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  1. Again, I'm thankful that you continue to support and provide this space for discussion. I haven't been around here as long as everyone else but I do enjoy reading you all and I'd hate to see this discussion forum shrivel up completely and/or go away.
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  2. Hope the day was enjoyable and your friends and family showered you with affection.
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  3. "The forum is under constant attract by trolls they are not extended invitations as some might believe. Most of the accounts that are created here are banned after they are created. I'm sure I've banned legitimate posters, but I find it is better be overly cautious rather than too lax. I don't remember when I approved your account @Michel Montvert, but most of the accounts I do approve never post." You just approved my account in the last 2 days. Yes what you're saying about the internet---sad but true. Oh I'm no troll. I'm just an old guy frustrated with the way the world is going looking for intelligent discourse. You are fighting an uphill battle, I say that not to discourage you but to say HOORAY for you for putting in all this effort. In my experience, ANY forum or chatroom labelled as "African-American" will attract Kluxers and other assorted racist scum. A Jewish forum attracts Nazis. Native American forums are crawling with white racists. It's sickening. This is not a Golden Age of civilization. sadly...
    3 points
  4. Thank you, Troy. OMG this forum is intelligent! Nearly all of the ones I find are just flame-war battlegrounds. I think it has always been true in the USA that African-Americans are in the forefront of the fight for justice which benefits all of us (I'm an Appalachian white). That was certainly true in the 60s (which I'm old enough to remember) and it's still true. So I'm happy to march with you, or engage in whatever form the struggle takes that I can manage at my age. We have a big battle impending, the possibility of that Orange Megalomaniac returning to power which in my opinion pushes us into full fascism. They'll be coming after black people, gays, progressives, immigrants, Muslims... oh hell and even women! This forum provides a very positive contribution to the struggle against that! Thanks!
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  5. Black women and men fight between ourselves over who has more of a right to freedom, instead of seeing each other's struggle as part of our own and vital to our common goals. Audre Lorde
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  6. Happy b'day @Cynique and wishing you many more. I know you get tired of reading the SOS (same ole sh8t) from some of us. Still, it's a blessing to have your presence, perspective, wisdom, wit and cynicism here. You make this forum an even cooler place to hang. Enjoy whatever you decide to do on your day.
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  7. The video is hilarious on several levels especially to someone like myself who finds humor in d8mn near everything. It's amazing that Black folks hold on to the goofiest BS left behind by their colonizers. Those wigs have always looked ridiculous even back in the 1700s. Unfortunately, AfroAmericans are spending a sh8t ton of money or hair and wigs nowadays. Many of them look just as ridiculous. In as much as some things change, a lot of it stays the same. Thank goodness I'm totally comfortable in my baldness.
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  8. This issue of who was "black" in ancient times can be very contentious, a reflection of the racism in our society which often affects peoples' interpretations of history. "Oh, they HAD to be black," or "Oh, they HAD to be white,"... and why? Because we want them to be one or the other. We have to define the terms if we pursue this. What does "black" mean? Here in the USA we labor under a one-drop notion that any discernible "blackness", evidence of African ancestry, makes one "black". So, if we saw an Egyptian from 3000 years ago who was actually 1/4 African, we'd call the person "black". Well, I had a friend who was caramel-colored, she went to Africa to visit, expected people to welcome her back home, and instead in Nigeria people laughed at her and called her "chicken flesh". To them she was essentially "white". Hmmm. so what does "black" mean? The Bible doesn't often mention skin color because it was not an issue then. They were not in the USA raised in this color-obsessed culture. What we know about Egypt, looking here at scientific data rather than the Bible, is that the civilization began in Upper Egypt among a mixture of Nile Valley Neolithics and Saharans. Both groups were African, which is to say, "black". Very quickly Egypt became rich and powerful and attracted many migrants. and so by the Middle Kingdom, Egypt was quite mixed. Many people there in fact therefore looked a lot like many African-Americans. Many like to look at Eurasian DNA found in Egyptian mummies from the Middle or New Kingdom and then proclaim that, "See, Egyptians were just like today's Arabs or Berbers." But of course they're ignoring Egypt's origins and the changes which were always occurring as more people came into Egypt both from Eurasia and from the South (Africa). As for Israelites, the same dynamic applies. They enter history already mixed, like many of the Semites of the Levant and Mesopotamia. Some of their ancestry did come in from the north. The peoples in the various hills and mountains of the "Fertile Crescent" were quite diverse, from the Zagros Mts. to Anatolia and the northern Levant, but all of Eurasian types. Likewise, there was migration out of Africa, especially through Yemen, of "black" people. so that today in southern Arabia genetic studies show the population to be of 22% African descent. The Israelites, as well as the other Semites, therefore had African admixture in their population. So... who was "black"? If we went back to the time of the Kingdom of Israel, we'd see many Israelites whom in the USA we'd call "black". Most would have looked like what we loosely term "Mediterranean" today... like Greeks, Moroccans, Lebanese, etc. To anthropologists "race" is interesting only as it indicates migrational history and mixing of various groups. What really identifies people is their culture. Again, in the USA we've a confused view of this, since 2 of our ethnic groups are named after colors (black anad white)! And so, in the USA we are often confused about all of this, not understanding that ethnicity has nothing to do with race, really. But for both of these 2 groups, ethnic ancestry is very mixed. Whites are Scottish, English, German, Irish, Italian, Dutch, etc. Blacks are Yoruba, Bambara, Mandinke, etc. Then in Virginia in the 17th century the categories "black" and "white" were codified, creating an oppressive social division (which worked against working class whites as well as blacks) and engendering an obsession with color which is still with us, as evidenced by the intense arguments over whether Egyptians or Israelites were "black" or "white". The joke's on us, since most Israelites in ancient times likely wouldn't quality as "white" even if they weren't "black". So... what was Jesus? Answer: He was a Jew.
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  9. White have been bitching about this since the days of affirmative action...this is a tired notion expressed by white men who feel they are not getting their due. The white man's ice has been colder for a long time and until it is not we will be in this predicament. The reality is in many cases the white mans ice is colder, so we have to be very intentional about investing in Black business, for example, and give them an opportunity to develop and be on par with white businesses. We will never be free to lead until we have economic freedom. No one will hand Black people this we have to do this for ourselves. The Willie Lynch Letter has been thoroughly debunked, but the "syndrome" may be real. Hey if I overlook the milestone, Have a Very happy Birthday Cynique. I remember correcting be for referring to you as an octogenarian, and now you are a year shy of being beyond that Hummm....Have you looked at where Black people choose to spend and invest their money? Or even where they spend their time online? I think you many arrive at a different conclusion. Now I'm not talking about us... Anyone posting here could be spending their time on facebook or instagram. I'm talking about the Black folks you don't even consider visiting and engaging with a Black site.
    2 points
  10. @Troy how come you didn't think of doing this?
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  11. It is sad indeed to watch the govt including Democrats do nothing about the already obvious list of felonies committed by the Orange Narcissist. What happens now will be the indicator if the system as a whole has decided to allow the USA to slide into fascism or not. Trump clearly belongs in Club Fed. Is it all a colossal sham, a show? Or can we trust anyone, even the FBI, even the progressive Democrats, at this point? The entire world is ominously dysfunctional and worse by the day. At this point I have to say, Here's hoping we survive!
    2 points
  12. IMO, the chances are zero but I'll call it very slim to none that the former POTUS goes to prison. Time and again, he's proven to be Teflon in court.
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  13. Vitamins and supplements are fine for but eating nutrient rich foods is better for the human body. Proper diet and exercise are the real keys to weight loss and good health. Consider all of the places on the planet with the most physically fit people. They're not popping pills or pressing patches on themselves. Physically fit people live a healthy lifestyle from what they eat to how they work and play.
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  14. And now it's Republicans screaming "Defund the Police!" This is beyond hilarious and hypocritical. Eric Trump actually admitted, after accusing Joe Biden of personally ordering the raid: "That's how it worked in our White House." https://www.yahoo.com/news/eric-trumps-accidental-confession-father-085759577.html Ignoring a subpoena for national security documents that the government knows are in your possession does not seem like a good move. And doing something like this is certainly something that could result in the FBI paying a visit. Which happened. The corruption is on Trump.
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  15. I've been hearing and reading that talking point from the Right. They are the same people who wanted Hilary Clinton locked up over some emails. The former POTUS took 15 boxes of documents from the White House back to Florida. That's against the law. Nevermind that he sent the boxes back to DC when he got good and gotd8mn ready. No telling what was removed from those boxes. Oh no...wait a minute. The Feds sent a subpoena asking for the documents to be returned. Then, they interviewed his lawyers at the house and saw the documents. They asked him to better secure them. This dude put the documents in his safe. Not smart. There's a reason former POTUS took the 5th amendment a bunch of times yesterday. He did the same thing he said only guilty people do.
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  16. Welli have not yet read the trolls post, but i God I’ll get to them shortly. I’ll ban them immediately and remove their posts — thanks for the heads up, but next time let me know name too Ok i get it pee air funny
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  17. They are single-handedly dismantling the notion of White Supremacy.
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  18. Black Women & Blonde Wigs; What About Black Men? The Origins of It Wongel is fast becoming one of my favorite youtuber to watch. This recent video had me almost in tears from laughing. She revisited this topic because just recently, Kenya passed a new law in which their judges and lawyers are no longer required to wear the colonial wigs. Furthermore, Wongel did brief research of the origins of these ‘blonde’ wigs and powered white wigs that Black African men and women wore in their courtrooms in certain African countries. However, it should be obvious to most of us that the origins of it stems from the colonial movement from Europe due to the early portraits that are depicted in history books of European men that set up the Colonial Empire all over the world. But why blonde though? Why did Black Africans choose blonde or white horsehair wigs? Yes, that right, I said ‘horsehair’; the wigs were made out of horsehair. But why not wear black wigs like some of the Colonial Frenchmen wore? From a scientific Point-of-View, and even though the world has become obsessed with European traits and therefore associate blond hair as such, ironically though, blond hair stems from a Black African origin. Nevertheless, many African people do not like these wigs and feel that the huge amount of money spent on getting them from Europe could be put to better use.
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  19. @Del @Troy@ProfD Thanks, guys!! Nice to be remembered by my online buddies! What would I do if I didn't have you to keep me on my toes? For now, I'm enjoying my day. Hope we can do this again next year.
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  20. I respectfully ask that you continue to engage in the discussions. Please do not let others mute your opinions and perspectives and contribution to the forum.
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  21. Yes Happy Birthday Connie may you have many more!
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  22. I'm sorry man it does not work that way. You are identified with the generation your were born into. I, for example, am a young baby boomer. most of my children are millennials, and kids born this century are Gen Z. Get it?
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  23. The Dr. mentioned the laws of Ma'at a lot I have shared them below. They appear in The Egyptian Book of the Dead. The 42 Laws Of Ma’at (Negative Confessions) 1- I have not committed sin 2- I have not committed robbery with violence 3- I have not stolen 4- I have not slain men and women 5- I have not stolen food 6- I have not swindled offerings 7- I have not stolen from God 8- I have not told lies 9- I have not carried away food 10- I have not cursed 11- I have not closed my ears to truth 12- I have not committed adultery 13- I have not made anyone cry 14- I have not felt sorrow without reason 15- I have not assaulted anyone 16- I am not deceitful 17- I have not stolen anyone’s land 18- I have not been an eavesdropper 19- I have not falsely accused anyone 20- I have not been angry without reason 21- I have not seduced anyone’s wife 22- I have not polluted myself 23- I have not terrorized anyone 24- I have not disobeyed the law 25- I have not been excessively angry 26- I have not cursed God 27- I have not behaved with violence 28- I have not caused disruption of peace 29- I have not acted hastily or without thought 30- I have not overstepped my boundaries of concern 31- I have not exaggerated my words when speaking 32- I have not worked evil 33- I have not used evil thoughts, words or deeds 34- I have not polluted the water 35- I have not spoken angrily or arrogantly 36- I have not cursed anyone in thought, word or deed 37- I have not placed myself on a pedestal 38- I have not stolen that which belongs to God 39- I have not stolen from or disrespected the deceased 40- I have not taken food from a child 41- I have not acted with insolence 42- I have not destroyed property belonging to God
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  24. Slavery would not have ended. They already had white slaves in the 13 Colonies. In the 17th century in Virginia there were more white slaves than black. They'd have kept on enslaving the Irish and Scots and poor English, transporting them, indenturing them, and so on. Or they'd have started importing Filipinos or someone else. The African-American experience here created a people resilient and strong, and besides providing a lot of labor and talent which was exploited, blacks here also contributed a lot of positive things to this country. I suppose all that suffering was not really worth it just so I could listen to music by Miles Davis and Snoop Dogg... of course there is no way to repay that. But the nation owes African-Americans a lot of gratitude for things most haven't even thought of yet. I don't know if I should even say this, but I'm glad y'all's ancestors did NOT all poison themselves. I'm glad you survived, if that's any consolation. Damn, now I need a drink... this is troublesome to ponder. Just wanted to confirm this. I'm white and was a teacher in South-Central L.A. I'd go into the donut shop in the morning, talk to people, walk around all over, nobody bothered me. Once the people in the neighborhood knew me, I would go everywhere, on any street, visit students' homes. The Crips would shake my hand and thank me for helping their siblings get educated so they could escape this life, as they put it. Put a black teacher in a white area acting as I did there in S-Central and there would be an army of hysterical white Karens calling the cops, if not worse things. Well I'm not saying that the people in S-Central should have confronted me, but certainly the whites should get a clue and stop having a hissy fit every time they see a black person.
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  25. Well I read it... this newsletter, that is. I think I will read Sankofa University. I have been long interested in Afrocentric approaches to history, as I share the awareness that black history has been occluded, to put it mildly. I'm educated as an anthropologist and have tried to understand Africa on its own terms, not through the "Heart of Darkness" lens. My area of concentration has been more in America, studying indigenous people and current populations in USA and Mesoamerica. I jump right into the argument over the Olmecs. I don't think ANYONE from outside was in Mexico influencing them or other civilizations there. No blacks, no whites. I do accept, based on obvious facts, that Egyptian civilization was created by black people. Anyway... thanks for the lead to that book. I'm retired and out of the loop and am not always in contact with much of anything out there...
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  26. Don't worry the jokes will keep coming, just consider the salty sauce (it's not a typographical error, (say it slowly)).
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  27. @Delano, sometimes the comments that come out that guy's keyboard kill me Most people who visit these forums lurk (read but, don't post). The forum is under constant attract by trolls they are not extended invitations as some might believe. Most of the accounts that are created here are banned after they are created. I'm sure I've banned legitimate posters, but I find it is better be overly cautious rather than too lax. I don't remember when I approved your account @Michel Montvert, but most of the accounts I do approve never post. This has been my observations as well, but that is not to say that there is not much more potential. These forums were superior 10 to 15 years ago, but again social media has sucked all the air out of the room. My competition is not from other forums, but from social media, when has tremendous advantages. Perhaps that will change. I believe it will people thought email was dead too, but today it is one of the most effective way to get your message out readers. No Microsoft and Google can decide to push my messages into the spam folder and make email less effective. This is the power of monopoly. This is why 90% of websites can't get traffic from google search and why 2/3 of searches on Google never led to a website. This is why most people who are looking to buy something on the web start with Amazon. All discussion forums have to content with these obstacles. So to everyone, if you find any value here YOU have to help spread the word. We are our best and, in many cases only, advocates And I'm talking about any indie website you think is valuable.
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  28. I have attended several of the debates hosted by Intelligence Squared in person and watched many more live. I have not listened to this one yet. Generally, they are quite informative. Attendees are asked to pick a side on the proposition, in this case, Should Trump Be Indicted? You can for, against, or undecdided. The winner of the debate is the team that has converted the most number of people to their side For or Against. Again, I think Trump should, like anyone else, be indicted. He has lived a charmed life free of adverse consequences of the consequences of his bad behavior -- indeed has been rewarded for it! It is not his fault; Trump is the beneficiary of white male privilege and a culture that is becoming increasingly base. The prospect of him actually going to jail seems slim to me. Fear of reprisals from the public, or making Trump a martyr, are poor excuses not to indict the man and jail him upon conviction. Sunday, August 14, 2022 Here’s what we have in store this week: A new debate about the effects of indicting Trump A closer look at the Jan 6. hearings effect on voter support Your Sunday reading list For ex-President Donald Trump, it's certainly been a week. Federal agents raided his Mar-a-Lago home. Then, the green light was given to a fraud and tax evasion case against his organization. Meanwhile, he's also staring down potential criminal charges as part of an investigation into efforts to overturn the 2020 election. That is the focus of today's debate: Should Trump Be Indicted? Those in favor argue that no one is above the law. More than enough evidence has been unearthed, they say, to convict. Others warn that indicting a former president — and one who is still popular among his base and likely to campaign — will unleash a dangerous new era in American politics. It's an important debate. So we had it. Arguing "Yes," is Barbara Comstock, a former representative from Virginia's 10th congressional district. Arguing "No," is Tom Ginsburg, professor of political science at the University of Chicago. John Donvan moderates. As always, let us know what you think. ----- P.S. - Sign up here for insights on weekly debates. To spark a conversation with a friend, share this newsletter. You can always reach us at info@iq2us.org with ideas and feedback. Debating the Data Former President Donald Trump still has strong support amongst his base. Learn more here. POINT/COUNTERPOINT Should Trump Be Indicted? YES: “I don’t think he should be above the law. … It’s just pure legal accountability. And I think Merrick Garland is on the right path here, that he has to be legally accountable in the same way as any other citizen.” Learn More Barbara Comstock Intelligence Squared U.S. Debates NO: “Donald Trump still has, despite everything, a tremendous amount of political support … and that’s one reason I’m specifically worried about trying him in because I do think he’s a person who thrives on negative media attention, and, you know, might breathe new life into him.” Learn More Tom Ginsburg Intelligence Squared U.S. Debates IQ2 Alumni Point of View The real cruelty of Biden's open border policy – it hurts low-income Americans Batya Ungar-Sargon | August 10, 2022 The New York Post Watch Batya's debate on The New York Times A healthy economy needs risk, loss, and failure Allison Schrager | August 5, 2022 Advisor Perspectives Watch Allison's debate on distributing the wealth Time for NATO to take the lead in Ukraine Alina Polyakova (and Ilya Timtchenko) | August 4, 2022 Foreign Affairs Watch Alina's debate on automation and democracy Ep. 367 w/ Rep Peter Meijer 'The Almost Exit Interview' Kmele Foster (Matt Welch & Michael Moynihan) | August 4, 2022 The Fifth Column Watch Kmele's debate on cancel culture
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  29. The Dozens. A Black game of supposedly friendly rivalry and name calling ; in reality, a crucial exercise in learning how to absorb verbal abuse without faltering Audre Lorde .
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  30. Some people are antagonistic and can't openly compete.
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  31. One of my better qualities is my ability not to follow good advice. It has made for an interesting life.
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  32. They have found classified and top secret documents from the White House in Trump's country club. Apparently some of those documents compromise national security. So like our previous bet unless he dies he is going to jail @Troy
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  33. A new forum could be referred to as the POW WOW, the stomping grounds for all Chiefs, - and no Indians. Same ol, same ol.
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  34. You all speak of the past in the present. Your explanations and suspicions and accusations about the black dilemma are familiar ones. Familiar because I have been hearing them for over 50 years. How ironic that I, in the course of counting down to my 89th birthday in 4 days, speak of the future. You don't have to be a seer to predict that change is going to come. The changes may not be what you expect or what you desire but that doesn't mean they won't be for the better. Society will transform itself through adjustments. Skin color requires no high tech science to change. Sexual fluidity is a natural form of population control. Survival is about evolving. That's not opinion, that's reality. But believe whatever makes you comfortable. Makes me no difference. Why should it???
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  35. I watched the entire video. First, I find it incredulous that white folks like to ask Black folks why their problems exist and whether or not any of it still has to do with racism. The interviewer couldn't get anybody to grant an interview but he found an articulate Black doctor. The doctor did his best to do what Black people try to do in these interviews. The doctor gave well meaning and thoughtful answers to the questions. But, he never flat out laid the blame where it belongs which is the system of racism white supremacy. The doctor did correctly state that white folks have colonized whole countries that were once inhabited exclusively by people of color. The history of Australia is mind blowing. I digress.... The area through which the interviewer was driving once inhabited by black immigrant farm workers. Their white employers made a sh8tload of money and built affluent Palm Beach communities. Nothing was invested in those once working class and now poor communities. The people who live there are left to pull themselves up by the bootstraps and survive by any means necessary. Sports is the best escape route. It's the same affliction that affects AfroAmericans all over America. Our people have been replaced by Hispanic folks as the working class. With no economic infrastructure in place and no reparations, AfroAmericans are expected to compete with white folks for education and jobs on an uneven playing field. The doctor mentioned that there are only 400 AfroAmericans in his profession out of a population of 40 million people. That's a microcosm of the problem.
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  36. In his wisdom, a few years before he died, Dick Gregory talked about it. When the former POTUS was elected, Dick Gregory basically said white people in America would start losing their minds and doing dumb sh8t. When asked what AfroAmericans ahould do...Dick Gregory said "do nothing...this ain't about (you) Black folks".
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  37. Collectively speaking, so far AfroAmerican men have indeed failed their women in terms of adequately protecting and providing for them in this society. We can make all the excuses we want to make ourselves feel better, however the facts are the facts.
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  38. Chev You'd also be an excellent fit for a forum like that because you like to post a wealth of information about the Bible and history that many if not most people EXCEPT for the intellectually inclined will not take time to read thoroughly. It's a shame for a person to take so much time digging up, formatting, and posting information so dear to them only for it to get ignored and float down to the bottom of the page or disappear because the average viewer is more interested in participating in beefs and online feuds than gaining insightful information they otherwise wouldn't come across.
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  39. The bandwidth of this forum can accommodate topics that lead to healthy discussion/debate. The religion threads is an example of a topic that some of us do not post leaving it up to those with more knowledge, information and interest in it. I posted a humorous comment in one of the religion threads and sista @Chevdove piped up. A topic of high intellect discussion could automatically separate the chaff from the wheat.
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  40. It's an interesting fight considering AfroAmerican men and women are in the same proverbial boat. This power dynamic only seems to exist among AfroAmericans. Even the poorest men and women in other cultures do not seem to struggle over leadership.
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  41. @Pioneer1, unfortunately, many Black folks have already been conditioned to look down on AfroAmericans. It would take a great deal of education to reprogram black folks into working together.
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  42. From a racial pov it's about collectively dealing with the larger society and the restrictions it placed on people of colour. On the relationship side it's an issue of dominance. I would say it's a multifaceted problem.
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  43. True... Being based on truth is different from being an allegory or being totally made up... One now must decipher the Truth. Why is it Unacceptable for divine sources to embellish? Poetic license is not lying. I never said the Divine lies..... Genesis 3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die. And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil. Did God lie? did God say they would die? Did the Serpent Lie? The Divine has no need to lie....we lie to ourselves. The Authors of the Holy Scriptures are Human.. Humans are frail and vain. Yet Most Chinese today are Pale in comparison to the Mongolians in your picture? No the man in the picture above looks more light brown to pink than red ...to me Nevertheless I see where you are going. Again could it be that the falsities you see are your own misunderstanding? Provide your single most glaring example of this contradiction? According Genetics and Archaeology: all modern human are descendants of Black Africans. In other words humanity is African
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  44. I'm jealous. There was no gofundme campaign when I bought my 1st property a few decades ago. Several properties later, I never received any help. They'd better figure that sh8t out without their hands out.
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  45. Yes you did and so did I I do not want you to accept anything I say or post all I want is for you to express your truths as we reason and learn from each other. I am here for fun and to spend the time in fruitful communication.
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  46. I have not asked anyone to do anything. And the difference between myself and many others is: I really try to avoid personal attacks and post proof of my contentions. Some just pretend I don't. I will never link my arms with those who hated Dr. King. That seems to tick a few people off around here.
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  47. The reason the vice president wasn't physically attacked by the mob who descended upon the Capitol was because Pence was quickly spirited away by security officers. On January 6th, all the looting, vandalism, injuries to police officers and killing of a female rioter were the end result of Donald Trump's fiery rhetoric that included villainizing the VP. And your patented narrative seeking to exonerate the narcistic tyrant whom you idolize cannot erase that fact.
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