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Chev

 

 

Lol......

If we've gone round after round, I'm sure during one of those rounds I've told you the ORIGIN of the word "Caucasian".

"Caucasian" was one of the first terms used to label the NEW group of people on our planet that most refer to as "White" today.
It means "weak bones and weak blooded".

Another early term for them was "Adamu" or "Adamite".

You said that the original Caucasians were Black, but that's like saying the original Greeks were Black.
You're mixing up the people with the land.

Yes, the original people who lived in the LAND today referred to as the Caucasus mountains were Black.....but THEY didn't refer to themselves as Caucasians and that land at THAT time wasn't called the Caucasus mountains.
They called themselves something else.  


To draw an analogy........

If your family's last name is JOHNSON and yall move into a house.  It is NOW the "Johnson's Residence".
But if the people who lived in that house before you did were named "Smith".....you don't refer to them as the "Original Johnsons", you call them the SMITHS!
The name of the house is determined by those who INHABIT it, and not the other way around.

The ORIGINAL Caucasians just like the ORIGINAL Jews were Caucasians and the mountains are named after THEM but don't confuse them with the land they inhabit which was named something else before they inhabited it.
 

Lol...it means you SOUND the age you LOOK.
You look like  a man in his early 30s and you sound the same.

You don't have the "gravel" in your voice that a lot of men have in their 50s.

But Delano mentioned something about passion in another thread.
Perhaps when a man finds his PASSION and does that which he loves, he finds his fountain of youth.

Troy

 

 

but you won't get very far ignoring it, or making believe it does not exist.

How can you work your way around it if you refuse to recognize it? 

This makes a lot of sense.
It reminds me of those people who deny the existence of different races.

I keep trying to tell them that simply not accepting it WON'T make it go away...lol.

 

 

Right?

 

Riiiiiggghhhht. 
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Daniel

 

 I don’t believe there’s any merit in promoting criminality. 

 

Then I take it you don't celebrate the Fourth of July or the War of Independence!

These events exist because a bunch of "criminals" (or terrorists in today's terms) decided to break the laws of England ILLEGALLY secede from England, steal her property, and form their own.

France is also guilty of aiding and abetting by supplying much of the weapons.
 

If you want to make it right you should move to England, become a citizen, and encourage all other Americans to do the same.

 

 

You don’t get anywhere focusing on the injustice of it. You get there by working your way around. 

 

According to this line of thinking, AfroAmericans shouldn't have fought to end Jim Crow and legal segregation.  They should have just left it in place and  "worked their way" around it....lol.

 

 

 

 

Are you paying Attention to what the Caribbean Community, Nigerian and other African communities are doing when they come here?

 

I don't know if Troy has, but I have.

I also paid attention to the fact that if AfroAmericans hadn't COMPLAINED and FOCUSED on the injustices of America, her systemic racism, and demanded a reform in her IMMIGRATION policies and demanded that more non-Europeans have the right to immigrate here....THEY wouldn't even be here in the United States to enjoy the success they have today!
And neither would the Asians, Arabs, Latinos and other people of color.

 

If they were so smart and got their success through hard work and not complaining they would have been able to do it in their OWN nations;  but they didn't find success UNTIL they came here NOW (as opposed to 100 year ago) !

Why?
Because WE (AfroAmericans) made the grounds of the United States FERTILE soil for them by fighting White Supremacy and systemic racism BEFORE they brought their asses here.

But don't worry, the days of us fighting for these other groups while they turn around and shake their fingers at us AFTER achieving success is coming to an end REAL soon.

We're leaving them behind to the Caucasians that they love.

 

We're going to circle OUR wagons and keep the family tight!

It's DELIVERANCE TIME!
 

We're going to DELIVER  them to the Caucasians they love so much and we'll see how long they last without AfroAmericans fighting for them and standing up to White Supremacy.

 

 

 Charles Schwab comes to mind as a rich and wealthy employee. 

 

The Law of Success in Sixteen lesson provides a mental roadmap. The Strangest Secret explains why people don’t choose wealth.

 

Man, you're all over that Napoleon Hill....lol.

I also am a fan of Napoleon Hill's material, but there are things about Mr. Hill and his teachings that you probably don't know or understand.

Did you know much of his material comes from what some may call the "occult"? 
 

 

Chev

 

 

This attempt to target people of color to be born intersexed goes way far back in time!

 

How far back?
It shouldn't go any further back than the existence of Caucasians.

 

 

 

 

Troy

 

 

It's is absolutely true and I've proven it dozens of times.  You just refuse to accept the truth.

 

Please explain to me that an article that highlights the RACIAL DIFFERENCES support what you've been saying about there being only "one" race?

If anything, it supports what I've said about the problem with the CLASSIFICATION SYSTEM in the United States and how erroneous it is....more so than whether or not what they're basing it on exists or not.

The FIRST bookstore in Oregon you should check out (if you haven't already) is POWELL'S CITY OF BOOKS.

 

I used to frequent it a lot when I lived in Portland and fell in love with the joint.

Troy you DO NOT look or sound your age....lol.

I've discovered that many AfroAmerican women have babies with these gangster brothers not because they're good or bad but because they are STRONG.
Africans are NATURAL people and we are in harmony with NATURE....not artificial man-made rules and customs that are often confusing and illogical.
I don't care how educated, church going, or law abiding a man is......the women will choose a STRONG gangster over him because in nature as far as most men are concerned being STRONG is "righteous" and being weak is "sinful". 
And on that same principle it doesn't matter how STRONG a woman is, how many jobs she holds, how religious she is, how smart she is...all of these are noble attributes but a man will take a weak, lazy, always crying FEMININE woman who acts helpless over her because that's what most men find attractive.
 

 

The genocide WILL stop, but it will stop when WE as AfroAmerican men stop it ourselves.

 

If you're laying around waiting on Caucasians to put an end to something THEY started themselves and actually benefit from.....you'll be waiting a mighty long time.
 

Only AfroAmerican men can handle other AfroAmerican men.  Nobody else has the strength and skill to handle us because they don't know us like we know eachother.
And most other people don't have the desire anyway, most are too scared and too weak.
 

I guarantee you that the MOMENT they see strong, organized, and RIGHTEOUS AfroAmerican men marching into those neighborhoods with a serious look on their faces and NO POLICE anywhere around for them to run to for protection (that's right.....the police are PROTECTING these clowns) the fear and dread will be so intense that most of the crime and gang activity will plummet overnight and will continue to decline over time.

 

And I'm telling you all now......

When that happens, most white police officer will just QUIT.
They won't fight or square off with those brothers or challenge them.....they'll just QUIT the force.

If they can't keep crime contained in the ghetto and treat AfroAmericans the way they want to, most of these Caucasian officers will just fucking QUIT and stay in their own neighborhoods and sit on the porch....lol.

 

Chev

 

It seems to me that if a person has BOTH sets of sex organs (male AND female) then it wouldn't be fair or accurate to totally ignore one set and identify them with only the other.

It would be like watching a person eat a hamburger and calling them a "vegetarian" because they are eating the lettuce and tomatoes but totally ignoring the big beef patty they're chopping down on.

Now, if they have a PREDOMINANCE of one set of organs over the other......
Say they have a penis and testicles but only have one ovary and nothing else about them is feminine.....then yes I can see labeling them male.
But hell, if they have BOTH.
EVERYTHING a girl has and EVERYTHING a boy has....then they ARE BOTH.

 

 

 

*BTW, White Supremacists are introducing a lot of chemicals into the environment targeting people of color to influence them into being born intersexed and homosexual.
All types of chemicals are being found in water supplies across the nation and we wonder why so many AfroAmerican children are obese, funny shaped, and sexually confused.

If OTHER people are making the laws and enforcing them, then YOU don't have the ability to accept them or reject them.

The only choices YOU have are to either OBEY or DISOBEY (and face the consequences).
 

There is no such thing as a "free" civilization, by the way.

If there are rules and laws (as there SHOULD be) then there is no "freedom" by it's very definition.

If most Americans were truly "free", so many wouldn't be locked up in jails and prisons.
 

Escaping poverty doesn’t require criminal activity.

 

If Haitians hadn't engaged in "criminal activity" they wouldn't have liberated themselves from French oppression.

What IS and ISN'T criminal depends upon who is incharge and make the rules.

Oh no I agree non-Black people certainly don't like it when AfroAmericans complain about their establishments.
But it RARELY HAPPENS that AfroAmericans complain to them.

 

You go to most ghettoes and the ghetto is FULL of non-AfroAmericans (Koreans, Arabs, ect....) running shitty businesses, selling rotten meat, selling liquor and cigarettes and other things to children.  
Most AfroAmericans either ignore it or if they complain about it they do it to EACHOTHER but not to them.
One brother spent 15 minutes complaining to ME over Arabs selling cigarettes to children instead of going down and yelling at HIM about it.
 

But these same negroes who won't get up in an Arab's face and yell at him about selling GREEN pork-chops with worms wiggling around inside the package...he'll go into an AfroAmerican store and raise HOLY HELL  and start doing flips up and down the aisle about why a can of pork-n-beans costs $2.
 

 

 

"Man....wha'choo chargin' 2 dollars fo' dis shit fo' ????

I can go to wal-mart and get dis shit for 25 cent a can !

Da' hell you tryna do...nicca....ROB folks ????

You tryna ROB yo' people.....DAMN! "

 

.....and even slap bags of potato chips off the counter as he storms out the door.

Our people are often times MUCH harder on eachother for even the SLIGHTEST hint of mistreatment or injustice.

Troy

 

 

"Biracial," again is the language of the culture scientifically it is meaningless.

 

Here is a SCIENTIFIC article (one of many) that clearly acknowledges the difference between races and establishes that some people are MULTI-racial:

 

 

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This article presents the findings of a qualitative study of multiracial individuals’ understanding of identity, race and human genetic variation. The debate regarding the correlation between race, genetics and disease has expanded, but limited empirical data has been collected regarding the lay public’s perspective. 

 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2600806/ 

 

Just admit  that YOU don't want to accept the reality of race, but don't say it's not scientific.
Science certainly acknowledges race!

 

 

 

 

 

White people said Black people were genetically inferior, more animals less than human. This justified permanent enslavement. Trying to convince whites that we were equal was met with violence.

 

This has NOTHING to do with the fact that different races exist.

 

 

 

The resistance to the fact that we are all one race is meeting similar resistance.

 

Lol....
It's called burying your head in the sand and TRYING to ignore reality.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Chev @Chevdove

 

 

This system has exploited the term 'sex' and have defined it on 'their construction' and not true science. They define 'sex' based on what they determine to be Male or female. They assign gender today NOT based on true science. 

 

It is my understanding that science separates SEX from GENDER and that sex as defined today is absolutely based on BIOLOGICAL characteristics (penis, vagina, testosterone, estrogen, ect.....) 

 

Gender is fluid in their definition, but not sex.

 

 

 

 

 

When a baby is born INTERSEXED, today doctors 'assign' a gender based on their construction and for this reason, historically, many intersexed people have been reported to have significant problems due to this non-scientific decision. However, scientifically as as the ancient scriptures say as well, if a baby is born with male organs, then that baby is definitely MALE!!! Now, there are so many variants of intersexed people, for example, some may appear to have more of a female aspect and therefore doctors today will make a choice and then there are new categories made. But science dictates that if that person has male organs, it is MALE.

 

Well from what you're telling me, BOTH are wrong!

Those who will take a clearly intersexed baby and ASSIGN it a single sex instead of accepting the reality that it is both AS WELL AS those who will see an intersexed baby and just slap a "male" label on it and ignore it's female attributes are BOTH in error!

One is just as bad as the other.

 

Intersexed means JUST THAT of BOTH SEXES.

If the truth were told then they would carry BOTH labels and not be forced into one or the other.

And this is the same with race.

 

Under a TRUE and ACCURATE classification system, both races would be included instead of only one while ignoring the other.

 

 

Poverty is a Choice in America. You may be born into it but you don’t have to stay in it.

 

Ofcourse you don't have to stay in it.

 

You can just go to PRISON....where you're no longer officially listed among the poor....by engaging in behavior in your pursuit to escape it!
 

It's interesting how they lock so many AfroAmerican men up for attempting to escape poverty.....but they aren't locking up the MILLIONS of illegal immigrants who are sneaking in here for the same reasons.

Infact, they make EXCUSES for illegal immigrants breaking the laws but won't make any for YOU if YOU break it!
 

It seems to me that SOMEBODY is picking and choosing who they want to stay in poverty and who they are helping to get out.....lol.
 

I wouldn't be suprised.

I haven't spent much time in the region of the United States officially known as "New England" but according a couple of AfroAmericans I've met from there most people in that region SOUND LIKE they are actually from England and have British dialects.

After going to Oregon and seeing AfroAmericans wearing caps with Confederate Flags on them and talking in southern accents.....I'm rarely suprised at what I see out there, lol.
 

Tariq Nasheed talks about this a lot on his podcast because he sells a lot of books, dvd's, and other products online and via FedEx and other services and people FREQUENTLY leave out important information they need to have their products delivered.

 

It's funny the way he talks about them...lol.

 

He says cat's will place an order and give out their credit card number but NO NAME or put down the address but NO CITY or some other silly mistake and then get mad AT HIM when the product doesn't arrive....LOL.

He says  dudes send him emaisl or call him up on his radio show cussing him out saying it's been six months where is the movie at?????
Then they'll tell him,

"Where my shit at????
See....that's why I don't like doing business with black folks cuz dey always fuckin' up!!!!"
 

You can go to a Caucasian restaurant and even if he gives you salmonella poisoning from eating a bad lobster, as soon as you feel better you'll be RIGHT BACK at that same restaurant grinning with him as he slaps you on the shoulder and welcomes you back.....you aren't mad at him.
But if you go to an AfroAmerican restaurant and they just give ONE HUSH-PUPPY less than what you expect to get.....you're ready to cuss them out and not go there again and then tell all your friends not to go there!

"Don't give them niggaz ANY of your money!!!!"

 

Other AfroAmericans angry with you because you're making money.....LOL.
You didn't do anything wrong.
You didn't steal or not deliver the books or other products, so why are they mad or what are they complaing about????

 

 

 

 

"Uuuhmm, so why you making money off of Black folks?????
If you fo' yo' people then why don't you give them books away fo' FREE!"


Negroes come to your establishment and start tripping out like Cinque from Amistad,    "GIVE US FREE....WE WANT  FREE!".,..lol.

 

Man, our people are something else!

 

But the main problem is the PRIDE.

Tariq said and I'm sure you'll agree that  a lot of AfroAmericans even when it's clear THEY made the mistake on their end, don't want to look bad and admit THEY made the mistake so they'll dig and search hard for a way to turn it back on YOU and get the focus off of themselves.
 

People like to talk about how smart Asians are but the thing I've noticed about them is that when they make mistakes they tend to be more HUMBLE in admitting them and apologizing for them while a lot of our people with fight like hell even when they KNOW they are wrong...to avoid being embarassed.
Just don't want to look bad!

Tariq said when people complain to him about not getting their products he'll tell people to check their email for their order receipt and they'll often discover their own mistakes and instead of admitting it and saying I'm sorry, they'll just hang-up or STOP emailing him after weeks of it......LOL.

I'm sure you've done business with enough AfroAmericans to KNOW he's not lying.....lol.

You're probably LYAO right now because of how true it is!

I've learned that one of the first things you do BEFORE complaining about something is make sure the problem is not on YOUR end and make sure YOU didn't make the mistake.  
Most people learn this in their youth after making fools of themselves enough times.
But some fools never learn.

 

Even on this site, I've heard a few people....even Cynique....accuse "somebody"  (really YOU but they won't say it.....lol)  of taking down or removing their posts after they made it.
Maybe someone did or didn't in THEIR cases, but I know that many of the times I've made posts that I didn't see,  it was because I didn't send it PROPERLY and wasn't logged on or something so I make sure THAT is fixed the case first BEFORE accusing you of taking it down or accusing the CIA of removing it.
 

Chev

 

Well, I think that maybe many of the Black people have done the same as you and have come to believe that it's a waste of time to care about other Black people being harmed. 

 

That's not my position.

My position IS NOT that we shouldn't care for other people at all.
My position....or rather one I'm considering....is that perhaps we should stop worrying about or trying to help ALL AfroAmericans and focus on those whom we share similar values, ethics, and morals with.

In other words, perhaps we should stop wasting time and energy on people who are NOT going to be saved from self-destruction and most importantly don't care if they are saved or not.  Perhaps our time, energy, and resources should be focused on helping those of us who care about EACHOTHER.

To draw an analogy.................

Say you and I are the parents of 3 children.
2 of them are smart, do great in school, and stay out of all forms of trouble.
But one of them has poor grades and doesn't try to improve them, always gets into fights in school and out, abuses drugs and alcohol, and now at 19 years old he's been in and out of jail.
We've spent tens of thousands of dollars trying to help him get treatment, stay out of trouble, and stabilize his life....more  money and time than we've spent on our other 2 children combined!
And it's STILL hasn't helped this kid out.
Perhaps it's time to cut him loose, let him go his own way and focus our money and time on our two "good" children and use that money to set them up in their own businesses or further their education.
 

Miracles happen and he may change and if he does we will rejoice, but right now we should focus on the kids who are doing great and are going somewhere and prepare a better future for them.

 

 

 

 

Troy

 

I agree, but I don't think that community exists in America. Indeed, the way America is setup I don't believe it can exist...

If America continues in this Civil War that is occurring right now, I have a feeling that America 5 years from now WILL NOT be structured like it is today.

 

I also believe that under the NEW America me, you, and most AfroAmericans will be far more successful and prosperous than anything most of our people can imagine today.

Under the CURRENT America the true greatness of our people is being held back and restrained but under the NEW America there will be more liberty  (true liberty....not just rhetorical freedom) for us to truly express our potential.

You see, the White Supremacists DO NOT want a truly liberated and open society where the rules are clear and people are free to express themselves...because then THEY would be exposed and our people would no longer be fooled and would see them for who they really are.
They love societies based upon lies, cover-ups, secrets, meaningless rhetoric, dogmatic religions, ect.....that keep many of our people confused and fighting among eachother why they continue to exploit them.
 

Del

 

Electroconvulsive Therapy
Electroshock

 

Lol.....
It clearly didn't work for YOU.

So why would it work for anyone else?

 

 

 

 

 

Chev

 

The word 'Race' is the problem here for me. It is NOT equal to terms used from a concrete, biological categorization at all.

 

The word "sex" is used for concrete biological categorization.
Sexual differences are based on clear and concrete physical, chemical, and biological differences.

Why is "race" not afforded the same respect?

 

 

 

That's just it! Mankind does NOT have that right to make those determinations! Science and reproduction dictates those rules.

 

That would be like saying mankind doesn't have the right to call someone a MAN or  WOMAN or dictate the rules of what makes them different.
Or that mankind shouldn't  name or categorize ANYTHING for that matter.

For me, it's not a matter of who has the right or not, but it's more a matter of how people choose to organize the information they receive so that we are on the same page when it comes to communicating.

 

 

 

 

 

Troy

 

 

That is the same line of reasoning people used to not emancipate Black people

 

Huh???
How so?

 

 

 

 

Again your question is based upon a presumption I don't ascribe to. I do not believe there Black and white people. Their are just people.

I'm not blind and I recognize how you and most other define black and white people so i can speak your language, so to speak.

So are you telling me that you not only PARTICIPATE in but actually help PERPETUATE an idea or concept that which you believe to be false and non-existent?

 

 

 

 

 

 

There is only one race.

We just need to accept this and move on.

 

You mentioned Barak Obama as being a "biracial" man.
If there is only ONE race....how can he or anyone else be "biracial"?

 

Troy

 

Sure, why? I have zero interest in moving to either place. 

 

I didn't ask to suggest that you move there.
Having been to Europe and Canada I noticed that many of the women were much more open and overt in expressing their attraction to African men.
 

They loved and references Dr. King all day every day when he was preaching non-violence and begging for Caucasian acceptance....especially as an alternative to a more militant Malcolm X.

But 3 things changed MLK's perception in Caucasian America:

 

1. Malcolm X was assasinated.  So there was no more "boogy man" alternative to point to for those who wouldn't accept King.

2.  As MLK got older, more mature, and wiser and ESPECIALLY after meeting with Elijah Muhammad.....he realized how ingrained racism was in America and he also saw how evil the society was and wondered whether or not it was worth integrating his people into a "burning house" ruled by people who were on their way to hell.
3. He started preaching against the war in Vietnam and sent veiled threats of Russia taking over.

 

Those 3 things....all occurring in just a 3 year time span between 1965-1968.....soured the taste of MLK in the mouths of so many Caucasian Americans so much that in some places when it was announced that MLK had been assassinated the public actually CHEERED! 
 

Troy

 

 

There are also degrees of exploitation. A 18th century Louisianan cotton farmer was far more exploitative of its workers than Amazon.

 

Really?

Well, as silly as it may seem you just might get an argument out of some over this assumption!

 

Let's look at it.......

-While the cotton farmer's exploitation may have been more intense including the beating of his labor force; Amazon's exploitation is MUCH MORE WIDE SPREAD.
That cotton farmer didn't employ damn near a MILLION PEOPLE all over the planet like Amazon/Whole Foods does.

-That cotton farmer provided his slaves with FOOD, CLOTHING, and SHELTER .
But Amazon doesn't even do that for IT'S employees.  
Their policy is you better take what little we give you and find a way to support yourself with it during your down time!

And most of the time you can't afford to even do that with what they pay.
 

-On top of it, because Amazon is a corporation and the corporate law dictates that you MUST do that which increases profit for shareholders and MUST NOT do anything that decreases profits.....unlike the plantation owner who could be generous from time to time with his slaves....Amazon like most corporations must keep the pressure on both it's managers and workers to keep up production and not let up!
By law they must MAINTAIN a high degree of exploitation to ensure the profits stay up!

 

 

Exploitation is exploitations whether it's slavery, indentured servitude, prison labor, ect..

If you sit down and think about and weigh the pros and cons of each system of exploitations it could be argued that they all seem to  balance  in terms of pain, suffering, and exploitation.
 

Maybe that's why MLK said injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.
 

Chev

 

YES. I agree. And I know a lot of births defects occurred during this time too, due to alcohol Fetal Syndrome.

 

As soon as a lot of our people got a little TASTE of liberty......
As soon as Caucasians took their boots off of the backs of AfroAmericans just a LITTLE bit....
A lot of our people went STONE CRAZY and did as much partying and celebrating and getting drunk and high as they could.

 

I don't know about your neck of the woods, but in the Great Lakes State there were AfroAmerican men AND women* who were making 20 and 25 dollars an hour back in the 1970s on those good union jobs!
They had more money than they KNEW what to do with.

...and ended up wasting a lot of it INSTEAD OF saving it and investing it in buying their own businesses to have something to leave to their children.

Infact, many of them were making SO MUCH money that Caucasians got jealous!

Everytime White men turned around and went outside their house they saw another Black family with a nice car moving into a house BIGGER THAN THEIRS and driving a car NICER THAN THEIRS.  Black men walking around with pockets full of money and gold teeth in their mouths grinning.  They got angry and jealous and decided to do something about that shit.  That's when they started moving most of the factory jobs overseas.

 

 

 

*Women started working more and this helped to destroy the AfroAmerican family structure because it wasn't JUST single mothers who NEEDED good jobs who were doing most of the working.  A lot of our people looked at the money only ONE man was making working at the factory and got greedy ! and said well hell  if one person was working and made that much money then TWO would make TWICE as much!  So husbands would get their wives to work along side of them in the factories and make all this money but NO ONE WAS HOME to watch the children and many of them wandered the neighborhoods and formed gangs like the Latch-key Boys and Young Boys Incorporated.
 

Well......
Let's start with referring to BLACK PEOPLE as  "the Blacks"  or  "fellow Blacks".
Terms most Black people generally don't use when referring to eachother......lol.

Troy

Yeah,
Neither had I heard the term "oreo" attached to someone who was bi-racial until reading this post.....lol.

 

But then again, if we were in a mostly Caucasian setting and another brother ran up to me reaching to shake my hand talking about how glad he was to see another "fellow black" around here and then asked me where we could find some more "fellow blacks" to tarry with.....I'd look at him funny and call him SOMETHING, lol.
 

 

Kevin

 

You speak of a sub-culture that lies between 2 cultures, but you must know that AfroAmericans don't have their OWN culture.

 

There is only one dominate culture in this nation right now and that's the Caucasian American culture.
Americans of other races simply practice various SUB-cultures (deviations) of it.

For example........
A culture has it's own language.
People often speak of Ebonics or "Black English" as an example of us having our own language, but it's actually a deviant and compensatory form of English.
The AfroAmerican diet or so-called "Soul Food" is a deviant and often compensatory form of the English diet.

 

Chev

 

 

Honestly.......

It's not a matter of giving up hope.
It's a matter of re-assesing my priorities and closely examining my beliefs and their validity.

 

I'm seriously beginning to question whether or not MOST AfroAmericans are worth fighting for or unifying with.

And should I just focus on uniting with like minded AfroAmericans in whom we all share similar major goals and values with and try to  form a community with them and not worry about the rest of AfroAmerica.....especially when so many aren't worried about themselves collectively.

 

In other words, I don't want to waste my time and the time of other AfroAmericans who really do care about our future.

Chev, think about it.
Most people who are arguing about the conditions of Black people are a handful of Black people who may have different religions and ideologies but they ALL CARE.
Which is why they are passionate and argue with eachother over the solutions to the Black nation.
But the niggaz they are arguing over DON'T CARE.....lol.
They would walk past the room, the studio, or whereever the discussion is taking place and wouldn't give 2 damns about what 7 or 8 AfroAmericans sitting around in a circle with their legs crossed and some papers in their laps are talking about!
They're looking for some weed to smoke, or some people to harass and beg some money out of!

Why should you...I.....or Troy...come on here arguing with eachother over the cause and extent of the problems of the AfroAmerican community when a large percentage of the people we're arguing ABOUT don't give a damn about themselves or their own children?

It would be better for us to focus on our own separate project WHILE living in the same neighborhood and agreeing to watch eachother's backs from the "evil that lurks without" so to speak.
 

 

 

 

I guess this "lock down" has given a lot of people in America.....including myself....a lot of time to really sit down and think and reflect on a lot of things.....lol.
 

Troy

 

 

Do you appreciate the the huge number of problems your line of thinking...that different races do not exist.....would cause in society?

 

You would only ADD to the confusion and frustration of AfroAmericans who would not only be VICTIMS of racism but would be confused and at a loss over how to explain it or articulate what they're going through.

 

Now, I've heard you use the terms "Black guy" and "White guy".

So if race doesn't exist, what is YOUR definition of a "White person"?
What is your definition of a "Black person"?

 

 

 

Chev

WHEW! Poppycock! LOL. Okay, ... WOW.

@Pioneer1 I am trying to get a better understanding of the term, and your explanation only adds more confusion for me.

 

Well allow me to add some clarity (or perhaps more confusion....lol).......

"Poppycock" pretty much means the same thing as:  TOMMY ROT  or  UTTER RUBBISH  ....lol.

 

 

 

 

To determine that both girls are of "two different RACES" based on this American system's racial construct is for me, the very problem.

 

You actually agree with me.

The fact that race EXIST isn't the problem, it's how race is DEFINED and ORGANIZED that's the problem

Like I've said over and over, RACE ITSELF is a concrete and biological fact....it doesn't change; but RACIAL CATEGORIES are determined by whoever is making the rules.

Just like we as AfroAmericans called ourselves by different names at different periods of history.
Colored one period, Negroes another period, Blacks another period...same people but CALLING themselves different names.

"Colored" people and "Negroes" didn't disappear and go extinct...they just changed names.

 

Just because someone lies and switches up the names and titles he gives people or things....doesn't mean those people or things don't exist.
 

Chev

 

 

Black folks are going to be all the more damaged due to the Black Baby Boomers' actions, more so than the White populations. 

 

Or more appropriately Black Baby Boomer's IN-actions.

The Black Boomers became full adults in the 1970s at a time when good paying jobs with benefits were plentiful AND AfroAmerican businesses were plentiful in many cities like Detroit, Chicago, Oakland, and Philadelphia. ((thanks to the riots of the 60s))

 

It is THEY (Baby Boomers) who instead of thinking about the future and their own children and KEEPING their Black businesses and DEMANDING that these good paying jobs stay in America and DEMANDING that immigrants stay out of the nation unless they look like them in order to secure the wealth and social positions of AfroAmericans at that time....decided to collectively ignore the future and well being of their own children and PARTY their money away at nigh-clubs and disco joints abusing drugs, screwing white women, getting drunk, shooting pool, ect......

Had so much money they didn't know what to do with it.
 

While negroes were laying around sitting on toilet seats with rubber hoses tied around their arms and needles stuck in their veins nodding back and forth with slobber running out of their mouths......
The Caucasian scientists were busy as hell in the laboratories working on CHEMICAL WARFARE.

By the time the 80s came along Crack and AIDS were ready to be delivered.

 

 

But IMO, many poor White people have been conditioned by the ruling classes to believe their interest is being served and they are manipulated to look at the awful oppression of Blacks in order to feel good about themselves, all the while, they are being completely exploited as well. 

 

Poor Caucasians are exploited in MANY ways, but being tricked into being racist and against you ain't one of them.

Little white boys show signs of racism before they are 7 and 8 years old.  Desiring to dominate over the other kids and tell them what to do and what games to play and not to "leave them out" of what's going on in the playground.

 

 

Caucasians don't have to be exploited or tricked into being racist.
They don't even have to be taught!
For most Caucasians, racism is instinctual.
 

 

For the average Caucasian, seeing you as their enemy and seeking to dominate and control you is just as natural to them as a lion seeing a gazelle prancing through the field and has a desire to chase it down and kill it and eat it.
They don't have to be TAUGHT this, it comes to them naturally on instinct.