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Well, we were acquaintances, not friends since we did not run in the same circles because she was, as we used to call them, "sanctified", a member of the Church of God in Christ which back then forbade its women to wear lipstick, and frowned on drinking and smoking and dancing and playing cards. So her life was pretty much what it would've been had she been raised as a member of the NOI. Her name was Beatrice and she was an attractive girl and a choir soloist with a beautiful singing voice and a pleasant personality and was cherished by the congregation of her father's church. But her life took a detour when she was not only whispered about for being a daughter of Elijah Muhammad, - something that didn't come out until we were in our 20s when the black Muslims had become well known - but for what happened later when she again became the subject of more gossip after she was left "standing at the altar" in her white wedding gown because the groom never showed up for the rumored reason of being gay. She never wed and became an evangelist and died young, in her early 50s. i have no idea how she felt about the circumstances of her birth but she did have kind, loving adopted parents. There were a lot of little interesting back stories and skeletons in the closet among the black population in the small town where i grew up...

If I follow Pioneer's logic then if you are a leader your followers should give you access to their children. What if it were teenage boys. Would your position change. @Pioneer1

A question is the opposite of a declarative statement. Here's a gramma lesson Son. Four Types of Sentences and the Effect of Punctuation When students learn to write, they begin by learning about the four types of sentences and the role punctuation plays in determining and creating those different sentence types. What Are the Four Types of Sentences? Declarative sentence Imperative sentence Interrogative sentence Exclamatory sentence And there are only three punctuation marks with which to end a sentence: Period Question mark Exclamation point Using different types of sentences and punctuation, students can vary the tone of their writing assignments and express a variety of thoughts and emotions. What is a declarative sentence? A declarative sentencesimply makes a statement or expresses an opinion. In other words, it makes a declaration. This kind of sentence ends with a period. Examples of this sentence type: “I want to be a good writer.” (makes a statement) “My friend is a really good writer.” (expresses an opinion) What is an imperative sentence? An imperative sentencegives a command or makes a request. It usually ends with a period but can, under certain circumstances, end with an exclamation point. Examples of this sentence type: “Please sit down.” “I need you to sit down now!” What is an interrogative sentence? An interrogative sentenceasks a question. This type of sentence often begins with who, what, where, when, why, how, or do, and it ends with a question mark. Examples of this sentence type: “When are you going to turn in your writing assignment?” “Do you know what the weather will be tomorrow?” What is an exclamatory sentence? An exclamatory sentence is a sentence that expresses great emotion such as excitement, surprise, happiness and anger, and ends with an exclamation point. Examples of this sentence type: “It is too dangerous to climb that mountain!” “I got an A on my book report!” Learning about the different types of sentences and punctuation will help students become better writers by enabling them to convey various types of information and emotion in their writing. A question is an inquiry and as such has no pretense. The exception is a court of law.

I am posing questions. In case it wasn't clear. Malcolm and Martin sex life is conjecture and even if it was true it doesn't change how I see them. That was the question. So now I have answered my own question. Instead of assuming I am slandering Martin and Malcolm you could have asked. No you prefer not asking the person their views. @Troy @Pioneer1

Yeah, after puberty is 12 or 13 -- a Child! @Pioneer1 This is horrible. A man saying that 'he didn't force himself on a 12 year old' -- AND WHAT IN THE HELL COULD SHE SAY TO DEFEND HERSELF AGAINST A GROWN ASS MAN, SAYING THAT SHE WOULD HAVE AGREED!? This makes me sick. I don't think the age of consent is 12, 13, 14 or even 15 and ? His wealth of deeds is about him having sex with teenage girls. That's where the buck should have stopped...he should have been confronted by Sister Clara Muhammad, and the government. That is what the Supreme Being did, give governments a chance to intervene and do their job! Having sex with a child can be deemed the worst thing in the world!

@Pioneer1 What a ridiculous statement. Where do you get the idea that white people think having sex is the worst thing in the world?? Whites didn't praise their conquerors for pillaging or condemn them for rape, They just ignored both of these atrocities. I guess you think white slave masters should be given a thumb's up because what they were doing to their black female slaves was merciful. SMH This issue is not about race. It is about a female of any age and color having a right to not be sexually taken advantage of by a horny pussy monger. Many girls reach puberty at 12, so according to your standards, this makes them sexually "eligible " for the lust of predators, an attitude which also includes your thinking that black people are more prone to indulge in wanton sex and this is something to boast about. Even in the animal kingdom, the female of the species selects a mate from all the males trying to impress her, and her choice is the one she discerns would be a good sire for her offspring. But not in your world where it's OK for black folks to just indiscriminately indulge their insatiable desire to copulate because this and the resulting babies are what comes natural to them.

Neely Fuller has said for decades that the biggest and LAST trick of White Supremacy....is to try and fool people of color about their sexuality and get them sexually confused.

Ahh I'll inform my young friend! Yes I read Our Kind of People and the novels of his wife Pamela Thomas-Graham. It was these books, working on Wall Street, and increasingly moving in circles of people who were in this world that opened my eyes into it. I know people who have had homes on the Vineyard for generations and I have vacationed there myself on a number of occasions, but vacationing there and being part of the culture are too different things. ROTFLMBAO! When I wrote about my thought on Lawrence Otis Graham I wasn't gonna say it, but I hated the who pretentious of the Black elite culture (of course I don't mean everyone). But you see it anywhere the English dominated Black people. The Black elites, the strivers seemingly adopt the mindset of the White elite which includes contempt for the Black underclass. Melvin was important because he was doing his before anyone else. Mario, Spike, at al success was made easier by Mario breaking barriers. Speaking of Melvin did anyone see his film, Sweet Sweetback’s Baadasssss Song? Speaking using my Blaines Edward voice (from the Men On Film routine from Living Color) -- Hated it! I guess comedians can not do routines like this and expect to host the Oscars.

@Cynique obviously not. MANY people don;t have a clue who Zora Neale Hurston is. I'm going to start a new conversation about this. Every day I delete (don't approve) seemingly innocuous messages posted by people looking to get an account approved so that they can spam the forums. This message almost did not pass my sniff test. I tend to err of the side of caution.

@Troy , please tell me you are making a facetious statement here - Please tell me you do know what illegitimate means within this context ... @Delano I rest my case as it relates to the previous thread. So much for being a leader when you can't even handle your own family business.

https://www.nytimes.com/1987/11/03/us/19-children-of-muslim-leader-battle-a-bank-for-5.7-million.html WOW This is interesting. Now, I am wondering about questions that could possibly be directed towards @Pioneer1. So now, the repercussions of the leader in his actions to have sex and father childrne from young girls is passed off onto the NOI community that supported their leader and turned a deaf ear to these relationships. So they supported their leader seemingly unconditionally OH BUT NOW, it seems that some of these supporters don't want the 'Illigitemate' children to have a reasonable compensation from their father's earning??? Why not? Why would certain NOI members dislike these offspring for expecting to have substantial support from their father's earning? Just by the mere fact that they could have endured harship from others as a result of being born from young girls should dictate that they each receive compensation for being the leader's child, IMO. So now, if the NOI community don't want the offspring of this leader to receive fair compensation for the trouble their father caused them to be exposed to due to his actions, then the community should have confronted their leader. Am I looking at this the wrong way? I wonder if I have gotten something right.

@Pioneer1 Del, hell. MLK's extra-curricula activities were circulating when he was alive. I happened to have been around during King's era when all of the stories were current, and they did not totally emanate from J. Edgar Hoover's report although it was fairly accurate, especially the part about King and Joan Baez, the famous white folk singer. But the most damning of all, was the book written after King's death by MLK's trusted right hand man, Ralph Abernathy, in which references were made to King's affairs, a book for which Abernathy took a lot of heat. As for Coretta, she was a faithful partner who relished her position as the wife of America's premiere black Moses and then widow of its martyred black Messiah, and she chose not to besmirch her husband who she undoubtedly loved.