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SUMMARY:Democratic Socialist- Mamdani part 2
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DESCRIPTION:In part 1 I assessed Mayor Mamdani's laws in the legislative
	 bodies of New york city.https://aalbc.com/tc/events/event/363-zohran-mamd
	ani-legislation/As mayor he supported three members of the democratic soci
	alist against members of the party of andrew jackson who are not.Darializa
	 Avila Chevalier defeated Adriano EspaillatBrad Lander defeated Dan Goldma
	nClaire Valdez defeated Antonio ReynosoWhen I look at Mamdani I see a cont
	inuation from Obama through Schrumpf.Obama who couldn't win an illinois se
	at focusing on the black vote\, won by splitting the black and white vote 
	and that led to support from very wealthy donors which undid Hillary Clint
	on's run.As president Obama was brilliant at speaking\, commercials\, adve
	rtising\, appearance but was woeful as a legislator\, a maker of laws. the
	 laws he made were not only poor but dysfunctional.Obama inspired a bunch 
	of people who are what I will call\, aracial americans: OCasio Cortez + Or
	lhan and others do commercials for certain cultures but in truth are Stati
	ans\, of the usa. They are more comfortable in the multiracial malaise of 
	racially mixed zones of cities in modern USA than the racially aligned zon
	es that afix most of the usa.Ocasio Cortez and others\, prompted laws in c
	ongress but none of them were able to get the support of the majority in c
	ongress\,Then Schrumpf did what Obama did in the party of andrew jackson a
	nd broke through the methodology in theparty of abraham lincoln. Where Oba
	ma \, focused on splitting all the phenotypical votes and focusing on the 
	aracial voters\, usually younger. Schrumpft \, ignored the hawks\, calling
	 for isolation\, ignored the christian\, admittedly calling for pussied to
	 be grabbed\, and focused on the poor end of the fiscals\, by touting amer
	ica first.Schrumpf like AOC before him and Obama before her\, is a poor le
	gislator.Now\, more will join AOC in the congress\, and from my standing t
	he speeches will get more sharp\, the polish of appearance will be great\,
	 but the legislation is more deadlocked than ever. So\, I don't see any ne
	w laws coming from the congress of the usa unless\, a coalition is made be
	tween the anti schrumpt + democratic socialists in the congress. But with 
	lobbying I don't see how. the jewish lobby is the biggest loser and the de
	mocratic socialist + many schrumpt + ant schrumpf folk\, seem very disinte
	rested in supporting israel.As I said with Obama\, and AOC\, and Schrumpft
	 \, I said with MAmdani and his local crew. What are your laws and if your
	 laws are impotent \, which means don't get results\, that will lead to a 
	negative reaction among the common folk. And\, then they participate less 
	and less. The most important thing to note about the elections in the dink
	ey primaries was these were low turnout. It wasn't that a majority of peop
	le voted. It is that\, a minority voted\, but that minority vote was split
	. Which means\, the voters are looking at these candidates carefully and a
	ny failure will be problematic.INFOhttps://www.npr.org/2026/06/23/nx-s1-58
	68676/mamdani-nyc-primaries-progressive-dsaFORUM POSThttps://aalbc.com/tc/
	topic/12801-dsa-2026/CONTENTMamdani and the democratic socialistAFTER READ
	ING THE COMMENTS BELOW AND SEEING IN HINDSIGHTMost in this group saw the r
	ise of Mamdani\, especially as a democratic socialist. Though only I conne
	cted his style to that of Schrumpf + Obama. For I don't see any difference
	 between either of them. All three are very good at media campaigning\, th
	e key to getting elected\, but none are actually good at legislation. The 
	problem Obama+AOC+SChrumpft+MAndani+Chevalier and all their peers have is 
	... I will not say. But\, the elected official who doesn't do the one thin
	g they all do\, will open a true can of worms\, completely inevitable or f
	oresightful at this point.COMMENTS TO DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISM2016 this was sa
	id by @Pioneer1Bernie Sanders says some good things but too many of his su
	pporters are pushing Socialism...or what many of his supports call \"Democ
	ratic Socialism\"....which will not work for Black America because too muc
	h socialism will make our people lazy.\nI've seen too many talented Black 
	men and women who grew up thinking they could \"slick\" their way through 
	life by hustling and pimping the system until they could somehow get a soc
	ial security or disablity check for a few hundred dolllars....then they're
	 satisified.\nBut in a properly managed economy\,  if they were pushed to
	 use just HALF of the good sense God gave them many of them would be milli
	onaires by now.\nOn the other hand we don't need unbridled Capitalism eith
	er because it will lead to the type of exploitation and despotism you see 
	brewing in the United State today that locks so many poor AfroAmericans ou
	t of the economy and creates a \"permanent underclass\".\nSOME things that
	 people depend on for their very livelihood like healthcare and education 
	should be socialized.\nOther things should not.\nI'm not hating on Bernie.
	\nI think he'd probably be a better President from a domestic policy point
	 of view than Hillary and I KNOW he'd be better than Trump.\nBut we have t
	o learn that what works for OTHERS will not necessarily work for us.\nWhat
	 we need as AfroAmericans is a system uniquely designed BY us...FOR us\; a
	nd if not implimented by a Black politician in an executive position such 
	as President or Governor....atleast whoever does get in office while respe
	ct our agenda and integrate it into his/her Administration.citationhttps:/
	/aalbc.com/tc/topic/3678-this-or-that/#comment-164112022 thsi was said by 
	@StefanThe Democrats are about to get their backsides waxed in this year's
	 midterm elections. Several mistakes are to blame and most are unforced er
	rors.\n1) Too many Black people remain ignorant of what Critical Race Theo
	ry actually is. It's not Black History\, although many well-meaning Black 
	folks claim that it is. And sadly\, they cling to this errant view on soci
	al media.\nBut Critical Race Theory is NOT Black History\, which is a coll
	ection of truths and facts. Theories are simply suppositions.\nI will main
	tain that CRT is taught only at the university level not in grade\, interm
	ediate or any high schools.\nThe problem lies in that few have come up wit
	h a ONE SENTENCE description of exactly what Critical Race Theory is.\nMos
	t who try to explain it employ 50-cent word verbiage which average readers
	 in the U.S. have a hard time understanding since most read at a 7th and 8
	th grade level.\nOthers dance around it claiming: \"Oh\, it's been around 
	for 40 years and such and such.” Long-winded explanations do little to c
	lear the air.\nSo\, I fashioned a one-sentence retort that can be shoved i
	n the face of CRT detractors.\nBecause the GOP and its supporters have bee
	n killing us on messaging while we've gleefully surrendered the intellectu
	al landscape by choosing to scream dumb chit such as \"Defund the Police!\
	"\nOh\, yeah\, what a winning slogan that was.\nHere is my one sentence de
	scription of CRT:\nCritical Race Theory is a premise that posits skin colo
	r and race determine the outcomes of most decisions\, laws and behavior in
	 the U.S.\nThat's it! That is the one sentence description. And this one l
	ine should have been tossed back at those White racists who have been skew
	ering us with attacks on the social term \"woke.\" This is why we have lo
	st the Messaging War. And CRT is going to be used by millions upon million
	s of racist and angry Whites\, Latinos and some Blacks to clobber the Demo
	crats at the polls in November. \n2) Refusal to acknowledge Bernie Sander
	s' push for so-called Democratic Socialism has failed miserably.\nFar too 
	many folks are still drunk on Bernie's Kool-Aid. I keep running into folks
	 who swear the solution to everything is Socialism. As if this canard of e
	conomic belief has been successful in any modern society or nation. Howeve
	r\, by listening to this aged clown Bernie\, AOC and her merry band of knu
	ckleheads threw in all their social wants and desires into the Build Back 
	Better bill\, completely guaranteeing that no one\, except maybe Kim Jong-
	Un\, would go for it. The bill had to be reworked a few times before the H
	ouse took a vote.\nThat's why it failed. BBB contained too too much\, woul
	d cost too much and proved far too ambitious for most legislators and pund
	its. But you can't tell Bernie Bots anything. They truly believe they were
	 sent from on high to rule. Yeah\, okay. \nIn addition to having a new Vo
	ting Rights Bill fail\, Black people are now going to have to contend with
	 even more Red states preparing their own voter suppression laws. \nGotta
	 hand it to all those dumb-azz 2016 third party voters. By denying Hillary
	 Clinton their votes\, they enabled Trump to squeak by in enough states to
	 win him the White House. I doubted Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg would have
	 survived the first term of whomever won in 2016. She didn't. And this gav
	e Trump a chance to appoint three toadies to the Supreme Court. \nI belie
	ve more than 10% of Bernie Bots voted for Trump in 2016. Some news outlets
	 peg it higher. Even if most return to the Dems this year\, we're still go
	ing to lose in November.\ncitationhttps://aalbc.com/tc/topic/8362-the-gop-
	blowout-is-coming/#comment-49238from 2022 from @anonymous50 Is it possibl
	e for an individual\, not politician (because most of them are well off an
	yway)\, to believe in Democratic Socialism when they are financially succe
	ssful.                                Sure\, when a person
	 is financially struggling\, Socialist programs are very appealing. For ex
	ample. politicians like Bernie Sanders\, Elizabeth Warren\, and AOC promis
	e free college tuition and socialized healthcare that won't bankrupt an in
	dividual when they get sick. In some instances very progressive candidates
	  promise to abolish student loan debt\,  which can be very devastating 
	to someone who owes such debt. They also promise higher taxes on the rich 
	to pay for these social programs.                        
	         But\, to the dusty* who remains in poverty this does not matt
	er.                                  They look upon the r
	ich as having too much anyway.                           
	      Part of it is class envy and the other part is realism.  The so-
	call 99 percent who look at the extremely wealthy 1 percent class with the
	ir palatial manors\, Rolls Royces\, private jets\, yachts\, and access to 
	some of the most beautiful women in the world know that all of these luxur
	ies are beyond their reach in this lifetime.               
	                 I know some  would call this a poverty mind
	set.                                Most people don't have
	 the drive\, ambition\, skills and patience to become rich.       
	                         The paths to riches are limited anywa
	y. Most start up businesses fail after a short period of time. You stand a
	 greater chance of being struck by lighting twice than winning the lottery
	. Many get-rich-quick schemes advertised in the mail\, online\, or TV(info
	mercials) don't work. Only a small number of Pookies and Ray Rays from the
	 hood  who aspire to become rappers or baller are successful. People who 
	go to Hollywood to find themselves seldom become the next big movie stars.
	                                So\, the poor dusty who st
	ruggles from paycheck to paycheck to barely put food on the table looks at
	 the astronomical wealth and toys the 1 percent has and thinks \"why shoul
	d  they not be willing to have their wealth redistributed to help those w
	ho are less fortunate.\"                                 
	But\, when a person is able to lift themselves out of poverty and become w
	ealthy\, is he or she still willing to give up a certain percentage of inc
	ome through taxation to fund the programs that person once relied upon whe
	n he or she was destitute?  Some politicians would like to impose a 40 pe
	rcent tax rate on the well-to-do.                         
	      *To use online urban vernacular\, a dusty is a man(usually a blac
	k man) who is low quality\, poor\, broke\, and has no ambition      
	                          citationhttps://aalbc.com/tc/topic
	/9335-an-affluent-democratic/from 2025 from @ProfDThis young man\, Zohran 
	Mamdani\, is the breath of fresh air the Democratic party needs.  Mamdan
	i's positions on social and justice reform\, city services\, Israel and Je
	ws\, etc.\, may be considered radical.  He makes it no secret that he's a
	 diehard Democratic socialist. I believe his connections to a wide cross-
	section of people (FBA/ADOs\, Muslim\, Arab\, African\, Hispanic\, Asian\,
	 etc.) and affiliation with the Hip-Hop community among others will propel
	 him to becoming the most popular candidate on the ballot.Regardless of wh
	ether or not Zohran Mamdani is elected mayor of NYC\, he actually has a pl
	an for how he wants to run the city.  Mamdani's plan could be a blueprint
	 for the Democratic party to overtake the GOP. 😎citationhttps://aalbc.
	com/tc/topic/11698-if-you-want-to-know-more-about-mamdani/#comment-74720fr
	om 2025 from @Mel HopkinsIf the NYC mayoral race were a novel\, I'd decons
	truct its architecture. From one election to the next\, the narrative appe
	ars to shift away from focused policy debates\, instead centering on the i
	nfluence of religious groups. The major religious factions—Christian nat
	ionalists\, Muslims\, and Jews—each appear to compete for cultural and p
	olitical dominance within the city.\nAmid this religious competition\, the
	 African diaspora in the U.S.—a powerful and often underestimated voting
	 bloc—continues to be overlooked and taken for granted by both the candi
	dates and the dominant religious groups.  \nIt sometimes seems as though 
	these competing religious groups neglect the African diaspora’s influenc
	e. Ironically\, the roots of these religions trace back to African science
	-based spirituality\, yet this connection receives little attention in pol
	itical or religious discourse.\nThis dynamic played out in Election 2024: 
	Christian nationalists—including evangelists\, southern Baptists\, and l
	ikely Catholics—rallied strongly behind DJT. Media and external influenc
	ers shifted the conversation away from local policy and toward polarizing 
	international issues\, like the U.S. stance on Israel and Palestine\, furt
	her affecting how voters chose among domestic candidates.\nWhen reviewing 
	2025 election results\, I noticed Mamdani was not the only Muslim elected\
	, which raises the question of whether heightened coverage of Gaza led to 
	greater sympathy and increased Muslim representation—a trend potentially
	 extending into the midterms.\nDon’t misunderstand—I bear a grudge aga
	inst all religions. Religious study should bring wisdom\, spirituality\, a
	nd growth\, yet it often has the opposite effect. Religions lead to violen
	ce instead of joy and peace. Add patriarchy\, and it’s chaos.Returning t
	o the story's structure: Is this a narrative of democratic socialism risin
	g in the heart of Wall Street? Consider Manhattan—the FINANCIAL CAPITAL 
	OF THE WORLD—and its boroughs. Is the city that never sleeps really read
	y to move from capitalism to social ownership? Notably\, NYC is the larges
	t property owner according to Curbed.com\, and the mayor administers these
	 assets. Perhaps social ownership is the underlying story arc behind recen
	t shifts.\nSo\, in this story—call it Project 2025 (S)—the central fig
	ure is a young millennial poised to challenge the reigning power and recla
	im Manhattan for the people. Behind the scenes\, religious struggle\, huma
	n trafficking disguised as immigration reform\, and pervasive surveillance
	 set the chaotic stage for change in the city.  \nMeet the Muslim and Ara
	b Americans who won in US local elections\nJews vote for Andrew Cuomo over
	 Zohran Mamdani in NYC mayoral race | The Jerusalem Post\"In addition to t
	he Jewish vote\, Mamdani lost the Catholic vote by a significant margin: 5
	3% supported Cuomo and 14% backed Sliwa\, against 33% for Mamdani.A deci
	sive 75% of voters with no religious affiliation supported Mamdani.\"\n\nH
	ere's a past look at Manhattan when DJT began buying up NY property in the
	 early 70s(?) a look back at Palestinians\, Israel\, Libya\, etc.  https
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