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  1. Troy
     

    While your personal experience important to you it still can't not be used to judge broad swaths of people.
     

    Why can't it?
    Isn't that how human beings learn and socialize with eachother?

    Isn't that how babies and children learn, by using their personal experiences and observations to LEARN how to navigate their way through the world?

    A baby learns to expect that sucking on a titty will get them milk based on numerous personal experiences of sucking on them before....lol.

    A child learns to love candy IN GENERAL because of their numerous personal experiences from eating candy.

    People enroll in schools and IN GENERAL expect to be educated based on numerous personal experiences in other such institutions.


    Can you not understand how sound judgements and other decisions can be based on personal experiences?

     



    Knowing that a moving vehicle may kill you, if you step in front of it, is entirely different than knowing if the white Guy with the MAGA hat will.  We have 100% knowledge of the car even before we see it.  You can never truly know how the white guy will behave -- even if you know him. 
     

    It's not about KNOWING....it's about ESTIMATING to make the best decision for your safety and well being.

    You know the car has the POTENTIAL to kill you but you don't know for sure if it would even hit you.  And if it does hit you it may not kill you or even seriously injury you.  But you GENERALIZE based on SAFETY.....because you don't want to find out the hard way you estimate that it could and that it's best to avoid taking any of the chances.

    And it's the same with the Caucasian with the MAGA hat.  
    He may not necessarily be racist or harmful but he may be and it would be unwise for you to take unnecessary chances by ASSUMING that he isn't and giving him an opportunity to harm you FIRST before not-trusting him.


    I have a good example for you.......
    A couple months ago I was standing in line in a grocery store and some old Caucasian man in a red MAGA hat TRIED to walk up to me without a mask on asking me did I need help finding something on the shelf.  

    I ran his ass away!


    He stood back constantly asking what was wrong and babbling about how he was only trying to help me find what I was looking for.
    He looked sickly and his eyes were rimmed in red like a zombie.  The more I looked at the devil the angrier I got.  If he hadn't left, there's no telling if a can of something would have gotten thrown at him.....lol.


    Did I over-react?

    Perhaps.

    Now this was before it came out that White Supremacists were intentionally trying to spread coronavirus among AfroAmerican populations.


    So why did I behave the way I did toward this old man?

    Becaues I  I DID NOT TRUST HIM base on generalizations!


    1. He wasn't an employee at the store, so why was he interested in helping me out?

    2. He was a Caucasian...member of a race with a long documented history of doing more harm to AfroAmericans than good but that harm is often DISGUISED as good.

    3. His hat told me he was a proud and open supporter of "Agent Orange", a man of whom most of his followers are racist.


    My antennae was raised and I acted on my instincts and because of that it probably prevented me from being harmed.
     

    A lot of AfroAmericans....perhaps even yourself....seem to see virtue in blanketly trusting Caucasians UNTIL they do something malicious to you to erode that trust.  I don't. Because if you let them get too close and do the wrong thing you may not LIVE to learn better next time.




     

    You can't possible know this.  Again just because you believe it based upon your limited experience does not make it true for the whole. 


    Lol...
    Well if I can't possibly know this is NOT the case, how can you possibly know that it IS the case?

    I'm using my limited experience to argue against a position that you've taken based YOUR LIMITED EXPERIENCE.

    Who among us has had enough expriences with all or the majority of humanity to prove or disprove our positions?





    Being based in truth and actually being true are too different things.  
     

    I know this.
    However they don't necessarily contradict eachother either.



     

    As far as penis sizes, I actually have not seen too many, and I've never seen a Chinese penis.

     

    Friday (1995)

    " Come on man, stop playing...you KNOW you done seen some Chinese penisez befoe' ! "





    How did you come to see so many penises that you can, so confidently, draw conclusions about their relative lengths? 😲  ...that is unless you can show me the data. 


    Gyms, internet, women who've seen them, ect......
    There is plenty of data out there about the length of men's penises based on their race.
    Much of it is clouded and obscure and presented as "inconclusive" but it's out there.

     

  2. Troy

     

    you've made very broad generalizations about people based only on their skin color.  This is sterotyping people and prejudicial. This is the exact same reasoning the white supremacist uses. 
     

    Yes, it is true that I have made very broad generalizations about people....but those generalizations are based on YEARS of observation and personal experience dealing with different races of people.  NOT based "only" on their skin color.
     

    Unlike conventional ethics, I DO NOT necessarily condemn or decry broad generalizations.
    I believe they are appropriate and logical sometimes, and not at other times.  But it's a matter of discretion.

    You don't walk out infront of on-coming traffic because of the BROAD GENERALIZATION that a car will hit you and kill you.....although that may not necessarily be the case.




    All of the characteristics you've ascribed to white people are characteristics Black people have and vice versa.
     

    Not generally.
    Perhaps in a few individual cases, but certainly not collectively.




     

    Again, you believe this because people perpetuate and internalize that stereotype. Because people hold on to stereotypes does not make them true, but i guess it does form their reality


    Although a stereotype isn't NECESSARILY true, I'd offer the stronger argument that to the contrary....most stereotypes are actually BASED ON a certain amount of truth!


    For example.....
    There is a PERSISTENT stereotype that African men have larger penises than other races of men.

    This stereotype didn't come out of the blue.
    I don't hear it being said about Asian men.
    If it was completely made up and untrue then they could just as easily attach the myth to Asian men.....but they didn't and haven't.

    Just because something is a stereotype, doesn't necessarily mean that it IS true or that it is NOT true.


    BTW....
    I believe the larger penis size of the average African man is MORE than just some "stereotype" but a scientific FACT.
    The only reason it's argued and called as stereotype is because the SCIENCE that has confirmed this FACT has been intentionally clouded.

    This scientific fact CAN BE and HAS BEEN  easily confirmed not only by direct observation but with measurements by medical professionals....no need for the doubt and confusion.
    But because having a larger penis suggests that African men are more masculine...which contradicts White Supremacy....again, this well established fact is intentionally clouded and wrapped up in irrelevant discussions in order to cause confusion and stir up doubt.

    Notice when it comes to things like RACE AND CRIME STATISTICS.....which is much harder to measure than simply measuring a penis.....Caucasians have no problems offering endless documents of hard clear statistics.
     

  3. OK
     

    I couldn't wait on your response so I decided to look it up and it appears that I was wrong.

    I guess all of these Black-Drag Queen shows that Caucasians have been promoting all over television lately has got me on high alert for ANYTHING that even smells like another  racist attempt to put a brother in a wig and dress and humiliate him before the entire world.....lol.



    BIPOC
     

    Black Indigenous People Of Color
     

    Interesting term....

     

    Although I understand what it MEANT by the term, it still is liable to generate and maintain the racial and ethnic confusion that already exists because it uses terms like "Black" and "Indigenous" which are confusing terms.


    That's why I'm not crazy about it.....


    You seem to be pretty adamant against it also Troy,  I'm interested in hearing YOUR reasons.
     why?
     


  4. Troy

     

    I'll ask you one. Fuller says there is nothing about Black culture today that anyone would want to adopt. Do you agree with that  
     

    No.
    It should be understood that as much as I quote and reference Neely Fuller Jr. and respect his work, I don't honor him as some sort of religious figure or epitome of what it means to be a freedom fighter.  I think that he....like Elijah Muhammad....Marcus Garvey....Booker T. Washington.....ect….has excellent points that can be used to benefit AfroAmericans.

    But in disagreement with that statement, I'd say there is plenty in AfroAmerican culture  (sub-culture rather)  that many people around the planet not only want to but are TRYING to adopt....rap music is one of them.




    Conversely, the presumption based upon Fuller's observations above is that everything about white culture is worth emulating. Do you agree with that?  If so, what those characteristics be? 


    I think you're mischaracterizing his position on Caucasian culture and White Supremacy.
    He has repeatedly said for decades that we must REPLACE the system of White Supremacy with the system of JUSTICE.  Not emulate it.

    However he, like myself, believe there are indeed ASPECTS of Caucasian culture that we could learn from and adopt to better our situation as AfroAmericans.

    Among them are:

    -thinking less emotionally and more logically.
    -generally having a healthy DIS-TRUST for people outside of our race
    -focus on achieving and maintaing independence and self-reliance.
     

    These are things that Caucasians are known for around the world, but are NOT things that African peoples are known for which is one of the reasons so many of our people find themselves in the position they are in.
     


  5. Why is it that the charge for George Floyd's killer can't  be raised 
    up to 1st Degree. 

     

    Especially since it's coming out now that Chauvin most likely KNEW who George was and that he had beef with him from their nights of working security together in the club.

    The way he kept his hand in his pocket and looked him in the eyes while killing him is obvious that the killing was personal and probably pre-meditated.

     

     

     

     


    Chev


    That's scary. I've heard about the Mormon culture and have seen some talk shows about the multiple marriage system, but never heard of them having issues of incest. 

     

    Well, incest isn't necessarily part of Mormon culture specifically.....but it IS a part of Caucasian culture.

    It started as a way to maintain so-called "white purity" early in the formations of the Caucasian race when they were journeying and dwelling in lands dominated by people of color.
     

  6. Troy

    You just posted this and I haven't heard of that term before and haven't even googled it yet but I'm willing to wager it's some SEXUAL term that was designed to further confuse our young people.

    Neely Fuller Jr. said the White Supremacists are working OVER TIME and burning a lot of MIDNIGHT OIL figuring out ways to confuse our people....especially in the sexual arena.

    Again, I may be wrong and you can correct me since you researched the term "bipoc" but I'm almost CERTAIN it has something to do with sex, sexuality, or sexual/gender identity.

    Am I right or wrong?

  7.  

    Troy

     

    Pioneer there is nothing that science that will change the "natural" role of men and women when it comes to procreation. 

    That's why I say it's "hard wired".


    This is my point....some things ARE set.

     

     

     

     

     

    As far as defenders you and I both know there are some women who would be much better defenders than some men. Natural defenders has as much to do with characteristics that go beyond one's gender. 

     

    While you're correct that SOME women would make bettter defenders, these are EXCEPTIONS...not the rule.
    It's like saying some men like other men; while we know that SOME men are gay....most are not as a rule.
     

    While human beings were created to be very versatile and be able to take on non-traditional roles if they have to.....males in general are clearly designed to be more suited for aggression, defense, physical combat, ect...

     

     

     


    Maybe you are right about a 2nd civil war, but the 2nd war will be fought with technology manipulating minds and behavior not with guns. 
     

    It's not a case of the 2nd Civil War "will" be fought, I believe it's already started.  
    Many of these Caucasian militia groups are just waiting to be officially deputized (sanctioned by the government to do what they want).  They are going to turn on eachother and do FAR more harm to eachother than to AfroAmericans….however that doesn't necessarily solve the problem of GROSS STUPIDITY that so many of our people suffer from.  
    Many AfroAmericans are in denial because they are confused and don't know what to do and this confusion as well as the love and desire for their open enemies will stall some of the progress that we will make in the coming weeks, months, and years.

     

  8. Lol......slavery ended?


    Slavery didn't end, it just TRANSFORMED.

     

    Instead of buying and selling Africans on the auction block and breeding them for cheap labor-

    Now they've decided to arrest and imprison as many AfroAmericans as they can for cheap labor  AND import as many Mesos and Meztizos from Central America as they can for even more cheap labor.
     

    So rather than ending, it not only transformed but even EXPANDED.
     

  9. Quote

     

    J. Alexander Kueng, Officer Involved In George Floyd’s Death, Released From Jail

     

     

    MINNEAPOLIS (WCCO) — J. Alexander Kueng, one of the four former Minneapolis police officers involved in the death of George Floyd, has been released from Hennepin County Jail Friday night after posting bond, according to jail records.

     

     

    J. Alexander Kueng: Here's What You Need To Know | Heavy.com

     

     

    Two of the four officers have now posted bail. As Thomas Lane, 37, was released on June 10. 

     

     

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/j-alexander-kueng-officer-involved-in-george-floyds-death-released-from-jail/ar-BB15JJxS?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=wispr

     



     

    I wouldn't be surprised if all four of those race-soldiers were set free to have beer and pizza with their friends and family by mid-July.

    The ONLY thing that kept them locked up was "Black Anger"......and when it simmered, and the coast was clear.....Satan began making his moves.

     

     

     

     

  10. Troy


    By the way what are the "NATURAL" roles that you speak of for men and women. Are my roles as educatore, webmaster, bookseller, and nice guy natural for a man? 


    Those professions that you listed are SOCIALLY CONSTRUCTED occupations that can be practiced by EITHER men or women.  Them, as well as the ability to perform them has less to do with biological  chemistry and more to do with what occupation you choose and your level of intelligence.

    The roles I speak of are more based in bio-chemistry that is hard-wired in the individual and isn't so much a matter of choice.
    For example.......
     

    Natural Roles of Man
    Fighter/Defender -requiring an abundance of testosterone for muscular strength and aggression.

    Father -requiring a penis, testicles, and sperm to deliver and fertilize an egg.
     

    Natural Roles of Woman
    Child bearer -requiring a womb and an abundance of estrogen and egg to be fertilized.

     

     

     

     


    Prophecized by whom, Nostradamus? What will be the factions of white people who will fight each other? It is not like the slave states taking up arms against the federal government. Will it be the Alt-right against the LGBTQIA+, the Republicans against the Democrats, or some other groups? 


    Those in power have known for over 100 years that the United States would have a 2nd Civl War because much of it is being orchestrated by them.   

    I don't know the complete details of it but I believe these alt-right milita groups will be deputized by the various state governments and possibly even the Federal government....but their main targets will actually be other Caucasians.

    Actually the powers-that-be in this nation will HELP AfroAmericans to get power but the average Caucasian citizens will not like that and will want to fight them over it.
    The reasons why is because the powers-that-be ( also known as the elite, 1%, ect…..) KNOW that we as AfroAmericans are destined to be on top and rule because this is what has been predicted in most of their Secret Societies, but the average Caucasian DOESN'T know this and will become angry and confused about what is happening.

    Although most of the fighting will be Caucasians fighting eachother, and some fighting among the races, there will be quite a bit of fighting among AfroAmericans as we take charge of our communities and a lot of good brothers will end up having to deal with the thugs, gangsters, and savages that have gained a foothold in our community and will have to be up-rooted.
     

  11. Talking direct violence on-line ???????
     

    Perhaps you have me confused with brother Kareem.....lol.

    I will say that the biggest problems Caucasians in the United States will face will come from THEMSELVES as they  destroy most of their own people in a prophecized and predicted 2nd Civil War they will have among themselves that they will not be able to prevent no matter how hard they try. 
     

  12. There are some who accuse me of giving the White Supremacists too much credit for their power and authority on this planet.
    Many AfroAmericans  claim that Caucasians aren't NEARLY as powerful, smart, and organized as I claim they are and some even get a little upset and want to jump up and proclaim with strong emotion that NO ONE has any power or authority over them!

    Let us hear what Mr. Fuller has to say about this:

     


     

  13.  

    Troy

     

    Wait, what?  Are you talking about removing white people from America, Earth?  What are you talking about?   Whatever it is lets try to keep it within the universe of possibilities. 

     


    I'm talking about Caucasians being removed from their positions of power and authority as is happening right now.

     

    Caucasians will still have a presence on this planet for another thousands years or so, but they will not hold any power over people of color.
     

  14. Troy

    Pioneer the America you seek does not exist.
     

    Not yet.
    However I think it's in formation as we speak.


    Like I told Chevdove
    We are living in an ARTIFICIAL society where Caucasians continue to manipulate people and events that prevents things from taking it's natural course.

     

    When Caucasians are no longer in power (whenever that happens) you will see both the males and females in our community settle into their NATURAL roles.
    As long as Caucasians are manipulating society by locking up many AfroAmerican men, denying them good paying jobs, and getting many hooked on substances so that most are obsolete and unable to provide for themselves let alone anyone else - forcing the women to be not only the mother and father in the family but also the woman and the man in the community in general....you will continue to see dysfunction and confusion.
     

    Take them OUT of the picture and the that distortion will correct itself almost immediately.

     

     

     

     

     

    Harry B.
     

    There. Are. Tears For. Black. People. Murdered. By. Black. Street. Gangs   Not. Seen.  On The News.  Black. Politicians ,NAACP-Black-Church.  People.  Are. Not. Angry.   For.   Street.   Gangs ,Murdering -Black.  People...It's.  Okay.  For.   Black.  Gangs. To. Genocide ,Black-People .

     

     

    Minister Farrakhan said we are fighting a battle on TWO fronts.

    An external enemy (White Supremacy) AND an internal enemy (Black thuggery).
    Both enemies tend to feed off of eachother.

    AfroAmericans slaughtering eachother takes away the moral power that is needed to properly and effectively defeat Caucasian racism.

     

  15. Chev

     

    BUT, you know, I think this may be a form of depression. Many Black people of this generation, are feeling helpless. They may be in shock and disbelief 
    as to what seems to be 'a repeat of history', a throwback from the Jim Crow days, and they never thought this would happen now, so therefore, they  
    are reacting this way, showing that they are unprepared; caught off guard.  

     

    We've been conditioned to believe that those days were long gone, a false conditioning, and now all of a sudden, we are witnessing this kind of  
    race hatred and was not prepared.  


    AfroAmericans (especially the men) have been targeted by the police for decades, this is nothing new.  

    Infact, on television now there is a lot of talk about "the talk" (as Caucasians have named it) that many AfroAmerican parents have with their sons about how to behave when they come into contact with law enforcement officers.   So our people have BEEN known that they were subjected to police brutality.
     

    Why would they be caught off guard by something that happens on a routine basis?

     

     

     

     

     

    Black men in chattel slavery times had to cope with so much, when it came to their manhood being taken from them, and now this! 

     

    Sometimes, I wonder if the MANHOOD being taken away from some AfroAmerican men is the VERY REASON this is happening in the first place.

    I don't see this happening to Arab men on a routine basis.

     

     

     

     


    Well, here's the point though, to this thought;  
    we've been attacked for so long, that even if there were no White Caucasian men around, there would still be a problem for a long time.  

     

    I think you have a point to a certain extent!
    However, I believe that most of the problems AfroAmericans have comes from CONFUSION.

    Not just confusion from not being able to figure things out, but more importantly the confusion that comes DIRECTLY from Caucasians who insert it into our community to keep shit going.   If there were no more Caucasians constantly tossing rocks into our community and hiding their hands.....I gurantee you that within a generation or two ALL of the confusion will get sorted out and our community would be on the straight and progressive path.


    We, as a race are IN TUNE with nature.
    Like I said, we don't need "books" to civilize us or learn how to behave.  All Caucasians have to do is LEAVE US ALONE to our own devices and we would automatically gravitate towards our righteous and harmonious nature.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Troy
     


    Here is the south, I'm pretty confident most Black men own a gun and would have no problem hunting down a pack of wild dogs terrorizing local children. 


    Lol, well......I've lived in several southern states and didn't see AfroAmerican men come together to do anything like that.

    I saw a lot of joking around and clowing by grown men.   

    Infact, I saw a lot of AfroAmerican men down there calling Caucasian women "miss so-n-so" like slaves.




    Some men are raised by single women, but most go on a do fine
     

    It depends on what you regard as "fine".
    If you mean they grow up and avoid getting killed or going to jail and manage to get good jobs and raise a family.....yes most can achieve that.

    However WOMEN can do that.
     

    Grow up?
    Stay alive?
    Avoid jail?
    Have and raise children?

    Yes, these are noteworthy achievements that should be honored, but the fact is BOTH men AND women can do this!
     

    So what separates the men from the women?

    What can you point to as a barometer that says ONLY a real man can get this done?

    I'm not picking on men who were raised by only their mothers by the way, what I'm saying goes for AfroAmerican men in general even IF they had fathers in their lives because many times their own fathers don't know how to be REAL men who protect and secure their communities.
     

  16.  

    Chev

     

     

     

    I can barely refrain my anger when I see White men like the one you believe in!!! They are so creepy to me. You have no idea how many of them, I've countered due to these evil lies they try to supplant in the minds of Black people about ancient script

     

    1611 First Edition KING JAMES BIBLE Pulpit Folio NEW TESTAMENT ...

     

    Lol....well what about THIS White man and HIS book that you believe in?
    Isn't HE a creepy-creep?

     

     

     

     

     

    They came to Black lands and went to ACCAD and had to learn 
    this script language in order to trade. 

     

    Yes the Caucasians went ot the Black lands to be taught certain principles of civilization and to learn to trade among us,  but not to the city of Accad.  Accad or Akkad didn't exist until Caucasians camed down into Mesopotamia to build it. 

    Babel was the major city in Sumer before the Caucasians arrived.
     
    Most Caucasians were taken to Kemet to learn but others were taken to the Kenaani city of Sefer or today known as Byblos.
    Those who were brought to these ancient Black cities to learn and take knowledge back to their people were known as Jews.

     

     

     

     

     

     


    Get outta hear! No way. SArgon was a creep. Nimrod was mighty because he was CUSH HAM. Black Power! 
    Stop giving credit to creeps! 

     

    Lol.
    No sis, Nimrod wasn't a very good man.

    Infact, he was the man the rituals of Christmas are REALLY based on.



     

     

     


     

    No, I did not say that!!!  
    I said that they had to separate from the BIBLE because they did NOT 'found America' on the Bible. That is why they had to separate from it,  
    because the Bible does NOT support enslavement of Black AFrican children. They use the Bible as a demise, but after the world began to 
    broadcast this in India, Japan, etc. England decided to 'look like the good guys' and these Americans decided to keep their slave trade power.... hence 
    Separation of Church and State to maintain CHATTEL SLAVERY. JULY 4TH--THEY BROKE OFF FROM THE CROWN 

     

    OK, I misunderstood you.
    I apologize.
    That makes sense, actually.


    I like how you broke down the origin of ACADEMY.....I hadn't made the connection before hand.
     


  17. Nathanial


    Welcome to the site.
    I have MAJOR respect for the Africans in the United Kingdom!

     

    Having dealt with British Africans on various occasions I see them collectively as very smart, sophisticated, and even militant in defending themselves against the racism they encounter over there on a routine basis.
     

    I was  VERY impressed at how some of the African men handled business over the weekend in London with those racists who attempted to harass African protesters and ended up getting their asses (arses...lol.... ?) beaten.

     

    The African men in the United States could learn some lessons from Africans in the UK on how to behave and handle racist Caucasians.
     

    As far as the subject of your thread.....

    I personally believe we should focus much more on attaining OUR OWN media outlets so that we can portray ourselves how WE want to, instead of focusing so much on Caucasian owned outlets and trying to force them to do the right thing.
     

  18. Queen X
     

    Well.......

    Would you feel protected and secure if you had a husband who cried more than you?
     

    I'm not talking about crying WHILE fighting or crying WHILE  making plans to take action and secure you.

    I mean him laid back on the couch with streams of water running down his beard-stubbled brown face blinking and staring at the ceiling;  or him sitting at the dining room table with his arms folded and his head buried down in his arms bawling his eyes out not knowing WHAT to do.


    Too often AfroAmericans (both men and women)  have to rely on CAUCASIAN MEN  (police officers, military men, and even "good" white neighbors) to come to their rescue and help them out because they don't have the motivation, confidence, training to get up and TAKE CHARGE of their own communities like Malik Shabazz used to teach.
     

    You have a mixed race neighborhood and there are a pack of wild dogs on the loose attacking children...…

     

    If they don't call animal services, chances are Caucasian men will get together with their guns and hunt down those dogs and try to either capture or kill them.

    But what do you think most AfroAmerican men would do?
     

    ….. besides standing on the porch in some shorts and flip-flops with a cell phone stuck to their head running their mouth and looking crazy?


    Listen to him:


     

     

    People, technology and communication. Charismatic young black ...

     


    "What?

     

    Huh?

     

    Say what?

     

    Nigga I don't know!

     

    Dey talkin' bout some DAAAWGS  runnin'  round the 'hood or some shit.

    You seen any?

     

    Huh?

     

    Naw

     

    Huh?

     

    Naw man.

    Naw nigga.... I don't see shit

    I saaaiiid naw!


     

    Huh?

    ((grrrowwllll))

    Oh shit!.....hold own!

    ((RUFFF  RUFFF GRRRRRR ROOOOOAR))

    ((tumbling and noise in the background))

    Ahhh shit.....aaawwwwwwooooooaaaawww"



    *You MIGHT hear a "bang-bang" if some Caucasian men happen to be in the area, see him being attacked, and save his ass in time.

     

     

    Too many of us haven't learned to GROW UP and be men and TAKE CHARGE of what's happening in our community.

    Too many of our people wait on Caucasians to do EVERYTHING for them and have gotten used to doing so to the point they don't know how to do anything for themselves and feel helpless when confronted with a challenge.
     

    Too many AfroAmerican men were raised by single women without RESPONSIBLE adult males in thier life to SHOW THEM how a responsible mature man is supposed to act and protect his family and community.  Because they didn't have a good MODEL many (not all....some just naturally know how to ACT like a man without having to see one)  of them act like they saw the women of their family acting when they were growing up thinking THAT'S how a man is supposed to react.

    And how is that?
    They start crying, calling on Jesus, and calling on as many Caucasian men as they can think of to come help them.

    I wonder what would happen if there were no Caucasian men in the area to call on and we HAD to take care of all of our problems OURSELVES.
     


  19. Chev 

     

    Sargon is dated in so many other script, secular and his dated time is much farther ahead of Nimrod. 
     

    Yes, I know he's dated.
    This is because there is more extra-biblical information on him than on Nimrud.....so his character is more trusted.   Nimrud doesn't really HAVE date outside of the biblical order, so you can't really SAY when he came along.  But both of them are still based on the same individual.

     

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    Identifying Nimrod Of Genesis 10 With Sargon Of Akkad By Exegetical And Archaeological Means 
     

    https://www.galaxie.com/article/jets56-2-03 

     



     

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    Still others have sought to identify Nimrod with one of the early rulers of Mesopotamia, such as the great Sargon of Akkad. Indeed, Akkad (Agade, the Accad of KJV) is one of the cities whose building is credited to Nimrod (Gen. 10:10). Sargon is known from later Mesopotamian history as the monarch who unified all of Mesopotamia and sedentarized the region of Subartu. 12 For his actions in settling the Domads, he suffered famine at the hands of the god Mardiuk.
     
    That the purpose of the tower and city of Babel was to centralize power and to do away with noinadism is hinted at in the Bible (Gen. 11:4). The punishment inflicted upon the builders by God is also mentioned. Thus, there are superficial reasons to accept the identification of Nimrod with Sargon. This is reinforced by the fact that Sargon's name (Akkadian Shamikin) is a mere title, meaning "legitimate king." His real name is unknown to us.


    http://ancientamerica.org/library/media/HTML/r1vg0nqa/03 In search of the historicc Nimrod.htm?n=0 

     



    When you read about the "sons of the gods" mixing with the "daughters of men" that is talking about the African men who mixed with the Caucasian women and produced mixed-race children who were considered highly esteemed to the more savage and cave dwelling people of that region.

    Nimrod/Sargon is one of those mixed offspring and this is one of the reasons he was considered a mighty leader.


     

    The SEparation of Church and State--July 4th, 1776 is based on a complete separation from what they founded their 13 colonies by, the KJV Bible. 
    This is what sparked the American REvolution, it was all about Chattel Slavery.  

     

    Oh.
    I thought it was England they allegedly separated from.
    And I said allegedly because there are some who believe that England STILL rules the United States.
     

    You say that America was founded on and based upon the Bible.  To a certain extent you are correct;  because as I said the Bible or more specifically the Torah were the laws given to the Caucasians by Musa to keep them "uplifted" or civilized.   As long as they hold to those laws/principles that he taught them they would make progress; but when they start deviating they will decline....as you see happening now.

    They need BOOKS to keep then civilized and on the right path, we don't.
    This is why when you look at most African and Native American religions....they don't involved so-called "holy" scripture.

    They eat fruit, have sex, and lay around the village all day enjoying life....lol.


  20. Troy
     

    You ask a good question because there is really not a lot of options for older AfroAmerican men.

    Old Caucasian men have "clubs" and "lodges" they can join where they sit around and talk about how much they hate n**gers and how great the "good ole days" were....lol.

    Besides the church, what do WE have?


    As far as the elders getting respect, I have mixed feelings about that...…

    Part of me says you SHOULD respect those who are older and more experienced than you, and the older I get the more I understand WHY and the importance of LIFE EXPERIENCE verse book-knowledge.

    However, another part of me says the Elders must act WORTHY of respect in order to gain respect of the youth.

    Back in the day, the older generations would TEACH and PROTECT the younger generation!
    They would teach them how to hunt, how to fight, how to cook, how to build a hut or house......so there was a sense of honor and appreciation that the elders of a community would get from the younger generation.  Today, when you see an old man/woman walking down the street you don't now WHAT their value is or what they've done in the community.........most likely nothing, of any worth.    Picture that old grey-bearded brother sitting infront of the liquor store eating Cheetos and flapping his red tongue as he begs children for money and acts a fool....lol.

    So the younger generation has no real REASON to show them any extra reverence as they did in the past.

    Perhaps we need to go back to rites of passage and giving the youth a REAL reason to respect us.
     

  21. 3 hours ago, Chevdove said:

     

    ALSO, i've been trying to post a thread about this very subject, prophecy, and I'm constantly blocked by the hard wall Daddy or something!

    This has never happened to me before. 



    If you're like most Christians  you'll start blaming it on evil spirits or "the devil" trying to block you from putting out the truth....lol.

    I knew a woman, everytime she lost her keys or phone she claimed it was "the devil" playing games with her.

  22. Chev


    America did NOT separate from the Bible on July 4th because it was a bunch of fables and myths! LOL
     

    What do you mean America separated from the Bible on July 4th?




     

    Egypt was judged for human sacrifice, for putting people in hard bondage. free labor. 
     

    Did you know that ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE (a source you trust....lol) the Israelites also practiced human sacrifice as well as hard bondage and slavery?





    America is cursed for their enslavement of little African children-
     

    You say America is "cursed" but what is your evidence or proof of that?

    America is one of the strongest and one of the most properous nations in modern history DESPITE what she did to Africans and Meso Americans.

    North Korea and Tasmania didn't commit the sins America committed and they aren't nearly as prosperous.

    Do you KNOW America is cursed, or do you just FEEL that America SHOULD be cursed because of the terrible things she's done?
    See, this goes back to what I was saying in the other thread about our people hoping and wishing something is true whether it's actually true or not.

     


    You are using sources of White people who have defined themselves as Jews but not as the Original Jews.  
    Of course they would throw down the Bible.  

     

    All of the religous scriptures you have in your positon either come from or pass through the hands of Caucasians.

    Even if you say the Bible was from Black people, it was a Caucasian publishing company and printing press that printed it up and distributed it.  So they had their hands on it.




     

    The Bible defines Nimrod as being the founder of AKKAD and as being CUSH HAM. Sargon in the Bible is NOT at all connected to Nimrod, but he is connected to Elam and the ASSYRIANS--ASSHUR SHEM. SARGON, GUDRUN, THE GUNNERS... 
    The Bible states that the White Syrians overthrew the Black Babylonians long after the Cushites set up SUMERIA.  
    THE BIBLE states that Asshur Shem was educated in Nimrods Babylon and then set up his cities in the land of Syria today. 
    The BIBLE reveals that Asshur Shem was part White, NOT Nimrod, the mighty hunter before the Lord.  
    SARGON was indeed half-African but NOT Nimrod. Sargon and his descendants were part of the reason the Sumerians were overthrown. 
    Assyrians were very evil and they separated from the Syrians. Your sources have completely White washed the true founders of  
    Cush Babylon. 

     

    Lol......
    There you go relying on the Bible again.
     

    Yes Nimrud was the founder of Akkad, because Nimrud and Sargon was the same person.

    Also, Sargon and CAIN (Abel's brother) was the same person also.....because the myths were combined.

    I don't know about the Syrians but the Caucasian Akkadians overthrew the Black Sumerians who were already in Sumer....true.

    The chief Sumerian city in that region was BAB'EL (which means the gate of El ).  Later on the Assyians changed the name to Babylon.
    Caucasians have a habit of changing the names of the cities once they conquer and occupy them.....like they did with Salem.




     

    do you believe that the Steppe Pyramid is still here today in Egypt? 
    Do you believe the Steppe Pyramid was constructed as many script attest, during the time of Djoser, during the 3rd Dynasty of Egypt? 
    If not, then why?  

     

    Yes, I do believe the Steppe pyramid is still in Kemet.  But I don't know when it was built and won't even speculate as to when.
     


  23. Chev

     

    It's not about rejecting your sources, but it's about confirming them to being truth or not. 
     

    So how do we determine whether the source itself is a good one and true or not?

    If the source says ANYTHING that turns out to be false (even if it doesn't relate to the subject in reference) then does that mean the source is no longer credible?

     

     

     

     

    ADD to this list the Ethiopian Jews and Eritreans, and many Beja people, etc. TRULY, there is nothing else, no other ancient script source to use that connects Black AFrica to its past and to the SUPREME BEING. Outside of these kinds of ancient script as well as Egyptian script, etc. all there is would be this voting system of America and Europe. There is nothing else. JOHN 3:16. It's either what has been offered to us from above or many will go down to perdition with the very people that enslaved us. Otherwise, there would be no need for the prophecy of the apocalypse. GOD plans to end this world system that we humans have allowed to set up according to prophecy. Just like the servants of the Egyptians during the Exodus, if we agree with the very system that oppressed us, then we will go down with this system when it is ultimately judged.


    PIoneer1, according to prophecy, there are only a few pathways to overcome this kind of race hatred going on but if you know of another pathway then, I would like to hear it! 
    Fighting against a militant government is not going to work in my opinion.  


    Here is the deal........

    We don't like how our people are and have been treated by this nation, but for much of our time in this nation we didn't feel we had the power to stop it.  So it's part of normal human psychology to "make sense" of this situation by looking for excuses to JUSTIFY why our people continue to be in the situation they are in.
     

    Like if a person get's a serious problem and they break down and cry and ask "what did I do to deserve this"...inferring that it's some sort of Divine punishment why this is happening.  They rarely say it's happening because they weren't strong enough or smart enough to stop it....they don't want to admit that.
     

    They lose a child to a terrible disease and say it was a "test" or it was some sort of punishment.....instead of saying they weren't smart enough to come up with the cure for the disease that killed her.


    Many if not most people can not mentally tolerate something terrible happening to them or their people regardless as to whether it's their fault or not, so they have to "make sense" of it or believe it's part of some major plan or design.  
    And this is where religions and prophecies often come in.  It helps to:
     

    a) Give an explanation to people as to why they are in the bad condition they are in.....even if it's a false explanation.  
    (Oh...you were made a slave out of as a TEST.   Oh....your people were killed off because they were really "chosen".  Oh......your people are poor in order that they may become "spiritually rich".)
    This helps them to "make sense" of their situation....so they think.  
    But it really leads to more problems as the same problem continues without resolving itself.


    b)  These religions and prophecies usually gives them HOPE that all the pain and misery they're going through will soon end and salvation is right around the corner if they will just "wait" and hold on and be good.

    Problem with THIS is......for 400 years a lot of AfroAmericans were born - lived- and dies expecting Jesus to come back and save them, expecting the Caucasian world to end, expecting this and that, and it didn't happen.   Instead the Caucasian continued to rule and Africans continued to be oppressed and one generation after the next saw this but the next kept on believing until THEY died.

    This is one of the reasons the Chinese and Cubans were in favor of getting rid of religion all together.
    They knew it was used to OPPRESS people by preventing them from rising up and fighting back against the colonizers because most of them would rather stay quiet and wait on "salvation" to save them.

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