Pioneer1

frankster

My "turn"???

 

You asked me to provide you with Hadith that said Prophet Muhammad was a White man.

I did.

 

Instead of it satisfying you, you ran around the internet digging up multiple and often contradictory Hadith that claims Muhammad was Black, Brown, AND White..lol.

 

Which pretty much supports my position of why I don't f' with religion anyway.
There is too much contradiction and confusion in most organized religions for them to supposedly "come from God".

 

But you can choose whichever Hadith you like or supports your belief.
If you want to believe Muhammad was a Black man, a Brown man, or even a White man....be my guest.

 

Because not just in this particular case, but now that I look back over the years......it appears that around here.....it doesn't matter too much whether I'm right or not; nor does it matter how much evidence I bring to prove my assertions.
 

4 hours ago, aka Contrarian said:

Someone please tell me why men risk their reputations, their jobs, their marriages, their everything, all for a piece of p***y?  Since Trump isn't available to answer the question, maybe somebody on this  forum could supply an answer. Somebody, perhaps like, hummmm, that garrulous ol letcher who shall also remain nameless, and  who never misses a chance to lace his posts with salacious sexual references. Hint: this  poster never met an argument he didn't think he could win, secure in his delusion that he's the smartest guy in the room.  Yeah, right, an empty room. 

In your 90 years, maybe no man had taken time to sit you down and explain this to you but........getting that piece of pussy is THE REASON WHY most men work and get married and build their reputations, lol.

Not all....but most.

Kind of like how a cop or judge would risk their career and jail time to steal and embezzle money they come across.
Well, the entire reason they're working and chose their career was to acquire money....so when their goal is RIGHT THERE in their faces, it's hard for some of them to resist.
Their mentality is....If money is their ultimate goal and it's RIGHT THERE in their faces then why not cut to the chase????


Most men get good jobs, build businesses, acquire multiple houses, drive fancy fine cars, wear nice clothes, and build up their reputations.....either consciously or subconsciously to ATTRACT WOMEN so that they can get more coochie.

Even the marriage part.
Many man have learned that having a woman often makes them MORE ATTRACTIVE to other women.

So when they see a way to cut to the chase and just go straight to having sex with the women of their choice, they often take advantage of this since this was their basic goal through out life to begin with.
Not forcefully....(though unfortunately some do)....but directly....and often against their better judgement.

frankster

 

Now square the above with the below....for so within as without - and you will have made a great leap in uncovering that which is hidden in plain sight.

 

Luke 17:20-21

 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:  Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

It doesn't square, because it's talking about 2 different subjects.

One deals with the return of Jesus, the other with the coming of God's kingdom.

 

They may be RELATED, but they are not the same....they don't square.

 

Next............

 

 

 

See above....not with Observation.

 

See my above response.....different subjects.

 

 

 

 

Who said he left Earth???

According to the Bible, the Angels said:

 

Acts 1:11
"Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven."

 

Is the "heaven" Jesus went to on Earth?


 

 

 

Hinduism is many religions.....that Europeans classify as one.

 

Ok?
My statement still stands that it was established by racist Caucasian Aryans to oppress the darker original peoples of that land.

 

 

 

 

I have proven it as such..

 

How?
Show me the proof, please.

 

 

 

 

 

Were Arabs white?

 

The original Arabs were White.
Many still are.

 

 

Are Arabs White as in Europeans?

 

Not sure what you mean by "as in Europeans".
Some Arabs are racially "White" meaning Caucasian.....just like most Europeans are.
 

 

are albinos white?

Yes, physically.
Though many are not Caucasian racially.
 

 

 

I have heard of such hadith.....please provide them???

 

 

Sahih al-Bukhari 63:
While we were sitting with the Prophet (ﷺ) in the mosque, a man came riding on a camel. He made his camel kneel down in the mosque, tied its foreleg and then said: “Who amongst you is Muhammad?” At that time the Prophet (ﷺ) was sitting amongst us (his companions) leaning on his arm. We replied, “This white man reclining on his arm.” The man then addressed him, “O Son of `Abdul Muttalib.” The Prophet (ﷺ) said, “I am here to answer your questions.”

 

 

 

 

 

I say they re-interpreted it to suits there prejudices.

 

Say what you like.
You have that freedom.

But the facts will remain, lol.

6 hours ago, ProfD said:

Gangsters at the highest level. Not just the ones they romanticize in mafia movies.

Lol...the ORIGINAL gangstas.

5 hours ago, ProfD said:

Right. But as long as certain items and materials have to be imported, they have to deal with foreigners willing to recognize their currency.

I don't see a reason why they can't have 2 monetary systems.
One for their domestic use and the other for foreign use.

Or just conduct foreign business in gold.

frankster

 

How do you know that Jesus Has not returned?

Well according to the Bible which is the holy book of Christians, in the book of Matthew you have the conditions laid out for Christ's return:

Chapter 16 Verse 27
"For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works."

 

Chapter 24 Verses 30-31
"And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other."

 

Chapter 25 Verses 31-34

"When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:

And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:

And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.

Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:"

 

These things are supposed to take place upon Christ's return yet none of this has taken place on the planet.


 

 

Maybe for you he hasn't.
 

Well if he has returned for YOU or anybody else, then please show us the PROOF as laid out in the Bible.

It's not enough to walk around with a greasy face and a big grin saying "Jesus is here with me".

A whole lot of schizophrenics are walking around claiming to be Jesus.

If you will make the claim, then we need PROOF that Jesus is back, here on Earth.

 

 

 

I know of none of the current Major world Religion coming from white racist origins...

Hinduism definitely comes from Caucasians and the religion itself is based upon racism.

And despite their origins....the organized religions of Christianity, Islam, and Hinduism were USED by racists to subjugate Black and Brown people around the planet.

 

 

 

Any such Idea is patently false.

Is it "false" because you have proven it to be such?
Or is it "false" because you don't want to believe it?



 

All Religions mentioned  above was founded by people of color...

Numerous Hadith claim that Prophet Muhammad was a White man.

And as I said before, Hinduism was founded by Caucasian Aryans who invaded northern India and mixed their Vedic beliefs in with the traditional beliefs of the local Black people.

 

9 minutes ago, ProfD said:

 

That makes the system of racism white supremacy the most powerful religion on the planet.

Well......
Given the current situation going on, the question should be asked who do the leaders of Israel REALLY have more faith in to protect them:


-Yahweh and the archangel Michael?

or

-The United States and their advanced weapons system?

18 minutes ago, ProfD said:

It shouldn't matter as long as they're using it within the country.

 

Foreign currency exchange would be the only slippery slope when trying to convert their dollars to another currency outside the country. 

 

Exactly.
That's what I was thinking about.

It especially works if they intend to produce ALL or as many of their own goods and services as they can.



 

Ofcourse.

And on top of that, they seek to save their children from a lot of THEIR bad Karma and debt by having done most of the dirty and bloody work to establish the racist system themselves.

Kind of like how Joe Kennedy engaged in all types of illegal activities so he could generate enough wealth to give his boys John, Robert, and Ted good educations and political connections.
That way they could keep and expand the wealth legitimately without the risk of violence, incarceration, or social disgrace.
 

22 minutes ago, ProfD said:

In the case above, I think brotha @Troy left out the word *not*...mutually exclusive. But, he'll answer for himself. 

 

If he did intend to insert the "not"....then that statement would be more correct, but it would make little sense in the context of our discussion because nobody has even suggested such.
 

23 minutes ago, ProfD said:

 

Religion and white supremacy are the highest forms of mind control on the planet.

 

 

Infact.....
Some make the claim that most religions themselves came from White racists.

If you look at the "religions" most people of color (Africans, Native Americans, brown Asians) were practicing before Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, and Zoroastrism....most of them practiced traditional "ancestral" religions.

All of them were similar to eachother despite being thousands of miles apart.

As soon as Caucasians arrived in their lands, before subjugating them they usually introduced a new religion to them while demonizing their traditional religions.

ProfD

 

Agape love would resolve the problems affecting human beings.

Lol....are you sure you support "agape"?
That's a religious term.

Troy

 

Does this suggest that things are predetermined?

Honestly, I'm not sure.
You'll have to ask those who believe in the prophecies of the Bible whether they believe things are predetermined or not.

However from a non-religious point of view I would say that it's easy to make VAGUE predictions by studying the history of humanity.





 

Sounds like further proof. 
 

Not really.
Because many if not most of the prophecies that religious leaders point to in the Bible are very vague and general.
 

Like..."Right before Jesus comes they'll be plenty of war".
or...."Right before the end of the world they'll be a lot of  Earthquakes and diseases".

They have that on the planet right now, yes....however they had that on the planet 100 years ago also.

Infact, when has this planet NOT had war, Earthquakes, and diseases in the last few thousand years?

 

 

 

 

 

I’m curious @Pioneer1. How many prophecies were made, roughly?
 

Not sure.

 

Can you describe three of the most impressive (impossible to predict) that have been fulfilled?

That's the problem.
I don't know of any prophecies or predictions of the Bible that were impossible for humans to predict that HAVE been fullfilled already.

The only prophecy of the Bible I'm thinking of right now that would be almost impossible for a human to predict would be the return of Jesus.

...and that hasn't happened yet.

I keep saying "yet" because I don't know the future and the predictions of Christianity, Islam, and other religions may very well take place in the future.
So I won't write them off.

But I'm not going to sit around doing nothing but wait on them either.

3 minutes ago, Troy said:

Accepting Christ and being brought up by Christian parents are mutually exclusive. 
 

 

 

 

Mutually exclusive is a statistical term describing two or more events that cannot happen simultaneously. It is commonly used to describe a situation where the occurrence of one outcome supersedes the other. For example, war and peace cannot coexist at the same time. This makes them mutually exclusive.

 

Are you saying that in your opinion a person brought up by Christian parents cannot accept Christ?
Or that those who accept Christ could not have been brought up by Christian parents?
 

The issue is..........
Most if not all of the so-called prophecies of the Bible concerning the "end of days" has been fulfilled.
They've BEEN fulfilled for centuries.

Yet Jesus hasn't returned.

ProfD

You also made a good point that despite winning that large sum of  money, the brother probably won't get to enjoy it because of his physical and mental condition.

 

richardmurray

 

Why more discreet? So many black people in the usa talk about speaking in code. Why?

2 major reasons:

 

1. So as not to reveal your plans and goals to your Enemy

 

2. So that naive AfroAmericans and those who are supposedly standing on the "sidelines" like Asians and Africans don't get confused about who the real racists and bigots are.

 

As I said before, White folks know how to practice racism collectively without having to "organize" to do so.
They ARE organized....but they don't have to constantly TELL eachother to organize and rally themselves together like so many of our people have to constantly do.
So they can start an organization without the word "white" or build a community without the word "white" in the name but most of them will automtically know this organization or community is for them and their interests.

 

With most AfroAmericans.....
If you don't literally put the words "Black" or "AfroAmerican" in the title....many of them will walk right pass the place or organization not thinking it's for them and take no interest in it.

 

But then the problem is if you explicitly label it "Black" and for Black folks; then White racists will point out how Black folks are openly being racists and how Whites could never get away with labeling an organization or place as "White this" or "White that".

 

I liked how we used the word "soul" in the 60s to describe our food and music instead of describing it in racial terms.
 

10 hours ago, richardmurray said:

@Pioneer1 I will not answer. I am not interesting in making an online catalog of my life, those who know me offline know these things, that is enough

Ok.
That's your right and I respect it.

ProfD

If you ask most religious people, they'll tell you it's part of the "grand plan".

They don't get stressed out about it (unless it happens to them directly and then most of them put their religion to the side and human nature takes over) and in some cases they LOOK FORWARD to more war, disaster, and mass casualty.

They'll tell you that all of this was "prophesied" to take place and it's building up for either some messianic figure/savior to return and make everything alright or for the end of the world to take place and everybody lays down, a trumpet is blown, and everybody gets back up to be Judged.

Ofcourse, this hasn't happened yet.......

Plenty of death and destruction but no messiah or savior floating down to save the planet yet.
But they still believe it and think it's right around the corner.

The interesting thing is the generation that believes this gets old and dies out and a NEW generation comes up believing and preaching the same thing.
It's been like this for the past couple thousand years.


Napoleon said that RELIGION is the only thing that keeps the poor from rising up and killing the rich....lol.

I'm glad to see more African nations are deciding to introduce their own currencies instead of trading and doing business in dollars, Euros, and Francs.

I'm not sure if it even needs to be backed by gold.

22 hours ago, ProfD said:

A great question that every human being should ponder.  Especially those who want the world to be a better place.

 

Unfortunately, there are too many distractions that keep people dazed and confused and indifferent to others.

 

The simple answer is *love*.  Most people know what is feels like to be loved or have an idea of how it should feel. 

 

Love just needs to be spread like a virus.  That would solve 99% of the problems between humans.

I think the key is for the RIGHT PEOPLE to start loving eachother.

There is a lot of love going on in this world, but a lot of the WRONG people are getting the love that they don't need.

At my job we just had a situation where there was a couple working together.
The woman was a good worker and actually got her boyfriend that job and he kept fucking up and instead of blaming HIM she'd blame the company and management for "picking on" him. 
He either got fired or quit and she walked right out of the door behind him....over "love".
And it was well known that he was both physically and verbally abusive to her.

Love the RIGHT people.

On 4/10/2024 at 6:58 PM, aka Contrarian said:

Well, I had a good run. If I go to sleep and don't wake up, it's been real, Folks. Fun and interesting hangin out with ya. Check ya later. Maybe.

Well, if you're planning on going "to sleep" and not waking up.....then you better HURRY UP and apologize for all of the insults and nasty things you'd said to me over the years!

You don't want to try to make your way to that "upper room" with all of THAT baggage weighing you down!


 

 

 

 

Hurry up and apologize!

It's not too late!

Make haste!

Run swiftly!

Sad to hear about our brother passing away like that.
He's probably at peace now.

I still remember when that verdict came out back in '95.
I was working in a mall and everyone in that mall were packed in Best Buys and Circuit Cities and Department stores....anywhere that had televisions.
All standing around watching for the verdict.

When it came down NOT GUILTY it seems like all of the Black folks in the mall started cheering and jumping up and down.
I remember men picking up women and kissing them and slinging them around....lol.

I remember one older sista who I didn't know grabbing me jumping up and down...titties bouncing all over me....lol
A woman can do that now and it wouldn't be a problem.....but back then at that age I had to take a few minutes to go somewhere and "calm" myself down....before heading back out to work LMBAO!!! 

 

Really.......
A person should be raised doing physical work from childhood so that they'd be used to that type of labor.

You don't take a 40 year old dude from the streets who's used to hanging out drinking and smoking all night and waking up at 1pm for 30 years and try to make him a Master Electrician or Plumber.