BEGIN:VCALENDAR VERSION:2.0 PRODID:-//InvisionCommunity Events 5.0.18//EN METHOD:PUBLISH CALSCALE:GREGORIAN REFRESH-INTERVAL:PT15M X-PUBLISHED-TTL:PT15M X-WR-CALNAME:RMCommunityCalendar NAME:RMCommunityCalendar BEGIN:VTIMEZONE TZID:Europe/London TZURL:https://tzurl.org/zoneinfo/Europe/London X-LIC-LOCATION:Europe/London BEGIN:DAYLIGHT TZOFFSETFROM:+0000 TZOFFSETTO:+0100 TZNAME:BST DTSTART:20260329T020000Z RRULE:FREQ=YEARLY;BYMONTH=3;BYDAY=-1SU END:DAYLIGHT BEGIN:STANDARD TZOFFSETFROM:+0100 TZOFFSETTO:+0000 TZNAME:GMT DTSTART:20261025T020000Z RRULE:FREQ=YEARLY;BYMONTH=10;BYDAY=-1SU END:STANDARD END:VTIMEZONE BEGIN:VEVENT SUMMARY:My Favorite Black Intellectual DTSTAMP:20260528T235856Z SEQUENCE:0 UID:741-7-c3fe8195a3dde498d013e477e2142422@aalbc.com ORGANIZER;CN="richardmurray":noreply@aalbc.com DESCRIPTION:Queried in this posthttps://aalbc.com/tc/topic/12742-favouri te-black-intellectuals/MY ANSWERI will answer how I feel about some Black intellectuals already mentioned in the comments.James Baldwin- I love his cutting honesty\, from himself or to others. He admitted that he was unhap py in the usa in a complete way. and he admitted he returned to the usa wh en he saw the usa was extended everywhere outside. He didn't call usa home de facto cause he was born here\, which so many Black DOSers say stupidly . Our forebears were enslaved \, adult to children\, don't tell me the usa is home to black children living in utter hell who were forced here. They need to choose the usa as home\, it isn't de facto. Baldwin admitted some thing I rarely hear any black person admit to. That all/most of the black elders around him hated white people. Even today so many black DOSers seem to be apologist for black dislike of whites as if whites didn't earn this . I love the fact that he was off camera vibrantly homosexual. So many bla ck DOSers hide their true selves their whole lives. Many Black militants w ho want to kill whites hide their whole lives in the usa\, it is silly. Ma ny Black whitephiles who dislike other black people for being black hide t heir whole lives in the usa\, \, acting like they like being around other black people\, it is silly. Baldwin was very honest.Angela Davis- I like t hat she is a survivor. and embraces that the battle has to be continued by the next generation. It isn't up for one person to be the leader and be a t the frong forever and if the next generations aren't willing \, then the results will be what they will be. I will neverFarrakhan- is a good reade r of the environment\, he recognized black men across the usa was looking for guidance\, but sadly he wasted the opportunity to guide and instead co nvinced the black men of what they don't like about the usa.url https://aa lbc.com/tc/topic/12742-favourite-black-intellectuals/#findComment-81681MY ANSWER NOT GIVENhmmm My favorite black intellectual?Well\, how do I define a black intellectual?how do I define someone as black?how do I define an intellectual?Black is a word which can designate a phenotypical race. A ph enotypical race is a collection of people who exist within a range of phys ical features.An intellectual is any human who uses their intellect and di splays to another. this includes all humanity.A black intellectual is any black person.Who are my favorite black intellectuals?Black intellectuals i favor\, i prefer for some reason. What are the reasons I will favor an in tellectual?most potent in my rearing\, a black intellectual who has a huge role the way in my mental development\, the intellectuals about children are important.aligns to my thinking\, intellectuals that i have the most c ongruence with from my own intellect.Who are the Black Intellectuals I fav or based on the reasons stated?My parents. Two mahogany skinned black peop le. One male\, One female\, communicated about all sorts of issues\, had o pposing positions but never went to blows\, could accept unresolved differ ences of opinion absent the need to proseltyize/preach\, both liked to lea rn and listen to all black or non black. They showed me how varied being b lack is. They knew all about black history from around the earth\, it wasn 't just about the usa\, and they lived thrugh the 1900s in such a way\, th ey knew the truth about alot of black history in the usa in the 1900s\, th at many black people have been lied to about\, even by other black people. And they also made sure i had something that too too few black people hav e\,a truly positive black environment. As a child I not only had a loving home\, but 99% of my neighbors were black people who were positive themsel ves\, the most local businesses were all black owned\, my public schools w ere all black administered\, 99% being all. So i grew up surrounded by bla ck positivity. Which sadly\, is something too few black people are raised around anywhere on earth. When I look at my youth the biggest opponent to happiness was the nypd and the larger harlem and the larger manhattan and the larger NYC. So I enjoyed not only their intellect but the intellectual environment they provided for me. Said environment being a rarity among b lack folk\, not just the apartment or house\, but the larger immediate com munity was positive. In this very forum i have read so many black people t alk about their local community as dangerous and various forms or levels o f negativity\, it is sad but I am thankful to my parents as black intellec tuals for comprehending how important it is for black children to be aroun d black positivity\, not merely in the home but outside it in the near loc ale.Many black intellectuals are well known\, like dubois or douglass or n krumah or others. But the ones that are closest aligned to my thinking are ...Marcus Garvey \, Jean JAcques Dessalines\, Brother Malcolm. Garvey thro ugh his comprehension of what home is for black descended of enslaved or o ther black people when it comes to the non black . Dessalines because he c omprehended the truth about black descended of enslaved people in the amer ican continent\,we are unique peoples and don't have to mirror or match ot hers in the american continent\, none of whom are similar. Malcolm because he literally engineered the nation of islam and didn't use the nation of islam for profit\, he showed alegendary quality of leadership to a peoples who have no money\, true advocacy.05302026 https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/127 42-favourite-black-intellectuals/#findComment-81703@Troy11 hours ago\, Tro y said:where exactly is your home and why do you claim that particular pla ce?i have said before in this very forum many many times\, i am stateless\ , from my view. I know the legal standing i have by the white country I li ve in\, but I have my own position to myself.@aka Contrarian8 hours ago\, aka Contrarian said:If you guys weren't constantly bitchin' and whining ab out the lingering injustices of slavery in this country and the institutio nalized racism that is designed to stifle Blacks\, and keep them in their place and the omnipresent spectre of white supremacy and on and on and on\ , maybe Richard wouldn't look askance at the ambiguity of your relationshi p with this country.Troy bristles with his contempt f or the pervasiveness of social media and all it involves\, and ProfD makes no secret about bei ng armed and amenable to vigilancy\, never wavering in his goal of reparat ions.Funny\, I never got the impression that Richard was a member of a dif ferent generation than you two. His thinking is not archaic\, to me.All of which contributes to the elusiveness of black unity.In watching the recen tPBS special on WEB DuBos\, I can't help but wonder what tribe he would be long to\, were he still with us.I\, personally\, have given up categorizin g folks. How one views the world depends on their core personality\, im o.🙄Interesting point \, if we are all honest\, most black people have o nly ever complained about the usa or the english colonies preceding it\, c ause most black people were unhappy in the usa or the english colonies tha t preceded at as an environment.But well said\, most white people say they love the usa \, not just that it is their home\, and that love is based o n opportunities and betterment not just for themselves but their community \, which was born by any means necessary. The black people who call the us a home have never been able to call the sua a land of opportunity or bette rment for the black masses\, maybe for themsleves\, but never for a majori ty of black people like whites\, this the complaint heritage you speak of and allude to through troy and others prose.Well said.and yes\, black unit y in the usa has always been elusive and i think complicated because black people don't have a unfiied relationship to the usa. all whites\, can say their forebears came here willingly\, for better or worse. but all blacks can't say that and time can't change that.What a question on WEB DUbois. I don't know. It is a great thought experiment.The problem is DUbois died unlike his heyday. He was arguably a garveyite in his final years who was used as a tool by whites to get garvey out the usa when younger so... Dubo is is tough.I think to the point you mentioned\, Dubois would dislike the modern complaint culture in the black populace in usa \, simply because bl ack people have been doing it for 250 years\, alongside\, trying everythin g from elected officials to starting businessess and never able to really get the majority of black people in a positive place.Good enigmatic quesit on. I don't know what tribe dubois would be in modernity.It is funny\, the creation of the constitution holds the problem to categorization in the u sa.The constitution seems to only suggest the human race\, but the reality of the usa by the very person who wrote it is against that notion. And ev en though I know people of all racial types [phenotype/age/religion/or oth ers ]who are done with categorizing \, like yourself\, i also know people who are proud categorizers of all said racial types as well...Maybe the an swer is for a country to start one day that doesn't merely have the words of the constitution but is peopled by people who actually believe in unbia sed humanity\, a kind of universal individualism.I saw a thing called asia n 30 or something like that\, and an actor\, indian /of india descent. he said\, i quote\, he knows there are many in the usa who will never conside r him american. Andh here is someone whose parents willingly came to the u sa\, has earned millions in hollywood\, and admits that no matter what he does\, there are those who will never consider the usa his home. I think i t sums up the challenges of the future at least.In my head maybe the state s identity has to return\,... before the war between the states people in the usa considered themselves of the states they lived in \, not american. So\, maybe that will return.@ProfD6 hours ago\, ProfD said:would prefer t o live in Haiti if unknown circumstances didn't prevent him from relocatin g there.😎I fortunately plus unfortunately have traveled quite a bit and i know modern haiti isn't for me\, I know too many haitians\, even if mod ern haiti were to turn around financially\,\, turn around greatly\, it isn 't for me. But I would be very happy for the legacy of the Haiti of yore.0 5/30/2026 https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/12742-favourite-black-intellectuals/# findComment-81723@Troy12 hours ago\, Troy said:So you have no home?I am no t going to answer your question outside of the following.I am stateless an d think what you will@aka Contrarian9 hours ago\, aka Contrarian said:Blac k folks are masochistic\; like an abused wife who stays with her mate beca use - it hurts so good.like the romani in europe\, the okinawans in japan\ ,the nuba in egypt/kemet\, many peoples spend so long abused by a larger p opulace\, more potent group that their being dominated becomes a heritage. What Pioneer said led me to realize the key to when this happened\, was 1 865.From 1492 to 1865 no black person could say the usa was better than ca nada or mexico \, either they were equal to the usa\, Or after england ban ned enslavement or mexico banned enslavement ala jonas caballo\, both cana da or mexico made slavery illegal while slavery was still legal in the usa . Then from 1865 to 1980 the black wife was still shackled by the white ma te\, but he spent time explaining why she was enslaved/ alal the prison sy stem + sharecropping+ absent government funding for anything. But in the 1 865 time\, before and after was key.As henry louis gates jr admited\, the black church pondered whether to use violence or nonviolence. I am still t rying to find out this meeting and vote\, but from what he says\, by one v ote\, nonviolence won and \, i argue the rest is history. Pioneer says wha t country is better\, but while modernity\, 2026 can argue the usa is bett er\, in the 1800s\, the usa wasn't better for black people than any other country. So black leaders embracing the usa as a home was not based on law s or finance\, but hope or faith. And sadly\, black people\, the black wif e\, paid for that gamble with modernity\, consequences.@Pioneer16 hours ag o\, Pioneer1 said:Black Americans aren't masochistic.\nMost don't like the current situation but don't know of any BETTER options.\n\nWhat is an abu sed wife to do?\nLeave her abusive husband and go live out in the woods wh ere the wolves and bears will be much nicer to her?thankyou for your prose \, You expose a key point in black history in the usa\, and how black peop le are to blame for the current condition en large in the usa.I think aka is correct. as Nina Simone said\, black people are willing to march but no t willing to die\, she blamed malcolm/martin and others death on black peo ple in the usa\, saying they are willing to march but not die but you expo se the source of that choice and it isn't whites but black people in the p ast.05302026 MY ENLARGED@Troy11 hours ago\, Troy said:So you have no home? I said I am stateless\, whatever you are thinking\, please think it. but t he only answer i give to your query is i am stateless\, as I comprehend be ing stateless.@aka Contrarian8 hours ago\, aka Contrarian said:Black folks are masochistic\; like an abused wife who stays with her mate because - i t hurts so good.In the usa\, from 1492 to 1865 it was because the white ma te had the black wife chained/enslaved. A wife by force of male arms \, ch ained to the bed\, she can't go anywhere.From 1865 to 1980 was a critical time. That time dictated the wife today. From 1865 to 1965 the white mate kept the chain on by force of arms but made up rules justifying it to the mate. From 1965 to 1980\, the white mate had kept the black wife chained s o long\, he started to let her off the chain but the years on the chain di d their work. Many abused women after enough time accept the abuse without being policed or forced in the house.From 1980 to 2026/modernity your des cription is a good summary for blacks in the usa \, simply because\, from 1492 to 2026 the usa has been a terror for 95% of black people by no fault of their own while a fault of the environment of the usa or the european colonies that precede it that are white controlled.If you look at okinawan s / the romani or gypsies\, many peoples on earth who have been enslaved t o a more dominant populace for centuries \, no longer need to be cghained to remain in the house so to speak. Look at NAtive Americans in the usa . No people are more stateless or abused than native americans in the usa. M ost people in the usa literally go to school hearing how native americans were in these lands beofre anyone else and were opposed to the european co lonies or the usa in majority and yet\, most people act like the native am erican was praying for the constitution and amultiracial society of people s from around the world. so... it happens.James Forten \, again\, he fough t alongside george washignton\, ablack business owner\, who could not be i gnorant that 99% of black people in the usa were enslaved\, and would stil l be enslaved if the usa was created. And yet\, he fought for the creation of the usa. so.. IF anything part of the wife's problem is a part of her body\, a small part but very influential to her body\, yearns to be contro lled by her mate.@Pioneer15 hours ago\, Pioneer1 said:Black Americans aren 't masochistic.\nMost don't like the current situation but don't know of a ny BETTER options.\n\nWhat is an abused wife to do?\nLeave her abusive hus band and go live out in the woods where the wolves and bears will be much nicer to her?You know what is sad\, and I wonder @aka Contrarian thoughts to the following...Before the war between the states\, started\, Frederick Douglass and HArriet Tubman had a schism/problem. HArriet Tubman wanted B lack people to go as far away from the usa as possible\, to the then\, fro zen north of canada. But Douglass wanted black people to stay in the usa.N ow\, comprehend this is before the war between the states. so Frederick Do uglass literally wants black people to stay in a country where they are le gally enslaved and not go to a country where they would not be legally ens laved.Why am I saying this? First thank you for getting me to think on thi s. But\, beyond that\, you always talk about better options\, but the Blac k people like frederick Douglass who publicly admitted\, he didn't want bl ack people freed from slavery in the usa to leave to canada or haiti or me xico or anywhere\, even though he knew in haiti or canada or mexico for wh atever poverty black freed people would face\, \, they would be legally fr ee.I think in cheap retrospect\, it answers Aka Contrarians point about th e abused wife. At the end of the day\, in the 1800s white people in the us a\, didn't want black people to leave. and all the leaders who supported s taying in the usa in an integrated\, and sequentially abusable way to whit es: douglass/dubois the younger/booker t /ida b wells were supported by wh ites\, and those who advocated leaving: garvey or segregation exodusters w ere hindered by whites to destroy their movements.But\, it leads to the tr uth\, black leaders who supported black people remaining in the usa in the critical time circa 1865 \, aided by whites\, were able to get the largre r black populace to stay put even though in the 1800s no black person coul d argue betterment in the usa over canada or mexico or haiti or really any where else.Yes\, in modernity \, 2026 \, an argument can be made\, but the black populace of today\, reached today because in the past we didn't do what harriet tubman suggested and leave as much as possible outside the us a. And yes\, she died in the usa\, but she was an old woman whose family h ad chosen to settle in the usa\, so she did.But\, yeah\, you and many blac k people always speak of bette roptions but even when better options were available\, in the late 1800s\, black people advocated for staying in the usa.The wife had an idea in her head absent merit but supported by the hus band\, that the house of the abusive white husband was no better than the neighbors even when the neighbors actually didn't have chains for her.And\ , again\, no one today can go back in the past\, no one can. The past can not be changed. bUT again\, the assessment of the past is wrong by many bl ack people.Black leadership simply failed Pioneer at a critical stage\, la te 1800s. I can use other peoples as my example.The taiwanese real problem is chang kai check\, fled to formosa\, and instead of making a path to tr uly unite with head bowed to mao's china\, he set up the idea that taiwan was the true continuity of china\, even though he himself knew\, that not to be true. Negative leadership has massive consequences for any people. W hen I look at the jucnture of africa/asia/europe\, the middle east\, i sea a horde of bad leaderhsip from external + internal agents. People long de ad but the influence of what they did lingers.Black people in the usa are living with the consequences of the choices of black leaderhsip in the mid to late 1800s.So yes\, arguably\, Black DOSers have no better option fina ncially \, than the usa. in 2026\, but better options existed in the past and black leaders\, with white support\, successfully made blacks en large choose wrong.Thank you and Aka contrarian.Going forward\, I think as some one said in this forum\, i forget who and paraphrase \, that the modern bl ack immigrant is the future of the black populace in the usa. In cheap ret rospect i concur\, because\, Black DOSers are in a trap of their own makin g. Black DOS leaders\, not all\, but most\, gambled our populace on the US A being something it will never be\, being something black DOSers are will ing to wait happily for\, or work through all walls to reach. They chose p oorly. But the modern black immigrants approach the usa as the whites and most others\, a people who have never been enslaved\, and willingly come t o the usa. As the black populace mixes in itself\, DOSers side modern immi grants and other blacks\, it will create the change.So all will be well\, it will take time. and Blacl DOS heritage in the usa will combine with bla ck modern immigrant to make a new black culture in the usa that will suit the usa better.05312026 https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/12742-favourite-black-i ntellectuals/#findComment-81728@ProfD 1 hour ago\, ProfD said:How would e nslaved Black folks born in the USA during the 1800s have known any differ ent or better?Since you don't know all I can say is\, keep that truth and the rest of your views. All I will say is I know and I differ.05312026 EXT ENDED COMMENT@ProfD1 hour ago\, ProfD said:How would enslaved Black folks born in the USA during the 1800s have known any different or better?During the 1800s\, I doubt that enslaved Black folks were receiving postcards &a mp\; letters from free Black folks letting them know life was better in ot her countries. 😁As I mentioned in another thread\, despite its warts\, the USA must not be that bad considering it seems to an immigration destin ation for people from all over the planet.Black people in the 1800s knew o f canada through simple communication as human beings\, people gossip\, ev en the enslaved\, who were denied the right to write or read could still t alk and overheard and gossiped and whispered. Again the one constant betwe en black people who call the usa home is how most keep all their viewpoint s of everythingt o justify their position in any way possible\, like they are trying to convince it through. 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