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  1. Anyway......

    If you notice at the VERY beginning of the video, a young person is being held up by a couple others and someone is saying "they just shot her"!

    Apparently SOMEBODY (the person in the car??) had just shot a young AfroAmerican girl and perhaps the shots being fired at the car is in retaliation to this.

    Does ANY OF THIS even remotely match or line up with the version of things being given in various (ever changing) reports by the Milwaukee Police or mainstream media?


     

  2. Now here is ON THE GROUND footage of Milwaukee police escorting residents of that house out of it and the crowd's reaction.
     

     

     



    Notice how many of those witnesses report MANY CHILDREN being taken out of the home during this police escort.

    I wonder since they "found no evidence of trafficking", did they investigate whether or not all of those kids in that home LEGALLY  belonged to the adults they were with as they escorted them out?

     

    In the above video, also notice how witnesses are describing CHILDREN IN HANDCUFFS being taken out of that house!

    Also, one of the witnesses talks of "niggaz and bitches" being taken out of the house.
    One can believe this may be HIS way of talking about males and females in general regardless of their race.....OR we may believe that dozens of young AfroAmerican boys and girls who apparently were holed up in that house were being taken away.
    Regardless...…

    It's hard to believe you can have a house full of young people.....children.....teenagers....and NOT be suspicious of any kind of trafficking going on in that home!

    More ON THE GROUND VIDEO is coming out of what happened at that home!
    Now we have a video of shots being fired by some AfroAmerican citizens at a car somehow connected with that house.

     

     



    What was the contexts?

    I don't know.

    And not much is being said about it.
    However as you can see in the moments that follow, there doesn't seem to be much police action following this.

  3. As we continue to look the medias' reports and how they continue to add more and more spins and twists to what transpired at the that Old Milwaukee house...……


    According to a local Fox affiliate:

     

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    An hour later, at approximately 11 a.m., officers responded to a ShotSpotter activation at the same house. Officers discovered shots were exchanged between the residents of the home and the group of individuals who were attempting to enter the residence. People who were escorted from the home Tuesday were the residents who live there, police said, taken from the home for their safety due to threats to burn it down. An MPD spokeswoman said Wednesday those people lost their home.

     

    https://fox6now.com/2020/06/24/mpd-seeks-info-on-arson-shooting-near-40th-and-lloyd-girls-reported-missing-in-incident-safe/

     

     

     

    So the Milwaukee Police get a report at 11am that shots were fired FROM that house as well as AT the house, which means that someone on the inside was shooting also.  However instead of finding those inside who were shooting at people outside, they give the a "police escort" out of the house for their own safety?


    Further, if the people inside the house were escorted out of the house before noon....WHO was inside the house to shoot those 2 AfroAmerican teenagers around 5:45pm?
     



    Later on in the article we read:

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    The Milwaukee Police Department confirmed on Wednesday both missing teenagers were located and with their families. MPD interviewed both teenagers who denied going to or being at the residence and denied meeting or knowing anyone who lived at that residence. Police added there's no evidence to substantiate that human trafficking occurred at that location

     

    https://fox6now.com/2020/06/24/mpd-seeks-info-on-arson-shooting-near-40th-and-lloyd-girls-reported-missing-in-incident-safe/

     

     

     

     


     

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    An MPD spokeswoman added there were eight calls for service at the lower unit of the home in 2020. Six of those calls were related to the missing checks, threats and the fire that occurred on Monday and Tuesday. None of the calls were related to prostitution, sex trafficking or human trafficking, she said.

     

     

    https://fox6now.com/2020/06/24/mpd-seeks-info-on-arson-shooting-near-40th-and-lloyd-girls-reported-missing-in-incident-safe/

     

     

    What she NEGLECTED to say was that was nearly A DOZEN CALLS recorded over the past 3 years or so INDEED WAS related to sex trafficking!

    If anyone doubts this, all they have to do is look at the call log in an article linked above to see how many times the police were called to that house since 2017 about missing children and disturbing things going on at that house only for NOTHING to be done about it.

    But the AfroAmerican community DID put an end to it.

     

  4. Chev



     

    REGARDING AKKAD--All secular sources 'on college levels' across the world confirm that Akkad was developed by Sumerian--Black 'Negro' civilization. 
    You are relying on a White man of whom other scholars even in other parts of the world completely have showed that he is wrong. 

     

    You accuse me of making this up and having no sources.....
    I provide them....
    Then you turn around and attack them......lol.

    Just because something is found in college, doesn't mean it's correct.  There are pictures of White Jesus on college walls around the world.....doesn't make it correct.

    Colleges teach the Theory of Evolution, that human beings evolved from apes.  That is college level.....does it mean they are right?

    Again, Akkad means "first" or "one".

    Why would the founders of that city call it first/one if it were founded by Black people who were around millions of years and built many cities before hand?




     

    Absolutely!!! That would be true! The Sumerian civilization was developed much later than the dual-civilization developed by CHANOCH. 


    I'm glad we can agree on something.
    However I wouldn't mix up the Sumerian civilization with the Akkadian civilization.
    Sumerians were the ORIGINAL (Black) people of that land of Mesopotamia and built the earliest civilization before the Caucasians came along and built the Akkadian.




     

    You are giving White Supremacist credit for developing these civilizations-- I won't waste my time anymore with this. 
     

    Well, they call themselves "Aryan".
    I don't know of too many Africans who refer to themselves as "aryan" people.




     

    You say, these Caucasians overpowered a bunch of tall, black skinned giants... LOL. 


    I'm not sure how black there skin was but let us just call them Original people who were most likely of the same complexion of the Africans and Dravidians.





     

    Since you find it unbelievable that Nimrod was a Sumerian Black skinned man could not possibly be that brilliant to have developed an incredible civilization and you believe that
    Nimrod threw down Sumerians as a biracial man on your beliefs and not references, then I won't go beyond this point. 


    I've given you plenty of references but you routinely rejected them or attacked the source.

    You've made up your mind that EVERYBODY back then was Black and there is no convincing you otherwise.

    What more should I do?
     

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    Now as we look at MORE media sources about this incident we find that this SAME home had the police called to it atleast 27 times within a 4 year time frame!
     

     

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    A house burned Tuesday night has a lengthy history of visits from the Milwaukee Police Department. According to its dispatch log, officers have visited the home at least 27 times in the past four years. The house was burned last night by a crowd after members of the group charged that criminals were using the home and others nearby for sex trafficking


    https://urbanmilwaukee.com/2020/06/24/burned-home-had-27-police-service-calls/

     


    You can see the call log in in the article through the link above.

    27 calls, but no arrests?

    27 calls, but no investigation?

     


     

     

     

     


    Another media article reports...…..
     

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    Milwaukee police said the two teens were eventually found, yet didn't say how or where they were safely located. Police only said the teens were not considered endangered and had nothing to do with the house, which was located on the 2100 block of N. 40th Street in Milwaukee.

     

    https://patch.com/wisconsin/milwaukee/3-shot-house-set-fire-during-milwaukee-missing-teen-search

     

     

     

    So the girls were found but Milwaukee they DIDN'T SAY how or when?

    Why not?

    Could it be that the PEOPLE found them...there...in or near the house when THEY surrounded and attacked it?

    Because it seems to me, if what the people did by surrounding and attacking that house was so outrageous and crazy....then the best way to prove them wrong is to tell the public how and when the girls were found as proof that the people over-reacted or got the entire thing wrong.




     

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    "There is also no evidence to substantiate that human trafficking occurred at that location," authorities said in a news release. "The preliminary investigation revealed that no information has been provided to MPD to suggest that the teenagers were at the residence that was set on fire or that any foul play occurred at that location."

    By the time the investigation wrapped up at the house, a crowd of upset neighbors tried storming the house multiple times to find the missing teens, exchanged gunfire with people inside, and pelted police officers with bricks, police said.


    Milwaukee Police were initially sent to the house on the 2100 block of North 40th St. Monday morning to conduct an investigation into a potential sex trafficking operation. Police said officers searched the house several times, only to have their search come up empty.

     

     

    https://patch.com/wisconsin/milwaukee/3-shot-house-set-fire-during-milwaukee-missing-teen-search

     

     

     

    Notice the WORDS here!
    Mr. Fuller tells us to watch how White Supremacy works and listen carefully to the WORDS being used.

    They didn't say there was NO EVIDENCE that those missing girls were at that residence or that foul play occurred.
    They said the PRELIMINARY INVESTIGATION revealed that they weren't there!

    Premliminary means BEFORE THE REAL THING BEGINS.


    So they COULD HAVE been discovered to have been there after the ACTUAL INVESTIGATION....while it wasn't noticed during the preliminary one.


    And again  notice that it said as the investigation was wrapping up there was an EXCHANGE OF GUNFIRE between people inside the house and those outside.

    Which means INVESTIGATORS....UHHH....POLICE OFFICERS!!!!!.....WERE ACTUALLY THERE!

    There to witness the gunfight AND people get injured.....including 2 children.

    But no arrests?


     

     

     




    *Now for those of you who are reading through all of these article excerpts and commentaries I've posted trying to figure out what I'm talking about..….SO AM I !!!

    Like you, I TOO am trying to figure out what is going on here because the media AND the Milwaukee police department seems to be giving the public confusing and contradictory information about that house and what actually took place a couple days ago!

    Infact, it seems as if the ONLY time they tell anything half-way close to the truth is when those who WERE THERE release video footage of what actually happened and they are forced to re-cant any lies or contradictions they told earlier.

     

    Like I said, something strange is going on.
     

  6. Now as we look into OTHER media sources about the incident we read......

     

     

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    A crowd of people angry about the disappearance of two girls burned a vacant home and a van in Milwaukee on June 23, after people accused police of not responding quickly enough to concerns the girls were being sex trafficked at the dwelling. You can watch videos from the scene later in this article. Be aware that some of the videos have graphic language.

    https://heavy.com/news/2020/06/watch-milwaukee-crowd-burns-down-suspected-sex-trafficking-house/

     

     


    So NOW they're saying that the home was "vacant".

    But didn't we just read from another source about that there were people INSIDE the home shooting at the people outside?




     

    Now the Chief of the Milwaukee Police said:
     

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    He said that one of the two missing girls was located, and police were still trying to locate the second girl (activists say both were found.) Morales said police didn’t get the cooperation they needed from family. “This whole chain of events could have been avoided,” Morales said.

     

    https://heavy.com/news/2020/06/watch-milwaukee-crowd-burns-down-suspected-sex-trafficking-house/

     

     


    Outside of the fact that there is a dispute between the police and activists about whether or not one of the girls are still missing...…

    Outside of the fact that according to the report the girls weren't "critical missing" and didn't qualify for a team to look for them NOR did they qualify for an Amber Alert...…

    Now it appears that Chief wants to ATTACK THE FAMILY of the missing girls and accuses THEM of starting all the trouble!

    How can he accuse the family of getting in the way and not cooperating with something THEY THEMSELVES were reluctant to do in the first place?

    Also, when was the last time you heard a police officer AT ALL let alone the CHIEF police officer actually ATTACK the family of the victims in the media?


    But let's move on...…

     

     

     



    Now, there were people on the ground at the scene who actually provide a VIDEO disputing what the Chief told the press:

     

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    In one of community activist Frank Nitty’s widely viewed livestream videos from the scene, a different story was told. You can watch one of those videos here. It gives the side of the community members in great detail:

     

     

    https://heavy.com/news/2020/06/watch-milwaukee-crowd-burns-down-suspected-sex-trafficking-house/

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     



    Frank, the community activist goes on to say:

     

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    “They said there were a couple of little missing kids in this house,” Nitty says in the video. “It started with this house, missing kids. When the people called the police, the police came and didn’t do sh-t basically, so the people decided themselves to come back to the house. People came to the house, they said people left the house, little kids left the house. So, when they came to the door, people started shooting throughout the door. Then the police came and arrested the people for shooting through the door. The detective told me he didn’t find any evidence of the missing kids in the house.” Community members then got word that the kids may have gone to a different house. The kids “started to run” and people chased them through a park.

     

    https://heavy.com/news/2020/06/watch-milwaukee-crowd-burns-down-suspected-sex-trafficking-house/

     

     

     

    So according to THIS man:
    -In this SAME HOUSE that was called vacant by the media.
    -In this SAME HOUSE that police allegedy went to but didn't find anyone
    …..he's saying some people went to the house and gathered up a bunch of children and some of the children TRIED TO RUN AWAY and those people chased them through the park!!

     

     

     


     

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    He said people decided to enter the home and find evidence. They found shorts with blood on it. They believed a person in the house was a sex offender. He said “police haven’t been doing anything about it,” referring to sex trafficking rings. People are trying to “take our city back.” He said the police were standing in front of an alleged sex trafficker’s house

     


     

    So the Police went to the home and said they didn't find anything, but the PEOPLE went into the home and found shorts with blood  on it!
     

     

     

  7. Ok, so the police are saying that 2 girls who've been missing for more than 2 days didn't fit the criteria for "critical missing".
    Whatever that means........
    Nor do they qualify for an Amber Alert.

    Hmmm, interesting.
    It looks as if in Milwaukee the standards are HIGH for girls to be considered even worthy of looking for when they come up missing, but l
    et's continue...…


    In that same article from the Journal Sentinel we further read:

     

     

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    Police reported a boy and a girl, both 14, were shot near the scene around 5:45 p.m. and suffered injuries that were not life-threatening.

    Then a 24-year-old man was shot near the scene around 7:30 p.m. as someone fired shots at his vehicle, police said. He refused medical treatment and his injuries were not life-threatening.

    Seven police officers and one firefighter were injured in the unrest, Morales said.

     

    Police responded to the home multiple times Monday and Tuesday to check for the missing girls, Milwaukee Police Chief Alfonso Morales said, but officers did not find them.

    Then around 10 a.m. Tuesday, a group of people looking for the girls went to the home, Morales said. Police responded to the scene as well for a "trouble with subject" call and did not locate the girls.

    Police then responded again around 11 a.m. after there was an "exchange of gunfire" between someone inside and someone from a group of people trying to get inside, Morales said. No injuries were reported.

     

    As crews were fighting the fires, the unrest escalated. Two 14-year-olds were shot — not by police, Morales said

    Police fired tear gas, rubber bullets and pepper spray at some protesters, according to Sensabaugh’s livestream. Several people appeared to be injured, and volunteer medics were treating them — pouring milk on eyes and wrapping limbs.

    Morales defended the use of force, saying police needed to make sure the scene was secure for fire crews to work as well as provide aid to one of the people shot in the crowd. 

     

    https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/local/2020/06/23/milwaukee-missing-girls-crowd-grows-rumored-sex-trafficking-house-shooting-fire-starts/3246406001/

     

     

    Now a FEW things that I highlighted in bold-red stood out for me...…..........



    1. There were shots fired at people at/outside that house TWICE on Tuesday, yet we don't read ANYTHING about anyone being arrested.

    Three people were shot and injured, including TWO 14 YEAR OLD CHILDREN.....but no arrests??????

    According to the article the police weren't there for the FIRST shooting at 11am, but they most CERTAINLY WAS THERE at the 5:45 shooting because the place was SURROUNDED by police and firefighters.....yet 2 children were shot and NO ARRESTS!

    But the Milwaukee Police Department made sure to let everyone know THEY DIDN'T shoot anyone!

    Damn.


     

    Police and fire fighters all over the area.
    Yet no suspects or atleast no arrests for all of this shooting going on!

    And while the police haven't reported WHO did the shooting into the crowd, they made sure to report that THEY aren't the ones who did the shooting.



    2.  Also, the report is that this shooting was going on between someone INSIDE of the home and those outside.

    Keep in mind this report of someone being INSIDE the home as we continue further.


    3. At 7:30....assuming the police were still there.....a 24 year old man was shot in his car!

    Again, NO REPORT OF ARRESTS for who shot this man!


    So you have all of this shooting going on and people getting injured while the place is SURROUNDED by police, yet nobody gets cuffed during this exchange....WTF??


     

     

     

     

  8. At first we see this tweet by our brother Tariq Nasheed letting us know what's going on in Milwaukee...….

     

     


    So I dig into the story to try to get some more information from other media sources.

    And I fine THIS report in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel:
     

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    3 shot, house set on fire at scene of investigation into missing Milwaukee girls

     

    What started Tuesday as a missing-persons investigation morphed over the course of several hours as tensions about police treatment ran high and rumors spread online.

    By nightfall, three people — including two 14-year-olds — had been shot, a house was set on fire, and police had fired tear gas and pepper spray on some members of a scattered crowd of hundreds who'd gathered outside a Milwaukee house where police earlier conducted an investigation into two missing teenage girls.

    Both girls, ages 13 and 15, have been located as of Wednesday morning, police said. TV stations reported that the girls had last been seen Sunday evening.

    Police are also investigating whether the girls may have been victims of sex trafficking, police spokeswoman Sgt. Sheronda Grant said.

     

    The two girls had not been considered critical missing and did not meet the criteria for an Amber Alert, Grant said.

    The crowd that gathered Tuesday near the police investigation in the 2100 block of North 40th Street was a mix of neighbors observing the situation, people expressing frustration with police and activists who'd marched in Milwaukee's racial justice protests.

    Some wanted to take the investigation into their own hands. Others joined the melee to express their grievances with police violence in general.

    https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/local/2020/06/23/milwaukee-missing-girls-crowd-grows-rumored-sex-trafficking-house-shooting-fire-starts/3246406001/

     

     

    Ok, before we go any further let's just stop right here.

    You have a 13 year old girl and a 15 year old girl who had been missing SINCE Sunday evening, about 2 days before the events took place but they're saying THAT didn't "fit the criteria" for an investigation or even an Amber Alert?????

     

     

     

     

     

  9. Troy @Troy

     

    I just looked at the breaking news that New York, New Jersey, and Connecticut just announced they will quarantine people coming from states with high Covid-19 cases that are mostly in the South.

    I believe THIS ACTION by those three states has just now made the ongoing Civil War MUCH MUCH hotter.

     

    Don't be suprised if some of the southern states don't retaliate against the citizens as well as the governments of New York, New Jersey, and other East Coast states!

     

    I'm interested in what you have to say about this as well as how you think it will affect YOU going back home from time to time since Florida is on the quarantine list.

    Are you willing to be quarantined for 14 days just to go back home?
     

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    Shaun King: ‘Statues of the White European They Claim is Jesus Should Also Come Down’

     

    The recent spate of statues of historically known racists or those engaged in racist behavior being removed, toppled and/or desecrated, has caused King to also call for the removal of statues of a Euro-centric Jesus Christ. For years, the skin tone and color of Jesus have been in dispute based on the origin of his roots.

     

     

     

    THE NEGATIVE EFFECTS OF (WHITE) JESUS ON THE AFRICAN COMMUNITY

     

     

     

    https://www.blackenterprise.com/shaun-king-statues-of-the-white-european-they-claim-is-jesus-should-also-come-down/

     

     

     



    Shaun is spot on with this observation.

    It's been known for decades that the images of Jesus and even  God being depicted as a Caucasian man has being one of the most effective tools of racism as it burns the idea of Caucasians being divine and god-like into the subconscious of many people of color who grow up around those images.

    However, I suspect that if people DO start smashing and knocking down those images of Caucasians that have been LABELED as "Jesus".....some of the protesters may end up making more enemies than they expected.


    Infact,  I suspect many of the female protesters of color will be adamantly  against this campaign.

     

     

     


  11. Many AfroAmerican conservatives are smart and have a keen sense of morality.  So they often choose the conservative idealogy and join the Republican party based on it's RHETORIC rather than it's actions.

    That can be understood and in many respects excused.


    Problem is, many people like Larry Elder and Candace Owens even after UNCOVERING the racist hypocrisy of the Republican party and Conservative movement continue to support  it.  They do so for the benefits.  Money, political office, good jobs, as well as RELIABLE ALLIES (Caucasians Democrats can't be trusted to have your back as well as Caucasian Republicans).
    While this is understood, I don't think it's a valid enough excuse to collaborate with the open destruction of your own people.


    Jesse Lee Peterson is a GOOD example of a negro who KNOWS the rampant racism and hypocrisy of the Conservative movement in the United States yet he still continues to support them every chance he gets to the point it's absolutely comical.

     

     

    quote-we-are-good-citizens-and-we-cannot

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    Correctional officers file racial discrimination charges against Ramsey County jail

    Officers say they were barred from working on floor where Derek Chauvin was being held

     

    Eight correctional officers of color at the Ramsey County jail say they were barred from interacting with the former Minneapolis police officer charged with killing George Floyd when he was booked into the facility.

    In discrimination charges filed with the Minnesota Department of Human Rights, the correctional officers say they were reassigned or prevented from working in the unit where Derek Chauvin was held last month — against standard protocol — and replaced with white colleagues. They also allege Chauvin was given special treatment in his brief stay in the jail before being transferred to the state prison in Oak Park Heights.

    https://www.mprnews.org/story/2020/06/21/correctional-officers-file-racial-discrimination-charges-against-ramsey-county-jail

     

     

     

     

  13. Lol....
    Yeah, I saw that special Dave Chapelle did and where he mentioned Candace.
    I don't remember seeing Dave so serious and so angry as when he was talking about the George Floyd situation.

    He was also more militant than I had ever heard him before, even bringing up the Christopher Dorner (Black LAPD officer accused of going on a killing spree) incident.

     

    As for Candace...…

    Yes, she is an attractive and smart young lady but like most AfroAmerican conservatives, she is CONFUSED and is a  TOOL for White Supremacy although she does bring up some good points.
     

    Personally, if I had my way I wouldn't have centered the injustices of law enforcement around the George Floyd and Rayshard Brooks cases.
    I would have focused like a laser on the Breonna Taylor case because it was so CLEAR CUT that this girl was innocent and was slaughtered while in her own home!

    That would have resonated much more with the rest of the planet than focusing on these 2 brothers who have questionable backgrounds.

    AfroAmericans need to learn to be more strategic in how they present their arguments so as not to be made fools out of.


     

  14.  Chev



    You are so right in that this has been happening on a routine basis, however, with the lynching!!!? Man! This is even hard for me to grasp! 
    I was born in the 60s and by the time I was old enough to understand, I was conditioned that the lynching and Jim Crow aspect was long ago. I am not kidding!  
    I was made to believe that it was a long time ago... and I was made to focus on a new Black wave. I was made to be captivated with Diana Ross and the Supremes,  
    Motown, Aretha Franklin, the Fifth Demension, the Jackson Five, hoola hoops, Black baby dolls, jump ropes, five and dime candy, the astronauts going to the moon, Black Power, etc. I was completely distracted

     

    Well, this is one of the main functions of Entertainment in Western society.....to distract people.
     

    One of the reasons that the protests have grown so much and are so huge right now is because there's not a lot of sports or music programs on television right now to further distract the people.

    Add that to the fact that nearly a third of the adult population ISN'T EVEN WORKING right now due to the virus and you have the perfect stew.
     

    Since there are no sports or talent shows for them to watch, or even jobs for them to go to, people have little choice BUT to focus on the injustices in society now.....lol.

     

     

     

     

     

    Well, yes but, this is only one aspect, and the other more pressing aspect are the AfroAmerican men who have NOT given up their BIRTHRIGHT to be males!!!  
    THANK GOD! I think that Black men are constantly being targeted because you guys are the beginning of God's strength--creation; that's why!--and the enemy does not like it. When mankind can accept that the first modern anatomically straight male originated from an African origin, then they are no different than even Black men, but the problem is that there is a strange presence on this earth and they do not want to accept this truth--White Supremacy!  


    To go along with what you said, one of the main reasons AfroAmericans in general are targeted by the White Supremacists is because we are the main people of color who actually criticize and challenge White Supremacy.

    Most other people of color both in and outside of the United States have capitulated and succumb to it and have become willing slaves.

    When you look at how Asians and Latinos are treated in society, although the White Supremacists in power seem to be giving them economic and political breaks....many of the average Caucasians on the street HATE them and commit BLATANT acts of racism against them.   But unlike most AfroAmericans, most of them don't fight back.  They just accept it, ignore it, and keep working to maintain the system.
    Many AfroAmericans REFUSE to do so, which is why so many are targeted.








     

    Troy



    Now that most reasonable people know he was a mistake, I'm confident to predict he will be booted out of office in 2020. Things will start to improve, for everyone, after 2020 for everyone barring a Russian invasion, another pandemic, or some other calamity.   
     

    I don't know about "everyone".
    I predict things will DEFINATELY start to improve for AfroAmericans not only after 2020 but before this Summer is out!

    There are a number of reasons why I believe this, but the Civil War that I say is already underway will be a major reason for this.


    Just like the first Civil War benefited AfroAmericans.
    I believe the second Civil War will benefit us also, but to a MUCH greater extent.

     


     

     

    As far as your example with police departments.  They have changed a great deal -- even in my life time.  It was not long ago when minorities and women were excluded from the ranks of police officers. Today is a completely different picture in places like NYC.  Improving is a work in progress. 
     

    Clearly things have changed on a SURFACE level, but have they changed for the BETTER?

    Since your childhood (and mind) we have seen the police become more militarized, more killing of civilians by law enforcement, the prison industrial complex grow.....all with more "minorities" and women added to the force to add to the confusion.
     

    In the case of New York.......
    It could be argued that the "powers that be" had decided to add more AfroAmerican and Puerto Rican officers to the NYPD so that THEY can do the dirty work and handle their own people so that the Caucasian officers don't have to get their hands dirty.

     

     


    Look at how some of the non-Caucasian and female NYPD officers you speak of GO AFTER the AfroAmerican kid even though it was the Caucasian boys who were the ones talking the most shit.
     

     



     

    Institution bend to the will of the people they are intended to serve. 
     

    I agree.
    The question is WHO were the various police departments around the nation intended to serve?

    If they were intended to serve the interests of wealth Caucasians, they have been and are doing JUST THAT.


  15. Troy

     

    Well they are our Brothers and Sisters.  Now they may not be out "Soul Brothers and Sistas" but we all belong to the same family man.  Failure to recognize this is why we are still running around killing each other. 
     

    Not sure what you mean by "we"....lol.

    It seems that Caucasians are doing a lot of the KILLING while people of color are doing a lot of crying, begging, weed smoking, and head scratching.

     



     

    ...and recognize America's blatant hypocrisy. 
     

    What we as AfroAmericans need to understand is that Western civilization was FOUNDED on lies and hypocrisy; so exposing them is no big deal.
     

    Too many of our people keep trying to appeal to some sort of "morality" they are assuming these racists have.  They don't care about lying and being hypocritical as long as it serves their purposes of oppression and domination.
     

    Yes, the average person around the planet may see the hypocrisy....but how much weight does THEIR opinion hold?
    What power do THEY have to do anything about it even if they recognize it?
    They know they better shut up and go back to that rice-paddy  or factory and get to sweating again before THEIR leader puts a foot in THEIR ass.

    Who cares what powerless people think.

    It's like those people standing on the sidewalk jumping up and down squealing and hollering while a race-soldier is beating and killing a brother.
    They feel holding up a cell phone camera and recording it while saying, "We got yall on tape.....better stop it!"  is real power.
    The race soldiers are steadily whopping the brother's ass and bouncing his head off the pavement while the crowd is pointing out how wrong and hypocritical it is.


    Why is THIS time different?

    ...…who said it was.
     

  16. Chev
     

     


     You are comparing a king to a man. Even a Black African king cannot be compared to a black man
     

    Isn't a king a man?
    He's a man in a powerful position.
     

    Just because he's in a powerful position doesn't mean he is NOT creepy.  Look at your President....lol. 

     




    That is SO not true based on Bible. 
     

    Exactly....the BIBLE says it.
    Which is one of the reasons I question it and go with other sources to make a correct determination.

     

     

     

     

     

    The Bible details a Black Hamitic founded civilization.  
     

    Are you sure?
    Because that same Bible details that Cain (son of Adam....whatever color you believe he was) went off into wandering and FOUNDED A CITY naming it after his son.

    So according to the Bible, clearly there was civilization before Noah and his sons.

     




    Akkad was completely developed by Black Negro males long before their CIVILIZATION was infiltrated by White Caucasians and other people from the east. 
     

    You may be correct to a certain extent.
    There is reason to believe that just like Caucasians had help from Africans (Musa and his crew) to be lifted up into civilization, they probably had some help from certain Africans to build thier first city Akkad.

     

     

     

     

     

    The Jews were not even born at the time Byblos was developed. 
     

    Ofcourse not.
    Byblos was THOUSANDS of years old at the time...probably millions, we don't know.
    I'm just saying that however old it is, that is one of the major places they were taken to get further training on how to go back and uplift the rest of their people.






    Abram was born in Ur of the CHALDEES, the ancestor of the Jews. 
     

    I'm not sure that Abram.....if he existed....was the ancestor of the Jews.
    As I said before, the Jews were a group of Caucasians (many of whom had a lot of African blood) smart enough and well trained enough to help uplift the rest of their race from savagery.  I'm not sure if Abram was even in the picture.







     I just can't tell you in one sentence so-to-speak of his contributions to humanity. 


    HIs contributions are largely that of conquering and pillaging the Black peoples of the Middle East.  
    He founded Akkad on the blood of those we now call Sumerians and Elamites.

    To show you how arrogant he was, he saw  ziggarauts in the area and decided to try and build HIS OWN ziggaraut (tower of Babel) as a launching pad for the aircraft he saw Black men flying around in.

    Some say it was also to challenge the Elohim.
     


  17. I will be the first person to my knowledge anywhere (television, online, ect….) to make the prediction that they will RE-OPEN the Jussie Smollett case sometime THIS YEAR and eventually declare him innocent and that he told the truth about his racial attack!

    So, not only did I make a prediction but I gave you a time frame.

    Now let's see what happens......

  18. Troy

     

    Institutions take time to create and by virtue of the fact that they are institutions they are necessarily slow moving. 
     

    Yes, but their effects are longer lasting.

    Look at the residual effects that the "institution" of monogamous marriage STILL has on society despite having decades of freedom from it.

     

     

    There is a lag but institutions ultimately reflect the people who run them.  Give me a counter example? 

     

    AfroAmerican police officers.

     

    Institutions usually reflect the people who FOUNDED them more so than the people who currently operate them or populate them.

    The police as an institution in the United States was set up to protect private property and also to prevent slaves from escaping.
    So the founders were racist Caucasian men who established a system that reflects their value of property over life.
    AfroAmericans may become officers and even Chiefs and commanders inside the institution, but they still have a hard time trying to change and reform that institution because of it's very FOUNDATION.
     

    Institutions have a way of changing the individuals who join them.

    Not only do institutions share the values of those who establish them, but my point is that even those who DON'T share those values end up abiding by them and even ADOPTING them at some point out of necessity and in the name of getting along with collegeaus.
     


  19. Troy
     


    "At some level we have to act as spirit for our brothers and sisters [white people] .... some are trying to make amends, but they just don;t know how..." 


    Well I don't know about the rest of your buddies but watch out for THAT buddy....lol.
    That's the type of brother who will get you in trouble!
     

    For one thing, he calls Caucasians his "brothers and sisters".
    Most Caucasians KNOW they aren't our brothers or sisters because we didn't come from the same origin.  But him calling them brother and sister is an example of him HOPING and WISHING for intimate acceptance by them.  
    Often times AfroAmerican men who think like that get caught up in some sexual legal problem from being to reckless with a Caucasian "sister" he thought was cool.
    Until she called "the man".


    Second, he sincerely believes that THEY are sincere about "making amends" but don't know how.  Which tells me he's easily deceived, by Caucasians atleast.

    Most people who have wronged you and SINCERELY want to make amends will first STOP doing you harm and THEN rectify the situation by repaing the damage.

    If he believes that someone who just called the police on him the other day while he was peacefully watching birds in the park and even told the police it was an "aggressive black guy" hoping for a violent response....is a "sister" who is remorseful and wants to make amends, he's a natural born sucker....lol.

    Like I said, watch out for them kind of buddies because they'll MESS YOU UP and won't even know he did it.

    He's the type of friend who will get chatty with one of his Caucasian "brothers" about you and unwittingly pass on some important personal information about you that may be potentially damaging and he wouldn't even know what he did wrong.


    You'll be laying on a cot somewhere looking up at the ceiling wondering what happened, and he'll STILL be chatting away to his Caucasian "brothers and sisters" giving them more information.

     


    There is also the realization that what we want is all over the map, so the inability to understand what will make Black folks happy is understandable confusing. 
     

    Well, I know what MOST AfroAmerians want.

    When a Caucasian ever wanted to REALLY know what most AfroAmericans wanted they asked ME....lol.
     

    Most AfroAmericans want to be loved and accepted by Caucasians.  
    They don't just want justice and respect, they want MORE than that....they want ACCEPTANCE by Caucasians because many of our people see Caucasians as the epitome of humanity and being on an intimate and accepted basis with them is one of the main goals of many.


    Having a nice big house isn't good enough for them.
    They have to have a nice big house in a Caucasian neighborhood!
    Infact, a small cramped apartment will do....as long as it's OUT of the hood and in a Caucasian neighborhood.


    The global reaction to what is happening here is America is also so telling isn't it? 
     

    Yes.
    Because they know what happens in America is simply a prelude to what will happen over the rest of the globe.

     


  20. Troy

     

    Yes.
    I'm quite creative when I want to be....lol.

     

    One of the things I neglected to say at the beginning of this thread when you were asking me about the various characteristics of Caucasians that should be emulated  was their remarkable ability to talk in "code" with eachother.

     

    A Caucasian in an executive position can say something to ALL of the members of a corporation and while all of the fellow Caucasians will understand EXACTLY what he means the other non-Caucasians will be totally clueless and take his words on face value.  They will carry out his orders EXACTLY the way he meant them to be carried out while many of the non-Caucasians will do what they THOUGHT he wanted done.....but much of it will turn out to be wrong.

     

    When Agent Orange said he wanted to "Make America Great Again" other Caucasians knew EXACTLY what he meant by that but only a few people of color did and had to de-code it into "Make America White Again".

     

    This is why most of the police reform efforts they are talking about won't work UNTIL you remove the racists from the various departments.
    Because as long as you have race-soldiers occupying the positions of police officers and officials they will continue to speak to eachother in code to continue their brutal objectives.
    All you need is a racist chief to tell ALL of the officers they need to be more aggressive on motorists speeding in the streets, and the racists will immediately hear "Ok guys.....I need you to start stopping more Blacks and getting some ticket money up for revenue".

     

  21. 3 hours ago, Troy said:

    Could this simply be the collective reaction to the senseless murder of George Floyd by a sociopathic cop, in the context of a Trump presidency? 


    Uh...yeaaah.


    What else could it have been, given the timing?

    At any rate, congratulations on your success.
    I think we should enjoy it and take advantage of the times Caucasians are being nice, supportive, and generous REGARDLESS as to why they're doing it.

     

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  22. Troy

     

    A MAGA hat is not a symbol of racism to many of the white who wear them. That is you projecting your sterotype. 
     

    Lol...???

    And neither is burning a cross a symbol of racism to most KKK members, if you ask them!

    Should we start believing what racist hypocrites SAY out of their mouths instead of judging them by their actions?
     

     


      
    Had you even consudered that the old guy might have simply been trying to help you? Or is white skin and a red hat enough to set you off? 

      
    Yes, I briefly considered it as a possiblity.
    But logic forced me to side with COMMON SENSE.

     

     

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    Man you act like it is still the 19th century. Things are nit oerfect but they are FAR better than what they used to be. Indications are, given recent events, white people want to improve things for us too. 
     

    Perhaps.
    But I wasn't around to witness the 19th century to draw a comparison.
     

    Injustice and racial oppression is injustice and racial oppression regardless as to the degree one is suffering from it.


    If a person goes to see a doctor with stage 4 cancer and they manage to get it under control and down to stage 2.....should the doctor tell their patient to leave well enough alone?

    Should that doctor assure the patient that they may not be perfectly healthy, but atleast they are far less likely to die from stage 2 than stage 4?

    A good doctor would try their best to get rid of ALL cancer in their patient and impliment a routine that prevents it from ever re-occuring again!
     

  23.  


    No, I don't see the difference. Institutions are not autonomous or sentient entities. They reflect the will of the people who run them
     

    But not necessarily the will of those SUBORDINATE to them, and that's the difference.

    The consequences of personal prejudices and discriminatory behavior is ideally limited ONLY to the person holding those views and those they personally choose to interact with.

    When discrimination and prejudice is INSTITUTIONALIZED then even those who don't share those views are forced to behave as if they do.


    Clearly the two aren't the same.

     

     

     

    Racist people run institutions that write antimesigenation laws. 
     

    But again, NON-racists have to live under and by them.  And there again is the difference.

    So you can't compare the severity of individual prejudice with institutonalized prejudice and discrimination.
     


  24. Troy

     

    Of course personal experiences are important in making decisions. If you live in come urban ghetto, it might make sense to assume a young Black man may rob you. However it was be illogical to assume all young Black men will rob you. Do you see the difference? 


    Yes.
    However the examples you offered for a comparison were lopsided.
     

    You gave the Caucasian man a characteristic (wearing a Trump supporter's hat) that is well known to be a symbol of bigotry.
    But you gave the AfroAmerican man a charactristic of simply being young.  
    You didn't say he had a rag around his face, a gun in his waist, ect....no outward sign of aggression.


    So in the two examples you offered, distrusting the Caucasian man is MORE JUSTIFIED because of his open display of symbolic racism.
     




     

    You choose to distrust all white people based upon all the bad shit some of them have done over the centuries. That is fine. I don't have the emotional and mental capacity to distrust the majority of the people who live in this country. Besides I'm don't think it is necessary. 
     

    1. It's not simply based on the bad shit some of them HAVE DONE....but what they are STILL DOING!

    You act as if the war that racists have been waging against people of color on this planet is somehow over.
    -Look at the behavior of some Caucasian so-called "police".
    -Look at the strikingly high cases of Covid 19 among people of color.
    -Look at the disproportionate amount of AfroAmericans in jails and prisons.
    -The AfroAmerican men still being hung in trees

     

    We're not just talking about the crimes of the past but the crimes STILL being committed by racist Caucasians.

    To blanketly trust all Caucasians UNTIL they give you a reason not to is akin to suicide.

     

     

    2. From what you're saying, it appears that you see dis-trusting someone alone in and of itself as a HOSTILE act.
    Do you believe that human beings are OBLIGAGED to trust eachother?
     

     

     

     

     

    The only penis i'm interested is in my own. You obviously have a lot of interest and knowledge about other penises. Can you be more specific on how you've come to be so knowledgeable on the subject of penises? 

     

    Why?

    Lol.....are you interested in becoming a Peniologist  during your spare time?

     

     

     

     


    Does do you believe thst people with big feet have big ones too? 

     

    Ofcourse not.....lol.....not the women atleast.
     

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