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SUMMARY:Black History Month 2026  end
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DESCRIPTION:\n	WHO ARE THE BLACK TRIBES?\n\n\n\n	 \n\n\n\n	Pioneer has 
	a post\n\n\n\n	https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/12557-my-tribe-vs-yo-tribe/\n\n\
	n\n	 \n\n\n\n	MY COMMENT\n\n\n\n	Posted just now\n\n\n\n	  \n\n\n\n	@P
	ioneer1\n\n\n\n	 Ending black history month with thoughtfulness:) hope #b
	lack327 is very eventful \n\n\n\n	 \n\n\n\n	I have confused you. \n\n\n
	\n	Black Americans is the root\, these are all black peoples in the usa\, 
	gardless of ancestry\, language\, religion\, this is all about the skin. 
	\n\n\n\n	Black Americans in the USA today is composed of two main groups\,
	 populaces not tribes. \n\n\n\n	Black DOSers- descended of enslaved black
	 folk which also includes those who willingly immigrated into the usa befo
	re the 1960s\,  like MArcus Garvey for example\n\n\n\n	+ \n\n\n\n	Black 
	modern immigrants - black people who willingly immigrated to the usa when 
	Blacks achieved in the USA complete legal federal recognition which was wi
	th the Civil Rights Act of  immigration act of 1964 and who came after th
	e immigration act of 1965.  Yes\, black people did freely immigrate into 
	the USA before 1964 or 1965 but before then the federal legal rights of Bl
	ack people in the usa were simply not in any way even to whites. Now state
	s laws would take time to change but by the end of the jim crow era\, 1980
	\, they did. \n\n\n\n	Black Modern immigrants tribes are based on the cou
	ntries they come from: jamaican/panamanian/south african/nigerian/indian/b
	rasilian either their country is majority black and so they come from a tr
	ibe in their country of their country has a name for the black minority. 
	\n\n\n\n	Black DOSers have three tribes from the creation of the USA  and
	 none are based on geography \, all are based on a philosophy toward the u
	sa or the whites in it. \n\n\n\n	Black Statians are black people who embr
	ace the USA as their home\, gardless of whites activity\, gardless of the 
	historic reality\, gardless of most black peoples views towards the usa or
	 the whites in it. . James Forten for example. WAs a businessman\, fought 
	for the USA\, was a prisoner of war\, and all of this is while over 90% of
	 black people in the colonies were completely enslaved\, and most who got 
	freedom fought against the USA\, yet he held firm. Black Statians are not 
	about being in the majority\, it is about the usa as their home \, gardles
	s of anything else. \n\n\n\n	Black Militants - I want to say a caveat\, m
	ilitancy is really about wanting to go to war. But Black Militants are rea
	lly about trust. Black Militants don't trust/will never trust the usa or w
	hites of the usa and want the earned revenge. Now the earliest black milit
	ants fought for the english\, whites\, not because they trust whites\, but
	 because they distrust white statians the most\, and want revenge. \n\n\n
	\n	Black Freefolk- I use this term because\, what many people don't seem t
	o comprehend is when the USA was founded\, over ninety percent of black pe
	ople were enslaved to whites. What does that mean? That means when the USA
	 was founded over ninety percent of blacks\, had no allegiance or caring f
	or the USA or for whites\, so they weren't statians\, even though many of 
	them them or most their lineage would only know the usa as a home\, it had
	 no connection to them. But they weren't militants. Yes\, they hated white
	s but they didn't want revenge\, they only wanted away from whites. All th
	ey wanted was to be as far away from the colonies or the later USA or whit
	e people as possible. In them you find the back to africa movement\, which
	 at is heart to trying to get black people as far away from whites or the 
	usa. Their influence is what made in combination side black statians the e
	xoduster movement\, which at its heart is an agreement between black stati
	ans + black freefolk. Essentially\, one group says they embrace the usa\, 
	the other group says\, they want as far away from the usa or the whites in
	 it. So the middle ground is places as far away from whites in the usa. Th
	e problem is\, white people historically\, don't like black people to be u
	ndisturbed by whites wherever we live. whether an urban black region or a 
	black town\, whites have a heritage of negative meddling with blacks. Anot
	her subtribe for the the black freefolk are those Leaving the USA [which 
	for the record always goes on among black DOSers every year\, yes it has n
	ever bee n a majority act but people forget whites historically hated blac
	k people who spoke of leaving the usa. From most whites perspectives\, his
	toorically\, they wanted black people to embrace being enslaved as a posit
	ive\, for white financial betterment... ]. Another subtribe are black indi
	vidualism. It makes sense to me. how Black people descended from enslaved 
	people who had nothing to do with the creation of the usa and were descend
	ed from people who wanted nothing to do with the usa or the white people i
	n it would see themselves as individuals. Embracing a hard truth that\, th
	e usa is nothing to them \, but since fate has placed them here\, they jus
	t live\, not because they are comfortable or love whites\, but simply beca
	use like the ninety percent of our forebears enslaved in the usa when it w
	as founded \, they have no where to go or nothing to be apart communally. 
	The slave quarter isn't a communal zone\, it is pig pen for humans\, so if
	 the usa is merely  a huge pig pen in a black person's mind\, they why sh
	ould they think communally. \n\n\n\n	\n\n	For me\, I don't know either of
	 you well enough to be sure of anything . But based on communications in t
	his forum\, I think\, cynique like yourself are Black Statians\, the tribe
	 in the populace of Black DOSers.   Both of you embrace the USA. \n\n\n
	\n	You pioneer seem to have an exoduster mentality. You embrace the usa\, 
	part of you loves it. But what you want for its future is black solidarity
	 + safety in the usa\, not as indiivduals in a hyper mixed brew but in spe
	cific locals. It isn't impossible\, to reach what you want. Nothing is eas
	y. \n\n\n\n	Cynique it seems\, has a James Forten philosophy. She embrace
	s not only the usa but the idea its white enslaving founders suggested \, 
	a country of humans\, individuals who embrace the idea that each individua
	l should be treated equally. Frederick Douglass/MLK jr/Barrack Obama all l
	ive their lives with this idea\, started from James Forten's or similars e
	xample. Arguably\, Black Statians like Cynique are closest to achieving th
	eir goal. because Black Statians like her were by default most willing to 
	work with whites\, they benefited them in the usa\, where whites only star
	ted allowing the majority of the black populace equal status\, 1980. to be
	 blunt\, if you aren't willing to work with whites pre 1980\, while you li
	ve in the usa\, you essentially have nothing. As black DOSers forebears we
	re enslaved so they could provide no fiscal inheritance and as all know\, 
	over ninety percent of wealth in the usa is inheritance.  Very few whites
	 are willing to work with blacks who want away. Yes\, Back to Africa movem
	ents occurred in the usa \, but their white financiers were never represen
	ting a majority of whites. \n\n\n\n	So\, For me\, both of you are Black S
	tatians. \n\n\n\n	 \n\n\n\n	The key for you to comprehend is Black DOSer
	s relationship to the usa is historically not financial\, it is pure philo
	sophy\, or vendetta based. This is why Black Modern Immigrants fit in so w
	ell with the USA\, because their relationship is like all non blacks who a
	ren't indigenous. It is\, a financial desire to make money\, to be better 
	off. But\, Black DOSers didn't originally have that desire\, and even in 1
	865\, when the enslavement era ends and jim crow begins. Black DOSers didn
	't come into the Jim Crow era thinking I want to be apart of the USA. Blac
	k Freefolk historically had to be convinced of the merit of the USA which 
	many Black Statians have always had problems with .\, ala the similarity o
	f Frederick Douglass/MLK jr/ Barrack Obama who arguably all spent the latt
	er years of their most potent time disliked by most Black DOSErs. Which ma
	kes sense\, because Black Statians by default\, embrace the usa no matter 
	what. So faced with Black people with the same experiences who don't accep
	t it at all\, or who need convincing when whites make that nearly impossib
	le\, outside of faith based\, it becomes a natural divide no bridge can cr
	oss. \n\n\n\n	 \n\n\n\n	Citation\n\n\n\n	https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/1255
	7-my-tribe-vs-yo-tribe/#findComment-80451\n\n\n\n	IN AMENDMENT\n\n\n\n	 \
	n\n\n\n	03022026\n\n\n\n	 \n\n\n\n	Citation\n\n\n\n	https://aalbc.com/tc/
	topic/12557-my-tribe-vs-yo-tribe/#findComment-80496\n\n\n\n	 \n\n\n\n	ost
	ed just now\n\n\n\n	@frankster \n\n\n\n	what you speak is what James For
	ten/ Frederick Douglass/ MLK jr/Barrck Obama said in more words or more el
	oquently or in how they lived their life. \n\n\n\n	But their lives prove 
	that other humans are not always in concurrence to that standing. and that
	 is my point. I don't speak of tribes because it is the most positive plus
	 effective end\, the most effective end for humans is to treat all life on
	 earth with the same love or consideration each human will want to themsel
	ves\, but that isn't how humanity operates. \n\n\n\n	 \n\n\n\n	@aka Cont
	rarian\n\n\n\n	yes\, i think that in the population of the usa is already 
	brewing a people who will functionalize your way [or at least try to] \, t
	he way many other black people in the usa today adhere to\, what the rapin
	g slaver thomas jefferson wrote\, what black people like james forten/fred
	erick douglass/mlk jr lived their entire lives fighting for even when most
	 black people opposed them. what barrack obama tried to uphold even though
	 the needs of the usa in the immediate term warranted another way. \n\n\n
	\n	 \n\n
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