Pioneer1

Chev 

You have not commented on his referencing UNESCO. That is NOT just one reference, that is a global confirmation of what I have been saying in this Black community!

Well.....
That is probably because I'm not sure HOW to comment on it.
 

I guess my biggest problem with a lot of what is being referenced to is the WORDING.

Using words like Hamite, Semite, Negro, ect...
These words are terms Caucasians came up with to cause division confusion among our people and they continue to do so.

If you or brother Tazarah is saying that the original people of the Middle East were brown skinned and black skinned people...I would agree whole heartedly!
But when you start using words like "Hamite" and "Semite" and "of Negro extraction", ect....THAT'S when the confusion and disagreement starts.
Because NOW we're trying to tie in the absolute truth and facts in which there is little disagreement about.....with our RELIGIOUS philosophies and beliefs!  

Hamite, Semite,  Adamite, ect...are terms that are derived from Middle Eastern mythology and religion and like I said before, religion was designed to DIVIDE our people and have them arguing and fighting among eachother

"Listen yall....Jesus was a Negro!"
"Naw man, he wasn't a Negro he was a Semite!"

"It's not SEM-ite...it's SHEM-ite....that's how it's pronounced"
"Both of yall wrong, he was actually a KHAM-ite because Mary was Ethiopian!"

"Her name wasn't "Mary"....fool....that's just the English translation of her name"
 

Just endless arguing and fighting......

15 years from now UNESCO is going to come out with information that CONTRADICTS the information presented in this thread, and then what?
The generation who believes in THAT will be arguing and fighting with those who believe in THIS.

Truth doesn't "evolve" or change every few years.
These people are putting out this crap to keep us arguing over it.

You aren't going to KNOW what happened over there until you GO overthere!
Not reading through a stack of papers some Caucasians or Asians or Arabs at the United Nations whipped up.

We should find out the truth OURSELVES and not rely on Western or Western trained scientists, the United Nations, the Vatican, or anybody else to hand us a bunch of papers  CLAIMING to be "the facts". 
It will ultimately lead to EVEN MORE confusion and division among our people.
 

21 hours ago, Troy said:

 

Someone just texted me an article describing increased violence in Portland. Apparently militia groups are killing protesters with aplomb.

 

Oregon is very white state 78%.  I believe it was even illegal for free Black people to live there.

Lol....
Actually, Oregon is even WHITER than that!
The vast majority of the AfroAmericans in the entire state are piled up in one neighborhood on the northside of Portland.

But speaking of Portland just over night apparently an Agent Orange supporter was shot and killed during one of these clashes:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/30/us/portland-trump-rally-shooting.html


The militia groups were active in Kenosha the night when that 17 year old shot 3 people.
He was apparently a member of one of these militias who came up from out of town to engage the protesters.

I told you that they were going to start DEPUTIZING these racist militias to go out and do work for them!

And also like I said, despite being racist these Caucasian militias  will be killing far more of EACHOTHER than anyone else.
 

Chev

The "giantism" that exists in rarity among a few Caucasians are just genetic mutations and abnormalities.

But what they're calling "giant" in reference to the people of the past was just normal physical stature for our people.

You look at many of temples, pyramids, ziggurats, and other ancient monuments around the planet and they were obviously built by people of great stature and tremendous strength.  That was the NATURAL state of our people for trillions of years until "you know who" came, lol.

Some say eating meat, grains, and other foods our people shouldn't eat reduced the size of the Black man and woman.
However I'm not sure about this.

Like I said, I believe the DNA of our people was somehow altered to the point that they shrunk in size and physical power.

I'm sure you'd agree that Black people are not as physically superior today as our people were 4 or 5 thousand years ago!

Chev

Dr. Wesley is quoted in that piece you selected for me to hear by saying that "Whites are not human"; now Pioneer1 that is so wrong.

To be honest I'll have to go over it again because I don't remember Dr. Wesley HIMSELF saying this.  
I heard sister Janita (the host) attribute that statement, but I didn't hear HIM say it directly.  
Infact, right after she attributed that to him he said they ARE a variant of humanity.  

As for me personally, ofcourse I believe Caucasians are indeed human beings.

Pioneer1, I'd like to know your feelings on the two men that were gunned down while protesting against the shooting of the Black man Jacob Blake in Wisconsin?

It's terrible.

I saw the videos of both men being killed and the third one being shot.

I posted the videos of the last 2 men that that 17 year old kid shot, but the video of the FIRST man he killed I didn't post because I judged that it may be a little too violent for some people to view.

Like I said it was terrible how those 3 Caucasians were shot but I also feel that more AfroAmericans should have been out there to help the Caucasiasn who ARE willing to fight for us.
 

You know Chev, I'm getting a little tired of the indifference and non caring attitude of so many of our people.

You look at these marches and you see far more Caucasians out there shouting and raising sand than AfroAmericans.

You look at how Caucasians have been raising hell in Portland and Seattle for nearly 3 months straight.

But what the hell are most Black folks busy doing?

The Caucasian kid who shot those people was only 17 years old...kept up with current events...and got involved.
But look around in your community and at what the average 50 year old AfroAmerican is talking about and is concerned about.


The entire world is in a battle for or against White supremacy and you got silly negroes running around seminars about investing in Bitcoin.

Totally out of touch with reality.

Focused on any and everything except what they SHOULD be focused on.
 

I said this about a month ago and I'll say it again,  If negroes keep on with this indifferent "not caring" attitude they have towards what's really happening in the world....if they keep burying their heads in the sand, laying on the couch, getting high, and wasting time going back and forth over NON-SENSE.....they better not be surprised if the SINCERE (key word) Caucasians who are out in the streets marching and fighting for THEM right now decided to  STOP because it's too risky.
...and leave them to the racist armed Caucasians they didn't know existed because they were too busy gossiping on Instagram.
 

  "Oh no he DIDN'T just bring his butt over to her house knowing Javon was go be there too!"
 

3 hours ago, daniellegfny said:

I didn’t create my theology and my father raised me atheist.

If you are an AfroAmerican born and raised in America your parents don't have to GIVE you a theology.
That's most common.....but it's not necessary.

Like I said, THE SOCIETY that you were born and raised in will give you a Christian based theology and morality by default where even if you don't go to church or read the Bible on a regular basis you will subconsciously believe in Jesus, in the 10 commandment, in Adam and Eve, ect....

Even most self-proclaimed atheists in the United States believe in a Christianity influenced morality.
Evidence of this is the fact that most of them get MARRIED.

Troy

Man, you know what.....I hear EXACTLY what you're saying.

There is nothing like having a woman's support and approval of what you're doing or trying to do.

That type of backing can energize you and get you to do almost anything because women are the CHEERLEADERS of society!

Whatever you're trying to do, if women aren't recognizing it or encouraging you to do it.....most men aren't going to want to do it.
Even if he STARTS to do it, if the women aren't giving him any attention....he's going to lose motivation and quit.
This is one of the reasons they have cheerleaders in sports.

Like you said, some men have an internal motivating system or a "calling" to do certian things, but most don't.  The "success" of most men is based upon accumulating wealth and attracting women and if he fail in one of those....he's usually not happy.
If she acts like she doesn't care or isn't interested or isn't impressed...this can be devastating to a lot of brothers and kills their ambition.

 

This is related to what I was saying in another thread when you were asking why so many Black revolutionaries marry White women.

Caucasians are masters of deception and because of this most white women know how to stroke a Black man's ego.  She may be insincere and just trying to trick him and steal his wealth.....but  many still  know HOW to do it when they want to. 
They find a brother with his fists pumped in the air shouting "Black Power" and while the sisters just clap for him the Caucasian woman takes him back stage and gives him a blow-job, lol.

That sad part is a lot of good sisters don't even know HOW to properly motivate our brothers and encourage them to be stronger and better and many actually feel funny even trying to.  Which sets them at odds with Black men who naturally crave this.

So the men and women end up going separate ways.

Now as time goes by after years of knocks, tumbles, and fumbles by the time most AfroAmerican women are over 30 and most AfroAmerican men get to be over 40 we LEARN some sense.....lol.
We learn more about what makes the other tick and learn more of what to say and what not to say.  But by then, unfortunately for a lot of brothers and sisters the damage has already been done and they are bitter and resentful.

Most of our people haven't been properly taught the ART of marriage and how just like it's the duty of the men to protect and provide for the women and children...it's one of the duties of the women to CHEER ON the men and encourage them with their femininity and sexuality.
 

Are any of you watching these videos?

Warfare is going on in the streets in 2020.

Caucasians by the thousands are discussing this incident and are plotting and planning their future based on what's happening in the streets of America while some of our people are spending hours on social media going back and forth with eachother  and slobbering over the most MEANINGLESS bullshit that wouldn't capture the interests of a 12 year old with good sense.
 

           "What.....giiirrrlll, what SHE doing on TikTok????

Daniel

Truth is truth and doesn't contradict eachother.
Where there is conflict and contradiction is often people bringing lies and false assumptions to the table THINKING that it's the "truth".

you are talking about a completely different theology. Your myths are your myths and we can’t reach agreement on the point of theology. Our truths will be divergent because we have different destinations and origins.

That's because my theology is based upon years and years of research and comparison to determine how much of the information makes sense, is true, and good for me and my people.

Your theology appears to be  based upon what your relatives and what society TOLD you.

Like most AfroAmericans, you believe in the Bible because that's the religious book that was GIVEN to your ancestors who were enslaved.
You didn't write it or come up with it, you were GIVEN it.

I'm gonna take a lucky guess and say you didn't do a indepth analysis on most of the OTHER  religious scriptures out there, study and compare them to determine what was true;  you just assumed it was and stuck with it.

You were taught since childhood that Adam and Eve was a true story about the first human beings on the planet and you BELIEVE it, plain and simple.

5 hours ago, daniellegfny said:

I also have no problem with labeling those countries as such. If Haiti didn’t have the poverty it has I would not donate money each month to support the Haitian People. 
 If there’s a booger on my face please let me know. 

Allow me to point out a big greasy one sliding down your chin right now......lol.

If you think Haiti is a "shithole country" and have no problem with it being labeled as such, then why donate money to it.

How smart is it for a guy who's already trying to GET OUT of debt to flush money he really doesn't have down a shithole?

3 hours ago, daniellegfny said:

@Pioneer1 you don’t realize how demeaning to Blacks your comments are. 

I'm not sure....
Does Trump know how demeaning his comments about Haiti and African nations being "shithole countries" is to Blacks?

Perhaps the two statements should be offered up as a comparison in a survey to random Black Americans to find out WHICH comments were the most offensive, lol.

 

3 hours ago, daniellegfny said:

I don’t need hand outs and I actually finance his campaign. I have read two of his books. Not a big fan of casinos or The Apprentice. But I admire his accomplishments.

If you had a daddy who was filthy rich and GAVE you millions to play around with.....you probably could accomplish the same.
Especially if you were Caucasian.

@Chevdove

I was listening to this recent lecture by Dr. Wesley Muhammad and I thought of you:

Dr. Wesley Muhammad and Blue Eyed Black People

The bulk of the discussion about Black people who naturally have blue eyes takes place between the 3 hour and 54 minute mark and the 4 hour and 11 minute mark.

You may or may not be interested in the rest of the lecture  which is nearly 6 hours long....but that area is about the blue eyes and the genome traits you often talk about.

Troy

You talking about Hershel Walker with lip gloss?  Leave him alone. That Brother is my age and he has a head full of thick jet black hair.  I saw that brother run 100 meter dash once.  When he said he would run people over that Brother ain't lying. 

Lol.....
Well I'm not the biggest football fan so I don't know WHO the hell he is, I just know he's got on lip-gloss or something greasy on his lips and it ain't right.

When he said he would run people over that Brother ain't lying.  The rest of the stuff I'm not so sure about...

He wouldn't have to run over me.
If I saw a brother with lips that greazy running in my direction I'm going to get as faaaaar out of his way as I can, lol.

I did not watch either convention.

I didn't watch much of either, but I forced myself to watch some of it so that I could comment on both.

The best part of the Democrat Convention in my opinion was seeing Jill Biden.

Man....that's another sexy older woman...lol.
She's 69 years old!

Daniel

America is a nation of Aspirational people. In spite of and because of his flaws people can relate to President Trump. 

Those who kiss his ass kiss it for the same reason most people tend to kiss the asses of wealthy people and billionaires.....out of false hope.

You see, most people have a subconscious belief that if they are nice to rich people and get on their good side then those rich people will like them and give them some of their wealth.

Like Lazarus who stands around under the table of a rich man begging for crumbs and hoping for more.......

"If I'm nice enough to him, maybe Mr. Billionaire will like me enough to slide me a million or two!!!"

But that's not how it works.

Most Americans support the rich because they think THEY will one day get rich, so they don't want to shit on them.
The fact is most people aren't going to be rich but they CAN live a much better and more comfortable life depending on who is in offices and what economic policies are in place.
 

Troy

Wasn't Australia original populated with people formerly incarcerated in Europe?

Yes.
So was the southern colonies of the United States like Georgia and the Carolinas.

They cleared out the jails of England and gave them the choice to either come here and do the hard dirty agricultural work or get put to death.....lol....they made their choice.

What I found interesting was the island of New Zealand right next to Australia was founded by a higher "caste" or upper class of England and it's much more peaceful than Australia.  Infact their very English varnacular is different from Australia's!

There are a LOT of similarities between the the Caucasians in Australia and the Caucasians in the southern United States from their open racism, to their wild-west attitude, to their love of guns, ect......

If you believe that "criminal behavior" is passed down through generations like some racists would believe.....is there any wonder why the United States and Australia tends to be more violent and  than Europe because of their having been founded and populated by violent criminals.

Delano

Have you been to Australia or met any Australians?

Yes, ofcourse.
 

I have to admit.....

When I first started reading this I figured it was just another corny poem that was misplaced from the Poetree section -until I got to this part:

 frustrated that you have to work twice as hard to get a nod - having to pat your own self on the back when you know that recognition is due. 

That got me right there!
Felt it!

Sometimes just hearing someone articulate how YOU feel is enough to raise your spirits.

Thanks Sis!
 

Troy

((from a conversation in another thread))

Is this for real? I did not know this.  Seems Sistas like Ilhan are the rule, not the exception.  He does not strike me as Muslim either.

Yep.....
And the few times I've hit on Somali women the biggest excuse many of them use for not dating AfroAmerican men is that they aren't allowed to have sexual relationships with NON-Muslim men.

But just like Ilhan Omar,  the model Iman....who is also Somali...had sexual relations with and even married a non-Muslim Caucasian man.

Like Neely Fuller Jr. said, you can CALL yourself whatever the hell you want......
Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Buddhist, ect.......

But "White Supremacy" is the strongest religion on the planet.

Powerful White men will make you put your "religion" TO THE SIDE and do what the hell they want you to do!

Look at how Dubai is selling beer and liquor in the middle of Muslim lands.
 

Daniel

Do you understand what you just said here and how it contradicts your earlier statements?

Don't confuse YOUR misunderstanding of my past statements with them being "contradictions".

I may say one thing and you read it but THINK it means something totally different based on YOUR interpretation.

I'll say Hebrew and people will think I was talking about Jews.
I'll say Negro and people will think I was talking about Blacks.

Just because someone doesn't know what I mean in what I say, doesn't mean I'm contradicting myself.


 

 What people were before Adam? 
 

Africans

Dravidians

Native Americans

.....all these people existed BEFORE Adam.
 

Adam wasn't the first man, he was just the first Caucasian (White man).

What was the cause of the corruption of Paradise? 

The Caucasians were the cause.

They came among the original peoples of Africa, America, and Asia gathering information and spreading lies, starting trouble, and had them fighting and killing eachother so that he could take over and rule them.
 

True

But they are Communists, which is another Caucasian philosophy.
If they can't brainwash you one way.....they'll try it another.

That first "brother" denigrated HIMSELF by coming on wearing lipstick.

What kind of conservative Black man comes on national television wearing lipgloss?

I was able to find MORE footage of the actual shooting that took place:
 

Check out how as he was walking towards the police the people KEPT TELLING THE OFFICERS "Hey he just shot people.  He just shot people down the street!!!"

Instead of arresting the fool, they get IN THEIR CARS and take off past him!

 

Daniel

I'm familiar with everything you just said and NONE OF IT reconciles that goof-ball in a suit claiming that an African boy who had just been kidnapped from Africa and put on a slave ship was somehow given a EUROPEAN name by his Mama!

Now......
If Mr. Tap-dance  Owens MEANT to say that wasn't his name on the way over here but it was CHANGED to a European name after arriving and being conditioned; then that's what he SHOULD have said.
Don't stagger your ass up to a podium, get infront of a world wide audience and get to lying and confusing people with inaccurate speech making a fool of yourself AND your people!

African people around the world KNOW that ain't no African named "Silas Burgess".

But I don't think he did it on purpose.

Like most made-in-America Negroes..he didn't know any better.

The Caucasians gave him a suit, patted him on the back, and sent him out to do his thing................

                                                "It's SHOW TIME YAALLLLL!"
 

Ofcourse.
Most of people ALL races (except for the Caucasians) are believers in either Christian or Muslim today.

Caucasians have been able to go around the planet convincing the original peoples of every continent to abandon THEIR native natural ancestral religions and take on the Caucasian religions in order to control them.
 

But in the case of the Igbo people in specific...
Igbos are the "business caste" of Nigeria and like the Koreans they BECAME Christian in mass in order to do business with the  Caucasians and be more accepted by them. colonists.  But it's not their original religion.

Just like the Somalis had to have are religion BEFORE becoming Muslim, the Igbos had to have a religion BEFORE they became Christian.
 

Daniel

You may have read, but understanding is different. 

And YOU may have read the English translation....but trust me when I say the actual HEBREW is different.
 

Del

You may have missed that police car with the search light on him that backed up.

I didn't miss it, I saw it.
I also saw how he was able to WALK UP to that same car and have an exchange with one of the officers with a gun strapped on him and not one shot rang out.

I didn't say they totally ignored him.
I said they drove past him and he eventually made it all the way back home to another state.

It would seem that if people had just gotten shot and bodies were still on the ground NO ONE with a gun would be allowed to leave the area until the situation was fully under control.
 

Daniel

I have no compassion for Jacob. He was terrorizing a Black Woman.

Well it is my understanding that he was SAVING Black women by breaking up a fight between them.

If you have no compassion for those who terrorize Black women, you should have no compassion for the so-called police officers who killed our sister Breonna Taylor.

Have you never seen Roots? Huff is the name of the family my mother’s matrilineal side starts with. I don’t see how that’s so hard to believe when people are claiming they knew their relative who was a slave. My relatives on the Huffs claim the two brothers who were brought down from the north were never slaves just sharecroppers.

I've seen Roots before.

I'm not exactly sure how that or what you're saying proves anything that Owens clown said.
Silas Burgess is NOT an African name and that would NOT be his name if he were coming on a ship over from Africa...as he alleges.  
Those are facts; no matter how Mr. Owens would want to spin them.