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@Pioneer1 History, Huh? Lol! My history is filled with black men. My father was black. My first born daughter’s father is black. I know black men well enough to write a book and I’ve written two! BUT critiiquing black men is not my job. Ali played himself in that video clip. He was a straight embarrassment. Now let me help you out here with MY history. I’ve only had 1 marriage. I married 1 blond hair blue-eyed french /german white man who to this day still loves this dark-skinned kinky-hair black woman and the ground she walks on. And he ain’t soft like you like to think about white men. You can’t roll with me and be soft. He would kick anyone’s ass who would dare to step to me , his black stepdaughter (yes he stepped up and raised her like his own) and African/european descent daughters... no matter what they or I wear. And trust, no one dictates what we wear or what we do ... and he’d still defend and protect us for exercising our rights. But then again he’s white in America so maybe that’s privilege lol. Even though we’re no longer married I considered myself lucky for choosing this strong white man as partner. He is the kindest man I know. Ironically, he never tried to control me or the girls...but I guess there was no need. So no, I didn’t choose white supremacy; I chose freedom -and what resulted is a white man who worships us black women...daughters of Africa, with all the respect due us.

i don't know what Mel's response to Pioneer will be when it comes to her ex-husband, but she sure got it right in her assessment of that loud mouth hypocrite Ali, whose choices of women were always examples of those consistent with western standards, - always bragging about them having long pretty hair which was anything but kinky. He also regularly referred to joe Fraizer as a monkey. In his heyday he was typical of misogynisitic chauvinistic men of islam, expecting their women to be totally subservient and obedient to their dumb asses, but in his final years, Ali was a helpless cripple at the mercy of his controlling manipulative 4th wife. Poetic justice. Always the defender of Islam and its shady leaders, one can't help but wonder why Pioneer never became a Black Muslim. They exemplify everything he believes in.

@Pioneer1 this clip actually makes @Mel Hopkins's point. I agree no woman, or man, should worship at the alter of a European designer. However, any religion, or man exposing such a religion, that mandates chaste attire for women is oppressing women. I've seen women in the ocean down here in burkas (or whatever you call that crazy getup some muslin women wear that covers everything but their eyes). Is that really what you in favor of? Pioneer truth be told some of what you write is confusing and inconsistent. I recall previously you saying man was millions of years old. Now we are billions of years old. Which means we must be extraterrestrials because Earth could not support our form of life billions of years ago. When presented with this info you come if with something that some people believed centuries ago. Given your conversation with Chevdove about the Bible I figured you must be a Christian or some pioneerized version of one. I was curious to know which parts you believed.

Yeah I hear you @Cynique, but Steve Harvey is not any funnier than Monique. Sucess is never really is about pure talent in the entertainment industry. Do you think the striper turn rap phenom, Cardi B, is the most talented female rapper? Do you think Colin K. lacks the talent to make a pro team? Steve is great at working the system, Monique despite the Oscar sucks at it. It was probably not a good idea for her to be managed by her husband. That has obviously not worked well....

The "money game" IS the "white game" See Steve, and he said it himself, ain't trying to sacrifice himself or his family or the cause -- certainly not for Monique. What Steve describes as the "wrong way" is the way that would cause him some discomfort (i.e. potential loss of income). That is why Steve and the rests of them are very wealthy money and why a Monique, a Kaepernick, or any one of us can be shut down -- regardless of what other Black people say or think about it. Boycott?! Black folks have not successfully boycotted anything since Montgomery, over 60 years ago! That tactic is off the table because, like Steve, no one wants to sacrifice anything. No one will boycott Amazon because people want discounted books and free shipping -- who cares how many Black businesses are crippled in their wake. No one is boycotting Netflix to support Monique and more than they'd boycott the NFL to support Colin. Collectively, we are a relatively weak, powerless, dependent, group of people...sorry. Sure there are some individual successes, like Steve Harvey and others, but if Steve can't protect a fellow comedian, one he claims he "loves," what good is his success to anyone but himself?

Beauty, beauty beauty. Looks are superficial. How often does it have to be prated that "beauty is in the eye of the beholder"! And who said that being natural is synonymous with beauty, anyway? Nudity is natural, but we wear clothes that shield us and reflect our style as opposed to flaunting genitals and breasts and butts because these are things we are born with. Furthermore, personality, intelligence and good character have more longevity than looks. What's really masculine is if a man is secure enough in his own identity that he can accept a woman vetting his looks the same way he vetts hers. e.g. if a man tells a woman he doesn't like her weave or wig, he shouldn't get indignant if she tells him she doesn't like his bushy beard and spiked tied-up hair.

What Monique doesn't realize is that demanding to be paid more money by Netflix, regardless of the reason they paid her a lower salary, is still slavery. If she has beef with them, no one is stopping her from actually growing her own empire that could employ more black people and maybe even become real competition. So I don't buy her sob story. Why not use the 500k that she got from Netflix to open up Moniqueflix? Or find an already black existing company that she can take over or invest in, even as a silent investor if she didn't want to get her feet wet? Black celebs have always been too happy with masta's money and then complain when they get ripped off more than they are used to being ripped off. Funny thing is that they are the least likely ones to invest their money back into the black community and create more opportunities for the people who made them rich but that's showbiz. Even more ironic is that would also be where their true wealth lies I'm certain. Monique wasn't standing up for the black community. That's why no one took her temper tantrum seriously. She was acting out of self interest because she personally felt targeted. She was motivated by her own greed and ambition. Now she has to make amends with the same people she insulted so she may have a career. @Pioneer1 I believe @Troy is referring to the fact that Motown sold out to Universal. They also sold cheaply for 61 million dollars. They haven't been black owned since the 80's. That's why they are not mentioned among black owned businesses. Now I believe they are worth in the billions. Same with BET who sold to Viacom. The powers that be pretty much prohibit black people from having media control. And I think Google is in on it too.

@Pioneer1 is that video clip the hill you want to die on? Lol. OMG! Ali referred to African tribes as savages, his wife as merchandise, compared her to wild beast and praised the white man’s values! OIL DIAMONDS and GOLD have no intrinsic value ...Europeans gave it its value and destroyed practically all of Africa to mine it! What is valuable is ALWAYS visible! Eat some fruit or vegetables, take a breath, get a sip of water! Scratch “bitch” moves - Ali is an effing idiot in this video clip. Further, women are humans. We are free and belong to no man. He may try to enslave us, torture us but he will never own a woman. If anything, a woman controls a man’s fate. From conception, to when she gives him her mtDNA that houses ATP (aka the God Cell) to his birth; a woman controls whether he will exist. full stop. If she’s crafty enough she can end him when he’s born and many women have done just that. Edit: I will never understand the lunacy of a man claiming he is god when he and all men arrive on this planet the same way - though the crack of a woman’s ass. So what is this talk of ownership? A man may make laws or use religion to control a woman’s behavior but let’s not ever get it twisted - man-made laws will NEVER trump Nature. The speciation of the X chromosome is why humans exist in this form. I always thought Ali was a wise man - but in this clip, it is clear, he’s fully indocrinated as a white supremacist. Damn. For Ali to sit there and talk like that indicates he was brainwashed to the highest degree ... damn I’m embarrased to have seen this clip.! What’sn worse is to have his white host defend African tribes against Ali’s ignorance.

@Pioneer1 Motown is a terrible example. Where is that "institution" today? I have clothing that has lasted longer than Motown.

Black people need to stop crying over and begging for crumbs and we need to build more of OUR OWN institutions where WE can control what we do and how much money we make. This is one of the reason I have so much respect for Berry Gordy and Motown. When the world didn't want to recognize Black talent or pay it for what it was worth, Berry said: "Fuck you....we're pack up our shit, move out, and do our OWN thing" And next thing you know the WORLD was (and still is) rocking to the Motown sound! When you're always hanging out at other people's houses and looking for meals you can't get mad and throw a fit everytime you feel they don't put enough sugar in your Kool Aid.

No, @Mel Hopkins I meant i draw them. But technically the metal attract the magnet too, so my analogy was a bit off. I was raised in an all female household and my own family was all female. still there is so much to kearn about women and hair

I Love your mind Cynique. I have no plan, and it's working for me.

Yeah that reminds me of the Jherl Curl or the Mullet... I see a lot more and more sistaz with purple hair including a couple i took out. Is purple hair really a thing, or am l i just a purple-hair-having-chick-magnet?

What's left unsaid is that Monique is not exceptionally talented or funny. Yes, she won an Oscar which didn't really call for her to do anything but play herself. She hasn't got enough star power to command what she thinks she deserves. IMO.

@ChevdoveOK, i didn't see your first answer. Sorry. So, Adam and Eve were not the first people. There were others who were enough like Adam and Eve to reproduce with them. If Cain and his sister were half-siblings, then they didn't have either the same mother or the same father. which begs the question, did either Adam or Eve cheat on the other? These questions may seem facetious but people speak with such certainty about biblical accounts, as if they were there when they happened or have a hot-line to the personal thoughts of "god". I see why the bible is referred to as the scriptures because it reads like a script for a soap opera or a historic saga - all of this a part of a process that makes religion the "opiate of the masses". Of course, i know you've heard all of this before.

@Cynique You've spoken like a true hustler !!! one of the many reasons I admire you!!! “Always remember whether you be sucker or hustler in the world out there, you’ve got that vital edge if you can iron- clad your feelings. I picture the human mind as a movie screen. If you’re a dopey sucker, you’ll just sit and watch all kinds of mindwrecking, damn fool movies on that screen. After all, we are the absolute bosses of that whole theatre and show in our minds. We even write the script. So always write positive, dynamic scripts and show only the best movies for you on that screen whether you are pimp or priest.” - Iceberg Slim Yes, I believe it, @Troy . "Law of causation" <--- not really a law but I believe nothing ever happens without a cause - even if I haven't seen the cause.

For years, during online discussions, i have been attributing the conclusions i reach to my having taken an over view of things and looked at the big picture. Reaction to this has indicated a total disregard for my panoramic perspective. Now, a serendipitous epiphany has erupted in our midst, giving pause, inspiring a fatalistic view of life, one requiring a resignation to the profound idea that everything happens for inexplicable reasons beyond our comprehension, a declaration of dependence replete with the idea that we are all just pawns in a game which rules out free will. Watching now from my bird's eye view of the big picture, a question comes to mind leaving me to wonder, since everything happens for a reason, why do gluttons for punishment insist on descending into a constant state of fear of and loathing for the demonic social media and all of its by-products, and the enduring racism that thwarts justice, the looming threat of disastrous climate change, and the apocalyptic overtones of political upheaval? A better way of coping with the inevitable is to just chill and take life as it comes. Especially since things might turn out for the best! Since shit happens for reasons too convoluted for mere mortals to wrap their brains around, why sweat it? Leave the hassle to people like me, who believe we are in control to the extent that the choices we make are solely what determine our destiny. Adopting this approach makes things more interesting and at least allows us to enjoy our guilty pleasures along the way.

I've heard it all before. Black men wanting to dictate to black women how they should present themselves, always accompanying this advice with a lot of psycho-babbo lectures about "self-hate". But who is to say that it isn't about "self-love" when a black woman gives herself a do-over that makes her feel better about herself? Yeah, yeah, yeah, you can ramble on and on about sistas being brainwashed into accepting European standards of beauty and, in an effort to make your point, inaccurately classify all black women as being buxom and voluptuous, mistakenly implying that all white women are scrawny and flat chested, but the fact of the matter is that women of all colors come in all shapes and forms, and have many different grades of hair, and they all aspire to replicate the most popular standard of perfection. And that includes the woman pictured above with the dyed blond hair-do that looks like somebody dumped a plate of scrambled eggs on her head. Nowadays black women rock any style that appeals to them, many sporting braids entwined with synthetic extensions to make them longer. Until black men get their own acts together they should just chill and exercise the option to only choose from the type of woman whose looks personally appeal to them.