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  1. Chev

     


    Yes, I've gotten that feeling, not only in NC but in certain 'other' areas in the south as well.

     

    I've stayed around the South.
    I've stayed in Texas, Louisiana, Georgia, ect...
    There's an issue with people from the North and California coming down South bringing their "attitudes" with them to otherwise slow and quiet areas, but I seem to especially notice this on Eastcoast southern states like the Carolinas and Georgia especially.

     

    I used to live in Atlanta and you might as well live in New York or Philadelphia because over half of the people in the Atlanta area is from there anyway.
    And they all sound like Mike Tyson or Spike Lee...lol.

     

     

     

     


    No matter whether our ancestors were either positive or negative, as their offspring we become recipients of the actions and it's unavoidable. 

     

    I've heard other people say this because it SOUNDS good and is simplistic, but if you think about it it's not very just or logical.
    If people are VICTIMS and are harmed by the hands of another because of what their parents did, then ones the harm is done the price should be PAID.
    It doesn't make sense than the CHILDREN and GRAND CHILDREN and GREAT GRAND CHILDREN of the victim should continue to also be victimized.

    Exactly when does the price get paid in full?

     

    If the first or second generation is punished, it seems like it would be justice that the generations born afterwards should be born guilt free.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    his is because the American Colonist set up slavery and this was the very way that they 'figured out' to throw off the shackles of their British colonizers. 

     

    The American colonists didn't set up slavery, the British set it up...like they set it up in other nations.
    The American colonists just MAINTAINED what the British already started after they won their independence from the British.
    Kind of like a wife will keep the family dog after divorcing her husband.  Both of them owned the dog during the marriage, she just inherited it.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     


    That sounds crazy and you are not even using common sense. I hope to have time to share more about this but for now, I just want to state the obvious;

    At that time span, it would be ridiculous to believe that there was A WHITE MAN, a king over a civilization,

     

    This is the Song of Solomon chapter 5 verse 8-13 from the KJV:

     

    8  I charge you, O daughters of Jerusalem, if ye find my beloved, that ye tell him, that I am sick of love.

    9  What is thy beloved more than another beloved, O thou fairest among women? what is thy beloved more than another beloved, that thou dost so charge us?

    10  My beloved is white and ruddy, the chiefest among ten thousand.

    11  His head is as the most fine gold, his locks are bushy, and black as a raven.

    12  His eyes are as the eyes of doves by the rivers of waters, washed with milk, and fitly set.

    13  His cheeks are as a bed of spices, as sweet flowers: his lips like lilies, dropping sweet smelling myrrh.

     

    I quoted multiple verses so that you can see the entire thing in context and understand that this is a woman singing about a MAN (her lover).

    She is describing her lover's physical features and what she finds attractive about him.

    She clearly describes her lover as being WHITE and RUDDY (reddish and blushing).

     

    There is only ONE MAN who is the subject of this song...and that man is Solomon.
    Given this is called the Song of Solomon, who else could she be singing about?
     

     

     

     

     

     


    Today, there are several 'inter-racial' couples where the man is White and the woman is Black but not in the highest position of the government will you see a dark skinned Black woman as a leading lady UNLESS THE WOMAN IS FAIR SKINNED. 

    She wasn't Solomon's Queen...she was one of Solomon's lovers, which is what she has been singing about in her songs.
    She was indeed a Queen, but not of Israel.
    She had her own Queendom down in a place called Sheba which is today called Yemen and Ethiopia.  


  2. Chev

     

     

    I would be very angry. And, I would not go along with it and would absolutely protest, right then.

     

    The reasons WHY you would be angry was because you knew the malicious and evil INTENTIONS behind them pushing that boy out on stage to expose himself like that.
    You knew HE didn't know any better but those who encouraged him DID.

    It's the same with this video.

    Like the retarded person...HE didn't know any better, which is why he didn't see the problem or how weird his dancing and singing was humorous to "normal" people.

    Autism is a developmental disability like retardation.
    While retardation affects the intellect.
    Autism affects the social skills.
    Neither one knows when someone is making fun of them or taking advantage of them.
     


  3. Chev

     

     

    My initial thoughts were 'why in the world' would someone have the nerve to feature himself in a video sounding like that and contorting like that. 

     

    Perhaps because YOU wouldn't take advantage of him, you don't think others would.


    Let me ask you a question.........

     

    If you were in school and they hosted a talent show and a group of students convinced a mentally retarded boy to go out on stage and just "be himself" and clapped and cheered him on as he acted up infront of the audience....what would you think of this?


    Do you think those students who pushed that retarded boy out to perform before the audience were his friends and did it with good intentions?
     


  4. Afro

     

    I know it's almost clique for AfroAmericans to run around talking about they have "Indian" in them.  But actually in most cases this is quite true.  It's just that most AfroAmericans don't have the resources to properly prove their lineage.

    It's actually the Caucasians who are the most guilty of "faking the funk" by claiming to be Native American when they really aren't or only have trace amounts.  But they are often able to manipulate laws to get their claims legitamized.

     


    Central Asian and South Asian Indian

     

    Well I know I see a little Dravidian in him..in his facial features and especially his eyebrows.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Troy

     

    Ethnicity is much more fluid than race because ethnic groups can literally be made up over night.

     

    For example...
    Italian used to be only a nationality.  But now in the U.S. when someone says they are "Italian" they usually mean "Italian American" and are using it as an ethnicity instead of a nationality.

     

    Technically speaking the word "Black"...although most people think of it as a race or color is actually an ETHNIC term for AfroAmericans.

    Many Africans don't see themselves as "Black" and when they refer to "Blacks" they are talking about AfroAmericans...lol.

  5. Troy

     

    A couple points:


    1. With all due respect, don't you think it's just a little arrogant on your part to believe YOU are more correct than THEM -given that neither of you work in the medical industry, for CDC, or are specialists in the field of virology?

     

    Technically speaking you are both simply adults with OPINIONS.  Opinions based on information you chose to accept.  
    Neither of you are coming from a position of absolute KNOWLEDGE of the virus and it's behavior.
     


    2. I agree that the population as a whole is on the stupid side  but THAT is not the reason for the failure to achieve herd immunity.
     I actually blame the GOVERNMENTS (Federal and State) and not the public for that failure.

    They should ASSUME that people aren't going to have the knowledge and discipline to practice proper hygeinic conditions and quarantine themselves....and should have done a proper SHUT DOWN early on leaving only the most essential establishments (hospitals, grocery stores, ect..) open, to get this thing under control.
     

    It's still not to late.
    It's never too late.

    But it's gonna be much harder.

  6. Afro

    he's of african american, irish and native american descent.

    So he's made up of 3 different races.
    That's a typical AfroAmerican, lol


    In Latino culture they have a name for that mixture but I forgot exactly what it's called.

    "Triego" or something like that.








    Troy



    again more evidence for why race is so problematic.

    And again, you can’t look at someone and determine their ethnicity.


    Race isn't problematic for me.
    There are clearly defined categories for all races and racial mixtures, most people are just ignorant of them.
     

    No one is arguing about how easy it is to determine one's ethnicity.  Ethnicity is a very FLUID category that is based more on culture and personal identity than genetics and phenotype.


  7. Troy

     

     

     A Black 20 year old in 2021 is not the same animal as one from almost 40 years ago when I was 20.

     

    Some of these young people are straight up...strange.
    I was watching the protests in Minnesota the other week and one of the reporters got smashed in the head with a glass water  bottle and fell down and some of the younger people in the crowd started laughing and making fun of him.
     



    You've had crazy young people since who can remember, but many of them seem crazy in a "different" way today.

    I certainly don't think I would have laughed at that incident if I were 15.

    I probably wouldn't have rushed to his aid to see if he was alright like I would today, but I'm certain I wouldn't have laughed at him hysterically and made fun of him falling out like some did.

     

     

     

     

    The autistic kid did not make this video.  The production quality is relatively high -- a quality camera, lighting, and good editing.

     

    Yeah, this DOES look like a professionally done music video.
    So it seems to me that someone/s of atleast normal intelligence put this together.  It's hard to believe they did NOT understand how inappropriate this was.
    Even if the young brother himself agreed to it...they should have  known better.

     

     

     

     


    Is this any different than @afro718's post?

     

    Ofcourse.
    Much different.

     

    The picture in Afro718s post isn't exploitational...not in my opinion atleast.


    Despite calling them a "he"...the person's sexual identity looks a little obscure, but I'm not sure if that was the purpose of the thread anyway.
    Afro's questioned called attention to the person's ethnic and racial identity, not their gender or sex.

     

    Whoever put that video together most likely KNEW that young brother had a developmental disability and would behave in a way that seemed strange and attention grabbing.  They clearly used his disability for entertainment purposes.
     


  8. Troy

     


    I did not find the video funny at all. Nor did I find it entertaining. I guess I’m too old to appreciate it.

     

    Me neither, and I'm not sure if it's about age.
    If I were 20 I don't think I'd find this video funny or entertaining. Though at that age I didn't know too much about autism so I'd probably would have said a few inappropriate things about the young brother in it without realizing his condition.

     

     


    Pioneer it was the video that Chen posted. I just embedded it to make it easier for others to watch.

     

    Who is Chen?
    Why does he think this is "funny"???
     

    Like Del said, it looks pitiful but the distorted movements and sounds also makes it a bit frightening...lol.


    Since he was/is autistic I'm wondering did the young brother make this video all on his own or did those girls help him make it. 
    I ask because this COULD be a case of them taking advantage of his condition and poking fun at him.

    Some other races will do that with Blk people.

    I came across a bunch of videos on youtube featuring African children who were born disfigured or deformed from birth defects that you'll find among people of all races, but they were showing them in a way as if it was "normal" for these Africans to have these features.  
    You don't see them much in the video but the videos were made by non-Africans and you could instinctively tell they weren't doing this videos to help or show sympathy but to really make fun of these unfortunate children.

  9. 6 hours ago, Chevdove said:

     

    LOL! I gotta go to work so, I will come back to this post soon hopefully.

    But guess what!? You know that young man that was killed last week by the police in Pasquatank county? Anthony Brown Jr. There was a funeral and protest for him a few hours ago, yesterday. That was the very county that my story was in! Remember what I said about it being 'like a town where you got the feeling that Blacks were pretty much made to know that we had to stay in our place...'. Yeah, Elizabeth City, NC--Pasquatank county. 

     

     

     

     

    Free Photo | Frightened scared black man stares with popped eyes, witnesses  disaster, gasps from shock, opens mouth widely, wears green jumper

            "Say what????"

    What a crazy coincidence.

    I was looking at that place on the map and it's almost right on the Atlantic ocean.

    I used to live in North Carolina....in Charlotte.
    I actually had a pretty good time the little while I was there and didn't have any negative experiences, but like I said I stayed in the larger city and away from the more rural areas.


    Based on what I saw in the short time I was there, the BIGGEST threat to race relations in North Carolina weren't the people born and raised there....it came from Northerners from places like New York, New Jersey, and Pennsylvania who were relocating down there in very large numbers and poisoning the atmosphere with their hostile and overly aggressive demeanors.

    One of the reasons I moved to the South was to get away from the negative and aggressive attitudes of the people up North.
    But when I started running into more and more people from the North in these states....I said I might as well STAY up here, lol.


  10. Troy

     

    I don't think  you can produce ANY statement that I have made that was definately proven to be inaccurate....that I haven't realized and corrected already once it was pointed out and otherwise proven to me.

     

    Again, don't confuse opinions and mere 2nd and 3rd hand informtion given by Caucasians as "knowledge" or "proven science".

    One of the reasons this virus is so out of control around the planet is because too many people of color put their faith in Western so-called "science" instead of putting in a sincere effort to secure FACTS.


     

  11. I've had some positive and some negative interactions with law enforcement, but the vast majority have been positive.

     

    The biggest determining factor for how well the outcome went was The SUPREME BEING's Protection.

    And in my opinion, the second biggest determining factor was my behavior during the interaction.

    I was taught by my Parents (as well as common sense) to say "yes sir" and "no sir" and not to argue with the police or give them an excuse to be brutal. But I'm not under any illusion that this  will guarantees all will go right.
    Neely Fuller Jr. teaches you can do everything you though you were supposed to do and STILL end up dead.


    The system is unjust and should be replaced.
    But if you can't or won't replace it or don't have time to replace it...then you should learn to survive and be as safe as you can IN it.


    The first step in surviving and successfully escaping the traps and plots of Caucasian racism is being RIGHTEOUS.
    When you live a righteous (I said righteous...not religious) life, you dance around and avoid most of the traps they set to get you in trouble in the first place.

    Like Malcolm X said, the White man SELLS you the liquor....then turns around and locks you up for getting drunk.


  12. Chev

     


    You know better than that-- Deception coming from you. You know it was not written 'out of the blue' so-to-speak' in 1611 but it was translated from older scripts and that translation was published in `1611. 

     

    Ok...now do you have or have you read THOSE ancient scripts it was translated from???

     

     

     

     

    BTW, who is that icon in your signature;


    That's not me...lol...I didn't come out of the old Black-n-white days.

    That's a picture of a gentleman by the name A.G. Gaston

     

    A. G. Gaston (1892-1996) •

     


    An early AfroAmerican multi-millionaire who was one of the richest men (of any race) in America at his time.  Even during segregation he owned an insurance company, funeral home, hotel, construction firm, and a number of other businesses in Alabama.

     

    Infact, Martin Luther King Jr. used to stay in one of his hotels when he visited Birmingham Alabama.

     

    Very admirable brother.

     

     

     

     

     

     I know that you have shared your religious beliefs in a past post and once, you said something to me, but I don't remember everything. I know that I respect your religious beliefs but, your attack against Black Christians is totally wrong. 

     

    I believe in and Worship The SUPREME BEING.
    I don't have a religion outside of the seeking and acceptance of TRUTH.

    But I have to make sure it's TRUTH before believing it, and not just mere rhetoric and mythology passed down from one generation to the next.

     

     

     


     You posted a reference where Louis farrakhan said that the origin of his religion is a White woman!!! and his religious origins are from the Caucasus so, don't put that lie on God.

     

    Huh??????

     

     

     

     

     

    Black people have their own free will and they choose to worship idols of which God is against. Black people want God to deliver them after they have abused humanity and that is unbelievable. 

     

    Not all Black people did or continue to do this.
    Why would millions of Black people be enslaved and punished for something only SOME of them did?
    That doesn't seem fair.

    Why would CHILDREN be born enslaved and used as alligator bait by wicked racists in Louisiana swaps for something they didn't do?

     

     

     

     


    I have already responded to this! White people are not 'more evil' than Black people. White Supremacy is a concept and this whole world is guilt of it, not just White people. If Black people obsess and idolize certain humans because they are White or fair skinned, then welcome them into their civilizations and inter-breed and then become overthrown by these people, why should God keep delivering Black Africans over and over again. What makes Black people better than White people? 

     

    I'm not sure of any of that.

    However I've began to reason that many Black people continue to experiences oppression and cruelty for reasons that have little to do with religion or any evil they may have done....but they simple aren't smart enough to figure their way out of it.

    Most people who are slaves or oppressed period are probably in that condition because they weren't smart enough to either turn the tables on their oppressors or avoid oppression in the first place.

    The British colonized many African and Asian nations.
    They TRIED to maintain the American colony but American Caucasians figured out a way to fight back and throw off the shackles of their British colonizers.

     

     

     

     

     


    But as Troy points out, even in this thread, you show that you reject certain elements of references in certain post that are proven and confirmed. 

     

     

    That's because much of what you and he calls "proven" and "confirmed" are neither.

    It's merely information that Caucasians have come to a consensus upon....and forced others to agree with.

    Outside of math...most of what you're taught in these colleges and universities isn't real education but FORCED consensus that you have to agree to and repeat in order to graduate.
    You don't really KNOW if what they taught you was true or not.


     

     

     


    And here, in this very thread, you put out lies and reject even the Biblical script that states Solomon was a Black skinned, very black skinned Hebrew Israelite man! 

     

     

    The Bible doesn't state that Solomon was Black.
    I've explained to you several times that that verse wasn't Solomon talking but Solomon's LOVER singing a poem about herself.

    She was telling the daughters of Jerusalem not to look down on her because she was dark skinned.  She called herself Black and beautiful and described Solomon as having White skin with Black hair.

     

     

     

     

     


    Pioneer, you constantly engage in Religious Bullying. 

     

    Lol, you better.....be quiet before I find MAURICE and invite him to join the conversation.
    It would be something if he was still working in that restaurant washing dishes.

  13. You're right....Canada does indeed have race issues.
    However I was speaking as a COMPARISON to the United States.
    Most AfroAmericans who've spent any time in Canada will say the same thing I said.

    Better doesn't necessarily mean perfect.


    Is subtle racism better than blatant racism?
    I used to think it was worse, but after 4 years of Trump.....with all factors remaining the same I'd rather racists keep their venom to themselves.


  14. Change is THIS regard would be illogical and go against one of the fundamental laws of nature: self preservation


    Why would a person in power jeopardize his livelihood and that of his children by forfeiting his power and wealth only for another to replace him who will probably do the same thing that HE is currently doing?


    It's not like the King gives up his kingship and in turn EVERYBODY happily enjoys their existence together as peasants.  
    No, that only allows for ANOTHER ambitious individual (most likely multiple) to vie for the spot.


     

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