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  2. @Chevdove now during the march equinox, if you draw two lines from the center of the earth, one to the center of the sun and one to the angle of tilt going northward it will look like an L  or right angle sign

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    Now toward the june solstice, The L or right angle sign  will become an obtuse angle  till the most lean at the june solstice

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    then the obtuse angle will go toward being an L to it is a right angle at the september equinox

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    then from the september equinox the tilt will seem  more acute till the december solstice when it is most acute

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    and then it goes toward a right angle again , going to the march equinox when it is most acute.

    and on and on, remember it doesn't matter which one you start with. 

    After the March Equinox is toward the June Solstice

    After the June Solstice is toward the September Equinox

    After the September Equinox is toward the December Solstice

    After the December Solstice is to the March Equinox

    After the March Equinox is to the June Solstice

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  3. @Chevdove

    I see, in a cycle the position stated first doesn't matter cause it has no start

     

    all four of the following are equivalent

    TOP -> september equinox ->december solstice -> march equinox-> june solstice->back to TOP

    TOP ->june solstice-> september equinox ->december solstice -> march equinox-> back to TOP

    TOP -> march equinox-> june solstice-> september equinox -> december solstice->back to TOP

    TOP ->december solstice -> march equinox-> june solstice-> september equinox -> back to TOP

     

    but 

    use the following

     

    TOP -> march equinox-> june solstice-> september equinox -> december solstice->back to TOP

    so now do you comprehend the cycle? it does not end, after the december solstice is the march equinox and on and on for the life of the earth

    do you comprehend?

  4. @Pioneer1

     

    On 4/6/2025 at 10:55 AM, Pioneer1 said:

    I believe the reasons is....even Caucasians know and understand that an egalitarian society where women share the power is inherently BETTER in the long run...and they preserve those societies as ideal.
    However Sweden and Finland and Norway are very homogeneous and the vast majority of it's citizens are White and so they don't mind allowing their women equal power as long as they know that there are no people (especially men) of color around to pull them away.
    As Sweden and Denmark begin to bring in more immigrants from the Middle East and Africa....it's going to become more Conservative and the sexism and traditionalism will increase as White men seek more control over their women to keep them from African and Arab men.

    right, a truly internally variant multiracial populace is by default harder to find a peaceful balance than one where most share most racial labels

  5. Coming Soon
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    • 13- Moon farthest from earth, at apogee
    • 15- 1865 Abraham Lincoln was murdered
      • Was his death the most potent in terms of how it changed the subtlety of the federal government?
    • 16- Mercury Neptune conjunction
    • 18- moon is closest to the south pole of earth , runs low

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  6. @Chevdove

     

    On 4/6/2025 at 11:33 PM, Chevdove said:

    I regret to tell you that those kind of experiments only confuses me and frustrates my mind more. 

    hmmm well ok

    On 4/6/2025 at 11:33 PM, Chevdove said:

    I absolutely understand and can visualize the earth's tilt causing the four seasons, but that is NOT the same as defining the equinoxes or the solstices. There is a distinction and that is where I am hung up. 

    i see,well the tilt of the earth acts cyclically, to visualize on a line, one end is an extreme tilt, for example december solstice, and the other end is the other extreme, june solstice, at the middle is equinox, when you go from december to june it is the march equinox, from june to december it is the september equinox.

     

     

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  7. @Mel Hopkins thank you, I made the error i tell others not to make. 

    what i meant by "universal equal rights" is a system that provides for global protection for each individual in humanity alongside provisions for welfare. The ancient egalitarianism you speak I know of but the use of technology in negative ways plus the growing complexity of humanity , what i will call the patriarchy, warrants said system to reach an egalitarianism that can exist alongside the modern and future greed. It isn't the only way , but is one way.

     

    yes, christianity as an engineered religion based on a jewish movement has many emphasis that are not from the commonly called ancient world. 

     

    @Pioneer1 haha:)

  8. Coming Soon
    April
    6- mercury appear stationary, retrograde
    10- moon at equatorial plane; moon crossing north to the south of the ecliptic, the path of the sun in the sky;  venus appear stationary in the sky, retrograde
    12- full pink moon

     

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    is tribalism natural?
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  9. @Pioneer1 

     

    On 3/30/2025 at 4:43 PM, Pioneer1 said:

    Yeah but what are the Black folks in Brazil and the rest of Latin America DOING?

    Do they have as much political and social power as us in their society?
    Are they making as much money as us in their society?
    Do they have as much global influence as Black Americans?

    I will answer your questions, but i want to go back and say, you suggested black people, which i consider a global populace, is better off with the usa as the utmost. But my problem is most black people on earth do not live in the usa, so to assume the ascendency of another country wouldn't do better for most black people is unfounded. I am not saying I know the future, I am saying no one does. Now if you would say that the betterment to black people in the usa is conditional as you say based on the usa, then I am in full agreement. But to suggest that black people who are larger in number in multiple places outside the usa will all do worse with a fall of the usa can't be proven. It is assumption.

     

    Now to your questions

     

     

    Yeah but what are the Black folks in Brazil and the rest of Latin America DOING?

    In my opinion the same as the black folk in the usa or north america. most black folk in either region are simply the financial poor in a country dominated by  a people who don't look like them with a black financial aristocracy in government/entertainment that don't lead the larger black populace.

     

    Do they have as much political and social power as us in their society?

    I say yes. You have to comprehend that phenoptyical race has a variance in history in brasil compared to the usa. 


    Are they making as much money as us in their society?

    I think relatively yes, brasil doesn't make as much money as the usa, so I think and the existence of quilombos in brasil as compared to the gullah/geechee and similar folk in the usa is a balance. 


    Do they have as much global influence as Black Americans?

    white brasilians don't have as much global influence as white statians. When I think about regga , capoeira, samba, and so much that has been influenced by black people of brasil . 

     

    Your questions are  about influence but wasn't the question the betterment of black people in humanity and I argue it is possible that most black people in humanity are better off absent the usa ap top.

  10. @Lee and Low Books New Voices april 1st t june 30th

     

    Please pass this along, two and a half months to write+ illustrate a book for children. I ask any of you to go through my public gallery of written work and find anything you think interesting and tell me why 

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  11. @Pioneer1 all humans are tribal by nature, the only question as you so well put it, is how are the lines drawn. 

     

    @ProfD exactly , and I argue from the time of the Royals who were crowned first along the nile river, human populaces have always been complex , where an individuals associations are not simple one to ones

    7 hours ago, ProfD said:

     

    Most tribes are formed the moment a man and woman decide to procreate and become a family.😁😎

    you make a hell of a point, it is religious history but, adam and eve was a tribe of two , i think that is one of the points of the story, that that wife and man is a tribe of two first and foremost:) 

     

    @Mel Hopkins hahaha well done

    9 hours ago, Mel Hopkins said:

    For example, my second cousin is married to a woman whose uncle is Eric Adams, the Mayor of New York. So, through marriage, one of my family/tribe members just escaped federal indictment because one member has ties with Donald.

    protection + procreation both played a historic role in clan membership, I think today some humans don't know or forget that the concept of universal equal rights, is not common and is relatively new in humanity. And is mandatory for individual rights to be expanded universally or to exist. 

    as for procreation or lust, i think what is most interesting is how what is at the federal level in the usa deemed child marriages or adult vioaltion to a child still occur in some states in the usa / or throughout india/ or many other places today, 2025. Aside that, what is legally or culturally deemed incest in the usa, is done so commonly in many places in humanity, including in the usa,  in 2025.  And of course, prostitution happens so commonly so many places. 

    Of the three I really think prostitution shouldn't be illegal anywhere anymore. 

    Thought shall not kill makes sense as a moral law, a rule, cause most humans don't kill. yes in wars armies kill a lot or weapons of war kill, but most human beings don't kill anyone else their entire life, so killing being immoral, against a rule based on human activity, makes sense, but not prostitution, that is way too common in my opinion. 

     

     

  12. @Chevdove 

    15 hours ago, Chevdove said:

    This is one of my favorite passions, understanding how the planets and stars align, but I do not completely understand how the equinox occurs.

    I am challenged when it comes to understanding 'spacial' objects!

    The key to the equinox or the solstice is the tilt of the earth. look at the dates in yellow. notice that in each image the side of the earth is similar but the angle of light is different. I have an experiment for you.

    Get a spinning top and a flashlight. 

    Then at night outside, where it is dark, spin the top and place the flashlight where it spins and keep the flashlight still. 

    At first the spinning top will be perpindicular but as it losses energy, it will tilt in various ways and that tilting is what the earth always does and you will see how the light of the flashlight off of the top changes based on the tilt. 

    The key to the earth unlike the spin top is that the earth because of the sun's gravity, it's size,  and the environment of space doesn't have a friction to slow it down like the spin top. 

    Any more questions you can ask me 

     

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    the following graphic explains the perihelion and aphelion, in terms of distance to the sun

     

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    @umbrarchist I want to know where are they now:) do their children or grandchildren know?:) 

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    • 30- Moon is the closest to Earth , perigee

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  14. @Pioneer1 

    1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

    Well, you, me, and the rest of the Black tribes of the U.S. certainly won't benefit by CHINA or RUSSIA taking over the planet...lol.
    I can tell you that much.

    i comprehend your position or your point , but it has one fatal flaw, the future is never really known, and remember one little thing, you speak of the usa as you live in it, but the usa has fewer black people in it than brasil, the usa has far fewer black people than in south america or africa or asia. 

    maybe black people in africa/asia/south america will be better off if the usa is defeated by russia/china... I don't know to be honest, but I can't say I am sure either way 

  15. @ProfD so the kalo in india, the habshi in india who are black, while asian, are anti black? 

    I know some of them, from the ones i know i don't think so. Now by Black if you mean anti African well ok I know some who are plus some who are not.  if you mean by anti black , anti Black DOSer ok.I know some who are while some who are not. 

    and I will say that most populaces in asia are very tribal Profd. the han chinese are disliked by many other cultural races in china. In Nippon, the former japanese princess had to give up her title because she married a commoner , he isn't okinawan or Ainu, he isn't fiscally poor, he is merely a commoner by bloodline so...

    Asians tend to be very tribal, again, gandhi couldn't get rid of the caste in india for a reason. Humans still view other humans have poisonous shadows in india. 

    I think some people in the usa don't comprehend, when people from outside the usa come into the usa, the usa doesn't demand they change their heritage or culture. All the usa ask is you follow the law, but the modern law of the usa isn't a cultural thing, it is very much about individual freedom or communal allowance. 

    so, the peoples of color, fred hampton rainbow nation, frederick douglass composite nation is more a Black DOS heritage in the usa than other people in the usa. 

  16. @Pioneer1 

    On 3/26/2025 at 6:43 PM, Pioneer1 said:

    As an old Negro would say:    Now....now...wait a minute now....now HOLD ON now...lol

     

    I believe I know what a "Zambo" is.
    Half African and half Native American.


    But what is an "Alvino"?
    Sounds too much like "Albino".

    Is Alvino some sort of out dated racial concoction?

     

    well, yes, zambo is half black african or negro /half first people or indios or native american

     

    Alvino is euqivalent to octaroon

    basically a mulatto, half white european half black african , has a child with a white european it is a quadroon , a 4th not white european, the comparative term i forget. 

    But when the quadroon has a child with a white european is it an octaroon , an eigth not white european or an alvino. 

    Alvino + albino have a similar root meaning white. The idea with alvino is this is some who has achieved through lineage , a true white label. 

    remember the modern american continent in the past was completely cut up in english/french/spanish/portuguese/dutch parts and that was it, those five. But, four of them: french/spanish/portuguese/dutch barely brought white european women, so all four of them started a culture of mixed race children as landowners, which creates the modern heritage all of those sectors share. But the english brought many white european women, so in the english part of the white european imperial cut up of modernly called American Continent, mixed babies were treated negatively, ala the one drop rule, whereas in haiti even before desallines/all through spanish or portuguese domains/in dutch new amsterdam  for example, white black babies were land owners because those white european men didn't bring their local woman so ... 

     

    Outdated is a dangerous term... is it common? no, is it in the streets of rio or tinochtichtlan or caracas ? no but in certain communities, old wealth in latin america, including haiti, people will ask who are you, and not just are you a good person or have money, what is your lineage. The point of the castas is race by lineage. Is it opposite of the one drop rule heritage in the usa specifically? yes , very much so. You used the word concoction, a thing cooked up. To this day in europe, people in certain communities want to know lineage as far back. That sort of detailing can be tiresome especially up against the usa individualism, but I argue it is better for a set of populaces: indigenous of all phenotype/white european/black african that aren't friends or allies or equals to have a detailed lineage concern over a one drop rule which led to a ton of passing. but the majority in the usa and the larger humanity it governs have adopted the individualism mantra of the usa, which on the positive level, rejects the need for lineage knowing or detailed background, focusing on the now of an individual.

     

     

    @Troy

    On 3/26/2025 at 10:20 PM, Troy said:

    That is an oversimplification, implying that there is a genetic test for race. There is not one. I’m sure there are so-called white people who have more in common with you genetically than I do. 
     

    Sure, we mapped the Genome, but you can’t look at anyone’s jeans and determine exactly what they’re gonna look like some jeans have characteristics that I’ve never expressed there’s environment in a whole wide variety of factors that go into how we look…

    It is interesting that you suggest simplification when I didn't suggest anything was simple, I simply definition. The human genome is a very large compound, one of the largest chemicals out there. and that doesn't include how it relates to its cousin rna, but here is the problem. 

    You accept the mapping of dna + rna is true. and it is proven that people who are born with uncommon traits [albinism/melanism/fewer toes or fingers/various brain qualities] usually have changes in that sequence, the health of the mother or womb is the other factor, that is environmental. 

    But it is fact that a baby born with certain uncommon dna qualities with have changes in their appearance, and skin color, is appearance. 

    But no one... in this multilog is denying none of said folk are human. 

    The genetic knowledge seekers know the exact genes for hair or eye color. That is phenotype. 

    But I comprehend your position, it comes from the frederick douglass heritage, you accept the existence of the human race, plus you accept the sub race of gender, both are proven through gene sequence, as humans has differences from their dna sequence in length or placement/composition to  non humans,  while the genetic sequence in humans has known markers for male/female/hermaphrodite , but you oppose, as frederick douglass that skin color or more complex phenotypical classifications can be determined through the gene sequence explicitly. Yes all elements of living organisms can change to environment, but I am 100% a baby with milk pinkish skin side a baby with dark chocolate skin have either direct genetic markers or have a specific arrangement of genetic markers that can be tested to be for all similar babies. 

    I don't think what i just said is simple, just the truth.

     

    On 3/26/2025 at 10:20 PM, Troy said:

    Sure lineage can be traced through DNA but again this has nothing to do with race because race has no basis in genetics.

     ahhh now I see, I have to always remember when I speak with you, you look at race in a very other way than I do. 

    And thus we shouldn't communicate on this issue, because we are not talking about the same thing. 

    When I say race i mean any form of classification or ordering. You define race very specifically compared to me, so.. on that note, it nulifies any position. 

    You said before I was simple, but I am not being simple, I am being different. Your definition and mine aren't the same so it is automatic rejection of terms of definitions. Which isn't a problem but from a  multilog perspective is dysfunction, it just leads to either of us naysaying each other.

    On 3/26/2025 at 10:20 PM, Troy said:

    I’m not sure that’s true. It’s counterintuitive, Did you just conjure that up or have you studied the subjects sufficiently to make that statement.

    the albino, at least specifically skin color is not eye color, or shapes and fingers or similar. I admit, I do compose fastidiously at times, especially when I find myself repeating and I find this topic of race is a constant repeat of statements by all of us , over and over, which frustrates me. cause  the reality is, when a group of people don't share the same definition for the basic elements of an issue then it is dysfunctional to talk on it. 

    You and I and various other members of this online community don't share the same definition of race so any multilog on details of race between us is what exactly? It is inevitable opposition. And we are usually positive in tone in this forum but the point of these discussions is dead. 

    If people talk about a murder case but they don't share the same definition of murder, then... 

    On 3/26/2025 at 10:20 PM, Troy said:

    show me anything from a reputable source that supports that statement. Does ancestry or 23 and me provide your “race” in their DNA test?

    this goes back to my point online all the time, you ask for a reputable source, but didn't define a reputable source. Again, your statement suggest that you or i share the definition of reputable source or define two things similarly as a reputable source. you tell me the sources that you find reputable. this is why I am so verbose in here, when I say how i think i go into the definitions of my words. I define black, i define african i define this or that in my post for that exact reason so when a person reads they comprehend exactly what I think a certain thing is.

    so to answer your question. I can't. I have no way to prove in any way. The reason being cause I have no idea what you think is judged correctly. and I am not assuming what I think is reputable is the same to your own. 

    On 3/26/2025 at 10:20 PM, Troy said:

    Here too, you make my point if it’s all based on genetics how can there be two different definitions of race based on the geography?

    Because race to me has infinite definitions . I have said many times in here, race is any form of classification.  I repeatedly say in here, race based on phenotype, religion, gender, age, language, geography , genetics, ancestry or other. I didn't say all races are based on genetics. Christian is a race, it isn't based on genetics. But religious race is real. Provable for me through adherence to a religions rules. gender race is real, provable for me through genetics.  Remember, the whole point of the trans community is that they say gender is not provable through genetics. they say it is proven through the soul of the individual. so again, race has infinite definitions but is always real. It is a natural thing all lifeforms use and can be used negatively or positively. 

    And I don't have a problem with that truth. 

     

    @ProfD

    On 3/27/2025 at 12:20 AM, ProfD said:

    Regardless, many Chinese people are just as if not more anti-Black than white folks.😎

    One thing I tend to say white asian in here, the term black is pehnotypical, but chinese is geographic. Chinese come in all sorts of phenotypes.  

    White or Black are phenotypical designations or races. 

    It is like when people say Blacks and JEws, these are two different racial types. Jew is a religious racial type, Black is phenotypical, they are not the same. 

    a Black Jew looks like me, has a similar phenotype and "black jews" is a racial category with subraces: falashas from ethiopia/ the beta israelites who yell on corners on sunday/the late 1800s early 1900s black zionist jews, similar to the black muslims of the same period that became the nation of islam. 

    my point being, be careful when using racial terms that don't have the same basis. 

    When black DOSers, notice the use, not all descended of enslaved people are black... when Black DOSers say our enslaved forebears were american i say yes, but they weren't statian, a term i use representing the usa. Remember before the war between the states, most whites in the usa used the nomenclature from the state they were in, which is appropriate. New Yorker /Californian/Virginian/ et cetera . America is from canada to argentina. This is why I Call myself for example 

    Black male stateless heterosexual nationalist - which equates to five races: phenotypical/gender/citizenry/fornicative/governance

    but to your point specifcially, most white asians in china/india or elsewhere don't treat black asians positively, so why other black people in the usa?

     

    @Pioneer1

    On 3/27/2025 at 8:33 PM, Pioneer1 said:

    They actually shouldn't fall under ANY race, as they are race unto themselves.  A combination of 2 separate races.

    Just like Purple is a color unto itself, a combination of 2 separate colors.

    that is a latin american heritage element, in anglo america , english speaking american continent, one drop rule is embedded in phenotypical labeling.  I comprehend your pint but it isn't in the heritage in the usa. Now maybe with the growth of latin americans into the usa and the mixing of peoples, we are seeing the rise of that third option, the word brown i believe is used for the non white while also non black in the usa more and more. So jumping outside of things that should or shouldn't be which i don't think apply with race, the culture of modern usa has created a brown classification that opposes the black/white/indian trichotomy in the past with Black/Brown/White/Native American, I will argue that depending on how things go, Brown may become dominant over white or black 

  17. @Troy

    10 hours ago, Troy said:

    I think understanding that we are all one race Might be a step in the right direction of having a more harmonious world 

    I think all humans know humanity is one species right but even in that context, their are midgets, people with cerebral palsy, people born a certain way, certains ways are races. Genetic lineage is race, your name is troy johnson, johnson ia a clan name but a clan is a race, their re many johnson clans, based on genetic lineage, easily proven through dna test, those clans are races within the human race. 

    And even with phenotype, let's be blunt, phenotype, appearance has genetic markers. 

    If someone ask to prove they are in your bloodline troy? the dna sequence will expose if they have relation to you

    If someone ask to prove they are black like you? the dna sequence will expose their phenotype, even if they are albino, because the dna sequence for your skin color, eye shape, nose,  will still be in theirs, even if albino.

    If someone ask to prove their african lineage like you? the dna sequence will expose their geographic genetic ancestry. 

    Some forms of race are provable today through dna, but they didn't need proof. 

    All forms of race are based on something and where anyone fits with said something determines if they are a member of said race or not. 

    In latin america, they had the castas which made terms like negro, alvino or zambo based on the lineage. 

    but in anglo america they had the one drop rule which made black based on the lineage. 

    negro means black but in the context of latin america or anglo america it is two difference racial definitions. In the casta having a negro ancestor doesn't mean you are automatically negro. In the one drop having a white ancestor aside a black ancestor doesn't mean you are a particular race not white or black. 

     

  18. @umbrarchist I have heard white people call europe a subcontinent

     

    @Pioneer1 

    first you said this

    19 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

    Although Arabs are often counted as White, many of them are mixed and actually African/Black.

    second this

    18 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

    Sometimes I think there should be properly educated and TRAINED experts working for the government who can identify the race of individuals for statistic and census purposes instead of allowing people to do it themselves.

    third this

    2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

    Across the nation from Maine to California they all will use the same gender and racial descriptions and won't give a damn what the suspect "identifies" as.

    Whether or not people agree on race, ethnicity, sex, and gender...clearly most government agencies have already made up their minds as to the categories most people fit in.

    Ok, first was a racial designation you accept. no problem, race is a natural thing, open to be defined infinite ways, but no way is wrong or right, only adhered to or not. 

    second is an administrative desire , with the unknown factors of properly educated and trained experts which are totally open ended. who determines a proper education or expert training? I realize you have a definition of both but do others share this. and law enforcement in the usa, while they have a racial labeling system , I do not consider educated positively [proper is true, it is for themselves, but clearly negative to those they interact with in the usa] or trained positively [their actions in the field prove their training is negative, expert as in built from the experience of a heritage abusing others absent penalty, yes, very expert in that sense ]  

    third, you refer to the nomenclature of usa law enforcement, which is different from the nomenclature of chinese law enforcement or russian law enforcement.

    Now to defend me or @Troy we were focused on education, and race in education. Which your points to me don't connect to. to be blunt, if you teach a child that race should be as the law enforcement of the usa designates that would be an educational disservice.  I will say this, if I am the leader of a school, I will not allow that for the law enforcement of the usa's racial designations are not only ignorant but have a heritage of false implication which is one of the key things you have to teach children not to do. 

    Making universal assumptions on partially accepted racial views is the primary negative with how humans deal with race. No racial view is universally accepted, nor can be.

    So me nor Troy deny that law enforcement in the usa, which has an ugly history, has a set of racial designations. But to suggest law enforcement in the usa warrant adherence ... I oppose. And I oppose totally accepting the application of said designation onto me as i live in the usa.

    By your reckoning Kunta should had accepted his name was Toby then. Your first name/primary name is a race. 

     

     

    @ProfD race isn't a social construct, you call yourself human, the species of this planet are races, the dolphins/humans/woodpeckers are all species who have within their group variances, woodpeckers comes in many forms, orcas are dolphins and yet orcas look different than the dolphins people love to see swimming merrily in the ocean, in the same way black humans or white humans are humans. Phenotype is a valid racial designation. The problem with phenotype is that it has a long heritage by humans of denying humanity to other humans. Do you know why a male lion kills a baby lion made from another male lion and a female lion? because it isn't the male lions baby. In the same way you have a family name, a race, and humans in clans have killed members of opposing clans. Do you know how a clan of woodpeckers in a tree in the south west who look identical to human eyes, can tell the difference between another woodpecker of another clan from another tree? phenotype, in the same way blacks have killed  fellow humans who appear white while whites have killed fellow humans who appear black. This is what I tried to explain about history books, races/categories/nomenclatures are natural, but they are not rigid things. Races change that is the social aspect that @Troy and others refer but it isn't a construct of humans it is a natural thing in all life. To say it is a social construct is to reduce a natural thing that is in all life,  to a human choice. That is human arrogance. Race is like the constant of integration. If some one says, B^2 , b an unknown value to the second power.  The integral is (B^3)/3+C why , the C is a real value but not determinable. Race is like that, it isn't meant to have a rigid definition like the number 2, everyone knows 2 is 2,  but it is naturally present like the number 2. 

    @Pioneer1 In Amendment, you said

    3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

    Across the nation from Maine to California

    but here is the thing, the president of the united states of america is always referred to as from a state in the usa, do you know why? the usa's best racial classification is federation. Federation is a race of governments, which include brasil or nigeria. The USA isn't a nation state, like Monaco or swaziland. The nation states in the usa are the states, remember each colony in the british empire was treated as an individual entity. New York is a nation. Pennsylvania is a nation. The USA is a federation, my point being, back to history or history books, race requires a detail about affairs that most often, history books made from the  white european populace don't have. But are needed. 

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