\n	\n		\n			This
	 country needs to stop trying to rescue and preserve Democracy and just le
	t the red and blue states go their separate ways. The USA no longer exists
	.\n		\n	\n\n\n\n	Well\, historically the union you refer to arguably has n
	ever existed outside of the law. \n\n\n\n	The southern states only embrac
	ed independence from the british empire on condition that enslaving would 
	be untouched and thus they saw it as a way to make more money\, not for an
	y human equality or egalitarian reason \, so from the beginning the two bl
	ocks of states existed. The war between the states prove from cessation fr
	om the british empire to said war\, the two blocks existed. Jim crow's var
	iance\, from the end of the war between the states to the late 1970s prove
	 two blocks\, from the northern block where black people were herded into 
	cities that were then cut off from funding while whites went into northern
	 suburbs to the southern block where black towns were terrorized to never 
	be able to grow ever beyond an impoverished place\, forcing black people a
	way even leaving loved ones to die by lynch mobs. Now from the 1980s to 20
	25 you have a traditional southern white populace voting/planning to prese
	rve itself in the southern block while the traditional northern white popu
	lace has integrationed itself unlike any time in usa history which has pre
	sented a multiracial component to northern states life that makes it forei
	gn to southern states which are tribalized internally. \n\n\n\n	The probl
	em militaristically is the usa has the largest horde of nuclear weapons of
	 any government in modern humanity\, the largest military operation of any
	 government in modern humanity\, and with a split\, who controls those wea
	pons? and yes\, that matters and yes even if both blocks of states were fu
	lly engaged\, both will want that control. \n\n\n\n	Now\, legally\, one w
	ay exists for the usa to split. \n\n\n\n	So you have a set of states\, me
	ant to be self sufficient\, in a federation for collective defense with a 
	complete history of abrasive variance in heritage or culture. A military o
	peration that is the largest in the world and will be fought over if a bre
	ak up occurs. \n\n\n\n	 \n\n\n\n	What is the solution? \n\n\n\n	The dec
	laration of independence + the amendment process. The declaration of indep
	endence clearly states\, that any form of government is acceptable if the 
	populace want it. People in the usa talk of voting but the truth is\, the 
	declarations words show that a monarchy can return as long as the people t
	ruly support it. The rule of the people from the declaration isn't about v
	oting or elected office\, it is about a more abstract idea of people power
	 making any government style or form possible. To restate \, the declarati
	on of independence isn't saying a monarchy is undemocratic. it is saying a
	 monarchy the people don't want is undemocratic. \n\n\n\n	So\, a splittin
	g of a federation into two isn't against the spirit of the declaration of 
	independence. \n\n\n\n	And the amendment process literally allows for any
	 law to become instilled. An unchangeable law that breaks the usa into two
	 federations is completely possible by the amendment process. Congressiona
	l law or Supreme court rulings or executive orders all have limitations or
	 impotencies. but the amendment process alone adds to the constitution wit
	h no manipulation\, afterward or during. \n\n\n\n	 \n\n\n\n	So the quest
	ion is what is the wisest law to make an amendment to the us constitution 
	to you get the states to split ? \n\n\n\n	The military and the financial 
	power of the usa are the impediments. A white sheet wearing\, confederacy 
	cross tatoo having white man from an all white mississippi town will not a
	ccept the \"southern block\" not having the us military for protection or 
	the financial clout of the dollar operating in his life. A kente cloth wea
	ring lgbtq+  flag tattoo having  white transexual woman from San Francis
	co will not accept the \"northern block\" not having the us military for p
	rotection or the financial clout of the dillar operating in her life. \n\
	n\n\n	Now once you take those two things away \, it is doable. So what can
	 this hypothetical proposed amendment be?  \n\n\n\n	The federal governme
	nt will remain as a protector to two federations but modulated. The consti
	tution remains in tact\, but on freeze\, until the two federations unite.
	 \n\n\n\n	The congress is frozen\, abolished until reunion. The supreme c
	ourt is frozen and abolished until reunion. The us military remains in tac
	t protecting all the states\, but now the president has only the district 
	of columbia+ territories of the usa as places the president is privy to. N
	o camp david. All military bases in the fifty states need to be evacuated 
	by the us military to not show favoritism or influence. The territories of
	 the usa: guam/Puerto rico /virgin islands/various pacific ocean islands w
	ill have to be fitted for military bases. Guantanemo in cuba as well. The 
	federal reserve must remain. \n\n\n\n	Both the \"Northern Block\" + \"Sou
	thern Block\" have their own judiciary + their own congress. Some sort of 
	arrangement on federal funds [nitty gritty] will have to be decided. South
	ern block will not want population to decide and want some weight scale. W
	hile Northern Block will want a wider range of residents to allow for fede
	ral funds. \n\n\n\n	 \n\n\n\n	It is impossible to see\, but here is the 
	problem. The people of the USA are little peoples really. Always have been
	. The First Peoples aren't powerful enough. The DOSers aren't communal eno
	ugh. The Whites are not honest enough. The immigrants aren't realistic eno
	ugh. They all will reject anything like what I just said\, even though it 
	fits legal parameters\, is nonviolent\, and embraces giving the three hund
	red million plus strangers a little of the space\, most have always wanted
	 from some other. \n\n\n\n	 \n\n\n\n	The problem aka contrarian is the s
	ame thing that plagued the war between the states. General Beausejour tlre
	d Robert Lee or dreamy jefferson davis the simple engineering truth. Put u
	p a fence\, on the mason dixie\, focus the military south to mexico to get
	 a trade outlet and were done\, success the confederacy exist. But\, Lee \
	, an old white man who like so many white people in the usa\, remembers th
	e good old days for whites while doesn't consider how terrible said days w
	ere for others\, wanted to prove he could take the whole country\, a last 
	horah for the silver haired general\, very napoleonic\, who also acted as 
	stupidly in his european conquest. Jefferson Davis who clearly envied Linc
	oln wasn't happy with his slice of the pie and wanted to one up. But Lee +
	 Davis were not alone. The generals of the Union including Grant as well a
	s Abraham Lincoln were guilty as well. Lincoln could had ordered the same 
	line be drawn but didn't for pride. He goaded Lee and Davis \, knowing the
	m well\, and while some suggest incorrectly\, he preserved the union\, wha
	t he did was betray his role as the commander in chief. The role of the co
	mmander in chief is the safety of everyone in the usa. If Lincoln was seri
	ous about that safety he would had placed a fence\, since the north had ma
	ritime control very early on and thus all the sea trade advantage and embr
	aced the two state solution. The president's job is the safety of all peop
	le in the usa\, even if the people don't want to be together. All those de
	aths in the war between the states are Lincoln's fault and are not forgiva
	ble for the constitution through the amendment process allows for complete
	 government flexibility through the law+ the declaration of independence a
	llows for complete government modulation. If brothers are tired of brother
	s then let them split. why fight the will of the people Lincoln? The answe
	r is pride. And Lincoln's pride cost more than the white community\, Jim C
	row and the never ending waves of assault on First peoples\, commonly call
	ed native americans\, is lincoln's fault as well\, because in forcing the 
	union\, he forced the dislike that led to the war between the states in th
	e first place to mutate into various other things\, whether he lived or wa
	s assasinated. The generals of the Union pre Grant\, were clearly envious 
	of Lee and wanted to best him thus their foolish zeal\, which led to the n
	eed to get black troops which mean those generals had literally made the p
	rimary error of any commander in war by not assessing your army properly. 
	to make a plan that forces your army to change is the sign of the utmost m
	ismanagement. I end with Grant. Grant inherited a problem. The war was at 
	a stalemate. William Tecumseh Sherman correctly realized the stalemate aft
	er all the bloodshed would never end in peaceful resolution as long as the
	 confederacy could fight. The time for that was at the beginning of the wa
	r with General Beauregard's plan \, which lincoln\, lee\, davis earlier ge
	nerals of the union all wasted with their agendas. Sherman allowed Grant t
	o not be the bad guy and go for the throat. Grant did and it was over. The
	 north always had trade supremacy. The south never figured out how to impr
	ove trade\, which is why Beauregard told them to do that. \n\n\n\n	And th
	e point of this is\, regardless of people who have wisdom\, the usa then c
	irca 1865 and now circa 2025\, have a populace of people who are like Lee\
	, Lincoln\, Davis\, they love telling another I told you so\, making them 
	see \"The Light\". This is not restricted to the U.S.A. It is very human a
	nd always when you have abrasive groups who share a heritage but have a di
	fferent heritage as well and especially a different culture. If North Kore
	a would had not needed to have the entire peninsula and let south Korea be
	 a little city state at the south of the island circa May 1950 North Korea
	 would be most of the Korean peninsula today\, absent any intervention by 
	USA or China or Russia or Europe. If Ireland would just let Northern Irela
	nd go no talks of continuing troubles will persist. If the Yoruba/Igbo/Hau
	sa can accept they don't want to be Nigerian\, they can grow freely better
	 from each other. The anglophiles in Jamaica and the Rastafariansin Jamaic
	a can realize that their two paths can never make one Jamaica... \n\n\n\n
		As in this little community\, African American Literary Book Club\, in th
	e massive world wide web proves in its forum daily\, the ability of Statia
	ns to \"I told you so\" is so strong\, they love to do that offer acting f
	unctionally to the causes they say they want. \n\n\n\n	And so what I say 
	will not occur in the USA\, which is the functional answer to your call. 
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		 \n\n\n\n	IN AMENDMENT\n\n\n\n	 \n\n\n\n	 @aka Contrarian\n\n\n\n	Well
	 I am going to defend your original position and not because your birthday
	 recently passed:) \n\n\n\n	You didn't make a mistake at all. What you sa
	id originally wasn't simple\, it was the truth. The truth doesn't have to 
	be an essay\, or speech\, nor should it be expanded or contracted in verbo
	sity. It can be one sentence. My entire reply simply supported your one se
	ntence\, so my reply wasn't needed. Is it not true the first peoples\, com
	monly called the native american\, warrant their own country? Is it not tr
	ue DOSers warrant their own country? Is it not true Whites have killed and
	 enslaved nonwhites to their benefit in their country\, the USA? Is it not
	 true\, immigrants come to the usa for the impotency under the governments
	 they left? If all of the prior questions are true how is what you said no
	t the truth? \n\n\n\n	The problems aren't complicated either\, the proble
	ms are the truth. Whites don't know how to lose. Centuries of winning does
	 that. First people and DOSers don't know how to win\, centuries of losing
	 does that. The immigrants don't want instability. They came because the u
	sa is stable. A break up of the usa is instability\, shaking things up. Th
	e one thing immigrants fear more than anything cause instability reminds t
	hem of the countries whose flags they wear in the usa. \n\n\n\n	The probl
	ems are simple\, the people of the usa are the problem. \n\n\n\n	 \n\n\n
	\n	And you have never suggested prescience \, you are too wise for that. 
	\n\n\n\n	\n		5 hours ago\, aka Contrarian said:\n	\n\n	\n		\n			Time is th
	e only hope. It brings change but as we know\, it is gradual. \n		\n	\n\n
	\n\n	I will amend\, time plus life is hope. Change is usually gradual but 
	not always. And the truth is\, the choices people make determine the futur
	e. Even if they think their choice is unimportant.  Cause every life touc
	hes another even after a passing. \n\n
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