Pioneer1

Troy beat me to the punch on this issue..........

When I first started hearing this in the media I said "here he goes again" with his racist shit.
But I still did a little research anyway so I could read the statement for myself and see how bold did he get this time and I read:

 

 

 

 

"And then I got indicted a second time and a third time and a fourth time. And a lot of people said that that's why the Black people like me because they have been hurt so badly and discriminated against," Trump said. "They actually viewed me as I'm being discriminated against."

 

Trump comments on Black voters draw rebuke from Haley, Democrats | Reuters

 

This in and of itself wasn't a racist statement in my opinion but:

1. It leads one to believe that "Black people like him"...which is for the most part erroneous because MOST Black people don't like or support him

2. The Left and Democrats in general...if they are smart...could use this for future ammunition against Republicans who are constantly denying racism and discrimination in this society.
Hell, your own leader is up here talking about it and sympathizing with AfroAmericans over their mistreatment and admits to our people being hurt so badly and discriminated against.

Infact....this COULD be ammunition for a Reparations demand should he get back in office!

 

 

Not sure what's going on with her but she sounds like a psy-op to me anyway.

For one thing, I'm suspicious about her sexual identity because she has too many masculine features and I've seen old photos of her looking too much like a male.
And then she keeps her hair dyed blonde and wears provocative and unflattering clothes.
She simply looks too fake......like a Black man who tried to turn himself in to a White woman.
 

I'm not sure if there's a price high enough to pay for taking away an innocent person's freedom.

One of the problems not just in New York but all over the nation is because the public doesn't know how the Criminal Justice system is SUPPOSED to work and they don't know the difference between JAIL and PRISON.....a lot of our brothers are going into these jails and not coming out for years at a time as they await "trial".
Many of them are literally getting "lost" in the system.

ProfD

 

Right. I'd like to know why AfroAmericans didn't build a whole bunch of sh8t starting in the 1970s.

 

I'll give you 2 answers:

1. Heroin

2. Integration.

Integration was by far the BIGGEST reason because before so-called "integration" Black folks were doing far better than any ethnic or immigrant group in the U.S. today outside of the Anglos or Jews.
We had our stores, bus lines, schools, entire towns, etc...
You name it, we had it.

 

But so-called integration tapped into the "laziness" of our people and convinced many of them to sell off most of their institutions and beg and sue to be apart of White institutions in the 60s and 70s.

They let Black people in JUST LONG ENOUGH for them to abandon their own businesses and let them collapse.
Once the Black businesses were gone....then they started kicking Black folks out of White ones and repealing affirmative action.

 

On 2/21/2024 at 8:12 AM, richardmurray said:

oh @Pioneer1 midwesterners, what card games you play over there, uno?

No card games.....we shoot dice....lol.

On 2/21/2024 at 5:02 PM, ProfD said:

 

 

AfroAmericans should be religiously doing everything within our power to own our proper share of America through reparations.

I'm with you right up to the point you say THROUGH Reparations.

The reasons why is because although we DO deserve Reparations and I sincerely believe that not only will we get Reparations but us and our descendants are actually going to get FAR MORE than many of us deserve.
However, the AfroAmerican community shouldn't put all of their eggs in the Reparations basket.

The Honorable Booker T. Washington didn't wait on Reparations.
The Honorable Marcus Garvey didn't wait on Reparations.
The Honorable Elijah Muhammad didn't wait in Reparations.

These men....and I can't forget about our sista Madame CJ Walker the first female millionaire....didn't sit around waiting on White folks to "do the right thing" and give our people what they are owed.
They knew how lazy many of our people were and how many of them would use any excuse not to get up and do some work.

I really believe that when a FACTION of us (because I don't believe most of our people currently here will get on board) codify and unite in the agenda of community building and nationhood....THEN the Reparations will come because we will properly demand them.
And the beautiful part about that is by that time we'll have Black institutions to PUT the Reparations money in!

And here I am at work sitting up asking the Africans why they don't want to sit with and have more friendly contact with their AfroAmerican brothers and sisters.....lol.

Turn on the news and I'll have my answer.

Infact, I was talking with this young sista from Mali......beautiful sista...about this very incident the other week!
She's got a sister in St.Louis.

We didn't know what color the shooters were but people thought it probably was some Black youth and we were talking about this an other subject.
She was in her 20s and much too young for my tastes but I absolutely enjoyed the feminine vibe and the INTELLIGENT conversation....man I love it!!!!

Next thing you know some autistic brother (who is 35) came walking past us rapping to himself and jerking his hand talking about some damn "bang bang" sound.

The sista  actually GRABBED the brother....she's small and petite and he's normal sized....but that didn't stop her from grabbing him....lol.

She grabbed him and said in that cute Africa accent:

 

 

"Why?? 
Why 'bang bang' for bruda???"

 

And she was SERIOUS with that question!
She SERIOUSLY wanted to know why this nigga was walking around rapping about shooting people!

It was innocent...yet profound at the same time.

He couldn't answer the question and then started looking crazy....then started looking at her up and down like he wanted to eat her alive...lol.
If yall knew the situation....this particular nigga said he didn't like Black women and wanted a Latina so bad....but he started cheesing and melting over that LITTLE bit of attention she gave him.

Anyway......

She then she tried to pull him into OUR conversation.

I talked with them a while then I left and got back to work.
She was ANGRY that I left her alone with that fool and said it took 2 hours for her to shake him off her her....lol...but hey.


I'm almost CONVINCED now that the key to TRUE "Black Unity" is actually BLACK SEPARATION.

The intelligent and righteous among our people need to separate themselves from the fools, thugs, and slave-minded dead weight who are holding the community back.

Intelligent Black folks....regardless of sex, religion, or nationality WILL find a way to get along with eachother and work together if we loose the dead weight.

 

On 2/21/2024 at 11:18 AM, ProfD said:

Make an announcement that there will be some kind of party with FREE food, drinks and entertainment and Black folks will unite.

You KNOW what our brother Neely Fuller Jr. says about Black folks "uniting" and "getting together".....lol.
Especially when there is no solid and well detailed agenda for them to follow from beginning to the end.

From the moment the FIRST Black man walks through that door....keep them busy with something to do!
No time for idleness.
Keep them busy as bees from the beginning until the last car pull out of the parking lot.....lol.

 

Troy 

I can't offer any constructive criticism for the simple reason that I don't know enough about your business or line of work to criticize it....lol.

However, I would say about  so-called "online Black entrepreneurship" in general.......

 

 

 

Our people need to stop being lazy and trying to do EVERYTHING  online because they don't want to do the physical work it takes to maintain a 4-walled establishment.

I see Asians, Latinos, and other groups coming to the U.S. opening up restaurants, construction companies, and other old fashioned businesses and are making money hand over fist and many of them don't know the FIRST THING about using a computer.

Meanwhile niccaz all over the internet....on Youtube, on X, on Tiktok, on Instagram.....you name it a the niggaz OWN it.
Want to start a web channel so they can sit on their ass all day eating and drinking and running their mouth.
Not building an establishment like a bank, or grocery store, or farm.....just TALKING AND TALKING AND TALKING and getting into beefs.

And what are our people talking about????

Mostly 3 things:

1. Racism and how other folks are treating them.
2. Sex and sexuality themed content
3. How to make money.....usually by promoting some scheme that DOES NOT involve doing physical work like investing in bit coin or some shit.

I didn't mention "beefing" and fighting with other Black content creators simple because that's the common thread that is found woven through most of those 3 subjects...lol.


Don't misunderstand me, I know the internet is a NECESSITY today and I also know that social media is a useful tool when used correctly.
But it should ASSIST us in building a greater REAL LIFE society for ourselves instead of a false "cyber" one.
 

I think it's a pretty broad generalization to say that the Blacks who supported the so-called "war on drugs" were traitors.

We know that the so-called "war on drugs" is actually a war on AfroAmericans and poor people and an effort to lock up as many people as they could trap.

However, several things to keep in mind...........


1. When heroin hit the AfroAmerican communities in the 60s and 70s and crack hit the AfroAmerican communities in the 80s....MASSIVE devestation resulted including a huge increase in crime, violence, and the destruction of families.
Most Black folks don't see the White hand behind this.....they just see niggas on the street with gold chains on their necks grinning and selling and pulling gat popping at eachother.
So they wanted THEM off the street to make the community safer and you can't really blame them.
Few people want to live in a damn WAR ZONE, so they petition the government to do something about it.


2. I would actually argue that those SELLING THE DOPE would be consider more traitors to the Black community than those who asked the government to step in and lock them up.

I'm not going to sit up and get angry at old retired Percy Earl for calling the police or going down to city hall and raising hell because he can't sit on his porch and stare at the young ladies walking by his house anymore with all the shooting and fighting going on in his neighborhood.



"Damn....
Can't even sit on the damn porch no mo' !"
 

I'm NEITHER a Democrat nor Republican because I trust neither.
I used to trust Democrats back when I was much younger and never trusted the Republicans, but I'm not affiliated with either party now.

Having said that......

I will say that there are several reasons the Democrats are losing their Black base:

1. They have a fucked up marketing strategy towards AfroAmericans.
In many cases they don't have one at all and have been taking the Black vote for granted.

 

 

2. They don't have an agenda for the upliftment of working class people anymore, which is what helped build the Democrat party to begin with.  Most Black Americans are working class or poor and they aren't really addressing those issues.

No talk of Universal Healthcare.
No talk of free college education.
No talk of increasing and expanding welfare benefits

Democrat leadership seems to JOIN the Republicans of trying to kick people off "the dole" so they can give the money to Ukraine and Israel.

3. The Democrat party is an "big tent" party with too many conflicting interest groups being represented within it.
Most AfroAmericans are heavily influenced by the church and it's values so when the Democrats push LGBT issues or Abortion rights...it turns off a lot of AfroAmericans who'd ordinarily support the party.
Republicans CLAIM to be anti- LGBT and anti-abortion...they aren't...but they CLAIM to be and that attracts a lot of religious AfroAmericans.

4. The newest reason the AfroAmericans aren't supporting the Democrat party is due to the massive influx of illegal immigrants who are mostly Latino and how they're being pushed into mostly Black communities now.
That right there is pissing a LOT of AfroAmericans off and many of them say they'd vote for Trump just on that issue alone.

Not sure why, because Trump wants them here just like Biden because they're a cheap labor source and they're hoping they will "replace" the Black population....but silly negroes STILL believe Trump will actually seal off the border and send them back.
 

On 2/17/2024 at 7:56 PM, richardmurray said:

@Pioneer1  I comprehend the why , i asked if you agree. If you do then what do you think can happen to strengthen this time. 

 

You did?
Sorry, I didn't catch that part.....lol.

The more contact we have with each other.....the more it will strengthen.

But if we were to give the White folks back their language...how would we communicate with eachother???     

Troy

 

 

it is curious you dodged my direct query about my Blackness from your perspective.  Don't worry about offending me

 

Lol..what???

Man, why would you ask that question???

 

Most AfroAmericans have "some" White and Native American ancestry  in their family line but you didn't say you were mixed so as far as I know you're a typical Black American AfroAmerican.

 

 

 

 

 

ProfD

 

Drop those same folks in the middle of a KKK rally and let's what they call them
 

Useful tools....lol.

 

Troy

Aaaaaiight Troy.......you'z a sho' nuff BLACK MAN!

Lol....satisfied now???

 

Unity is key, however we have to be united under the PROPER agenda.

You have over a million Black men "united" in the penal system, but they are almost powerless.

Black men have to be united under the correct mindset with a plan of action.

Troy

Probably because I don't think there's any such thing as  "Harlem" accent.

Although a few AfroAmerican women that I know who are from The Bronx DO speak with a "New Yorican" Latina type accent instead of the typical Eastcoast one so many other Black New Yorkers have.
They all sound like Rosie Perez...lol.

 
ProfD

 

 

Most Africans are looking for a better life so they'll keep their heads down and work to stack paper. They accept racism as part of the cost.

 

I know, and I don't blame them one bit.
It's wise to do what's best for your life and don't get caught up in the politics of a nation you know little to nothing about.

 

 

 

Africans actually love AfroAmericans but 1) media propaganda has led them to believe the worst about AfroAmericans and 2) in a warped way they feel like AfroAmericans should do more to help them despite the fact that they sold and left us here.

Well, to be honest I really do think we SHOULD have more to offer them myself.
We've been in this nation long enough to have hospitals, stores, and industries as well as housing and entire communities not only for ourselves but for other's who want to live with us.

 

We should be able at this point TO provide jobs and housing for ourselves and others.
If not on the scale of Caucasians, atleast far more than what we have today.

 

 

It would be great if Africans had their home countries on lock and built real strategic alliances with AfroAmericans as investors.

 

Large scale investment in most African nations by our people would probably require the type of security that is provided by private contractors like the U.S. military uses.

If we invest in projects and start making the type of returns we wish to see, you KNOW it will invite "pirates" to the party...lol.

ProfD

 

there hasn't been a Minister Farrakhan equivalent in the Black community. No leadership.

 

I agree that there hasn't been a leader on Minister Farrakhan's scale among todays young Black leadership but I would actually disagree that there is NO leadership today.

I think one of the problems is there is TOO MANY "leaders" and "spokes persons" in the AfroAmerican community today each with their own selfish agendas pulling many of our people in different and often opposing directions.

 

Umar Johnson is pulling you one way.
Al Sharpton is pulling you another.
Tariq Nasheed and his FBA movement is pulling you another.
Then you have the Hebrew Israelites and their leaders.

 

The AfroAmerican community is far more divided today than it was back in the 50s and 60s where you basically only had the Nation of Islam, the Black Church, and the streets.

 

 

 

 

 

richardmurray

 

yeah farrakhan wasted that march with no plan, whatsoever. him and the others told over a million black men to come and only could chastize or tell them what they already know, not have a plan. And white power wasn't why, it was as often in modern times, poor black leadership 

 

I wouldn't say there was NO plan.
Just not a lot of follow up.

 

He told Black men to go back and get involved in their community and get politically involved as well as register to vote.
Find your children, get involved in their lives and focus on building Black businesses.

I know...vague instructions...but SOUND instruction none the less.

 

The question is how many Black men actually went back and DID what they were instructed?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Troy

 

 

did you go to the MMM?

 

Absolutely!

 

 

  Where did you get the 2 million number.  I was not there, but 2 million is a BIG number, an order of magnitude more than the 250K who are estimated to have attended the March on Washington.

 

Admittedly, I got it from the Nation of Islam themselves.
I went to the March and by 8 or 9 o'clock it was announced on the mall that we had already reached 1 million!

 

The media put the number at around 400,000 but I honestly believe well over 1 million Black folks attended that event because I know the White media does lie and like to downplay Black achievements.

 

 

 

 

If 2 million Black people decided to do something together that would be powerful and unprecedented, there would need to be an umbrella organization to coordinate all the other organizations.  2 Million Black people could seed the organization with an initial $500 contribution and easily raise a billion dollars.  What would we do?  Fight for reparations?   

 
If 2 million Black folks in America were truly united:

1. We wouldn't have to fight for Reparations we would actually GIVE OURSELVES Reparations....literally by forcing through the necessarily Federal Legislation for it.

2. However if 2 million Black folks were truly united we WOULDN'T NEED Reparations.
It would just be the icing on a much bigger cake that we would build for ourselves.

Although we DESERVE Reparations and I expect that at some point in the future we WILL get Reparations.....the fact is many of our people ARE looking for a "hand out".
They don't want to work and build wealth the old fashioned way so they're using the Reparations movement to get a check and some quick cash to give right back to the Whites, Asians, Arabs, and others they are CURRENTLY spending their money with.

If we were TRULY united and on point then we would build banks, businesses, and industries that would generate far more money than what we'd get in even in a Reparations package.

Now see, that's what I mean by a New York accent....lol.

Delano doesn't sound like he's from The Bronx or anywhere near New York (to me atleast) but if you listen to Troy there is NO MISTAKING where he's from....lol.
 

It was a way for Elite AfroAmerican families to marry into eachother to keep wealth and power among themselves.

Making sure wealthy sons would marry wealthy, connected, or well mannered daughters.

It made sense to a certain extent but the COLORISM part is what I object to.
They focused too much on people's color and favored light skinned and nearly White people far too much.

We need something kind of like that today but without the colorism part.
Too many wealthy AfroAmericans men are having children with OTHER races of women and too many AfroAmerican women are having babies by stupid and thug-minded dudes.
We need to encourage intelligent decent AfroAmerican men and women to pro-create and produce more of eachother. 

Jeromex and Black Conservatives (of which I don't believe Jeromex was one I think he was actually White) focus on the MARRIAGE thing.
I don't.

Marriage is nice and good but marriage won't necessarily correct bad or fucked-up genes.

We need to encourage the pro-creation of more inherently intelligent and decent AfroAmericans whether inside OR outside of marriage and the community and family stability will naturally occur.

It's funny how one thing leads to another and then to another............


Been on a "Bumpy Johnson" mission for the past couple weeks....lol.
Can't seem to get enough entertainment or information about the brother since a lot of the old movies I grew up watching were really about HIM but I didn't know it.


I happened to watch one of my favorite Denzel Washington flix "American Gangster" a few nights ago and of course it was about Bumpy Johnson's driver who turned gangster Frank Lucas.
At one point they played a song by Bobby Womack.... "Across 110th Street"...that we started jamming to. 
I downloaded it and was playing it over and over on my way to work.
Then I thought   -wait a minute....I think there's a movie with the same name so perhaps I'll watch that later on when I get home.


Across 110th Street was an old movie from way back in 1972 but for some reason I didn't have a desire to watch it until now and when I watched it I enjoyed it but it too had a character based on Bumpy Johnson called "Doc Johnson".

Hmmm.....

Then I watched Hoodlum...another film based on Bumpy Johnson's rise to power.

Then a few nights later I decided to watch Shaft.....a movie I've seen dozens of times since I was a kid and didn't pay attention to it but out of the blue I notice that the main gangster in the movie was a dude named "Bumpy Jonas"!

Say what??????

And of course there is some Netflix special about him and Malcolm X that I have yet to see.

Seems to me like the brother Bumpy was a PRETTY BIG legend back in the day.

@Troy did you hear any murmurings or legends about Bumpy in your old neighborhood growing up or is this just a lot of Hollywood hype?

 

Troy

The Jack and Jills was SPONSORED by the Boule.

Just one off many organizations that was spawned by it to promote Black elitism.

 

It's funny that I was actually watching this video from this Nigerian dude and decided to check in on AALBC in the middle of it and happened to come across this thread.
He has a bit of a heavy accent but if you can make out what he's saying, he's smart and is dropping a lot of wisdom about how your family treats you as you age......
 

 

When I got fired from my old job for refusing to take the vaccine, was facing homelessness, and ended up finding a new job doing PHYSICAL work at my age.....it was so disappointing.

Part of me was happy that I was able to find SOMETHING to maintain a decent income and keep the bills paid but another part of me was angry and frustrated that I didn't have more and why I wasn't in a better situation.

The actual job itself isn't the best, but one of the things I love about it is the opportunity I now have to work with so many Africans from around the Continent.
I'm not sure why but nearly a THIRD of the labor force I work with are Black Africans from over 30 different African countries!
I'm talking DOZENS and DOZENS.....over 100.

The women are BEAUTIFUL and come in all shapes and sizes!

The men are smart but very protective.

I also notice that the Africans seem to get along with White folks AND Latinos better than AfroAmericans.

I have my theories on why that is, but it's just one of the things I've noticed.

But it seems as if tension between the Africans and AfroAmericans are brewing a bit.....and it's over sex and women.

10 minutes ago, Troy said:

@Pioneer1 what Steph Curry, Lisa, Bonet and Prince qualify for reparations in your book?

 

Last night I was engaging in it typically black activity playing Bid Whist. if you’re unfamiliar with the game, you ain’t black   Seriously, one of the brothers mentioned Jack and Jill, as part of a joke, and no one else knew what Jack and Jill was — even a woman who considered herself bougie.

 

Now, if you would’ve asked me if someone was aged 60 or more and black And never heard of Jack and Jill I would’ve said you’re crazy and here I am in a room full of black folks like this.

 

I would be willing to bet my life that Steph Curry and Lisa, Bonet have heard of Jack and Jill. 
 

Black people coming all shapes sizes and colors. We also come from different cultures some play pinochle while others play spades.

Hadn't even HEARD of "Bid Whist" until you mentioned it just now....lol.
Might be an "Eastcoast Black" thing that didn't make it over to the Midwest.....lol..


Yes, all three of them would qualify for Reparations in my opinion because they are AfroAmerican, though not Black.
So them and their ancestors still suffered from the effects and after-effects of racism and Chattel Slavery.


As far as Jack and Jill.....
It's like the Boule itself from which they are derived from.....MOST Black folks of all ages haven't heard of them because most Black folks don't have the kind of money and social/political connections required to join or even be prospective members of such organizations.

It really depends on the area you're from because Jack and Jill was really big among the Elites AfroAmerican communities  EAST of the Mississippi River like Atlanta, D.C. Detroit, Chicago, and ofcourse New York and Philly.
Out West almost nobody has heard of them.

Also, it is my understanding that the Jack and Jill club was more popular in the COLORIST days where light skinned AfroAmericans were encouraged to mate with eachother and produce more light skinned offspring in an effort to "better" the AfroAmerican community.
That era went out when "Black is Beautiful" came in!