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ProfD Mayor Eric Adams getting re-elected would be win for him. It will do nothing to improve the overall perception of Black men. In other words, his Chess move isn't a checkmate. Well remember what I say from time to time about these Black politicians..... Even if they don't do anything FOR the rest of us, if they don't do any harm...them just being IN OFFICE is a micro-win for our people albeit at an individual level, lol. However I DO believe Adams staying in that seat would be a good lesson to those Black politicians who are observant. The lesson being....be loyal to those who help you, not simply because of party affiliation. Although Trump hasn't done anything for AfroAmericans as a whole (yet...lol) he HAS helped out a lot of AfroAmericans individually. Reads like you have accepted that racism should exist or at a minimum, people should be comfortable with it on some level. Do our people have a CHOICE? If we have a choice, let's exercise our options and hurry up and GET FREE of this system! Human being should not have to choose the lesser of two evils when it comes to racism. "should not" is the operative phrase. I will never accept the system of racism white supremacy. And you don't have to. When you LEAVE it and find another one that's better, I'll give you my number so you can text me the information I need to exit out of this mug and join you so we can BOTH live in a system of peace and prosperity absent of White racism. When are you going, btw??? I will never accept that humans should oppress each other. And if you don't want to.....you shouldn't!

ProfD Black folks don't have a monopoly on forming tribes for destructive purposes. No, however when you study history you notice 2 glaring differences between how Black people form tribes and how White people form tribes. 1. Black people (whether in Africa or the Americas) tend to be MORE divided among eachother than White people. Something well known that even the most pro-Black leaders through out history have to admit 2. In multi-racial societies where White people have to live with other groups: While Black people often form tribes and attack OTHER Black people, White people often form tribes for the purpose of attacking other people of color and NOT their own. *Note that I used the word "often" to prevent you and frankster from saying "White folks do it too" or "Not all Black folks do it" to justify dismissing the observation....lol. frankster I question the circles you are in as this question is based solidly in a racist stereotyping of black Africans. I question what PLANET you live on where all the niggas are so united....certainly not this one, lol. As I said, Africans are among the most divided people of the globe....literally. There are more languages and ethnic groups among Black Africans than anywhere else on the planet. I'm not sure but I've heard it said that there are actually more languages and ethnic groups among Black Africans than even the rest of humanity COMBINED. ...again, not sure how factual that is, but I wouldn't be surprised. Most Africans I know, when they talk about their home countries will tell me about the HUNDREDS of ethnic groups and languages spoken there in that one nation alone! Any studies to back this up? Come on man you don't need a "study" to confirm this. Go to any restaurant or coffee shop and tell me if you see any Black men piled up at the same table eating and talking over eachother. If they're at the same table they may be talking and sipping on coffee or tea but certainly not hugged up next to eachother EATING unless there are some women among them. I certainly don't do it...do you?

That's what I'm wondering. What is talking for 25 hours supposed to accomplish...besides laryngitis?

Wait a minute! This thread was started by richardmurray??? For some reason I thought Del started it....lol. Uh ohhhhh...... Be careful richardmuray! When you start talking about astronomy and astrology now you're straying into @Delano's territory....lol.

richardmurray I see your position. You do???? Shit! Let me close the curtains on my living room window then....lol. All i will add now is one reminder, all countries in human history change as they gain or lose power through war, and while some changes are planned by the powerful in any country , some are not planned or wanted. Understandable. But in the MEAN time...IN BETWEEN time...let us enjoy and take advantage of our citizenship in the world's currently most powerful nation. Most other Black people around the planet would give all they currently have to be in our position as American citizens. We need to be appreciative for that much. ProfD I don't believe the planet is suppsed to be ruled by any nation. I personally believe that in any system...SOMEBODY has to be in charge. Whether you're talking about a school system, economic system (business) or global system. Somebody has to be the clear head authority. If everybody is in charge and doing their own thing that SOUNDS nice...on paper...but it would actually lead to MORE chaos and instability because stronger nations would be bullying and taking over weaker nations without any fear of punishment or retaliation.

ProfD I'm not a New Yorker but I want him to stay in that seat. Not for Musk/Trump and the boys....but as an example of how Black men should side with the White folks who look out for THEM in action, not just talk. There's a LESSON to be learned by Adams' remaining in that office. It will teach other Black youth and Black politicians how they should move. The thing about Trump is....much of the time he backs his words up with ACTION. He SAYS he's going to do AB&C and actually tries to do it....unless somebody stops him. Which means if you do his bidding....he usually will look out for you. Even if he's racist and wants you to help him do something unethical.....he's not likely to abandon you like the Democrats have a history of doing with their Black politicians. Again, no racists is very "good" for us; but often times it's a matter of choosing the LESSER of two evils if you just HAVE to choose. Most of that "peace and love" talk a lot of the Democrats and Liberals don't mean a damn thing if they aren't providing TANGIBLE BENEFITS and helping their Black comrades out in their times of need. I'd rather choose the racist who: 1. Keeps his word MOST of the time and 2. Atleast promises me something and delivers on that promise if I do his bidding.

Maybe you were just embellishing the feeling a bit....but to me when I hear a person say they NEED this or that to relax, that's a red flag that it may be addictive. Like cigarettes, liquor, and other substnaces. If you simply WANT it or ENJOY it...that's one thing. But when you start NEEDING it.....that's another. For the past 10 years or so....since they've legalized it...I've heard so many people say they just GOTTA have a smoke. Can't wait until they get off work or get home from work before they blaze up. Even back in the 90s when "the chronic" was very popular...a lot of people still regulated it to the weekends and didn't say they "needed" it. It was more of a chill or party thing. Now a lot of people say they NEED it just to stay "right".

frankster We all should hope and pray our country emulate them as well. I can think of many other things that are MUCH better for us to pray for....lol.

Ah, that doesn't fade Musk and 'em....lol. He just BOUGHT a fucking President and got him doing his bidding for him and running the world the way he wants it....so he's not going to let the losses in a few states stop him. They're looking at the bigger over-all picture. You win some...you lose some....but as long as you count more wins than losses!

richardmurray ALL Black people on the planet have had SOME influence on the planet to various degrees, but none have had the impact and influence that Black Americans have had and continue to have.....politically, socially, and entertainment wise. We don't KNOW the future, however I'd argue that if the ENTIRE world were to collapse...including the United States...then perhaps the entire Black population of the planet may be better off because that would allow us to start a new civilization. However if ONLY the United States were to collapse but the rest of the world remained intact...NO...ABSOLUTELY NOT...would the rest of the Black population be alright. I'd argue that things would probably be WORSE because that role of "world leader" will quickly be filled by OPENLY racist anti-Black nations like China or Russia or some Arab nation. And unlike some in the U.S. government...they will be less "covert" in their various anti-Black operations. No sir, we're better off with the U.S.A. in charge...in MY opinion. Atleast with the U.S.A. incharge....you have enough Black Americans WITH power to influence America to intervene and keep the other racists from being TOO violent toward the rest of the global Black population. Look at our influence on de-colonizing Africa and the role we played in ending Apartheid in South Africa! That wouldn't have happened as quickly if there was no U.S. with her Black American influence. We don't need Russia or fucking China ruling the world. They'd enslave and decimate much of the Black population and wouldn't feel guilty about it. The Arabs would keep the Black WOMEN to fuck...but they'd probably treat the Black MEN like they did for centuries when they first started enslaving Africans - make "eunuchs" out of many of them. Which gives you an idea of how they see YOU and what they'd DO to you if they ruled the world. No sir..... I say we keep America incharge UNTIL a better nation comes along to rule the planet. Like a sorry ass husband who's barely helping a woman get by....lol. He may not be ideal...but if she ain't got nobody else then he'll just have to "do" until a better man comes along....lol. U.S.A....U.S.A...U.S.A.....all day.

Globally speaking, the White population is shrinking. If they want to continue to rule the world they're going to have to increasingly learn to do it by PROXY. There are probably almost 2 BILLION Chinese on the planet today and no telling how many OTHER Asians. Many if which who are in love with White people and their culture and would gladly do their bidding for them if given the opportunity. White folks wouldn't have to do the "dirty" work of enforcing their racist policies. All they'd have to do is just sit in an airconditioned room somewhere and get their Asian flunkies to "handle that" for them. A lot of White people have discovered that actually NON-white people often make better racists then even White folks themselves! They tend to be less apologetic and more open with their racism since they don't have to worry about the accusations of Slavery and Colonialism. If all of the White people on the planet disappeared overnight....the LEGACY of White racism would continue for generations because it's so ingrained in the cultures and mentality of so many people who hold it up as ideal. You got a "preview" of what's to come starting in the 80s and 90s when after the riots the White business owners got driven out of the 'hood and the Black businesses took over; they had to figure out a way to replace them, so what did they do? They couldn't bring back the White business owners again because that was too obvious so they brought the non-Whites in and gave THEM the businesses to help strip away the Black businesses. The Koreans, the Indians, the Arabs, the Latinos, etc....... See that? That was a PREVIEW of what they want to do globally by using non-Whites as their proxies.

ProfD IMO, humans are tribal by nature. In complex societies, people belong to more than one tribe. Ofcourse all population groups share some tribalist tendencies, however some seem to exhibit more than others. To be clear, when I speak of Black folks being tribal, I mean "tribal" as in grouping up for malicious purposes simply to oppose another Black person. Whether it's in a nation, a school, or on the job. See other Black people and just form gangs and cliques so people can have your "back" as you go out attack another brother or sister. Mel Throughout history, it seems as though Africans wouldn't marry their siblings unless absolutely necessary. From what I read, however, I don't think cousins, aunts, and uncles were off-limits. Most people of color BY NATURE won't marry or mate with their close relatives. The only reason so many Africans do it today is because they learned it from and was told it was ok by outsiders like Europeans, Arabs, Persians, etc...who invaded and forced some of their jacked-up cave man values and culture on the indigenous populations. Those afore mentioned peoples married and mated with close relatives for racist and financial reasons. Being Caucasian living among people of color...they wanted to maintain the "purity" of their race and thought they could do so by mating with close family members instead of the people of color they had conquered. The financial reasons consist of marrying close family members to keep their wealth in the family. A lot of Askenazi Jews practice this. Maybe our "tribes" are extended family members, and some family members by marriage. For example, my second cousin is married to a woman whose uncle is Eric Adams, the Mayor of New York. So, through marriage, one of my family/tribe members just escaped federal indictment because one member has ties with Donald. Speaking of Eric Adams, I just posted a thread about him running as an Independent....lol. Mayor Eric Adams Making Chess Moves frankster Humans are not tribal by Nature....Humans are Social by Nature. Yes humans in general are social, however I'm not talking about humans in general but Black people in specific and it seems as if we tend to be very divided and often times SEEK division and separation from eachother more so than most other groups. Even when it comes to observing something as simple as eating a meal together. I notice that Arabs, Asians, Latinos....the men...7 or 8 of them can pile up together and sit at ONE table eating, talking, and spiting over eachother having a GOOD time. No problem. However you rarely see Black men of ANY nationality piling up that close to eachother to eat.

How ironic that Adams' "trumped up" charges were DROPPED by Trump....lol. NYC Mayor Eric Adams is ditching the Democratic Party as he seeks reelection NYC Mayor Eric Adams running for reelection as independent WISE move Mayor Adams....WISE move! Remember I called it over a month ago. I said he was going to leave the Democratic Party.....I said THAT on this very site. I had been saying off line and online and I MIGHT have said on this site that if he wants to be re-elected he better run as an Independent. He can't trust the Democratic leadership in New York state, and NYC is too blue to support a Republican mayor (Don't bring up Guliani. He only got elected because he came behind a Black mayor....but that's another conversation). Independent is the way to go. Sorry Andy (Cuomo) but you ain't got a chance now since he's gone Independent. If he had stayed a Democrat, the racist White Democratic leadership wouldn't have supported him. They would back Cuomo or someone else instead. But now that he's Independent....he's free to get support from whoever wants to. He's probably going to be endorsed by Donald Trump....which is probably why he went Independent in the first place. Does anybody else remember when I also said that if Trump, Musk, and the rest of the boys were wise....they'd not only get those charges dropped but also keep him as Mayor of New York so he can hold things down as a flunky for the Trump Administration? And look at what's happening! I am in no way endorsing Trump, Musk, or the Republican platform. But I am supporting a professional Black man who has been a victim of "trumped up" (trump dropped???) charges and an attempt by his own party to strip him of his duly elected powers. The Democrat racists wanted to strip him of his Mayor's office and toss him in jail. Trump and the Republicans saved him and wants to install him as one of "their own" flunkies. If I just HAVE to choose between 2 racists....I'll choose the one who is going to help me the most and harm me the least. I'm so proud of my brutha that he made this decision.

After watching a documentary about the Bloods and Crips gangs in Los Angeles and how they were founded and how they evolved, and the gang life among some AfroAmericans in various cities through out the United States in general....a few people actually described the different gangs and their sets (set = local subgroup of the much larger gang) as "tribes". When I heard this, I thought of our brother @richardmurray and how he often describes the various socio-political groups within AfroAmerica as "tribes". I've heard it said that Black people....not just in the United States but worldwide...are "tribal" by nature. That we look for different ways to group up and form cliques with eachother for the purposes of separating and distinguishing ourselves from eachother....often times JUST BECAUSE. Sometimes religion is used. Sometimes skin tone is used. Sometimes region and nationality is used. Sometimes the side of the city you're from (Eastsiders vs Westsiders) is used. And if you can't find a reason...MAKE UP one....like what color clothes you wear like the gangs in Los Angeles or what street/block you live on. How true do you think this is? Do you think was as AfroAmericans are actually "tribal" by nature or do you think this was instilled into our people by outside forces?

ProfD While there hasn't been an all out WAR....yet...Israel has been going into Iran destroying facilities and issuing targeted assassinations for years. Shooting missiles directly into the nation and even the capital destroying factories and residences and it appears that Iran hasn't stopped them from doing it. The only exception I can remember was some months ago when Iran shot a barrage of misses at Israel for either it's treatment of the Palestians or the assassination of one of it's main leaders or both, I forgot the exact reason. Israel floats a missile in to hit a nuclear facility, destroying a complex and killing a bunch of scientists and in response? ....Iran holds a rally and the people wave a bunch of banners and chant a few anti-Israel slogans.....then after a day or two it's back to "normal". One could argue that the only reason there HASN'T been an all out war between Israel and Iran is because Iran is smart enough to know better.

ProfD The POTUS cannot change the US Constitution. Apparently THIS one can...lol. He's already overriding the 14th Amendment to deport the children of immigrants who were born on U.S. soil. And they're actually floating around the idea of deporting actual AMERICANS who are convicted of certain crimes. Damn. In 2008, Vlady Putin served as Russian prime minister under President Dmitry Medvedev. After one term as prime minister, Putin has been re-elected to 6-year terms. He's been running the country for 25 years and counting Yeah, he's been "leader" of Russia in one position or another since the 90s...lol.

He might just get rid of terms period and declare himself the "People's President". Which means he'll be President until "the people decide" they want a new one. (wink wink)....lol.

That's commendable. Even with that mentality, how EFFECTIVE do you think they'd be in warding off an actual attack from America....or even Israel?

FEW years??? Obviously you're not taking Trump's "third term" talk seriously....lol.

Exactly. The lesson to learn here............ GET SOME POWER -and people will treat you better and more respectfully. If you notice, they don't treat North Korea like they treat Iran, either....lol. They handle North Korea with almost the same respect they handle Russia with. Get some power.

umbrarchist Believe it or not, you can be solidly in the middle class without a car PERIOD. And I'm not talking about those living in New York or Boston, but those living in the South or Midwest who can't afford one at the moment. Just because you can't afford a car, doesn't necessarily mean your poor.

Cynique I actually remember that. I started to make a Dear Abby joke about it, but decided not to...lol.

Cynique @ProfD &Pioneer1: I know you 2 are not seriously asking me why my generation didn't break the -no....I'm not That question came from ProfD, not me. I figured you were too busy sorting mail in the back of some post office to monitor the political climate of Black America back in the 60s, 70s, and 80s....lol.

Mel I'm a firm believer in doing and promoting what actually WORKS to solve or cure a problem. Your daughter wanted to be treated by traditional medicine and in many cases that works, but in other cases the more alternative approach works which is why INTEGRATIVE Medicine is generally the best option for serious illnesses like Cancer. You can get the type of aggressive treatment needed and often times with minimal side effects. The problem arises over who's going to PAY for the various treatments because so many insurance companies act so janky when it comes to covering alternative and experimental treatments. This is just another reason we need Univeral Healthcare. If....in accordance with the theme of your thread...many of these healthcare providers are using these patients as ATM machines get as much money out of them as they can before letting them go, atleast the patients don't have to deal with the stress of arguing with these evil insurance companies over what they will and won't cover. President Obama said something he'd never forget and what pushed him to promote and sign in the Affordable Care Act was seeing his own mother spend the last few months of her life arguing with insurance companies over her hospitalizations and treatments. Or I wonder why my father didn't survive that bullet wound. Plenty of people survive getting shot. Maybe YOU wanted him to survive but depending on where he was shot and how badly he was wounded...would HE have wanted to survive? Sometimes people CHOOSE to exit this mug early. Earlier than we'd like them to...... As much as you love somebody sometimes you have to think about the suffering (the psychological stress alone) they may infact end up going through if they stay here and "tough it out". I just saw an article a few days ago about how a the death toll from that Columbine Highschool shooting rose by 1 because one of the students...now in her 40s recently passed away DECADES after being shot and paralyzed. Columbine shooting survivor dies 26 years after being paralyzed in massacre | Columbine | The Guardian Besides being paralyzed, she had been dealing with other complications from that shooting since the 90s. Everybody ain't built to go through that type of psychological stress. ProfD Powerful people understand religion is form of mind control. Absolutely When the Europeans and Arabs came into Africa...they first used RELIGION to subdue their victims mentally before conquering them physically. The Vatican is more wealthy than several countries combined. Sounds like the Mafia, lol. There's no coincidence that both the La Cosa Nostra (Mafia) and the Roman Catholic Church descended from the Roman Empire after it was broken up. Which countries have nuclear weapons? The ones smart enough to develop them. You don't think the Palestinians would develop nuclear technology...and USE that shit....if they had the ability to? Commititng violence against and oppressing other people is not a sign of intelligence. A bully isn't the smartest person. If we're talking about kids, yes. But if we're talking about adults.......unless they're disabled, why are they in a POSITION to be bullied by another adult in the first place? Especially when you're talking about GROUPS of people. I'm not saying there are no legitimate reasons....just asking what ARE those reasons? Here you are a healthy grown 6 foot 200 pound man...and a 5'5 160 pound man is steadily slapping you around, clowning on you infront of the ladies, and digging his hands all through your pockets taking your money and grinning. That sounds like a man with something "wrong" with him.

umbrarchist It can move? Provided there's an Earthquake...lol. ProfD White people are only tolerating Black folks being in the US because they brought some of our ancestors here Honestly..... I don't think they have much of a choice. Like Dr.Dre said: I'm a nigga you can't remove ....lol. They CAN'T remove us. If they could send us back *somewhere* ships and planes would have been loaded up already Right. They've actually TRIED to several times, but couldn't. Because it's not up to them. We're here for a reason. OTOH, as NF Jr. taught, white folks need Black folks here to mistreat as a class beneath themselves. Well that's another reason. The wise White folks at the top know history and they know that if you got rid of the people of color in society, soon Whites will start oppressing and slaughtering eachother over things like religion or "who's whiter" than the next one. Look at Germany. You gotta have some people of color sprinkled around in every White society to have someone to target and point the finger of blame at. richardmurray i comprehend your position or your point , but it has one fatal flaw, the future is never really known, and remember one little thing, you speak of the usa as you live in it, but the usa has fewer black people in it than brasil, the usa has far fewer black people than in south america or africa or asia. Yeah but what are the Black folks in Brazil and the rest of Latin America DOING? Do they have as much political and social power as us in their society? Are they making as much money as us in their society? Do they have as much global influence as Black Americans? Father to Son: If all you're doing around here is just eating and shitting, I'll let you hang around the house as long as you don't get in the way. But if you start trying to buck up and take over and sit in MY chair, then I might have to kick yo' ass out. ....lol.