BEGIN:VCALENDAR VERSION:2.0 PRODID:-//InvisionCommunity Events 5.0.18//EN METHOD:PUBLISH CALSCALE:GREGORIAN REFRESH-INTERVAL:PT15M X-PUBLISHED-TTL:PT15M X-WR-CALNAME:RMCommunityCalendar NAME:RMCommunityCalendar BEGIN:VTIMEZONE TZID:Europe/London TZURL:https://tzurl.org/zoneinfo/Europe/London X-LIC-LOCATION:Europe/London BEGIN:DAYLIGHT TZOFFSETFROM:+0000 TZOFFSETTO:+0100 TZNAME:BST DTSTART:20250330T020000Z RRULE:FREQ=YEARLY;BYMONTH=3;BYDAY=-1SU END:DAYLIGHT BEGIN:STANDARD TZOFFSETFROM:+0100 TZOFFSETTO:+0000 TZNAME:GMT DTSTART:20251026T020000Z RRULE:FREQ=YEARLY;BYMONTH=10;BYDAY=-1SU END:STANDARD END:VTIMEZONE BEGIN:VEVENT SUMMARY:Movies That Move We- Sounder 1972 DTSTAMP:20250924T033024Z SEQUENCE:0 UID:522-7-c3fe8195a3dde498d013e477e2142422@aalbc.com ORGANIZER;CN="richardmurray":noreply@aalbc.com DESCRIPTION:\n \n\n Movies That Move We- Sounder\n\n https://www.youtube .com/watch?v=o9WlL2KAjlg\n\n\n\n \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n \n\n My Thoughts To t he Minutes\n\n Movies That Move We\, the third generation:) \n\n Lis + Ki m+ Manda with Nike looking at Sounder.\n\n Manda/Kim/Nike/Lis\n\n\n\n 2:10 interesting that Kim had to read The Secret Garden. \n3:22 Nike question \, a question of a black family written by a white man?\nLis: don't feel i t is well received\nKim: if he grew up in a family different than him\, or have a different  . But \nManda: a product of the time. He had editors. the gaze in the story is for a certain audience. \n6:14 Nike couldn't fi nd any interviews. She cites a note: \"fifty years ago i learned to read a t a round table at a country school house\, the teachers name was Charles jones. After school he worked for my father and in the summer he drove a h ay rake and a mowing machine. He had a deep rich voice and he loved to tel l stories\, I have never forgotten them. Out of the stories he told me and the boy who sat next to me in the round table came the story in this book \"\n7:42 Nike didn't like the unnamed characters\n10:20 Swampy the dog had no other roles in a movie:) \n11:21 Nike asked what do you think about t he dog?\nKim\, she liked the dog in the book becoming part of the family.  \n17:14 Nike\, is this a radical story?\nLis\, the screen writer was bla ck for the film did that make a difference. \nKim\, felt the film was tam e.\nManda\, she turned it on and told her kids to go away.\n22:45 The perf ormance of Cicely Tyson \n24:54 In the book\, the author didn't have the ability to write the energy \, so in the movie\, a black woman was able to bring life in it.\n27:11 in 1972 women couldn't have a credit card on the ir own in the united states of America\, good point by Nike.\n28:29 Lis\, good point\, god is the higher male and the pastor used god in that part.\ n29:55 Nike\, when the boy went to the teachers house \, he felt she was r ich\ngood question about whether he got that from a first hand source\n31: 32 Nike\, what are your thoughts on the education scene?\nKim\, excited bu t sad. The teacher was considered rich for having her own home. A simple t hing. \nManda\, in the book\, we saw his progression. he lamented he coul dn't read. In the movie he already can. And in the book the teacher was an older white guy\, while the teacher was a younger black female.\n33:48 Ov erview call from Nike\n34:19 Manda\, ask\, does the movie exist as a recla mation of the story. \n37:56 The ending\, \nin the book the father was p aralyzed very badly while in the movie\, it was made more gentle.\n39:15 G ood point that the father and dog died in the book at the end.\n39:42 Nike asked how did it feel\nKim mentioned how she never lived in such a financ ially poor housing as the black characters in the book and she was spoiled as a child and when she was subjected to stories like this\, she said tha nk god i am not in this situation.\n41:36 Unike Sounder roots was very vis ible with the violence. \n41:56 before Roots what story was the media sta ndard?  \n43:28 Nike can't recall to many films with a black child at the center.\n\n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n IN AMENDMENT\n\n Sounder 2 suppos edly was barely released which i argue is how the film industry producers historically kill films they don't want any to see but were forced from wh atever reason to produce. Think John carter of mars for disney. IT was mad e \, but Disney killed that film in advertising in the media mechanics of what a film needs. And Disney did it cause they bought MArvel and didn't w ant to waste any future money on a john carter series \n\n link\n\n https ://books.google.com/books?id=X7ZYsnTPIhwC&\;lpg=PA78&\;vq=annazette% 20chase&\;pg=PA78#v=onepage&\;q&\;f=falseembed\n\n\n\n \n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n \n\n referral\n\n https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Part_2\,_Sounde r\n\n\n\n The Dandridge Sisters n 1940 Irene\n\n https://youtu.be/CTeabecj _4o?si=BQ2qgnGQ6_1bTeYs\n\n\n\n \n\n\n\n \n\n Bright Road\n\n Directed by     Gerald Mayer\n\n Screenplay by    Emmet Lavery\n\n Based on    \"See How They Run\"\n\n 1951 short story Ladies' Home Journal\n\n by M ary Elizabeth Vroman\n\n Starring    Dorothy Dandridge\n\n Philip Hepbu rn\n\n Harry Belafonte\n\n Barbara Ann Sanders\n\n https://youtu.be/278qbM mPpPI?si=eqML-s-coYm5Wmwo\n\n\n\n \n\n\n\n \n\n https://en.wikipedia.org/w iki/Bright_Road\n\n\n\n Four Shall Die is a 1940 American supernatural cri me film directed by William Beaudine. It features Dorothy Dandridge in her first credited film role.\n\n It says in the black cinemaconnection that the film is presumed lost. Damn!\n\n https://blackcinemaconnection.com/201 8/10/29/four-shall-die/\n\n\n\n  \n\n\n\n My Comment\n\n\n\n Nike\, you d on't like stories with characters absent a name?\nLis\, the problem is\, t he producer of the film was white and controlled what could be done or emi tted\, to this day producers dictate the parameters of artistic expression of directors/thespians or others?\nManda\, what later films are inspired by Sounder's stylistic conversions from book to screenplay\, if any?\nMand a ask is the film a reclamation.  I argue\, yes absent deviating from bei ng an intended feel good story. \nA sounder 2? \nMy first question to yo u four is\, with so many people\, black in particular\, desiring not to se e films involving enslavement of blacks to whites\, in the usa in particul ar\, or seeing black struggle in an environment controlled by the non blac k\, does Sounder fit the desire of some film goers \, black or non black\, to see a film absent black suffering or black struggle?\n My second ques tion to you four is\, the film industry ever since the code came in has al ways pushed films based on literature to be less violent\, less fornicativ e\, less depictive of negativities than the books themselves\, the two opp ositions to that are the Frankenstein films and Glory from spielberg\, whe re Frankenstein is written as a creature fully functional or pleasant in a ppearance as a human male\, the movies make the creature\, crude\, disgust ing looking\, incapable to be with a woman\, OR the fifty third regiment m ostly made up of free black men who can read but are depicted more negativ ely in terms of their status or condition. But\, from fifty shades to Soun der to lord of the flies\, to journey to the west to the statian film adap ations of \"men who hate women\" ninety nine percent of films are never al lowed to go as far as books. So my question is\, what do you say to that? Has the film going audience in the usa been trained to expect a lighter to uch on violent scenes\, so much that to do as the books most violent parts will be unacceptable? \nKim\, roots was made in 1977\, five years after \, and Manda's question is interesting. If Sounder had not been made\, wou ld Roots be made?\nI think Roots is interesting cause even though Roots is well known \, it isn't something shown alot today. And I argue it is beca use it isn't uplifting. Overall it doesn't allow non blacks to think of th e usa as this country of egalitarianism\, not does it allow blacks to thin k of the usa as some wanted home by their forebears\, who were forced to i mmigrate. \nNanda\, asked before Roots what was the film dealing with the past of blacks in the USA considered the \"standard\" and I argue Sounder was it. \nNike\, check out the film Bright Road with Dorothy Dandridge\, the question I pose to all four of you is\, if no \"Bright Road\" 1953 ha ppened would there be a Sounder film?\n\n\n\n\n \n\n \n\n referral\n\n htt ps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9WlL2KAjlg&\;lc=UgwTgyYJo5BPjxYaWzB4AaABA g \n\n DTSTART;VALUE=DATE:20250923 RRULE:FREQ=YEARLY;INTERVAL=1 END:VEVENT END:VCALENDAR