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  1. @ Troy

    Great idea (about the sig)...thanks for the heads up

    A lot of our people got the massa's ice is colder mentality...I'll have more book sales if I'd put my books on Amazon...I refuse to waver at this point

    I don't have a problem with selling my books through this website...I'm all for networking

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  2. Even authors you and I know are now saying please "check me out on AMAZON" and providing a link -- skipping there own websites the website of their publisher...

    Not this author...LOL

    You have to either get my books through me or don't get them at all

    I make it a point to direct readers to my website...it's sad because some of them aren't comfortable with buying books directly from me...they'll rather get them through Amazon

    :rolleyes:

  3. @ Troy

    Yep, Teri Woods eventually signed with the Warners...not mad at her either

    I just don't think that a lot of Black folks were trippin' about writing books until they became profitable around 2003

    It went from slangin' crack and Avon to writing books

    Hahahahahahaha

    Speaking of Teri Woods...

    Check out this controversial Teri Woods interview with Mack Mama

    It's off the hook!!!...LOL

    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/mackmama/2012/05/15/interview-legendary-author-teri-woods-nys-finest

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  4. @ Troy

    You said it yourself how Omar Tyree's hustle back then fails in comparison to today's authors

    Don't make me go archive diggin'...LOL

    Tyree, McMillian, and Harris aren't notorious for their guerilla hustling...they got popular AFTER the major deal

    If those said authors made millions independently, they wouldn't have to sign to a major

    That's my logic as far as that situation

    There are people who don't know about Toni Morrison but knows Terry McMillian, and Morrison is more revered in the industry

    So that point about people not knowing Teri in comparison to Omar is moot

    I think the urban/street lit popularity is waning as far as new authors looking for a quick buck

    The veterans are good as long as they satisfy their readers

  5. @ Troy

    Once again...

    I'm not arguing who done what first

    I'm saying that Teri influenced authors to make it on their own moreso than Terry McMillian and E Lynn Harris

    You cannot sit up here and tell me that authors were thinking about putting books out on their own on a mass scale until Teri Woods sold millions independently with True 2 The Game and B-More Careful

    She showed the industry that you can sell Urban Fiction/Street Lit without the help of the major

    And also changed the game by dictating a market that was dead for almost 30 years

    This is evident considering you have authors who used to write "chick-lit" and "sista-girl" novels crossing over to write edgier books with pen names

    If that's not influence, then I don't know what is

    And yes, I've heard of Omar Tyree

    In fact, my publishing consultant had worked with him for his first novel which was a street lit joint

    Tyree, McMillian, and Harris didn't make millions independently like Teri

    Point blank

  6. @ Admin

    Re-read my post

    I said Teri trail-blazed after the initial spark

    The mass flooding of Black self published authors and independent publishing houses didn’t kick off until Teri SHOWED them that you can make tons of money on the street level

    Lynn and Terry aren’t known for their guerrilla marketing whereas Teri had showed others what you can do on your own

    You STILL had to go through the majors even when Terry and Lynn did their numbers

    Teri changed that reality

    This shouldn’t be a debate

  7. @ Troy

    The explosion of self-published authors didn’t start until Teri Woods hit the scene

    I’m not talking about who pioneered that movement. I’m talking about the person who trail-blazed after the initial spark

    Writing books wasn’t thought of as profitable until Teri made millions publishing True 2 The Game and B-More Careful with Shannon

    Teri reflected those who looked liked her...they wanted to emulate her success whereas Terry and Lynn carried more of a middle-class appeal to them

    It was inspiring to see a woman selling her books on 125th street in Harlem making a grip of money

    A lot of people don’t know about Lynn E Harris’s and Terry McMillian’s self-pubbing grind like they do Teri’s...they're more known for their work with major houses

  8. What's funny is that before 1999, writing books wasn't even thought of

    Teri Woods had pretty much broken the mold when she independently released True 2 The Game

    Authors drop out the rat race when they experience the harsh reality that making money writing books isn't an overnight thing

    They leave as quickly as they arrived

  9. @ Troy

    I’m not saying whether eBooks are good or bad for authors and the industry

    I merely drew a comparison between the two mediums

    I don’t think people are gonna stop reading paperbacks and hardcovers because you still have traditionalists such as yours truly who holds a disdain toward eBooks

    I prefer turning pages.

    What's funny is that most of my book sales come from my personal website...I hardly ever throw book signings anymore...LOL

  10. Your getting uptight about me sterotyping hip-hoppers says a lot about you and your beloved "culture", Nah'Suh. If I can take you at your word, under close scrutiny, there is no such thing as a typical hip-hopper. They are not only "this", they can also be "that". They might be one way or - they may be another. This being the case, what makes them unique??? Presumably, the only way hip-hoppers can be identified is if they place this label on themselves. Apparently, they are a loose-knit segment of the black populace who have one thing in common: They are fans of Rap music and are tolerant of street lit. Whatever.

    Your impression that I said "bad" things about your "cult" was a subjective reaction. In my post giving my version of hip-hop, I did not criticize. When I said that "keeping it real" was the hip-hop credo then, to me, this excused a multitude of sins, especially since I'm not a Polly-Anna. I'm not appalled by gangsta rap because I consider the source. I'm detached about fashion choices because folks are entitled to do their own thing. Booze and drugs? Whatever floats your boat. Booty calls? Enjoy. Anti-establishment? Count me in. In the twilight of my years, I've learned to live and let live. But I'm also a cynic and have concluded that some people live a little more sensibly than others.

    #Stereotypes

    #Generalizations

  11. @ Carey Carey

    Thanks for the love, fam

    I know what the hell I’m talking about…LOL

    I speak on things I know…and look, listen and observe on subjects I know nothing about

    Troy and Cynique are too stuck on the age factor to take heed of what I know considering I’ve LIVED the Hip-Hop culture

    @ Cynique

    Side A

    Why not question me about the positive aspects of Hip-Hop?

    Why negativity ALWAYS has to be synonymous with Hip-Hop in general and rap music specifically?

    There are rappers and rap producers who are currently teachers and professors like 9th Wonder and NY Oil

    Why not talk about that???

    If someone in the Hip-Hop community does something righteous, the masses turn a blind eye

    But let a rapper shoot someone or engages in criminality and you'll see that get full blown coverage

    It seems like the only people who have lopsided views about Hip-Hop are those who are least knowledgeable about the culture such as yourself

    Side B

    You say you have a limited understanding about Hip-Hop, and yet you STILL find ways to stereotype Hip-Hop as a whole which is recklessness within itself

    You negated the fact that every region and city has their own style

    If you go to LA, you might see dudes wearing Khakis, Cortez Nikes, and Chuck Taylors instead of Timberlands and Hoodies

    Of course rap music can be negative…America created that Frankenstein considering the conditions that a good number of the artists have come from

    Rap music is American as apple pie

    Point blank period

  12. Nevertheless, in my limited understanding, this is what I have observed and deduced from my little senior citizen perch in a suburb of Chicago. Hip-hop is a mystique whose credo is about "keeping it real" as exemplified by an appreciation for authentic rap which is the music of the street, - an art form that incorporates the spoken word when expressing the violence, vulgarity and disillusionment of the hood. I'd guess hip-hop attire leans toward casual chic or sports gear, and for guys, a pair of Timberland boots and high-priced designer gym shoes a requisite. I'd assume an awareness of Afro American roots is a given, including a passing knowledge of cool jazz and an appreciation of R&B. Natural hair-dos would be the preference of hip-hoppers, ala afros, corn-rows, twists or the dread-locked extensions that can be defined as "affectations". Drug of choice: weed. Expensive booze a priority. Booty calls a plus. Marriage optional...bibliography: gritty street lit from the past and present, along with works of radical intellectualism...idiom bi-lingual, alternating between Ebonics and standard English. Demeanor: swagger. Politics: anti-establishment.

    Correct me and explain what is it that makes the smug disciples of this ho-hum counter-culture consider it so special???

    A few rappers advocated voting (remember Rock the Vote?)

    David Banner loaded buses of food and water and was one of the FIRST to help out victims of Hurricane Katrina when Prez Bush was slow with his response

    But nobody wants to bring that up, right?

    LOL

    The groups below (De La Soul, A Tribe Called Quest, Monie Love and The Jungle Brothers) are considered "real" Hip-Hop, and they don't fit your description of what Hip-Hop is about

    In fact, they denounced the materialism and those same vulgarities you claim that's Hip-Hop in their albums

    Rap music isn't monolithic

    There are rappers who are vegetarian and rap about the dangers of eating red meat and the consumption of liquor (see Dead Prez "Healthy")

    But nobody wants to bring that up, right?

    The stereotype of Hip-Hop is hiliarious when it comes from Black people, those who are a victim of those same stereotypes...LOL

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  13. @ Writer Girl

    Side A

    For one, I already said rap music isn't perfect

    And two, why not talk about the rap music that brings forth intellectual and consciousness to the masses???

    It's funny how people who LEAST listen to rap music have MORE to say about it

    The majority of rap music buyers are women

    Why not ask THEM that question???

    Rap music is the reflection of society...if you wanna so-called clean up rap, then clean up the mentality of the people

    Rap didn't create the public...the public created rap

    Side B

    Country music is your preference...I don't knock anyone for their choice of music

    If that's your cup of henny, more power to you

    You act like all rap is demeaning to women when you have songs like "Brown Skin Lady" by Black Star (Mos Def and Talib Kweli) and "Beautiful Skin" from Goodie Mobb that big up women

    There are countless other songs that promote women in a positive light, but it seems like either you're only exposed to the so-called negative or you don't listen to a lot of rap to see the variety

    That's like saying all Black men are criminals and dead beat dads based on shows like COPS and Maury

    You need to stop

    @ Troy

    Once again...

    You being there doesn't mean anything when you weren't an active participant

    Because if you were an active participant in the 80s, you'll know Hip-Hop is a culture

    Looking outside your window and watching from afar doesn't mean you know Hip-Hop

    It ain't where you from, it's where you at - Rakim

    You don't even know where I'm from...LOL

    You a funny dude

    And for someone who champions Street Lit, which has it's own share of misogny, you have the nerve to see how I response to those two posters

    Okay, let me ask you these questions:

    How do you feel about misogny in Street Fiction?

    What do you know about Hip-Hop?

    And don't Google either...LOL

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  14. @ Troy

    Side A

    Cut it out, Troy

    Just because you were there in the beginning doesn’t mean you have a full understanding of the Hip-Hop culture

    There are people who are older than you who STILL don’t get it

    You have negroes who lived in the 60s and STILL don’t know much about the Black Panther Party

    I’m not interested in learning about Hip-Hop from you because your knowledge of Hip-Hop is limited

    Simple as that

    You don’t view Hip-Hop as a culture like its forefathers do

    So why would I learn anything from you about Hip-Hop besides surface information that I can get from someone who REALLY lived the culture?

    That’s like asking a tiger how it’s like to live as an elephant

    You remind me of that elder who claim they know everything about the Civil Rights Movement but never participated in marches, sit-ins, riots, etc

    Side B

    I take that back…I’m NOT open minded

    I won’t smoke crack to try out its effects…so I guess I am closed minded

    Side C

    The age thing is dead…leave it alone

    You don’t know how old I am…so that issue is moot

    It’s funny how you switched from the topic of Hip-Hop to the issue of age to cover up your lack of knowledge about the subject we’re on now]

    Classic example of diversion

    I see you

    LOL

    Side D

    I’m not religious…so I don’t know what it’s like to be dogmatic

    *shrugs*

  15. @ Troy

    Side A

    As a person who learns from different School of Thoughts, I’m far from closed minded

    Now you're attacking my character...I'll let that one slide and take that comment as tongue and cheek

    I admitted to not knowing much about the book publishing industry...so how the hell admitting my ignorance about certain things a mark of closed mindedness or immaturity?

    You're reaching for the moon hoping to grab Mercury

    Side B

    I didn’t say rap music is the be-all-end-all of American music

    I’m saying it’s the last American art form in music because nothing has come out AFTER it

    Side C

    The reason why the age thing irks me is because older people think that a numerical value based on the Gregorian calendar gives them validity to know everything or have a larger range of knowledge, wisdom and understanding when that’s a farce

    My ego is not massive to not learn from those who are younger than me

    You NEVER stop learning, like you stated…I don’t give a damn if you’re 200 years old…you’re ignorant of something that someone can give you knowledge about even if a youth brings something new to your attention

    The elders not learning from the youth and vice versa is one of the major reasons why a generation gap is present

    It’s funny how older folk place their ego on age as if that’s the only thing they have worth living for…LOL

    Side D

    Culture - the quality in a person or society that arises from a concern for what is regarded as excellent in arts, letters, manners, scholarly pursuits, etc.

    By definition, Hip-Hop IS a culture with its own way of talking, fashion, literature, arts, music, dancing, etc.

    The Zulu Nation can tell you that…LOL

    They study Hip-Hop in colleges and universities

    Hip-Hop was thought of as a culture years before money came into play

    We have two different views about Hip-Hop (which means Higher Infinite Power Healing Our People)

    And I got that definition from Professor Griff and the Black Dot

    As far as Michael Eric Dyson…I agree that he’s robotic when it comes to rap and tries way too hard…but hey, at least he’s trying…LOL

    Oh yeah...Kevin Powell used to write for Vibe Magazine...he's been writing about Hip-Hop before he stepped into the political arena

    Side E

    As far as Cynique…I studied her posting style as a lurker…therefore, I won’t bother replying to her in this particular subject since she admitted to having no knowledge to back her so-called debate

    I never said rap and Hip-Hop are perfect, but don't act like other forms of music don't have their share of criticism

    As far as yourself…

    I don’t think you’re an enemy of Hip-Hop…you just don’t know much about the culture to engage in an argument with someone who does

    You saying Hip-Hop is not a culture gives validity to my thought

    Point blank

  16. @ Troy

    Side A

    Around my parts, we say SUN…not son

    Whassup, sun?

    That’s how we rock n roll

    Not even boy or dog because we aren’t children or animals

    Side B

    I don’t have a problem with your stance or your views on rap and Hip-Hop per se

    It just irks the hell outta me when my elders and those a few years older than me wanna use age as a measurement of knowing history

    Your views on Hip-Hop as a whole isn’t complete in my opinion

    Just like how mines aren’t complete on book publishing

    Most likely I wouldn’t spar with you about book publishing because I don’t know too much about the game in its totality

    I’m still learning

    I know my lane

    Side C

    Of course commercialized rap music is trash

    On the flip side, commercialized rap music never represented the genre as a whole

    You always had to go to the streets to get that raw, uncut style of rap

    The only time I listen to today’s rap is when I hit the clubs…mainly because I don’t have a choice

    Like I told you before…I stick with the 80s and 90s style of rap

    Side D

    I beg to differ about outgrowing Hip-Hop because as rap gets older, the people along with it get older as well

    You can’t deny the classics…no matter how old you get

    Remember...I'm not a casual listener...I view Hip-Hop as a CULTURE

    The young MCs are getting older…Jay, Nas, and Eminem are top selling rappers that are either in their 40s or teetering on that milestone

    There are many ways to celebrate Hip-Hop besides the music

    Michael Eric Dyson speaks on Hip-Hop…even Kevin Powell drops editorials on Hip-Hop…KRS One, Professor Griff, Chuck D, Black Dot and others speak at colleges and universities on the subject of rap and Hip-Hop

    What about your man Anthony Whyte…he’s an older cat who claims I am Hip Hop Lit

    Hip-Hop is not about the music all the time…it’s multi-faceted

    As an MC and author, rap has played a major part in my style of writing when I pen novels...so Hip-Hop is with me til the Omega

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