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SUMMARY:Economic Corner 38 03/10/2026
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DESCRIPTION:\n	 \n\n\n\n	Community Service Labor - a friend of mine sta
	ted the following idea:  Mayor Mamdani can use community service to get p
	eople to shovel the snow instead of hiring people for twenty eight dollars
	 an hour. I [them not richard murray] argue it can be used for many things
	\, to bring forth community. \n\n	In Amendment- I searched to see what ca
	n be used for community service in NYC\, how many acquire community servic
	e in NYC and realized it is many. It is an idea that can work. The problem
	 is that\, this cuts against the revenue earning philosophy of labor. To b
	e blunt\, the problem is\, the USA has a heritage of individuals abusing l
	abor from other individuals to make fiscal fortunes while it has a heritag
	e of laborers upholding a fantasy of merited labor as the basis of labor i
	n the usa. Said two heritages have mutated to become an inability of peopl
	e in the usa to accept that their labor doesn't warrant financial return n
	o matter what it is\, while the wealthy want to use tools to make a perman
	ent fiscal underclass which temporally will never occur. Wisdom which is s
	omething only experience or natural inclination can generate in humans pro
	ve that all things end and all things include the use of any tool or the e
	xistence of any government. When? who knows outside nature\, but it will h
	appen.\n\n\n\n	 \n\n\n\n	INFORMATION I FOUND\n\n\n\n	New York City commun
	ity service\n\n	-&gt\;\n\n	HOW DO I KNOW IF I CAN DO COMMUNITY SERVICE FOR
	 MY VIOLATION?:\n\n	You will be allowed to do community service\, instead 
	of paying a fine\, only if your summons is on this list [ LOOK BELOW] and 
	if:\n\n	You admit to the charge that is listed on the summons on or before
	 the hearing date that is printed on your summons\; or\n\n	After your OATH
	 hearing\, you receive a decision where the Hearing Officer says that you 
	have the option to perform community service.\n\n	COMMUNITY SERVICE OPTION
	S:\n\n	If any one of the above items is true and you would like to do comm
	unity service\, then you can choose one of the following options to satisf
	y your summons' community service requirement:\n\n	If this list shows that
	 you can do either one or two hours of community service\, then you can ei
	ther:\n\n	complete an online educational course\; or\n\n	complete the comm
	unity service over the phone.\n\n	If this list shows that you can do three
	 hours of community service\, then you can complete the community service 
	by webcam\; or\n\n	You can complete the community service in person\, in o
	ur Help Center office.\n\n	website\n\n	https://www.nyc.gov/site/oath/help-
	center/oath-community-service.page\n\n\n\n	List of New York City penalties
	 you can get community service for. \n\n	https://www.nyc.gov/assets/oath/
	downloads/pdf/CJRA-Penalty-Chart-effective.pdf\n\n\n\n	New York State comm
	unity service standard\n\n	https://www.criminaljustice.ny.gov/opca/communi
	tyservicestandards.htm\n\n\n\n	 \n\n\n\n	POST URL\n\n\n\n	Do you believe 
	in first come first serve in hiring?\n\n\n\n	Would you implement community
	 service to expand the labor force?\n\n\n\n	https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/125
	84-do-you-believe-in-first-come-first-serve-in-hiring/\n\n\n\n	PRIOR EDITI
	ON\n\n\n\n	https://aalbc.com/tc/events/event/675-economic-corner-37-031020
	26/\n\n\n\n	NEXT EDITION\n\n\n\n	https://aalbc.com/tc/events/event/682-eco
	nomic-corner-39-03242026/\n\n\n\n	 \n\n\n\n	COMMENT\n\n\n\n	 \n\n\n\n	03
	152026\n\n\n\n	https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/12584-do-you-believe-in-first-co
	me-first-serve-in-hiring/#findComment-80714\n\n\n\n	osted just now\n\n\n\
	n	@Pioneer1 \n\n\n\n	I have relatives who were alive during that time\, m
	ost of those jobs went to whites though blacks did get some and considerin
	g black hiring in the private sector which was corretly 99% white didn't h
	ire blacks\, that action from FDR was huge for black people in the arena o
	f labor.\n\n\n\n	@ProfD \n\n\n\n	 \n\n\n\n	  8 hours ago\, ProfD sai
	d:\n\n\n\n	Sure\, i believe in 1st come 1st served in hiring as long as fo
	lks are *qualified* to do the *work*.\n\n\n\n	hmmm\, qualification stan
	dards in labor in the united states of america has two historic problems\,
	 which are still relevant in modernity.\n\n\n\n	1) qualifications being me
	t rarely equate to the quality of performance by one in a job. for example
	\, many lawyers or engineers exists in the usa \, to fit in any demographi
	c category\, and yet\, the judgable performance of lawyers/elected officia
	ls who are mostly lawyers/corporate executive officiers who are mostly law
	yers/engineers/the ceos who are engineers  through private practices\, la
	ws made in government\, publicly traded firms products or operations are v
	ery poor in the united states of america. The proof that qualifications be
	ing met don't relate to quality in the job is throughout the usa in many e
	xamples. \n\n\n\n	2)qualifications rarely matter to the acquisition of a 
	job. I don't need to remind anybody not white or male that only from 1980 
	onward has a majority of jobs in the usa been remotely possible for someon
	e not white male christian to acquire. I can tell you from my own parents 
	how many jobs they were denied for being black. They fit all of those stat
	ed qualifications and it didn't mean a damn thing cause the person in char
	ge of hiring\, whether they admitted it or not\, was looking for someone w
	hite\, and probably a friend or relative\, in opposition to caring about s
	tated qualifications for whatever labor they offer. \n\n\n\n	 \n\n\n\n	S
	o I comprehend your desire to have first come first serve attached to some
	 qualification\, assuming the qualification can be made even which... is d
	oubtful. But\, qualifications to be blunt\, is another form of gatekeeping
	 on job opportunities\, which straightly impedes the goal of getting jobs 
	moving. \n\n\n\n	 \n\n\n\n	Now maybe you are arguing that the qualificat
	ions set for most jobs in the usa are erroneous or negative or imbalanced 
	to the jobs in question. But that goes back to the lack of quality to whom
	ever is in charge or the labor opportunities. \n\n\n\n	 \n\n\n\n	Meeting
	 halfway\, I think a better thing isn't to have qualifications \, but to h
	ave more well defined probationary periods\, not one period but periods. M
	Eaning most jobs have an unwritten probationary period or a probationary p
	eriod that is unchallenging. I argue\, all jobs expose what you know or do
	n't know\, what skills you have or don't have \,  to perform the task any
	 job need. \n\n\n\n	 \n\n\n\n	For example\, a brain surgeon\,  instead 
	of a degree or doctor of philosophy from the massachuestts institute of te
	chnology\, what if a first probationary period determing whether you are a
	 decent doctor is key? do you know how to fill out forms\, handle cuts bru
	ises\, handle emergency situations with many injured\, speak to the ill pl
	us their loving ones. if you show you do then you go to the next tier. in 
	the next tier\, can you stitch a stomach wound\, scan perform an invasive 
	procedure in the arm. \n\n\n\n	 \n\n\n\n	03162026\n\n\n\n	https://aalbc.
	com/tc/topic/12584-do-you-believe-in-first-come-first-serve-in-hiring/#fin
	dComment-80731\n\n\n\n	osted just now\n\n\n\n	@ProfD \n\n\n\n	  18 hou
	rs ago\, ProfD said:\n\n\n\n	I would prefer that a brain surgeon be *qua
	lified* to perform that work.\n\n\n\n	 \n\n\n\n	Nobody wants their head c
	ut open &amp\; brain exposed by someone who watched a few Youtube videos &
	amp\; think they got it.\n\n\n\n	 \n\n\n\n	I would prefer too\, all would
	 and will prefer\, but the question is what determines qualification? the 
	key is the question of how is qualifications determined?\n\n\n\n	When rela
	tives of mine have been malpracticed on by doctors\, what was the penalty 
	to said doctors\, who are supposedly qualified because of pieces of paper 
	from columbia and MIT and Johns Hopkins? the answer is nothing. So\,  you
	r correct\, all people want the best healthcare BUT what determines the pe
	rson who is the best? pieces of paper. \n\n\n\n	Again\, the united states
	 of america is a case study on the lack of quality. \n\n\n\n	The Newspape
	rs reporters or owners are clearly lacking in quality because\n\n\n\n	Hosp
	itals have daily malpractice suits\, from supposed qualified folk \, suppo
	sedly trained to be the best doctors \n\n\n\n	Law Enforcement agencies ha
	ve mounds of domestic violence or domestic abuse claims unattended from su
	pposedly qualified folk\, supposedly trained to be the best law enforcers.
	\n\n\n\n	Billion Dollar firms in the usa continually are bankrupt and need
	 saving administered by supposedly qualified folk\, supposedly trained to 
	be the best business operators or lawyers.\n\n\n\n	 \n\n\n\n	The Newspape
	rs will put on page one when a black child steals an apple or a black adul
	t holds a knife.\n\n\n\n	But medical malpractice in the united states of a
	merica has always been rampant\, and always protected from negative public
	 opinion by media. And medical malpractice occurs from those supposedly qu
	alified so... where is their demerit? how are they then unqualified? Don't
	 tell me a doctor that has medical malpractice is still qualified. And for
	 anyone who feels doctors have earned the right of mistake\, well I want y
	ou to lose someone you love right now and then tell me how you feel. \n\n
	\n\n	Law Enforcement costs the usa billions in civil court because of law 
	enforcers committing crimes. PEople talk about city budget but the NYPD ha
	s cost NYC since the 1970s billions of dollars in civil court. And\, lets 
	not go into the fact that the NYPD alone has a much longer history of crim
	inal activity that it was completely protected from. So \, do their badges
	 burn when their fail in quality? How do they remain qualified ? \n\n\n\n
		When the entire banking industry went bankrupt in the united states of am
	erica filled with massachusetts of institute of technology graduates\, doe
	sn't that mean MIT's teaching qualifications or Goldman Sach's and simila 
	firms accounting qualifications are proven false? Don't tell me it was the
	ir plan to go bankrupt and beg for money worse than any black woman on wel
	fare ever did\, or as well as white women on welfare have. \n\n\n\n	 \n\
	n\n\n	Yes\, people learning online may be no better as doctors or law enfo
	rcers or corporate executive officers but if they are learning from what i
	s given in a short time\, how is that worse than people supposedly trained
	 to be the best whom have already shown a lack of quality and lost any adm
	ission of qualification if honest? \n\n\n\n	 \n\n\n\n	I don't sense pena
	lty in the usa for those who are supposedly qualified to do anything\, whe
	ther it is failing elected officials\, failing corporate executive officer
	s\, failing doctors \, failing law enforcers all of whom are plenty in mod
	ern day \, 2026 \, usa. \n\n\n\n	 \n\n\n\n	So maybe first come first ser
	ve as a penalty for proving oneself unqualified is the answer.\n\n\n\n	 \
	n\n\n\n	03172026\n\n\n\n	https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/12584-do-you-believe-i
	n-first-come-first-serve-in-hiring/#findComment-80737\n\n\n\n	osted just 
	now\n\n\n\n	@ProfD \n\n\n\n	  19 hours ago\, ProfD said:\n\n\n\n	Qual
	ifications are determined &amp\; taught by subject matter experts in a giv
	en field.\n\n\n\n	 \n\n\n\n	who or what determines who is a subject matte
	r expert?  better questions... who does profd rely on to determine who is
	 a subject matter expect? how does profd determine who is a subject matter
	 expert?\n\n\n\n	 \n\n\n\n	I will speak for myself and say\, pieces of pa
	per mean nothing to me in determining if someone is an expert\n\n\n\n	 \n
	\n\n\n	  19 hours ago\, ProfD said:\n\n\n\n	Reads like your relatives 
	didn't hire the *right* lawyers.\n\n\n\n	 \n\n\n\n	let's jump beyond my r
	elatives\, all the black people in the usa who deal with tons of abuses\, 
	sometimes leading to death\, daily\, from law enforcers\, from banks\, fro
	m hospitals. I assume you feel the answer to these abusers is in the court
	 room? So these abusers outside of being penalized after someone takes the
	m to court or just free to continue?\n\n\n\n	 \n\n\n\n	  19 hours ago\
	, ProfD said:\n\n\n\n	any people &amp\;/or their families have won medic
	al malpractice lawsuits.\n\n\n\n	 \n\n\n\n	Doctors with a track record of
	 failure lose their medical licenses. \n\n\n\n	not most people win medica
	l malpractice lawsuits let alone as you asserted earlier\, most people pro
	vide a lawsuit from this little unimportant thing to you called fiscal pov
	erty.\n\n\n\n	why does a track record have to occur? how many errors on a 
	record warrant demeriting? Funny\, when a black child steals an apple\, bl
	ack people have no mercy in claiming that child did a wrong above wrongs b
	ut a white man with a piece of paper\, needs how many strikes before he is
	 outcase as a doctor? what number is it exactly? Or is it a random number?
	 \n\n\n\n	Gardless\, most doctors with a track record of failure don't lo
	se their license\, and more importantly \, in the usa at least\, most doct
	ors are allowed at least one failure which goes to my point. qualification
	s mean nothing when no penalty exist.\n\n\n\n	  19 hours ago\, ProfD s
	aid:\n\n\n\n	ll jurisdictions put a certain amount aside for civil litigat
	ion. \n\n\n\n	Are you suggesting the city of new york has a surplus of ca
	sh left from its reservoir of losing lawsuit money. You do realize what yo
	ur saying? I hope you do. \n\n\n\n	Your telling me NYC had 1.5 billion do
	llars prepared for 2024 for civil litigation\, who gave them this money? t
	he federal government has never done anything like that. NYC gets money fr
	om new york state which it has to beg for every year\, without new york st
	ate money new york city is collapsed with no question. Your telling me NY 
	state gave ny city 1.5 billion dollars in preparation:) come on! but ok\, 
	if that is your position\, just give me a yes or no and be gone\n\n\n\n	ht
	tps://comptroller.nyc.gov/newsroom/city-paid-1-45b-in-settlements-last-fis
	cal-year-nyc-comptroller-finds-in-fy-2023-claims-report/\n\n\n\n	  19 ho
	urs ago\, ProfD said:\n\n\n\n	Some law enforcement officers have been st
	ripped of their badges or fired or imprisoned for committing crimes. \n\n
	\n\n	 \n\n\n\n	not most\, this goes back to the jim crow era\, the black 
	populace in the usa from 1865 to 1980 had millions of cases that never wen
	t to court based on white terrorism. Millions of cases. I am 100% certain 
	less than one percent of the law enforcers who abused black people at any 
	given year from 1865 to 2026\, any year\, not one percent of the combined 
	years\, less than one percent of any given year.  And I extend that to al
	l fiedls. to restate\, less than one percent of the incidents of law enfor
	cers who serve white no matter their phenotype\, doctors who serve white n
	o matter their phenotype\, white owned firms  abusing/terrorizing/harming
	 black people were taken to court in any given year from 1865 to 2026. So 
	then from the less than one percent of court cases that even were started 
	by black people against their white abusers in whatever form\,  then you 
	have the rate of success of court cases which means ten percent of cases h
	ad success. Cause white law enforcement/ white medical services /white fis
	cal firms usually win ninety percent of the time. So\, ten percent of less
	 than one percent which is VALUE: \n\n\n\n	if WhiteTerror ~ to millions o
	f incidents of terror by white to blacks per year\n\n\n\n	VLAUE= (WhiteTer
	ror/.99/10)\n\n\n\n	Your correct\, it is some\, the question then is\, to 
	any black person\, is that some something you respect or view positively o
	r not. I view it as feces\, you view it as something to be noted. ok\, eve
	n enough\n\n\n\n	  19 hours ago\, ProfD said:\n\n\n\n	Failure of banki
	ng systems is a function of greed fueled by risky &amp\; bad investments.\
	n\n\n\n	 \n\n\n\n	The qualified people know exactly what they're doing ev
	en if it means running a business into the ground. \n\n\n\n	A logic peopl
	e like you keep saying makes no sense to people like me\, you keep touting
	 greed as a negative element in fiscal capitalsim\, when by default greed 
	is inherent. \n\n\n\n	Greed has nothing to do with it. The fiscally succe
	ssful business is greedy. The fiscally ruinous business is greedy. It is q
	uality and the point is\, a failing business is not a sign of positive qua
	lity. \n\n\n\n	By your words\, a firm failing or succeeding is not a meas
	ure of quality. Because someone you deem qualified no matter what results 
	you can't delete your deeming\, cause you consider the results of their ac
	tions  never warranting declassficiation or dequalification. \n\n\n\n	Th
	at is dysfunctional to me\, but ok. \n\n\n\n	  19 hours ago\, ProfD s
	aid:\n\n\n\n	Experience &amp\; track record among other factors separates 
	the amateurs &amp\; pros.\n\n\n\n	Are you saying that those you label amat
	eur are not qualified and those you label pros are qualified? the issue he
	re is qualification . You have now added two terms that in my mind have no
	thing to do with qualification. \n\n\n\n	  19 hours ago\, ProfD said:
	\n\n\n\n	There are penalties for failure.  We don't always hear about it.
	\n\n\n\n	 \n\n\n\n	Qualifications do not equal perfection. Humans are fla
	wed. They will make mistakes too.\n\n\n\n	 \n\n\n\n	However\, I believe l
	egitimate doctors save more lives than they lose.\n\n\n\n	I don't know eve
	rything that happens in humanity\, your right. I can only guess everything
	 that happens in humanity. But I can tell you from all that I have heard\,
	 less than one percent of those deemed qualified gets penalty for harming 
	black people in the usa. \n\n\n\n	I promised the following beforehand \, 
	I hope everyone in your family get sick in hospitals\, hurt by law enforce
	ment and cheated by firms and then tell me about mistakes. \n\n\n\n	 \n\
	n\n\n	That is third term you have added\, to me\,  legitimate/amateur/pro
	s are unrelated terms to qualified or qualification. Legitimate means of t
	he law. The law can't qualify anything outside the law. Quality is a measu
	re of oneself. A law's quality is in the law itself\, its results. A docto
	rs quality is in the doctors results. a law enforcers quality is in how th
	ey enforce the law. a fiscal firms quality is in their ability to make mon
	ey/fiscus. Amateur/lover + professional/pros/one who does a thing are misu
	sed words in modernity that have nothing to do with their literal intent\,
	 it is another linguistic statianism. But one deemed an amateur in moderni
	ty is differenced by one deemed a professional in modernity by revenue to 
	labor or scale to profit. \n\n\n\n	 \n\n\n\n	But as for the gathering of
	 doctors in the usa\, do I think they heal[not just save lives] more than 
	they harm[not just murder]? that is a great question you pose. sadfully\, 
	I don't know.  I can't give a weight to either side. I know doctors in th
	e usa have harmed and are harming\, while also healed and are healing.  B
	elief in this case will require me to give benefit of doubt to the usa or 
	its people and i never have and never will\, the majority of people in the
	 usa will always be scum for me. \n\n\n\n	 \n\n\n\n	03172026\n\n\n\n	htt
	ps://aalbc.com/tc/topic/12584-do-you-believe-in-first-come-first-serve-in-
	hiring/#findComment-80740\n\n\n\n	osted just now\n\n\n\n	@ProfD \n\n\n\
	n	  1 hour ago\, ProfD said:\n\n\n\n	Herein lies your issue.  It is w
	ith the system of racism white supremacy.  Please share your idea(s) of h
	ow to dismantle it.\n\n\n\n	 \n\n\n\n	Well\, I treat each government in h
	umanity individually. China isn't the usa\, the usa isn't nigeria\,  nige
	ria isn't bolivia. governments have alliances or agreements but those ties
	 can be changed or manipulated... I don't have an issue with any system in
	 the usa because in my view\, the usa is what it always was starting from 
	european colonies and always will be\, a country composed of various peopl
	es who are dysfunctional as groups with nothing in common in an integrated
	 chaos led by individuals continually funneled in by immigration from vari
	ous peoples outside the usa who keep it afloat with their individuality in
	 various arenas from government to finance. To rephase\, a potent shithole
	 of individuals. Benjamin Franklin who published join or die begged englan
	d to bend a little to keep the colonies in the english empire. Thomas Jeff
	erson alone wrote the declaration while he and all of his peers in private
	 showed total disbelief to everything he wrote. George Wahsington went aga
	inst nearly all his peers and stepped down voluntarily. James Forten \, a 
	black man\, was a business owner literally fighting aside white men who fe
	lt the 95% of black people enslaved to whites had to stay in that conditio
	n. All these show the actions of individuals. If Franklin acted as the gro
	up he was apart of he wouldn't had made the newspaper snake\, if jefferson
	 acted as the group he was apart of he would never had written the declara
	tion as is\, if washington acted as the group he was apart of he would had
	 been kind\, if forten acted as the group he was apart of he would have fo
	ught against the creation of the usa 100%. But\, all of them are individua
	ls. That is the usa system. Faux Community. And you see this consistently 
	all the time in the usa. Individuals using groups \, screwing over groups\
	, lying about their intent being best for groups. \n\n\n\n	I only have on
	e issue with the usa or its people and it is in the very declaration of in
	dependence\, it is lies. I don't like liars \, I never have\, and I never 
	try to lie. but the usa's individualism loves to lie\, breeds liars all ov
	er\, and that does get to me\, admittedly. \n\n\n\n	Outside of that\, i a
	m merely speaking the truth to the usa. \n\n\n\n	 \n\n\n\n	 \n\n\n\n	
	  1 hour ago\, ProfD said:\n\n\n\n	Not sure of why you would hope that
	 everyone in my family suffers misfortune. \n\n\n\n	 \n\n\n\n	However\, 
	I can assure you that being keenly aware of the ups &amp\; downs of life &
	amp\; ultimately human mortality\, I've never been adversely affected emot
	ionally by it including my own family members\, friends &amp\; associates.
	  Such is a part of life.\n\n\n\n	To answer why I said the following prio
	r\, I despise quoting myself\, but ...  \n\n\n\n	  22 hours ago\, ric
	hardmurray said:\n\n\n\n	And for anyone who feels doctors have earned the
	 right of mistake\, well I want you to lose someone you love right now and
	 then tell me how you feel. \n\n\n\n	in the following comment\n\n\n\n	htt
	ps://aalbc.com/tc/topic/12584-do-you-believe-in-first-come-first-serve-in-
	hiring/#findComment-80731\n\n\n\n	 \n\n\n\n	 \n\n\n\n	  1 hour ago\, 
	ProfD said:\n\n\n\n	I'm not surprised.  it comes through in your posts.\
	n\n\n\n	yes\, even as a kid\, and while I can tell personal events in my l
	ife or sad history before my life\, if I am blunt\, I just don't care for 
	the USA. In my mind I think\, it makes sense that some black descneded of 
	enslaved will not like the usa in their blood. Absent proof\, even spiritu
	al proof\, it makes sense a little bit. \n\n\n\n	 \n\n\n\n	\n\n
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