Pioneer1

Nubian

Many parts of the Bible made more sense to me once I was able to:

1. Read and understand a more proper translation and understanding of the Hebrew and Greek words that were MIS-interpreted into English.
For example instead of the word "god" in the English translation, the original Hebrew word is "Elohim" which means "mighty/high ones" and was applied to a group of beings.

2. Understood that it was a collection of books meant for Caucasians and not to be applied to the rest of humanity.
For example, when you read about Adam in the Garden of Eden and realize that Adam doesn't represent humanity but the first White man (as the name "Adam" implies) being driven out of Black civilization, things begin to make more sense.

Infact, much of the Old Testament of the Bible....especially the parts after Noah and his sons came down from Mt. Ararat....is about the exploits and wars the Caucasians had with the ancient Black civilizations of Africa and Asia after they were civilized, organized, and came down from the Caucasus mountains.

Nubian

I tend to take a more pragmatic approach to the imporance of religion in society.

It may be based on myths, lies, and legends, but if it keeps you from breaking into my house or raping the girl next door, then by all means go to church and continue to serve your White Jesus UNTIL your ignorant beliefs are replaced by a truth that is more effective.

I would prefer a society that is peacefully controlled and well behaved under lies, over one that has become violent and embolded by the belief that there is no power to stop them from committing any heinous act they wish with impunity.

12 minutes ago, Cynique said:

  I'm not wasting any more time arguing with you.

Now you're on the right track

And if you'll take it a step further.......
Besides no longer arguing against it but actually ACCEPTING what I tell you as valuable knowledge that will give you more insight into what would otherwise be considered political confusion, you'd REALLY be in good shape!
Infact, you could actually have a decent political discussion without the risk of looking like disoriented fool, lol.

Nancy Pelosi is a political actress.

When I say "what's new" that's not my dismissing the fact that it actually COULD be an extraterrestrial craft; I'm just of the mindset that if it's not going to come to Earth and help me and other AfroAmericans improve our condition in this world.....what good is it to us?

Bill Cosby just got moved to general population in prison....will they beam him out?
Lt. Governor Justin Fairfax is being railroaded and victimized by those in his own party....will they come to his support?
Innocent Black people have been killed by racist police officers an civilians....will they help prevent this from happening again and/or bring those slain people back to life?

We need help!

If these beings in this craft aren't coming to help us out or atleast teach us how to help ourselves then why should we be concerned?

Cynique

Who planned them? The woman he forced to give him a blow job and the one he raped?

I don't know that he "raped" anyone, do you?
Were you there?

There hasn't been an investigation or due process as Mr. Fairfax is wisely asking for, just a bunch of accusations and allegations that so many are obviously accepting as the absolute truth.  Didn't Black men used to get LYNCHED based on simple accusations of rape in that very state?

But as far as who planned them, no it weren't those women....they were just being USED by the racist politicians BOTH Democrat (like Patrick Hope) and Republican who are conspiring together to keep a Balck man out of that Governor's seat.

Cynique
 

What federal position has Romney fucked up?

Besides running for President twice and losing, he was offered several jobs in Trump's cabinet and I've heard that even Obama offered him some federal positions but after a meeting or two with both he didn't get those positions.

But if he managed to snag himself a seat in the Senate then perhaps the "curse" is broken, lol.

I don't trust Fox anymore than I trust the rest of them, I trust what I see and have been observing from Pelosi and Schumer for YEARS. They play games and PRETEND to oppose the right-wing policies of the GOP all the while enabling them through the backdoor.

Making baby faces and clapping at him is just her trying to be cute....as usual; but not putting up a REAL fight or opposition to his policies. And again, many of the incoming younger Democrats KNEW this already and this is why they so vehemently opposed her leadership. They knew it would just be more acting and business as usual...which I'm sure is what happened at the SOTU address the other night.

Just because most White people MAY have stayed home instead of bothering to vote doesn't mean they don't support Trump or his policies. Look at those Coventing Kentuky highschool boys who were mocking that Native American man a few weeks ago. They weren't old enough to vote but they all had Make America Great Again caps on. You don't have to be a voter to be a supporter of Trump and his policies.

I think Fairfax is making a smart move by calling for an FBI investigation of these allegations.

They didn't come up out of "nowhere".....they were planned and I believe racially motivated from both sides to keep him out of that Governor's seat should Northam resigns or is forced out. 


 

20 minutes ago, Cynique said:

@Pioneer1 i don't need you to tell me what spirituality is to me. You are no authority on the subject.  stfu

The spirit realm IS the spirit realm.....how it "is to you" is irrelevant.

1 hour ago, Cynique said:

To me spirituality is being good company for yourself, becoming one with nature and discerning the essence of others.  

This has less to do with being more "spiritual" and more to do with a change of mindset.

There's a difference between a REASON and a PLAN.
Everything happens for a reason, but there doesn't necessarily have to be an organized plan behind it.
 

But Elijah Muhammad taught that "wise Black scientists" got together and PRE-WROTE the events that were supposed to take place at the beginning of each 25,000 year cycle of history.
If this were true, then it would add credibility to the concept of pre-destination.

Cynique

How is Pelosi kicking his ass when not only is impeachment pretty much off the table as far as she's concerned but she made a concession with him to open the government back up and she was clapping every 5 minutes for him at his SOTU speech?
Seems to me she's more eager to work with him than lead the opposition from the "opposition party".
 

There is very real concern among powerful whites in high places that retaining Trump as president is not in the best domestic or global interest of America, and the majority of the population black and white want him gone

Here you go assuming what the majority of White people want or feel.
He's the same today as he was 3 years ago when the MAJORITY of White people voted for him, so why would you think that now all of a sudden after he's pretty much doing much of what he said he was going to do that his White supporters would change and turned coat?

If his election to office taught you anything it should have been that most White people LOVE Trump regardless of his economic policies, because of what he represents which is unapologetic White dominance.

Pence is too wedded to the Evangelical agenda and, because he is a true conservative, there's a lot of talk about him being even worse than Trump considering how he governed the state of Indiana where he invoked a lot of hate. Recently-elected Senator Mitt Romney has a better chance because he is a middle of the road moderate who will appeal to a broader base not only in his own party but in the country at large.

The fact that Pence is a clear cut conservative is what makes him so attractive to most real Republicans and conservatives both Black and White. They know where he stands so his policies and positions....like them or not....will be more stable and reliable.
People like reliability and consistency.

And as far as Romney......
I don't make it a habit of going around using "Trumpisms" but when it comes to federal elections and appointments like even Trump said about him- "the guy doesn't even know HOW to win", lol.
Everytime he gets near a federal position he fucks it up.....lol.
He best keep his ass overthere in Utah, chill with the Mormons, and be quiet.

Troy

I definately believe most men are better at giving and receiving directions as well as judging distances. I've had to many incidents with both men and women to believe any different.
 

Chev

When my husband turned it on, and it started talking, I would flip out and demanded that he turn it off.

Oh, were you getting jealous and didn't want your husband to get too comfortable?
Siri does indeed have a slightly "sexy" voice....lol.

When I would drive from North Carolina to Pennsylvania, I would complain that it would take me through all these little 'Andy Griffith towns' so that I would have to stop and buy gas there, but I came to realize, these routes were much better and faster...

Yes, and if there's one thing Pennsylvania has a lot of.....it's little "Andy Griffith" towns.
Despite being on the Eastcoast, most of that state is racist as hell.
I've lived in both Pennsylvania and the Carolinas and it's amazing that when you get outside of Philly or Pittsburgh you see more plaid shirts and hear more country music than I did IN the Carolinas. The only part of that state I really like is the Lancaster area with the Amish communities because of how clean and peaceful it is.

Troy

EVERYONE is spiritual....whether they know it or not.
Because everyone has a spirit (atleast one).
The question is how IN TUNE people are with their spirit and soul/essence.

I'm not as hard on religion as I used to be because I now realize that some people "need" religion to give them a moral compass and structure in their life. Take away their religion and they turn savage, lol.
It becomes a problem when it's taken to an extreme and/or becomes externally divisive.

I don't just believe everything happens for a reason, I KNOW it does.
...because every event has a cause (reason).

The question is WHAT was/were the reason(s) that caused the event?

Were they Divine, purely physical, spiritual, cosmic, imaginary, accidental, "other".....or a combination of the afore mentioned.

So.....what else is new?

On ‎2‎/‎7‎/‎2019 at 2:25 AM, Cynique said:

You don't know that the governor's actions stemmed from a deep desire rooted in his past.  I think it was more about him being oblivious and indifferent to the feelings of blacks because they weren't important to him back then. Yes, Rush and Wright were reacting to racism, but you can abhor racism without resorting to vitriolic epithets. ( MLK did this successfully and Malcolm X retracted a lot of his fiery anti-white rhetoric when he left the black Muslims.) You never know when your words or actions will come back to haunt you and when they do, you have to do damage control, instead of sulking.  Which was what Wright did.  Rush kissed ass to get in the good graces of Chicago's Democratic machine and they forgave him.  The governor apologized, and i think Democrats and blacks should accept his apology and move on instead of seeking revenge and holding grudges.  They need all of the people in positions of power they can get if they want to defeat Trump.  But, of course, we are now living in a "gotcha" society. So, let the chips fall where they may.  

Sillique

"move on"????????

This shows how much you know about politics at the local level and on the INTERNAL level.

It's not about forgiveness or some damn apology......
It's about using this as an opportunity to get some sort of benefit.
The Black politicians of Virginia should have taken that clown behind closed doors and told him we'll forgive you and keep you in office ONLY IF you do: A, B, C, & D for us!

Now there's talk of them trying to force Fairfax (the Black Lt. Governor of Virginia) to RESIGN over a 2nd accusation of sexual assault. This is clearly racially motivated by Caucasian politicians on BOTH sides (Democrat and Republican) to move him out of the way so there won't be a Black Governor should Northam be forced out.

I read this book years ago.
Forgot the gist of it but it's quite fitting because years earlier me and some other people were in a panel discussion with some Black people from England and we were discussing the marital and relationship problems that Black people face both in the United States and the United Kingdom and how similar they are and some of the younger ones mentioned a program there that asked "Is marriage for White people".

I don't think marriage itself is for White people, but the TYPE of marriage (monogamous) that is instituted and re-enforced in the West IS for White people because it works best for them.
Just like the nuclear family structure that is so common in the West works best for them; while I believe the extended family and group family structure is best for our people as AfroAmericans.

Lol @ Del putting Troy on the spot about his expertise.
He didn't just put him out there once, but doubled down on it.....lol.
 

Chev

I don't trust GPS anyway, which is why I love using MAPS.
Good ole fashioned maps. Infact, the SOUND of that GPS talking while I'm driving and trying to figure out where we are is annoying.
For whatever reason most women love GPS and hate maps and if I'm driving with one of my lady friends and we're in a place we're not familiar with friction often breaks out in the car because they want to turn on GPS and put their faith in that and I keep making them turn that shit off so I can concentrate on the streets and landmarks I'm looking for.....lol.

If Trump even runs again....because I don't think he even has the desire to do the job anymore.....the ONLY way he'll get the popular vote in 2020 is if AfroAmericans become so depressed, discouraged, and apathetic that they do the same thing they did in 2016 but only in greater numbers.

Honestly, if any Republican gets in office in 2020 I think the one most likely to get the spot will be Pence. He's sitting back being quiet waiting for the "process" to play out so that HE can be next in line either due to impeachment or by election. I don't like his policies but I certainly think he's Presidential in terms of looks and demeanor.

Kamala Harris is a Democratic joke.
She's a woman of color.....which color I'm not sure, lol.....but if most White women weren't ready to get behind one of their OWN women for President (Clinton) what makes you think they would get behind Kamala?
They'll get behind Elizabeth Warren before they get behind Kamala.
I think Corey Booker has a better chance than Kamala, but I don't think he'll get it either.

At this point, I'm really not sure which Democrat will take the lead but it probably doesn't matter because I truly believe that events will transpire to put Pence in the spot as President after Trump either prematurely or in 2020.

6 minutes ago, Troy said:

You aint miss anything really.

 

But if 45 continues to read what he is given, without going off script,  manage to stay out of jail, continue to gerrymander democrats out of existance, and continue the use of Russian trolls. He has a very good shot in 2020. 

He wouldn't have lasted in office THIS long if it weren't for the fact that most of the Caucasian Democrats REALLY are supporting him and helping to keep him in office.  .....including Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer.

That's one of the reasons so many young Democrats of color didn't want Pelosi to regain the position of House Speaker and fought with other Democrats bitterly over this issue; because they knew she's continue to play this "game" with him of merely PRETENDING to oppose him.

On ‎2‎/‎5‎/‎2019 at 4:15 PM, Cynique said:

i do defend black men when i agree with them.  i never stopped taking up for Colin Kaepernick, unlike you. I had no reason to defend Cosby and his lecherous behavior. Black folks blew off whites who wanted Obama to distance  himself from Reverend Jeremiah Wright's incendiary racial remarks during his campaign, but they observe a different standard when it comes to white folks who were products of their time  before they later changed their views. This latest incident is another distraction that helps to fragment the Democratic party and it supplies ammunition for the Republicans. By the time 2020 rolls around, all of these Democratic candidates and the constant in-fighting will just hand the election to Trump. Unacceptable.  This governor has learned his lesson by default and wouldn't dare to anything else to offend his black constituency.  Plus it's now surfacing that  the black lieutenant governor who would be in line to succeed him, is rumored to have been charged with sexual harassment.  It's always something!    

You can't equate Black reaction to racism with racist Caucasian behavior itself.

If a woman sees a man who raped her in the past and she starts crying and throwing things at him saying "leave me alone you bastard".....would any intelligent person accuse her of being "incendiary" or  hateful?

Bobby Rush and Rev. Wright were REACTING to the racism they both faced in their lives from Caucasian hostility. No Black person attacked or demeaned Gov. Northam as a child or young adult to push him toward wearing black-face or posing with a Klansman, so his behavior wasn't a reaction to an offense but was a deep desire of his that he felt was "fun" to make fun of how Africans look.
 

Still observing the results, lol.

 

I've decided NOT to listen to his speech.

I'm not drinking any Kool-Aid he's offering.

 

Not sure how well he did as I'm just now getting home and have to check it out for myself but.....

All this talk about Black unemployment being at it's lowest in history is a damn lie.
I remember myself when far more Black people were working in the late 70s and early 80s. than they are today and that's just the time period I've witnessed.   They are using DECEPTIVE unemployment figures that only count people who are receiving unemployment checks....meaning you were actually "laid off".  If you quit a job, got fired from a job, never had a job to begin with, or are locked up in jail where thousands of Black men are.....you're not considered "unemployed". 

The longer he remains in office, the more opportunities he'll have to pull rabbits out of the hat and tricks from up his sleaves to keep his position. One of his strategies is to find SOMETHING each group likes and touch on THAT issue in order to get support from all of them.

17 minutes ago, Troy said:

 

Why am I not surprised you have a list of gay bars at your disposal.

With all the shit they're putting in the water here in Michigan and how it affects your behavior, a man never knows when he may get the "urge" to cross over to the other side (if you know what I mean).