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  1. wait @Troy why did you say it will be a better poem? The algorithms are all based on approximations, heuristics, statistics. These are all simulations, not intelligence. This is why the computer chose the poetic form, cause that is the most convenient. Try the same prompt you originally did but tell the computer to make the poetic form a haiku? I imagine the computer will produce a negative result. Poetic forms come in so many ways, the couplet style the computer chooses is the most convenient.
  2. @Troy I love it:) it produced something rythmical. though it clearly didn't know the speech cause biden had tons of policy references , i like the allusion to a hidden laced issue.
  3. https://www.tumblr.com/princessmuk/722972552729853952/attention-fellow-writers
  4. @ProfD and, in the year 2024 , at least in nyc, it is clear that the media's ways have trickled into all populaces. Again , you will be surprised how often I heard latinos- any phenotype, speak ill of illegal immigrants or fiscally poor latinos. And at the end of the day, what is the core idea? You are fortunate, so speak ill about those who are unfortunate in your race. whether phenotypical/geographic/gender or other. It serves the NYPD in their statistic claim. It serves media who likes to announce negativity even if most scenarios are positive. It serves the fortunate in various populaces who don't want to admit how they undercut their own populace supporting dysfunctional ideas.
  5. @Pioneer1 The question to you is simple, what percentage will satisfy you? I will explain. Lets go to the numbers. NYC is over ten million people. Ten percent is one million. One percent is one hundred thousand. Now lets say one hundred thousand people were murdered last year, which didn't happen. This unverifiable website said circa 80,000 people died in NYC from all causes last year. https://deadorkicking.com/death-statistics/us/new-york/2023/ This site also said NYC is circa twenty million people. It also gives the majority of deaths in NYC coming from health things that many suffer from and is not connected in my mind to the nypd or legal issues. Many people in the usa live unhealthy but their deaths are not nypd related. So what is the point between that point and the article I shared to you before, the percentage of deaths in nyc from violence is a fraction of a percent. Based on the unverified website plus my eyes and ears living in NYC. And that has always been true. More people in NYC die from being poor than violence. But again, the issue here isn't poverty but crime, injury from one citizen to another. So , if those that are harmed in NYC is a fraction of one percent, the question to you is... what percentage is acceptable for you to not feel crime is an issue that needs the nypd? 100%? You can say 100% and I totally accept it and oppose your position. But, For me, NYC can go to 95% Five percent of people in NYC being harmed is a negative but with so many people I don't comprehend how that speaks emergency, or need of grand law enforcement. And from people who lived in NYC far longer than me, nyc was never the cesspool of violence suggested in media. well strangified, the people coming in aren't betters just different. You have to comprehend, cost of living in nyc is too high. Many people laughed at the black POAJ guy but he was right, the rent is too high. But the real estate industry is very powerful. To break their influence isn't simple. NYC has such a multracial populace, which is not congruent on any racial quality outside human that no matter who you get, they can always finance another communities elected officials to protect them From elementary to college i walked home from school every day. 99% of the time, no problems whatsoever. through parks, various avenues, in some regions may be not majority black. always some guys out in the street all over. I remember a commercial when i was a kid, a kid is black and running, through his region. and I laughed cause I never ran home. And when i became an adult I realized, and maybe this is you. Maybe someone in your clan got hurt , maybe a child of yours or relative you loved. but you guys are the one percent, not the 99%. I am in the 99% , nothing happened. I had all black friends, we played in the street, went to our various homes. Nothing happened. I realize some people have incidents, negative ones, but i think 99% of black people never have these prolbems but people like you, who admittedly may have been hurt, now want 100% , fear because of life experiences maybe. But those fears are falsely applied on the black populace and moreover are used to maintain negative governmental actions in the usa to black people. I am a black child of NYC, I have been everywhere, every burough. I have relatives in every burough as a child. Your wrong. I realize I have to stop saying no child, but 99% of black children had no problems. They didn't. Well, let's reverse it. NYC, doesn't list how many children happily go to school every day and come back home smiling. I have never seen local NYC media list the number of kids who don't get killed, haven't been bullied, haven't been raped [raping as in stealing a body, not forced fornication]. Why can't the people who aren't killed, who aren't robbed draw attention in NYC? It seems to me, people like you clearly control media in NYC cause media in NYC don't see anything of value with those who are not robbed, not killed, not harmed, having fun, enjoying their lives in their populace. It seems to me, people like you in NYC are willing to keep walking or don't want any attention drawn , when a black child is happy to and from school , playing outside , with black men shirtless selling drugs hanging on a corner. I will accept in NYC drawing attention to those robbed or killed in the local media if the quantity of those who are not gets an equal rate of NYC media's time. Which if course has never happened in NYC. So if less than one percent of the kids in NYC are getting killed then less than one percent of NYC media's time should be to them. And your later prose proves my earlier guess correct. It is unfortunate when someone gets hurt, but the black populace in NYC has existed for too long with those, including in the black populace, who turn the unfortunate scenario for a minority in the black populace of nyc into the status of the whole black populace in nyc and that to me has done far more damage and to be blunt, for the betterment of the black populace in nyc need to stop well, not just lost, but I have an offline friend , went to school together. we are still friends I might add, he lost a family member of his. I am not going to give personal details. But, I told him that it was unfortunate, i am saddened for his lose as a friend, but it didn't warrant what his quite vocal support for the NYPD or various law scenarios. Your certainty is flawed. but I am lucky. I have true friends offline. I am used to talking to my offline friends regularly. and we talk about all sorts of issues to be fair, so this isn't a common situation. Remember, the black populace in nyc is large. IT is the largest of any city in the usa. and with that comes the reality that, you and me and our different circles isn't some impossibility. It isn't a longshot. It is arithmetically very possible. And this goes to the larger issue in the black populace in NYC. I have said for a while, too many black people put on other black people in nyc their experience and again that is where it all goes wrong. Just because everybody died in your family from street violence side other black people, which has happened to some black people in nyc, doesn't mean the existence of a black person in the same city where everybody in their family simply died of old age is impossible, ala me, and what that means is, what is then stop and frisk, the war on drugs, the war on crime when you have such a range. And to my earlier point, the issue is emphasis. And in NYC, the emphasis by media is flawed for me concerning the black populace. Media in NYC which is mostly white owned or controlled, always emphasis the negative minority, the one percent in the black populace, in nyc. in the amsterdam news, i just got this morning @Troy Armstrong williams, whom you know I oppose , is still continuing his viewpoint similar to Pioneer:) about the black populace near the brink. But he is wrong. but again the question is, do you want 100% cause if that is what you want, that is an inhumane desire. And, to go away, Eric Adams, recently has suggested it is time to "Crack down" on immigrant violence. And why? as the city's immigrant populace grows and the media changes its tune on the black populace slowly but surely the NYPD need a new target, they i think want the asian but they aren't large enough, but the illegal immigrant populace is. The media is slowly criminalizing the illegal immigrant more and more. The problem is, many populaces, non black or white, in NYC are used to the media narrative or government legislation to the detriment of or bad speak to the black populace that some in the non black are trying to slow this down. But, the nypd need statistics. That is how it works. In this very community i shared how the nypd literally use black people they pick up and the supposed crime they were picked up for as statistics for those crimes. The nypd don't calculate their wrongful or false actions, they count their successful or their assumed. This will happen with illegal immigrants i bet. It is an easy black book and in media i already saw, people [latinos any phenotype/asians any phenotype] already sound like pioneer, like their community is on the brink, which it isn't. Poverty is just poverty. Yeah is it on the corner. Outside the store. Yeah it drinks, does some crack, meth. yeah it's loud. Sometimes harasses. But usually it doesn't harm.
  6. greater power also exposes more of what you are not. Better hope you have friends. My two questions are the following IF discovery channel takes your name out of a container of random writers names, and gives you the chance to do a superman movie. Describe your film in one sentence? LEt's say Discovery channel chose you and not tae nihis coates to do a black superhero movie, what will the superhero be and describe it in one sentence? My answers, for it isn't fair to ask and not answer:) a human looking alien with super speed/strength/leaping ability/super tough skin raised on a farm in the usa midwest by two loving adopted human parents but born on an alien world whose people's negative bias to leaving led to their destruction while saved from said alien world by his two loving biological parents fights crime on earth as a superhero while working as a private investigator having complex interactions with a human female reporter and young male photographer. My favorite usa based superhero comic is blood syndicate of milestone. sO I will ask discovery for them though I know i have to also ask milestone as well.... and the sentence is -> A group of survivors from a gang battle involving all of the cities urban non white gangs organized by law enforcement plus multiglobal corporations for an illegal or unethical experiment band together to exist as an illegal overseer to a region in the city. BUT , comprehending the inequal answer as it involves milestone not just discovery channel, I will provide an equal answer and say, Black lightning, the sentence is-> a black male schoolteacher happily married to a black woman lives in a financially destitute section of a city with wealth in other regions like metroplis and on a happy vacation in the countryside outside the city with his wife a meteor falls near their camp and the only remnant technology of a completely dead extraterrestrial community in any other way survives the crash and after learning about this technology side his wife plans to aid common folk in his section of the city with the powers he has been able to gain from it. OK... now you go for it!:)
  7. @Troy nice, thanks for joining in my favorite lines in the poem, did you write it? , are the following For in the spaces between the lines read, Lay unaddressed issues, silently spread. What part of my poem did you enjoy most? You can say none at all:)
  8. After listening to the speech, I made the following poem. Centos or sharing your own poetry is welcome. TITLE: Biden's Pulpit Some will say Biden shouted Some will praise his vitality Some will think it for an opponent Some will hear stroking naysays While me, plus others, heard a plea ... A plea embedded in, a declaring free That one day, the land of genocide, slavery, plus greed Will be a civil being, matching a dream but... The plea has a problem Multimade in said land's past The murder of those who led Without need of a plea By their neighbors, who saw the usa Eternally, as a land of said three things Not sinful, evil, or any inhumane Where love to son is not to the stranger So the white haired president, pleaded to those he don't need He need those who will act without his plea, who are all in graves ...Now Dear reader, do not think me a peer I merely scribed the truth to what I live in. I know stars and stripes, is said eternally While! I don't hate, fear or work against those Who hope the usa become said being. When descended from enslaved, you can be me ... I will leave to do my own things But, all are warned, to the following beware old slavery or bright dreams And hope you live as the lucky In tomorrows ... the free Author: Richard Murray If you enjoy my poetry consider my poetry collection Poetry or More , it is very affordable https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/poetry-or-more-1 Or my book of centos- centos are poems made from other poems https://www.kobo.com/us/en/ebook/richard-murray-centos-2023
  9. @Dee Miller I will say Zora Neale Hurston is who I am thinking of but like me, her little section of the black populace when she was growing up was a place of positivity for her in a way most black people didn't and don't have in the usa. Poem Title: Zora Take me down to Eatonville Take me right down to Eatonville where the vineyards ripe with currants dressed in plum, cherry, and of course a blushy peach all swing with me brush their bruised skin— drop against the sediment that covers their sweet Take me down to Eatonville Take me right down to Eatonville where the laughter crackles, shrieks roars rude as belches, fine as gratitude thick as contrite where notes grab me by the waist side squeeze my handles and brush my skin against grins set with peppered sweat Take me down to Eatonville Take me right down to Eatonville where the eyes are set apart but roam like unbridled streams, coil like kitchen hair all over because of Song of Solomon 1:5 not because of the fruit Take me down to Eatonville Take me right down to Eatonville where glazed hardwood floors are for lindy hop scuffs— not blackened knees Take me down to Eatonville Take me right down to Eatonville Where I’ll be— But you won’t, Zora Because you’re too busy sharpening your oyster knife In amendment, for me, alot of Black music is poetry with instrumentation so I have to add the following Weed Smoker's Dream by Joe McCoy and Herb Morand Sitting on a million, sitting on it everyday Can't make no money giving your stuff away Why don't you do like, like the millionaires do Put your stuff on the market and make a million too Face of a betting women, she bets on every hand She's a tricking modafunkyou everywhere she lands Why don't you do now, like the millionaires do Put your stuff on the market and make a million too May's a good looking frail, she lives down by the jail On the back though she got hot stuff for sale Why don't you do now, like the millionaires do Put your stuff on the market and make a million too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyjW8FTGxbI Why Don't You Do Right? Joe McCoy You had plenty money in 1922 You let other women make a fool of you Why don't you do right like some other men do? Get outta here and get me some money too You're sittin' down, wonderin' what it's all about If you ain't got no money they gon to put you out Why don't you do right, like some other men do? Get outta here and, get me some money too if you had prepared, twenty years ago You wouldn't be drippin from door to door Why don't you do right, like some other men do? Get outta here and, get me some money too ... I fell for your jargon and I, took you in Now all you got to offer me is a, drink of gin Why don't you do right, like some other men do? Get outta here and get me some money too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oavQY5V0xpg
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  11. @Troy yes, i comprehend but my point is about the publicly traded firm model being the problem. Public traded firms allows for firms absent revenue or savings or even in debt to gain investment or balance their value. But the problem is, staying in the publicly traded form too long forces a firm to act financially foolish. I Wonder Troy, do you know how many firms in the usa went from publicly traded to private in 2023? I don't know but i imagine you know where to look yes, still black owned, still in print. .. still in harlem:) yeah, i don't always get the time, i am working on my craft, but I try to aid the discourse in this website:) @ProfD well, the two problems are not easy challenges. everything works conceptually. but the reality is the usa's fiscal capitalistic environment is a slaver, it looks to use , to abuse, to enslave, to prey. Look at Crypto's fallout, all the cheats and scams all over the place. Look at the scams being aided by modern computing power [usually called AI] giving people money to use as they wish with these financial practices... is devastating. Now some have suggested as a federal program in the usa to limit the uses but many lobbyist serving varied financial actors will be outside the door of elected officials with the money to make sure their clients prodcuts are not banned so, the problem isn't little. People elected in the usa are not happy to do for the people, they are all looking, correctly in my view, for financial reward. They will accept the money to gain their loving ones generational wealth. And this doesn't include the international complexity of universal basic income. And it is the international aspect that can lead to a path of war.
  12. Your thoughts to black literature in magazines that never became books? any thoughts The video below is where the still is from?
  13. The Color Purple 2023 0:43 interesting start point 4:47 well did it make money , it has been around for 13 years 8:50 the old spide brother brother:) that is like the mayhem guy in john wick 11:32 Danny glover is still mr mister:) 12:04 palatable is the right word zenobia 14:04 good point, lou gossett wasn't allowed to be meaner than danny glover 17:48 didi it being a musical lead to some miscastings or some time taken away from some characters? 19:56 her, meaning taraji p henson, issue was the money, the producers 20:48 steven speilberg was part of the production, has the color purple joined immitation of life as one of those films whose remakes are schism amongs fans 23:19 you are a producer/money, director, thespian, someone says, Color Purple as a superhero film, what do you say? 25:40 couldn't find the young lady, wish her the best though
  14. comments to American Fiction 3:32 white people in modernity don't run to read ulysses from joyce or war and peace from tolstoy. The books monk was writing were boring. The modern audience rightly or wrongly, like an overabundence of drama 8:10 good point 10:36 sterling k brown, from pastor to plastic 16:35 this film wasn't the kind of film that can get a wide release, black panther is the kind. At the following place https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/american-fiction-movie-ending-explained they ask the following Was he trying to imply that as creatives, no matter our best intentions or moral code, we are all slaves to capitalism, and that our work will inevitably bend the knee to the almighty dollar? Did he mean to stress that within a white supremacist media context, Blackness will always be commodified for the masses? Was Jefferson pointing out the hypocrisy of bourgeois Black elite spaces and the futility of intraracial classism? Is the entire film a metaphor for the insidious nature of anti-Blackness and how we as Black people often perpetuate it without even knowing? It isn't artist's work that bends the knee but artist themselves for the work comes from the imagination of the artists and it is the imagination of the artist that becomes flooded with the desires from the financiers from the needs in another section of the artist mind. And, artists are free to not let those financial concerns manipulate their imagination, and some artists do that. We hear their tales of fiscally impoverished geniuses like a Zora Neale Hurston or Phillip K Dick or Poe or Van Gogh. Well, in a fiscal capitalist media context, all cultural aspects will be commodified . Birth of a Nation is not what the fiscally poor white southerner's journey at the end of the war between the states was. Outside the fact the film lies about the black populace, it isn't a truth teller to the white. The truth is, the leadership in the confederacy was split on the goals and destinations and the side that got to implement miscalculated terribly, so much so that, the south which was the financial breadbasket of the usa is the fiscally poorest region in the usa today and whose black or white populaces at the time of the end of the war between the states have both been harmed long term with the results of that war. I don't know if any group is above judgement, but the urban black financial elite have always existed in the usa, ala solomon northrup and always led their lives with a faith in the system in the usa that is historically misplaced. Financial racism commonly called classism in the usa has always been prophesied by some blacks as the aphenotypical racism that will lead to a betterment. I can't say it is futile as much as, what is the goal? the assumption by many in the usa , not most I think, is that aphenotypical financial racism will lead to aphenotypical activity , but that mentality misses that the purely fiscal nature of fiscal capitalism is not concerned with changing behavior from aphenotypical to phenotypical or from phenotypical to aphenotypical . Does the film transfer the heritage of anti blackness in the usa into a film? Do Black people perpetuate anti blackness ignorantly? The heritage aspect is the only part of any of the questions that I feel doesn't warrant questioning. I will question the second part. Black people have never been ignorant to anti blackness in the usa, never. The problem is, in the embrace of nonviolence which most black people in the mid 1900s to now in the usa exhibit, the power in situations is always with whites, because when someone is violent towards you but you chose to be nonviolent towards them, you have no way to get them to change so sooner or later the violent actor wins, and that is the source of the perpetuation of sameness concerning anti blackness that continues in the usa. Violence isn't evil. but it is a tool, that can be useful. Now to the first part of the last question. Anti blackness in the usa has always been holistic, pervasive, synonomous with slavery. The film displays that slavery as an institution, one human being forcing another human being to act, is quite strong and though it is not as crude as the whip of the past, is definitely active and arguably less dodgeable Now the answer to all the questions is honestly maybe, but I provide my thoughts to the questions themselves.
  15. comments to Rustin 3:17 what? somebody got their tooth removed for a role... oh the method 4:36 would you have used the two characters that were made up? as a writer Nike 6:11 who is your favorite mlk jr impersonator?:) 9:03 and communal banishment, in most communities if people knew it publicly, people will excommunicado you 12:58 going back to the black church's power in those days. No present day group has that influence. 14:29 exactly, it is the publicity of it, not the knowledge 16:26 yes, black women were always the basis for every movement in the black populace in the usa 17:28 still kind of an oppression, zenobia, it is an oppression. Remember, if it wasn't for malcolm, Fannie Lou HAmer would not been able to speak during a gathering in harlem 19:21 they were made by black people so afraid of whites that they couldn't 20:03 i recall in new jersey a quaker community had a black town in new jersey, but quakers aren't not evangelical if i am correct and evangelism tends to get more followers 22:50 the thing about Higher Ground that is cool is it is a private company 24:26 amen Nike, teach it at home and to be honest, that is all populaces, even the white populace. No education system in humanity covers history or culture truly holistically.
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    well i read the article, the argument by tyree is dysfunctional, the book was written in 2001, tyree admits the strategem would had been successful in 2010, so... saying it isn't how the industry operates in 2024 is dysfunctional. This is about a moment in the usa, this is not meant to be how the usa was before or after, but this was a real scenario. I wonder why everett had nothing to say. And the argument from some blacks against "urban lit" is no different than italians against italian mob movies . having people look like you represented in a way you don't like doesn't define you, but doesn't make it unreal. Some black people were and are step and fetchit's this doesn't mean I am or any other black person is one of them. Cord Jefferson's question shows he is either ignorant of black history or in denial about black experiences in the usa. For anyone who reads up to this point, let me say something that it seems isn't common knowledge in the usa. Most black people in the usa have always been unhappy or miserable, always. Yes from the colonial times to now a minority in the black populace in the usa has been happy. But, an overwhelming majoirty 95% to 75% of black people in the usa have been terrorized by whites in the usa or by the system of government in the usa designed or ruled by whites. I don't see how anyone black, non black or other can not accept that simple truth. Yes, obama exist, yes, michelle obama exist, yes oprah and the william sisters and lebron james exists. Ok most black people in the usa are miserable, are in pain, are unhappy, have dealt with trauma and they come from a centuries line of black people who felt worse. Said negativities are not the only things we have to offer to culture and have never been the only things. We made negro spirituals that uplift people today before the usa was founded. we made lues music that is utilized in so many asian animated works to characterize strong thoughtful characters. we made jazz that is considered world music and one of the utmost signs of improvisation. Cord Jefferson suggested black people's stories of pain or suffering or anguish or anger are too large in quantity, are too present. what? We made brer rabbit, which was referred to in positive fantasy star trek to save a bunch of defenseless humanoids from corruptions in and out of the fantasy united nations institution called the federation , with earth itself as its usa .saundra and others in the article's great flaw is speaking of the now. They can't get out of the now in assessing the film. Many black people in the usa  like to say , black folk need to forget the past, but does that mean we are to lie about it, or judge all only in the modern? 

     

     

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    Some urban lit authors see fiction in the Oscar-nominated ‘American Fiction’

    BY HILLEL ITALIE

    Updated 10:41 AM EST, March 5, 2024

     

    NEW YORK (AP) — Omar Tyree, author of such urban lit narratives as “Flyy Girl” and “The Last Street Novel,” recently went to see the Oscar-nominated movie “American Fiction.”

    “I loved the emotions of the family,” Tyree said of the comic drama starring best actor nominee Jeffrey Wright as the struggling author-academic Thelonious “Monk” Ellison, Leslie Uggams as his ailing mother and supporting actor nominee Sterling K. Brown as his troubled and unpredictable brother. “I love seeing how Monk tries to bring the family unit together and just seeing Black people trying to work things out.”

    But when asked about the film’s featured storyline — Monk finds unexpected success when he publishes a crude novel under the assumed identity of ex-con Stagg R. Leigh — Tyree laughed and gave a nod to “creative license.”

    “The whole idea that he’s going to sell a lot of books by keeping it raw, in real life it doesn’t work like that,” he said. “That kind of book would have been stronger in the early 2000s.”

     

    “American Fiction,” nominated for a best picture Academy Award and in four other categories, was adapted from Percival Everett’s “Erasure,” a 2001 novel that came out when a genre alternately called “urban lit,” “urban fiction,” “street lit” or “hip-hop fiction” was peaking, especially among young Black readers. Novels like Sister Souljah’s “The Coldest Winter Ever,” Shannon Holmes’ “B-More Careful” and Teri Woods’ “True to the Game” were selling hundreds of thousands of copies while major publishers, who had initially ignored the genre, were offering large advances in search of the next hit.

    The urban lit genre dates back at least to 1967, and the release of the memoir “Pimp,” written by Robert Maupin, who was in jail when he began writing under the name Iceberg Slim and built a large word-of-mouth following. He inspired another street lit pioneer, Donald Goines, author of the Kenyatta urban crime series and other works from the 1970s that influenced such hip-hop stars as Tupac Shakur, who would famously declare, “Machiavelli was my tutor, Donald Goines my father figure.”

    Urban lit is still around, but no new releases approach the heights of 20 years ago. According to Circana, which tracks around 85% of the print retail market, the genre sold around 380,000 copies in 2023, far less than the total sales for “The Coldest Winter Ever.” Many leading urban lit authors these days are either independently published — among them Black Lavish and Mz. Lady P — or released through Kensington Publishing Corp., which still has cut back over the past decade.

    “At one point, the majority of the books on our list that were written by Black authors would have been categorized as urban or street lit,” says Vida Engstrand, Kensington’s director of communications. Because of changes in the “retail landscape and reader interest,” Kensington now offers a much broader selection, with “very few front list titles that fall squarely in the category of urban lit,” she says.

    Everett, an award-winning author whose novels include “The Trees” and the upcoming “James,” was unavailable for comment, his publisher said.

    Monk is inspired to write his pseudonymous book after looking through a bestseller titled “We’s Lives In Da Ghetto” and reading such sentences as “Momma says I be the ’sponsible one and tell me that I gots to hold thing togever while she at work clean dem white people’s house.” After failing to catch on as a literary author, he is offered a six-figure book deal and seven-figure movie deal for his profanely titled novel.

    Stagg R. Leigh is praised by critics and even wins a prestigious literary prize. But few were calling Teri Woods or Shannon Holmes likely Pulitzer winners. The publishing community debated whether urban lit should be condemned for reinforcing stereotypes about Black life — stereotypes parodied by Everett in his novel — or welcomed for its blunt portraits of crime and poverty and for attracting new audiences.

    “I’ve heard a lot of people within the Black community who have that viewpoint, that urban lit doesn’t reflect all of us,” says author Porscha Sterling. “And while it’s important to show the Black community in multiple ways, I do think it’s important to have a well-rounded view that includes everyone.”

    “In my opinion, it was wrong to characterize these books as different from other Black literature,” says Malaika Adero, an author, agent and executive editor for AUWA, a Macmillan imprint led by Questlove. “We’ve had all kinds of classic books that dealt with the underground economy and the ghetto and weren’t classified as hip-hop lit.”

    Monk’s novel has some parallels to a bestseller from the 1990s, Sapphire’s “Push,” an acclaimed and controversial novel about a pregnant teen from Harlem that begins in broken English, but becomes more traditional as the girl learns to read and write. At the time, Sapphire (a pen name for Ramona Lofton) was a little-known poet who received a large advance and attracted the interest of Hollywood. The book became the Oscar-winning movie “Precious.”

    “American Fiction” director Cord Jefferson, nominated for best adapted screenplay, has said that reading “Erasure” reminded him of conversations he had with friends over the years.

    “Why are we always writing about misery and trauma and violence and pain inflicted on Blacks? Why is this what people expect from us? Why is this the only thing we have to offer to culture?” Jefferson often wondered, he told The Associated Press last fall.

    One urban lit author, Saundra, said she found “American Fiction” funny, but “a tad bit overdramatized,” adding she doubted a novel like the one Monk wrote would be so welcomed now. Sterling, whose novels include the series “Gangland” and “Bad Boys Do It Better,” said she identified with Monk’s frustration at not being understood and recognized, but also said the satire in “American Fiction” left her feeling “misunderstood”

    “I don’t know any people who write like that in the urban lit genre,” she said.

    Author K’Wan Foye, known as K’Wan, says he related well to the movie, even if it was “poking fun” at urban lit. He remembers being encouraged 20 years ago to write “something really ghetto,” what became his popular “Hood Rat” series, and showing up for a meeting at St. Martin’s Press wearing a Biggie Smalls-style suit.

    “They thought it was some kind of persona, the way Stagg R. Leigh is in the movie,” K’Wan said. “And I was like, ‘No, this is who I am.’”

    If “Erasure” had been published now, the protagonist would likely have chosen a different kind of book to parody the commercial market, authors and publishers say. Tyree thinks he would have been writing nonfiction, maybe working on a celebrity confessional like Jada Pinkett Smith’s “Worthy.” Shawanda Williams, who oversees the Black Odyssey imprint of Kensington, cites the 2022 bestseller “The Other Black Girl,” the surreal tale of a Black editorial assistant at a publishing house.

    Saundra, whose novels include “Hustler’s Queen” and “It Ain’t About the Revenge,” says the urban lit market has faded enough that she’s trying a different kind of book. In 2025, Kensington will publish “The Treacherous Wife,” which she calls “domestic suspense.”

    “Times are changing,” she says, “and I think readers are looking for suspense, something everyone can relate to.”

     

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