BEGIN:VCALENDAR VERSION:2.0 PRODID:-//InvisionCommunity Events 5.0.18//EN METHOD:PUBLISH CALSCALE:GREGORIAN REFRESH-INTERVAL:PT15M X-PUBLISHED-TTL:PT15M X-WR-CALNAME:RMCommunityCalendar NAME:RMCommunityCalendar BEGIN:VTIMEZONE TZID:Europe/London TZURL:https://tzurl.org/zoneinfo/Europe/London X-LIC-LOCATION:Europe/London BEGIN:DAYLIGHT TZOFFSETFROM:+0000 TZOFFSETTO:+0100 TZNAME:BST DTSTART:20260329T020000Z RRULE:FREQ=YEARLY;BYMONTH=3;BYDAY=-1SU END:DAYLIGHT BEGIN:STANDARD TZOFFSETFROM:+0100 TZOFFSETTO:+0000 TZNAME:GMT DTSTART:20261025T020000Z RRULE:FREQ=YEARLY;BYMONTH=10;BYDAY=-1SU END:STANDARD END:VTIMEZONE BEGIN:VEVENT SUMMARY:Economic Corner 42 07/26/2026 DTSTAMP:20260727T011948Z SEQUENCE:0 UID:787-7-c3fe8195a3dde498d013e477e2142422@aalbc.com ORGANIZER;CN="richardmurray":noreply@aalbc.com DESCRIPTION:Pioneer1 [ https://aalbc.com/tc/profile/5568-pioneer1/] aske d me to look at a video at a specific time index\, to go into his position that universal basic income is a trap.his posthttps://aalbc.com/tc/topic/ 12838-universal-income-trap/MY PRIMARY THOUGHTScontentI wonder if Pioneer1 heard when the interviewee said he doesn't believe in class?That reminds me of Troy not believing in race. Class/race/rank/clan/grouping/peoples/sp ecies/gender/community are all the same\, words meaning sets of things bas ed on some factor.If he doesn't believe in class\, then he doesn't believe in rich and poor? what?then he says \"They\" and I didn't listen to the w hole thing\, but I assume he didn't clarify who they are \,but he says \"t hey\" want to make a permanent underclass.Well\, What does that mean? Is n ot the fiscal poor a permanent class in fiscal capitalism? can fiscal capi talism exists without the fiscal poor?Is he suggesting fiscal capitalism d oesn't require the poor in modernity? I argue if you take all of humanity\ , that argument has no basis what's so ever in fianncial reality in humani ty\, on the whole planet earth\, in the past five centirues.Is he suggesti ng that \"they\" \, whomever they are\, want to eliminate the commonly nam ed but falsely labeled\, Upward Mobility?Again\, simple fiscal history pro ves people moving from lower to higher financial evaluations\, whether tha t is up or not\, has never been a majority movement among the fiscal poor. Then I finally get some clarification on the \"they\" he calls them the sh adow people. They are not shadow people\, they are the one percent\, they have always existed . We used to call them kings and queens in various lan guages. The USA with its individualism aside criminal suggestion to public proclamations of blood right from those who have the most potent levels o f wealth or governmental influence has led to this definition of the power ful as some shadow peoples. The heads of the pack will always exists among humans\, whether they are publicly advertised or not.Then he suggests \"t hey\" meaning the fiscal wealthiest want to delete the commonly while fals ely called \" middle class\" and push them into the poor class.Well first\ , I have in the economic corner always challenges the idea of the financia l middle class. I argue\, the financial middle class has never existed.The re are have's and have nots. Their are rich and poor. But even in the time s of the pharoah the rich or the poor the haves or the have nots have rang es.The pharoach isn't the only one with fiscal wealth. the head priest\, t he lead scribe\, the military head are all have's. They are not the pharoa h but they are have's. In the same way \,The penniless beggar's floating f rom town to town are not the only fiscal poor. The farmer's living season to season. The minors\, the sculptors\, the shopkeepers\, are all poor. No they are not as poor as the penniless beggar but they are poor.Debt in th e usa circa 2025 was at seventeen trillion and five hundred billion dollar s. The USA has a military\, nuclear powered military\, which protects the usa from debt collection \,it is that simple. This is why nuclear power co untries : usa/russia/china/india/pakistan/france/england/israel all work t o lessen other countries from joining the club. the club has financial ben efits.If someone ows one hundred thousand dollars they are poor. I don't c are that they have a two bed room house and and a car and whatever else. H Ave's don't have debt they can't handle. This is why Musk can get loans fr om the bank when fiscal poor people can not\, his wealth\, no matter how a rithmetic it is\, it isn't in solid value\, means he can cover his debts.h ttps://www.consumeraffairs.com/finance/average-american-debt-statisitics.h tmlHe makes the sars cov 2 financial situation more complicated than it wa s. I have said this a trillion times over\, many fiscal firms in the usa a re not positive. If you look at the cost of operation and the revenue\, th ey require a constancy of funds and don't have any way to handle a time ab sent financial income. A better example is sports teams. Small business ar e obvious but few think about how most sports teams in the usa were able t o get millions or in come cases billions of dollars to cover their debt or financial failure with the suspension of fiscal activities. But what they means is those businesses were poorly run. Again\, Goldman sachs is deeme d some sort of arithmetic genuis place for financial manipulations or calc ulations but they went bankrupt by using evaluations from various private banks that they didn't fully comprehend or control and when said banks act ivities put said bansk in the red they dragged the goldman's of the world down with them. But\, while small businesses are told they have to be bett er\, goldman and company were given welfare checks becaus egoldman and com pany have the accounts of the wealthy who also went bankrupt with them. So \, the key is financial mismanagement led by a country\, the usa\, who is safe from debt collection through its military power.he says the fiscal we althy have ways of avoiding being taxed\, well the way has a clear name\, poorly constructed financial law. Now some will say\, the law will be done that way cause of the way the law is\, but that is more unnecessary vague ness. Lobby's entire fucntion is to pay elected officials to make laws fav aorable to their clients needs. And whenanyone says\, lets end lobbies\, a ll of a sudden\, you have unity among the left /right/male/female/white/bl ack/immigrant/native american /et cetera because the business of lobbies i s the real backbone of the financial design of the usa. It isn't hard\, it isn't shadow people. The usa military has lobbies. the nypd has lobbies t he hospitals have lobbies. all groups with money have lobbies. and those l obbie smake sure the fiscal laws have loopholes.So the issue is lobbies\, not \"ways\"As I have said in other economic corners\, this is inevitable. He words it as an assault\, it isn't an assault. The labor pool can not m aintain the populace in the usa or the larger humanity.Are human beings ne eded to build computer chips/cars/planes/turn iron into steel. Automation requires human design \, or the computers that design automation were them selves designed by humans straightly or through the lineage of computers t hat designed them.But\, the building is becoming less and less human. So w hat jobs are needeD? nurse? can everybody be a nurse? law enforcer? can ev erybody be a law enforcer? It isnt' an attack\, it is an inevitability bas ed on the technological possibility in modernity.The real problem as I hav e said many times over isn't the deletion of human laborers\, it is the a deletion of the myth of the earned laborer lifestyle.The whole merit labor philosophy no longer serves an honest function. You can't ask people to b e civil\, absent criminal activity\, while telling them they must be fisca lly poor. The speaker in the video an dothers who go against the universal basic income have no solution for the lack of labor opportunity\, except for\, something will come up\, which means nothing.The jobs are gone. The usa's best time for the job market was during enslavement when non blacks forced blacks to labors\, absent any pay or amenities or descency comparab le to the value of the labors. the quantity of workers has only decreased since those times in the usa\, remembering famring is labor.So absent univ ersal basic income\, with the real estate and stock market and banking ind ustries and health industry and scholastic industry designed as they are\, in an ever increasing financial value to acquire\, how can people pay for healthcare/schools/rent/food absent a grander welfare program?Then he adm its jobs are dying as computers and mechincal bodies are the majority work force. but he makes it seem like some negative scheme..He is wrong in one thing\, the usa federal government has been considering this since the 196 0s when it was already clear the job market long term wouldn't be able to provide the opportunity for the populace to sustain the market needs of fi rms: hospital/schools/residentials/et ceterahttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Universal_basic_income#Pilot_programs_and_experimentshttps://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Universal_basic_income_pilotshttps://www.wbur.org/onpoint/2024/08 /19/universal-guaranteed-income-experiment-economyIn defense\, not all the people or most of the people supporting universal basic income are sugges ting it comes with fealty . I can't recall one of the pilot programs happe ning with fealty \, so he is trying to act prescient.MY THOUGHTS TO HIM ST RAIGHTcontent@Pioneer1 you say Universal basic income is a trap aligning t o his stated position that universal basic income will force people to adh ere to whatever government mandates or policies to retain the money needed for them to survive in the usa\, in which their rent\, food\, clothing\, ehalthcare\, schools\, holiday costs are more than most can afford.Now whi le I contest his attempt at prescience\, assuming universal basic income w ill come with fealty of a petty nature\, let us assume it will happen. Ok. Then the fears you or he have are warranted with the assumption. But\, le t us look at the environment\, the financial environment in the usa?Now he admitted in the very same video that the labor market for humans in the u sa is dwindling. He admitted it. Now\, it is also commonly comprehended th at ninety percent of wealth in the usa is inherited\, meaning\, acquired b y geniture\, or bloodline descendency. It si also commonly known that nine ty percent of the wealth is in the hands f a one percent ... sometimes one percent of a one percent.Sooverwhelming majority of wealth being inherite d +most wealth in an extremely small percentage of the populace\,+a dying human labor fiscal need =the fiscal sitaution in the usa todaysaid fiscal situation in the usa today +univeral basic income = maintenance of the cur rent system of debt\, wealth\, inheritance\, market manipulation or struct ures. or cost in various industries.Absent this elevated welfare\, what do you propose for people to do to pay for rent/food.healthcare? I didn't li sten to the whole video but he didn't offer solutions.Are you suggesting f iscal poor people kill themselves? yeah ok\, I know a number of blacks thr oughout the years\, all ages\, have said that. Most in humanity will never do it. Do you know why I know? nothing black people went through in the u sa was harder than legal enslavement on the mind + body+ spirit and yet th ey as humans foun ways to survive\, not thrive\, but survive such that the y didn't kill themselves. Even if that meant being a shell or empty vessel just breathing till you die. But they didn't kill themselves.Most humans will not kill themselves today and especially with the option of Universal basic income.The problem with every single person opposed to universal ba sic income is the absence of an alternative from them.you say it is a trap but I still think it is an inevitability based on the environment.I live in NYC\, the rent is too high\, the food is too hgih\, the healthcare is t oo high. Now you can sya\, people should move. But\, move where? Is los an geles cheap? is louisiana safe? Remember\, right now\, the carpet industry \, based in georgia\, has multiple lawsuits from white people \, fiscal po or white people\, from south carolina to alabama\, over their air and wate r being cancer causing for decades\, at least fifty years easy.Moving isn' t going to help most people in the usa.Then the learn skills argument . Bu t here is the problem with the skills argument. the history of labor in th e usa proves labor was never given for skills\, that is another myth in th e usa.Black people were used as enslaved labor not because of merit or the ir skills but cheapness\, affordability. The second legal ensalvement ende d\, circa 1865\, white people went about entrapping black people in bad co ntracts which whether legal or illegal were expensive to contest in a cour t of law and since 99% of black person born before 1965 in the usa had no money \, no financial inheritance\, they had no money to afford the legal fees necessary to challenge all the legal traps whtite people terrorized b lack people into from 1865 to 1980.When the immigration act came in the mi d nineteen hundred and sixties\, the whites used uneducated immigrants\, n ot because of skills but because of cheapness of labor.The use of robots/c omputer programs/machines of various levels began taking over human labore rs in the usa before said electronics were a skillwise replacement for hum an labor.So what is the answer?At the end of the day\, all movements anywh ere in humanity to be stopped need an alaternative and in absence of the a lterantive\, the movement will kee moving to its inevitability.POST URL ht tps://aalbc.com/tc/topic/12838-universal-income-trap/#findComment-82737PRI OR EDITIONhttps://aalbc.com/tc/events/event/760-economic-corner-41-0621202 6/NEXT EDITIONhttps://aalbc.com/tc/events/event/794-economic-corner-43-080 42026/COMMENTARY7292026 https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/12838-universal-income- trap/#findComment-82789contentpioneer1On 7/27/2026 at 8:30 PM\, Pioneer1 s aid:That's what the \"public option\" was supposed to offer\, but your boy Obama cut that out of his Obamacare deal.the affordable care act was from nancy pelosi\, not obama so it should be called pelosicareand it wasn't o bama who cut it out\, the congress did. Obama told pelosi whatever she cou ld get through congress he would sign\, and he did. PElosi couldn't get th e votes without the public option going away. The reason was simple\, the usa is a country of over three hundred and fifty million people cut up in fifty states that are uneven financially.What that means is\, healthcare a nd the cost of living shifts from state to state and from region to region in states\, thus the affordable care act\, trying to make healthcare affo rdable for all the fiscal poor in the usa while in fifty different financi al regions which are themselves cut up into various fiscal zones is a hard challenge.Many donkeys opposed the public option which people don't reali ze\, because healthcare is different in each state.On 7/27/2026 at 8:30 PM \, Pioneer1 said:Petition their respective governments to provide these ba sic necessities for it's citizens in a limited and strategic way so that n obody goes without them and this will provide a decent \"competition\" wit h private sources to discourage them from raising the prices too high.hasn 't the whole world been petitioning? when you say petition what do you mea n? people write letters the government all the time? what do you mean by p etition? The UA doesn't allow for direct democracy to be applicable at the federal level so....On 7/27/2026 at 8:30 PM\, Pioneer1 said:But millions DID NOT survive....they succumbed.well with at least over ninety percent o f black people enslaved from 1492 to 1865 in the lands that make up the mo dern usa\, I am certain all those enslaved in said period survived.On 7/27 /2026 at 8:30 PM\, Pioneer1 said:The answer is for AfroAmericans to carve out a piece of America to focus our political and economic power on and tr y to control as much of our collective destiny as we can instead of relyin g on the ideas and schemes of Whites to save us.\n\nWe should try to get a s much political and legal power as we can.\nThat way if UBI becomes a rea lity here in the United States\, we can atleast control:\n....how much of it we get.\n....what terms and conditions must be met for individuals to g et it.ok \,1) carve out a piece of the usa in which one historically impot ent populace within the usa has governmental + financial power to control its destiny2)if UBI gets implemented \, in said carved out piece\, said hi storically impotent populace will be able to dictate how ubi will relateYo ur plan is not impossible \, but it requires alot of considerations.1) wha t percent of black people are not interested in carving out a piece of the usa. whatever percent that is \, is a deterrent. I can't say how large bu t it will include\, all black individualist\, which has a long history in the usa\, these are black people who simply do for themselves as individua ls \, and view collective black life through the lens of black individuals . Some black people will be part of other black groups that will oppose ca rving a piece out of the usa. so black donkeys[ party of andrew jackson] b lack elephants[ party of abraham lincoln] all the black wealthy whose fina ncial wealth is tied to an integrated existence with the non black\, black integrationists\, who have along history in the usa\, who want mixed comm unities\, they don't want individualism but they want black populaces to c oexist intermingled with the nonblack. I am missing many others of course\ , but I can easily assume\, maybe twenty percent of the populace of black people in the usa will be willing to carve out a piece of the usa for gove rnmental plus financial control.2) beyond who among the blacks will be par t of this\, what part of the usa is to be carved out?2-A) for a piece of t he usa to have the power to relate to federal law on its own\, it must be a state in the union. I restate\, Universal basic income will be a federal action \, the only legal way to dictte how any federal action relates to a particular region is for a place to be a state. countis or cities don't have the legal power to relate to federal law. This is why NYC continually begs NY state for money. Even though NYC is the engine\, the federal gove rnment gives money to new york state so nyc \, even though it earns most o f the money\, ike los angeles with california\, \, new york city has to be g new york state for money. So\, the only way to make a distinct relations hip to a federal law under the current constitution is to be astate in the union. cities nor counties have the power. So\, what state will this be?2 -B)The whole purpose of Jim Crow in southern states was to get black peopl e to run out of the southern states so that black people would not have a majority populace in any state in the union. and no\, black people today a re not running into the likes of georgia\, mississippi\, south carolina or other So with no state having a majority black populace and each states\, majority non black populace 100% opposed to being the minority\, I don't see how you can get any state in the union to become majority black which can then allow the scenario you want.2-C) maybe you can get a state to spl it. The law in the usa allows a state to split if the state legislature + the congress approve. Based on this\, you only have four states with a bla ck populace percentage that can yield such a situation. Louisiana/Mississi ppi/Alabama/South Carolinaall other states black populaces are too small a percentage.The problem is all of those states legislatures have been engi neered to make sure black legislation in those states is a smaller percent age than the black population. And beyond that\, I doubt the white legisla tures in those states will ever vote for a split\, absent violence or mone y. Violence I doubt will be accepted by black people let alone non blacks\ , and money... well... the black wealthy will not finance such a movement for what I stated already so even if you get the numbers this will be a mo vement absent money so I don't see how it will be able to pay white electe d officials to support spliting a state\, not to mention paying the congre ssional members of various other states who will demand money as they have nothing to lose in saying no.It is possible to consider a movement of bla ck people to one of the sparsely populated northwest states\, ala exoduste rs\, but such a move will require money to move said black people and main tain them in a northwest state. But if you have the money It can be done. For example south dakota or north dakota or wyoming each have less than a million people. the poorest state in the union with at least a million bla ck people is mississippi. so if you had money\, you could move the million black people of mississppi to one of wyoming or northd akota or south dak ota and you would had a majority black state. All three of those states al ready offer land for sale. so even if the land is small and it forces an u rban existence\, the populance is the population and thus your strategy ma nfest.Your strategy isn't bad\, but it requires focus. It will not be a ma ss movement within the black populace of the usa\, that time has passed. I t can't involve violence cause black people aren't willing. So with it bei ng legal\, that narrows what can be done or where. But as I explained\, po ssible.content On 7/28/2026 at 6:17 PM\, frankster said:Did industrializat ion help or hinder us?AI is about to empower the individual way beyond wha t y'all thinking....franksterThe truth is\, all technology\, from the whee l to ionic pulse drives powered by nuclear fission reactors [ not science fiction\, both are being developed by the usa+russia as we type] has posit ive or negative effects\, no technology is all good or all bad. The proble m is humans when a technology benefit don't like to admit who isn't and wh en a technology malfit don't like to admit who isn't. It's always both.073 12026url https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/12838-universal-income-trap/#findComme nt-82804content22 hours ago\, frankster said:Yes Ionic drives are in use t oday and is no longer theoreticalWhat is moving from the realm of science fiction to theoretically feasible is Warp Drives....prototypes are being d eveloped as we type - though not to scale as of yet.franksterIonic drives haven't been theoretical since the early 1900s.well\, science fiction is t heory absent arithmetic support. but theoretical feasibility is determined based on what one decides feasibility comes from. From base feasibility o n arithmetics\, others on lab work\, others on fiscal capitalistic presenc e. so... in the current environment\, until any technology is in the fisca l capitalistic markets\, it is functionally unfeasible.When you say warp d rives\, do you mean warp space ? or do you mean attaining levels of speed significantly above the projected next new heights at the current time?exp andedNo tech is neutral\, all in nature is positive plus negative\, at the same time\, it isn't that anything is neutral \, but all things influence is collectively neutral as all things have positive plus negative emissio ns of force. By saying tech is neutral\, that is going inline with the dys functional philosophy that humans must investigate and learn new and seque ntially\, the learning of new isn't a negatibe\, but only the use. but the flaw in that thinking is the imbalance that a human being can be eternall y eager to learn something new\, gain knowledge or erudition but the same human being is unwilling to comprehend what is known and act in respect to that. To restate\, oppenheimer is to lame for making th eatom bomb\, not because the generals used it\, but because in his search to make nw tech h e didn't respect what he alreayd knew about the generals use of technology \, which means he rejected or ignored what knowledge he knew and what it m eant to acquire knowledge he didn't\, that is pure dysfunction and immatur ity. Acts of immaturity don't warrant evasion of criminal behavior.And his position on uranium proves immaturity. All nuclear fissions reactos\, inc luding molten salt reactors produce deadly toxic waste\, all of them\, I r epeat all of them. And it can not be avoided because of the science\, what is known. The problem is plus isn't the technology. Advocacy in the usa t ends to come with absence of criminality\, The usa is forgiven for enslave ment by its advocates. the various manufacturers are forgiven for making f ortunes or riaisng the financial power of the usa. Tech like juman beings does positive plus negative\, regardless of intention or nature. DTSTART;VALUE=DATE:20260727 RRULE:FREQ=YEARLY;INTERVAL=1 END:VEVENT END:VCALENDAR