Nah'Sun

The problem is that urban fiction was seen as a hustle instead of an art and craft

You had people who wrote in the genre to make a quick buck instead of striving to either elevate the art, or at least sustain creativity

Most authors who used to write urban fiction have moved on to other endeavors after realizing writing books wasn't as lucrative as they thought

Urban fiction needs to die and resurrect again - ala The Coldest Winter Ever resurrecting urban fiction years after Goines

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@Troy - I asked because of this...

http://www.politeonsociety.com/2017/07/17/harlem-book-fair-2017-wrap-up/

@Troy - The link is in the signature

I've been around...

...building my brand and catalog

Thanks for asking

By the way, what do you think of the HBF nowadays?

LOL

Nah'Sun

ABOUT THE BOOK

Some dream about it. Some indulge. The rest are curious about introducing themselves to the swing culture.

#YouMeUsThem is a thorough examination of the Lifestyle commonly known to swingers as the LS. As couple swapping is generally frowned upon in mainstream society, the story of Niccolo and Katt takes you on a trip through the good, the bad, and the ugly for vets and newbies alike to avoid the pitfalls of the LS while engaging in sexxxplosive fantasies between 60 chapters of no filler.

You'll learn words of the LS such as unicorn, bull, chocolate, and vanilla that don't have anything to do with ice cream and animals.

You, Me, Us, Them serves as a vetting process of a secret society where codes, ethics, and principles are expected to be abided by between couples and singles in a close-knit community that distinguishes itself from people who merely engage in sex parties.

Common SIDE EFFECTS may include horniness, booty calls, random texts, addiction, insomnia, and pillow talking among friends about how damn good the book is after you finish reading.

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Half of the first page on this site is bombarded by Hickson’s constant promoting…I don’t have time to surf through pages to find a thread I actually wanna read

 

My time is too valuable

 

@ Cynique

The difference between Kola Book and Hickson is that Kola actually participated in multiple discussions regardless of my agreeing or disagreeing with her views

I think she’s a head-case at times, but at least I got a glimpse of her personality…and when I DID meet her in person a couple times, she turned out to be a good hearted individual, which had led me to buy her book

Kola gave me background info about her on the strength of the discussions on this board that drew interest from me to check her out

I’m turned off when authors constantly promote and advertise with no personality behind their doing because it’s amateurish and unprofessional

It’s like buying a car on the side of the street instead of getting it from a dealership

Half of the first page on this site is bombarded by Hickson’s constant promoting…I actually took a break from this website because he’s not offering anything of substance besides promoting his material…I don’t have time to surf through pages to find a thread I actually wanna read

My time is too valuable

On a social site, you sell your PERSONALITY before you sell the book…it has nothing to do with genre…I’ll read anything that doesn’t bore the hell outta me

Point blank

I'm off this subject because to each their own

@ Troy

Reasoning with Hickson is like talking to a brick wall

The irony is that he quoted a Chinese proverb about wisdom when he's ignoring the jewel I just dropped about readers such as myself supporting authors

Matter of fact...

A wise man isn't supposed to say to himself that he's wise...his words and actions speak for themselves...LOL

I see Hickson doesn’t take constructive criticism well, and that’s gonna be his downfall

I checked out authors like Kola Boof because she actually brought something meaningful to the board

In fact, her posts on the board had led me to wanna meet her @ the Harlem Book Fair two years ago, which subsequently led me to a book signing she held in Crown Heights

Hickson has been spamming the boards for years (during my "lurking" days), and sometimes deters me to wanna come to this forum because of that

Not once has his method had drawn interest for me to check out what he's about

His whole style is annoying and unprofessional...point blank

@ Troy

It's funny because I've been riding NYC buses and subways since 2001, and I'll say 98 percent of the time I'll see Black women with an Urban Fiction book in their hands

It's like that's the only genre they enjoy reading

And the only time they'll read outside the Urban market is when books like Fifty Shades of Grey, The Great Gatsby and The Help either become popular or turned into movies

I also wanna throw in a James Patterson title...he's pretty much the Eminem of the book industry

The only time I was shocked to see a Black woman read a book that wasn't popular was when I saw her read Wretched of the Earth by Franz Fanon

I was floored

@ Troy

You're forgetting that the Street Lit market was already tapped with Donald Goines, Iceberg Slim and Nathan Heard

The problem was that no one had carried the torch in the 80s to late 90s when they either passed away or stopped writing novels

Major publishing houses were foolish by looking at the intangibles instead of the tangibles of why Black people supposedly didn't read...the market was out there...they just weren't saavy enough to realize that history repeats itself

Sister Souljah's The Coldest Winter Ever had resurrected the genre...NOT create it

And you're right, a lot of Black literary fiction authors would be irrelevant or obsolete if it wasn't for Oprah's blessings and academic English departments

That's why a lot of Black authors shy away from writing literary fiction because they think:

A.) They wont sell

B.) There's no market for it

C.) Hardly anyone wants to think when they read...they wanna be entertained

I think literary fiction writers need some "swag" in their writings in order to keep up with the undiagnosed ADD culture of this microwave society

@ Troy

I don't blame Black literary fiction writers for focusing on the white demographic...white readers have a broader taste when it comes to fiction

It seems like negroes are enslaved to reading Urban fiction, Erotic, or Christian fiction

The only time they do read other genres is when either Oprah or the white man co-sign it (ex. The Help and Fifty Shades of Grey trilogy)

The Black readership choices are limited...simple as that

There's no accident that Black authors use pseudonyms when they write Sci-Fi and Fantasy novels

Nah'Sun, it would help if literary fiction were promoted and marketed.

So if literary ficion dies it has no one to blame but itself.

I wouldn't be so quick to say that

One Baltimore store owner once told me he refuses to sell books other than Street Lit

It's our own fault that there's hardly any variety because stores either refuse to market, promote or stock books other than Urban Fiction

Therefore, people are going to read what's available to them as many are too lazy to unearth new talent

Then you wonder why the game is so saturated with one thing

Literary Fiction is dead among Black readership unless the white man or Oprah co-signs it

@ Troy

You pretty much took the words from my fingers

People lament Amazons "control" over publishging, but they will not stop
patronizing them.  People will bitch and moan about how Amazon is
contributing to the demise of local indepedent book sellers, but they
will not suport those book sellers with their money perfering to go to
Amazon.

^^^^^^^

Amen to this part also

As you implied we have less choice today than we did 10 years ago.  New
York City with perhaps the nation's largest Black population, has one
radio station with a "Black format" and it is terrible.

Check out the video below that talks about how the demise of Black radio in NYC

Very interesting

The American is too spoiled and pacified to spark a revolution

It's bad enough that people act like they can't read a book unless it's on an eReader, or can't drive without a GPS

I'm not surprised one bit

Everything nowadays are getting bought out or consolidated

There are only 3 major recording companies, 2 radio stations, 1 major internet radio station, and 6 Hollywood studios

The only thing people can do is adapt and support the "little people," but even that's a stretch because we live in a society where you're not seen as a success unless you're signed with a major

Welcome to the New World Order, baby

This list shows me how a lot of authors are LYING about their eBook sales…especially Negro authors

I don’t see any of the internet braggers and boasters or the self-proclaimed “King,” Queen,” Prince,” Princess,” of this or that on this list

A lot of authors aren’t eating strictly on book sales the way they want people to believe

@ Cynique

I see you're becoming senile

You specifically used Sister Souljah's name in your post...the name that I used...NOT Troy

Otherwise, you would've said Teri Woods if your response was directed to Troy

I already said I didn't know much about the book industry prior to the 90s in a thread last year...especially "industry talk"...I study movements, not accolaids and awards

Try again

@ Cynique

I stated what I knew...you could've just simply added on instead of critiquing my timeline

Then again...

That wouldn't be Cynique-like

@Pioneer

Any response to you after this post is a mercy killing

I pity you

@Pioneer

The same way you "criticized" Red Hook Summer without watching the movie, right?

Then he (Spike Lee) has a movie that is supposed to come out (or maybe already has) called "Red Hook Summer" that supposedly shows preacher molesting a little Black boy.
Why would HE put crap like that out? - Pioneer Posted on 13 January 2013 - 05:09 PM #24

Don't be a hypocrite

That ain't kosher

@Pioneer

Peace do criticize what they never read, saw or heard...happens all the time when it comes to Urban Fiction

I never criticized Django...but hey, whatever makes you sleep better at night

You can try to convince me to see the movie all you want, but it's not happening any time soon

Try again