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Day 4

1->Regina Brooks [  https://aalbc.com/authors/author.php?author_name=Regina+Brooks ] 

2->Karen Hunter [ https://aalbc.com/authors/author.php?author_name=Karen+Hunter  ]

3->Christopher Jackson

4->Lisa Lucas

5->Jamia Wilson [ https://aalbc.com/authors/author.php?author_name=Jamia+Wilson]

M->Moderator: Yahdon Israel

 

M Question

# Answer

My thoughts

 

M How to help writers publish ?

3 No normal production cycle, manuscript and editing and nine months o processing. Sales meeting, whose the audience, how to make audience visible 

1690 project was six or seven months in production. Intense editorial process

4 information sheet, sales conference people, sitting in a room discussing how to sell the book and they go around

The problem with many artist: musician/writers/illustrators is they ask how to help get published when publishing isn't the problem anymore in modernity, if you live under a government of power. A million online forums exist to publish audio/visual content for free. The question people want is how to lead to profit legally in a sure fire way and said way doesn't exist. You can research till eternity, research your industry till eternity, it will not guarantee a work become financially profitable. 

 

M How many books published? three million in total. Two million self published. One million by major publisher. People don't see the context of failure from success. To get a number 1 is hard.

2 She came in publishing pollyanna. She went to her first sales meeting, and is hyper competitive. Most of the people at the top of the masthead know  nothing about blacks. What most units of any book you sold

3 Three million 

The USA has circa 325 million people in total. one percent is three million.  The black populace in the usa is circa 47 million so one percent is 400,00.  The black populace of New York City is circa 1.7 million. So New York City has circa 4% of the black populace in the usa. So , if a black author, I am thinking of myself,  can get a quarter of the black populace in NYC. That isn't bad. 400,000 at the least is six figures and if your book is double figures we are talking a million. Not bad i say. 

 

M Somebody does a report , publishing is dominated by whites?

4 Nobody listens to me

2 Editors still feel the need to cater to white. you have to get clearance of publisher, so you need green light. But clearance is not on publishers. 

4 You need CEO's that are people of color to make it change. Hundreds came in three years  but none have left. We haven't changed retail , group cons, the bureaucracy of the industry is still mostly filled by whites.  

2 The success is by luck, Harry potter sat in some one's bin. You put money in. You get money back. Austerity, she brought in big names on the cheap. 

4 All skin folks ain't all kin folks. Celebrities of color have not been treated as white celebrities have. They put a lot of white ghost writers on them, not same per diem. But the basic mechanism are getting better. That changes the conversation. 

2 It is more complicated if the whites know charlemagne an d the black book ecosystem. 

1 Many industry elements are not consistent in the industry. How am*zon or Barnes and Nolbe compare to black book sellers. How to change?  Some is data. They d a lot of research and development. But But publishers do a lot of gut but doing more data lately. 

I have always said nothing is stronger than being an owner, in any industry. But the black populace in the usa, who in majority embrace nonviolence, are on a path of non ownership. You can't be an owner when the owner is already your enemy and you choose not to attack them. Working through the system doesn't work. The people who mostly own in the usa, didn't work through a system to become an owner. They murdered another, another being the native american. 

 

M With all acknowledged, what sustains you, keeps you going?

5 I love books. We love our people, we want to create opportunities. I envision my audience for my writers. Who might see themselves changed. I love a riddle of a book that presents challenges.  For "The black period" the details bring her joy. Calling people who have hardships and being able to tell them they are about to get alot of money. 

4 I like a good fight. Winning s possible. She sees many older generations. It is a cycle. We are proof it is a cycle. It isn't overnight work. I say " I am sick of these people"  She sees more people buying books. How many people have bought a book in a week? 

3 When Lisa was at the national book award she changed it from a national white book award. He mentions Yahdon.

2 I don't have Jamia's joy but feels optimistic. There are gatekeepers but if you have it can be published and have an audience. 

1  I am an eat what you kill as an agent. I am not salaried. We can all keep creating and doing new things. It is hard on poets but we will work with people. Audio book over text. More Black press. 

Loved ones offline keep me going physically, but mentally or spiritually, it is that I like to create . 

 

Question and Answer

 

Q Question

# or M  Answer

My thoughts

 

Q What do you do to relax?

1. She fishes, she loves to fish and fly her plane.

Playing pinball lately:) 

 

Q What is the myth or realities of AI publishing?

2 She want people to know as much about AI as possible. 

4 She is doing a book with an AI  writer combination

Modern computer power allows a unprecedented level of mimicry or imitation. And as time goes on computers will gain a stronger imitative ability to all arts. The question is the path to profitability will require imagination. 

 

Q She watches Karen on youtube, what is happening on black owned publishing?

2 Just U Books, she works with

M am*zon can sell cheaper but often we are asked to spend more cause they are black owned. I funnel black authors to independent sellers. Publishers is who we as consumers support, if you say support black and you are looking at your budget and you don't buy black you are talking sideways. We did an event , with an independent book seller. They made no record. No record was made to notify. How you run your bookstore as a business matters. In terms of sustainability we can publish books but if we don't know how to navigate it , it is sending a good signal through a bad device. 

I return to ownership. Black people in the usa are not historically an owning populace... they are an owned populace and the path of integration doesn't have a destination in ownership that blacks in the usa need, desperately.

 

Q You have a sea of black folk interested in literature. Is their a way to send work and not to the slush pile? What about story collectives? 

2 If they want to submit to me, if you say you were in the conference you can send it to her.

I tried but I didn't get or didn't see the reply

 

Q She just published an ebook, and she is overwhelmed . Her book is about vulnerability. And she hasn't received good feedback, and her history in NYC, and how you pitch?

M Publishing was best in 2020 but the two highest titles were back books and biographies.  96% of debut sold less than 500 copies. What people don't comprehend is it is a slow industry. You have to reconceive success. If you look at Toni Morrison's career you may say great but that is a career. Many writers put so much energy in a book that if it doesn't return they are spent. Every engagement or moment is part of the process. 

An artist told me a while back, if you stay in the game long enough money will come. Look at George r Martin, in all earnest. The wealth took so long, he is to old to finish the winds of winter.

 

Q [The questioner asked a question so long I lost track of it] What was the book that was great for you?

2 You need an editor

5 She broke into tears when a black woman, a stranger, recommended her book " mambo sauce" to her

 

At the end of the conference, it affirms what I have said in the past few years. Art has two sides, a creative side commercial. The creative part is free for all to do today, from your inner mind to being published. This means the quantity of published content is larger than ever in all fields. But the commercial now has an issue today. The quantity of oversaturation is so high , all artists need a way to get through it. to be viewed by a larger audience or attached to a larger audience. This is why publishing firms are still needed cause someone has to spend advertising dollars for your work to be seen by a larger audience if unattached, even if you are famous. The second is a group. Find something a group can be a part of,that fits your art. not simple but... 

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@Pioneer1

Of course most black people in the usa or the english colonies that preceded it have a high sense of loyalty or comradery, said people are financiially poor.

Conscious + loyalty + comradery  I see, you think once a black person is in the government system those individual aspects are all that is required.  Shirley chisholm spoke before she died on government in the usa , she disagreed with you. 

 

a false assumption of suggestion. I said what i said. I didn't suggest anything to cosby. If I feel cosby should be sent to prison i will say it. I never said that. My point is cosby or others  is not getting support outside the legal system from the larger black populace for their  own actions. As patti labelle said, speaking on the industry,  if you are good  to people, people are good to you. 

 

this is the usa, ask the native american about living and let living, the usa's first or primal heritage  is the opposite of living and let living. You and I 100% have a dissimilar opinion on the usa. 

 

Ahh a very functional point from you. I will love for an investigative reporter to make a detailed account of hbcu's , schools plus graduates, functional reply to cosby. I am not talking about peoples words, most black people in the usa always say the same old lines, but I am talking about legal actions. I wonder if even character witnesses were offered. All the people you spoke off, can potentially offer a long list of  character witnesses. 

@Pioneer1 

ahh you assumed I suggested. Your assumption is wrong. I didn't suggest anything, i said exactly what I said, no suggestions needed. I will say , someone is blocking pioneer if I think someone is blocking pioneer.  I communicate directly, i don't care for veiled messages. 

 

TO me, in a discussion forum positivity equates to function, in a forum section about culture, race, economy there is no functional need for sweetness or kindness.  there is a black positivity section in this forum . The functional thing there is sweetness or kindness which serves the function to uplift  but not in the culture race economy subforum. the functional element in this subforum is problems and solutions.  What are the problems in the culture, what is grown, the race, the phenotypical populace, or economy, the financial activity? and what are the solutions. You suggest many problems while offer little to no solutions. That is your choice. But the quality of the forum warrants discussions as well. and to that judge your prose dysfunctional. 

 

Now Troy owns this website, not me, just in case you assume i suggest. I never said anyone should do as I say, or you have to stop or change.  I am judging your prose in this forum dysfunctional. That isn't rude, that is an assessment which i think has proof.  

 

As to the larger internet spaces. yes, alot of that goes on, I have been privy to very little of that snitching overall , but i have seen it be devastating to some users. I concur some like getting other users banned or similar, but not because they can snitch as much as the platform allows the snitching to have value. I argue the problem isn't snitching but the platforms who realize that the reacting to users complaints on other users grows a negativity which serves the function of wasted commentary. I will love to know how many posts are made per day by people who argue about getting blockaded on websites. which are great posts for websites because the talking point becomes the website itself. Troy doesn't want a forum, which I am thankful for, that empowers snitching. Snitching is silly, for me, most connections online are to strangers, complete strangers. so, the best thing is to ignore on your own, if you really can't stand someone. 

 

 

you can still get in at the time this topic was posted and she may add down the line

 

 

@Pioneer1

I never said anyone was stopping me or putting an obstacle in my path. why did you suggest i said that?

 

Well, to others who post positively plus supportively I don't ask. You are one of the few people I have asked this online. The one thing you have in common to others I have asked is your style of judgements to other black people. 

@ProfD thank you for providing your solution. 

 

@Pioneer1 Well, the question is, what can force  "Black people in positions of power and authority in the Justice Department  " to do as you say?  From my reading of the law, once in they can act as they want as long as it is legal and in the usa, the umbrella of legality tends to be quite wide

 

"you think he deserved to go to prison while blind and in his old age?" 

well, first, i never said he deserved to~.

second, i have to sadly quote myself , " all of these black men have made other black people unhappy with them for at the least arguable reasons.  ...when one needs help or support you don't have it to those you hurt. " so all I said was these black men made enemies in the black populace in the usa based on their own actions to other black people thus in time of need, they will not get the maximum support from the black populace. Phlicia rashaad supported cosby, some in the black populace spoke ill of her for doing  it. a black female business owner supported r kelly while other black women criminalized her for doing it. But cosby would had more black supporters if his actions weren't so foul to some other black people over the years. 

 

 

same area @Pioneer1

@aka Contrarian in defense, p diddy has been philantrhopic in the black populace in nyc . He has financed many things and he doesn't have rockefeller money. From Cosby to R Kelly to Tavis SMiley to P Diddy  while all of them have black people who don't care for them, some from personal experiences, most in my offline or online who are black have accepted the  inequal adjudication to black male entertainers of money, whether they like them or not. 

 

@Pioneer1  What do you suggest black people do ? March for these black men. I know some have marched. But I will defend the larger village [ from Cosby to kelly, to SMiley to diddy is that a song? The Easy Es:)  anyway ] and say that all of these black men have made other black people unhappy with them for at the least arguable reasons.  Let's be blunt, cosby was wrong to lisa bonet. She did nothing wrong but be a young thespian and he acted like she had killed a kid. Don Cornelius allowed porn star heather hunter to dance on his show until the white people above said no. Heather hunter never disrespected soul train while dancing in it. lisa bonet never disrespected the cosby show while acting in it. soo...when one needs help or support you don't have it to those you hurt. 

@ProfD  thank you as I am a writer, but the question now is what do we black folk do about it:) 

@ProfD

I will also add philosophical, you mentioned many financial tribes in the black populace but also add the philosophical tribes[ black militants still exist in the usa, even if a small percentage of the black populace and white philes exist in all the financial tribes you mentioned ] , the religious tribes [beta israelites for example], the geographic tribes [eritreans for example] which add a tribal complexity when merged to the financial tribes which you correctly listed.

And yes, all black tribes are sitting uncomfortably under white supremacy but as a brother in the conference suggested 

https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/10856-national-black-writers-conference-best-line-up-ever/?do=findComment&comment=66414

and I suggest with such a multivariant set of tribes, some of whom want to be white, white philes, or want to coexist positively to whites absolutely extreme nonvolence, the black populace has always since the end of the war between the states had a hard time galvanizing under white supremacy. Black empowerment they all can galvanize under, but the problem is the goal or destination hasn't been found that satisfies all. 

 

I will adjust your last sentence, from my point of view. 

The system of white supremacy created by whites in the past operates for all white people's benefit regardless of the growing tribal variance of whites in modernity. 

It is not that white people are on code, but the system has a code, and the system which was made by their forebears doesn't require white unity to maintain it. 

@Pioneer1 

I am trying to help grow AALBC. I try to communicate to black businesses in my local community to join on aalbc.  And I have plans with my Black Games Elite group to hopefully bring greater user activity to this website.  

Why? as a nationalist, I like things born from black people and this site is something born from a black person. In the internet environment that is rare. So  there you have it. 

As for offline I choose not to say. But I am very private about my offline life. 

 

Now to your question, you don't advertise it for me, you advertise it for the larger populace. Hoping to find a like mind, or maybe get help.  Yes, critiques or judgements may come from other tribes in the village, but that doesn't matter. 

You can criticize/judge my desire to make AALBC a stronger website in any which way you want. I will discuss it but any negative judgement will not influence my goal. 

 

@Pioneer1 

I don't know, but two questions automatically arrive. 

If you were doing this, then why no mention of it? Even in failure it is more uplifitng to speak of the attempt than to not speak of it at all, especially in a forum of communication.

And, if you are doing it? why no mention of it in this black forum, designed for communication. Don't tell me all the black people who think like you in the usa, you have reached. Don't do that. So in advertiisng your activities, hopefully successful, can only grow the number of likeminded blacks part of your group. yes? 

I don't know and your advertised success wouldn't make me join your tribe, BUT, your activities at the least can inspire all members of the village, regardless of tribe. 

Isn't that worth something ? 

Day 3

SUMMIT KEYNOTE A Conversation with the 2024 National Black Writers Conference Honorees Friday, March 22 6:30 pm - 9:00 pm Honorees

1-> Paul Coates  [ https://aalbc.com/authors/author.php?author_name=W.+Paul+Coates ]  •

Percival Everett [ https://aalbc.com/authors/author.php?author_name=Percival+Everett ]

2->Peniel Joseph [  https://aalbc.com/authors/author.php?author_name=Peniel+E.+Joseph ] •

3->Bernice McFadden [  https://aalbc.com/authors/author.php?author_name=Bernice+L.+McFadden , https://aalbc.com/authors/author.php?author_name=Geneva+Holliday  ] 

M-> Moderator: Gloria J. Browne-Marshall [  https://aalbc.com/authors/author.php?author_name=Gloria+J.+Browne-Marshall ] 

Emcee: Wallace L. Ford, II

 

M Question

# Answer

My thoughts

 

M-> What writers you carry with you?

3-> Alice Walker then Toni Morrison

2-> CLR James Black Jacobins. Gwendolyn Brooks, Sonia Sanchez, James Baldwin. Baldwin's ability to talk about history shaped him.

I carry Zora Neale Hurston with me. The black storytellers or griots or jaliyahs from ancestral times to know that carried the stories of anansi to high john. I carry the lyricists who made the negro spirituals to the pop music at the end of the 1900s. 

 

M-> What inspired you to do obscure?

1->Obscure connects the more well known. Malcolm X, Baldwin, but he followed Richard Wright more. He grew up with Richard Wright. Haki R. Madhubuti. Drusilla Dunjee Houston [ https://aalbc.com/authors/author.php?author_name=Drusilla+Dunjee+Houston] wrote a book in 1926 [[the wonderful ethiopians]]. She was just 26. Her book informed him on what it means to tell your own story. She was a witness to the attack of the black populace of Tulsa by the white populace of Tulsa. He said she said, she was happy she didn't have a son cause on that day she would had sent him to die. Doctor Ben.  Amy Jacques Garvey, it was she who recorded all of Marcus Garvey's stuff . When we read Garvey we are reading her. 

One thing I notice is when you write against audience expectations it doesn't lead to the path of money as a writer. Even if people praise a work, its uncommon setting styles or character definitions tend to push the potent commercial crowd away, for the identities common in the potent commercial space. 

 

M-> You say the first reconstruction was the exodus from the south and the second reconstruction is the 1960s but what was brought back from 1877 to 1960s to now?

2-> He goes against the commonly attributed timeline suggested for reconstruction. Two main factors come in. Dignity , which is god given. He thinks of IDa B Wells as exemplary of this. Citizenship- external form of dignity. From eighteen hundred and fifty four to eighteen hundred and sixty eight was the first reconstruction. From nineteen hundred and thirties to the nineteen hundred and seventies is the second reconstruction. From Barack Obama's presidency to now is the third reconstruction. From first to second to third the duality of dignity side citizenship is battled over or redefined. In the third reconstruction, we all count or no one counts. For him, the locus of Black art is with Lorraine Hansberry.  We are in it together.

For me, Slavery ,the enslavement of Black people by whites took several forms, each legally weaker than the prior, but none less potent or influential than the other, especially on black people. The first form, which was global, was direct white european imperialism, black people no matter where they were indigenous to: africa/asia/america [[as in continental usa from modern day canada to argentina]] were enslaved to whites living in the region of earth they lived in for the most part, barring rare exceptions. Siddi or Negrito in Asia, the city states along the coast of west africa as tributary states aiding in enslavement for arms which kept them protected from larger military entities like the hausa caliphate, who through the islam route enslaved as well. Black indigenous people, meaning indigenous people in the american continent who are phenotypically fitting the label black.  The second form in the usa, mirrored by the creation of governments after the end of direct white european rule in various places outside of europe, is blacks in the USA enslaved to whites in the usa. This form's key point is that governments were started with enslavement of blacks as a pillar of identity. You see this in south africa , australia, India, Brasil. or many others. This pillar was about generational wealth for white people, regardless of european ancestry. This is why you see mestizos or blancos in latin america who from the strictest anglo american view are not white statians, benefit from being white in the usa, no different than other white people.  The third form in the usa I will call the thirteenth amendment. In this form, slavery no longer is completely allowable or legal as in the prior two forms in the usa. In this form, slavery is allowable once incarcerated under the law. So in this form, even though black people were legally enslaveable before at the desire of whites,  the negative manipulation of black homes or populaces becomes the norm as an automatic strategy for the thirteenth amendment simply states that to continue the enslavement of blacks in the usa you have to legally bind the actions, regardless of legal quality. Slavery in the third phase is no longer a natural right for whites to impose on blacks, while slavery can be an aspect of a legally bound condition whites through the government impose on blacks. This is why violence was so expansive. The thirteenth amendment didn't change the heritage of white people, it simply forced white people to change from a culture of public pride as enslavers to the non white which made the black to non black relationship simple into public liars about all abuses to the non white using statistics or laws as the cover, which turned the relationship of black to non black complex. A complex relationship the black populace has never been able to handle internally well.   The fourth form is what I call the 1960s. This form is about deleting enslavement in the federal government of the usa, while allowing states or cities all controlled by whites to expand abuses to black people in states or cities. The third form isn't dead but mutated so that within the federal government alone in the usa, multiphenotypical peaceful coexistence can grow or become . This leads to more black elected officials. A huge growing presence of blacks in the usa military. Which can be deemed by peaceful integrationist as a positive, while in the cities or states, you have the white flight alongside urban plight which was cities supported by states, moving all wealth to where white people displaced themselves while placing black people in financially destitute city environments, void farmland or land ownership capabilities as well as local governments with enough whites to deny black governmental control or dominance, thus maintaining the urban plight. The fifth form is The End of the Old USA empire. The enslavement of blacks to whites went from under the british empire to under the declaration of independence to a province of illegality to planned obsolescence in the federal administrative apparatus to residual functions through the usa's administrations or organizations.  I argue reconstruction, meaning to build again for black DOSers can never happen in the usa cause the rebuilding to an enslaved people requires two things the usa can not give, physical freedom from the usa plus a commonly accepted idea from black people in the usa on what they want their future to be as a group or what they want reconstruction to lead to. 

 

M->To your book Sugar, it deals with an underclass of women, can you speak about that?

3-> She wrote Sugar 25 years ago and she was thinking about her family and wanted to know them more. She sneaked about and listened to their stories as a kid. We carry twelve generations of Deoxy ribo nucleic acid in our body. She wants to make ancestors proud.

 

M->You decide who will be published. What books do you think?

1->He was looking for his wife all night and glad he found her in the crowd. ... He wants to know more about the three reconstructions from Peniel Joseph's book. He wants to know about the periods.  Publishing for him is a way to resist. He doesn't have the luxury of thinking commercially. He has a different approach than Simon and Schuster. The first book he published predated the New Negro in time. He is focused today on black cookbooks which need to be republished. He has the responsibility to decide impact and right now it is obscure cookbooks

From Black newspapers to Black publishers to Black owned websites, Black owned avenues of information emission have always existed. But the problem is they never had the kind of financial support needed to be expansive in the black populace of writers or other artists. 

 

M-> What do you carry from cookbooks?

1->The way black people made good out of things that are no good . His father knew how to cook waste products . He will love to know where his father got that from. How do you build the nutrition when they say you are lower than dirt. 

Like Chitlins, which is the gut of the pig. Many people in modern humanity speak of recycling and yet, the ability to reuse waste is mostly in the Black Statian heritage which is disconnected from the methods or ways implemented by white statian firms who control the plans on recycling. 

 

M->Geneva Holiday is a pseudonym for Bernice McFadden. Why was she created and what does she carry?

3-> It took her ten years to sell her first novel , Sugar. Publishers were saying their was no audience for her work in 1998. She decided she would write a chick flick. From nineteen hundred and ninety nine to two thousand and three or two thousand and four she will write a different type of writing. She didn't want to confuse audience , not all who read Mcfadden love Holiday or vice verse. Holiday carries sexual liberation. 

 

M->The Stokely Carmichael definitive book you wrote?

2-> He met Kwame Toure at college before Toure's cancer. Toure asked him, what are you doing for our people's liberation. In his dissertation he thought to Toure.  He thinks Kwame Toure doesn't get the credit he deserves. After MLK jr + Malcolm , Toure is the leader. Toure lives in Africa and critiques USA imperialism everywhere. HE devoted ten years to write the biography and media turned the biography into the MLK/X show. As a teacher he knows students who know MLK/Malcolm/Ida B Wells /Fannie Lou Hamer but not Stokely. 

Well, I argue this is an internal black statian issue. Stokely showed he had garveyism in him, and was a segregationist. These two elements, leaving non black countries for black countries, or living in a Black country or a Black space in a non Black country was and is against many black adults in the usa in the mid to late nineteen hundred or still today. Many Black people parents or guardians in the usa speak to their children adopting the usa, embracing the usa or the whites in it. Kwame Toure was vocal in not doing that except under beneficial circumstances for black people. 

M-> What do you want your work to carry to readers , want readers to carry forth? 

3-> She didn't know in the Book of Harlan black people were in death camps in germany. She didn't know that and wonder why no one else around her knew. So learn and pass on knowledge. 

2-> The older he gets the more he comprehends Black folk have a lot of empathy. Ida B Wells for example had a deep profound love for Black people. He recalls a press conference where Malcolm was asked , what is his credentials, and Malcolm responds, his sincerity. To often we buy into denigration like the Moynihan report. It happens in churches as well . Good black people become mesmerized. 

Black Lives Matter was by three black women, showed what happened to Trayvon Martin, Sandra Bland, George Floyd , Breonna Taylor. To give dignity and by honoring them we honor ourselves. 

 

M-> Maybe if we talk more about our joy, it may help the young people. Brooks, you chose the black panthers for your skills then you chose The Black Panther Party to place into Howard. What do you want writers/researcher to carry out of the Black Party archive?  

1-> He realized coming out of the Black Panther party, Black folk talk too much. The rhetoric is no critique-able which helped carry that small movement, the black panthers for self defense. But, overall Black people talk too much and do too little otherwise. 

He wants a researcher to come with what Black Classic Press is, a catalog of resistance. Prescence African [[  https://www.presenceafricaine.com/ ]]  eh thought of as drum and spear. Presence African go itself from the Harlem Renaissance. Black Classic Press has documented that resistance. He listened to earlier speakers and no one used the term white supremacy. Stop talking about book bans, it is a system of white supremacy. Black people are attacked all over the world. In Black Classic Press it is only the Black presence in the USA but everywhere on Earth is a black presence and that global or holistic approach is the best way to battle white supremacy. 

Being nonviolent in a populace of people who want to be violent, have every reason to be violent, while guided by a more powerful populace beyond or a part of a populace within to be nonviolent tends to lead to a very talkative nature. Speaking against tends to become more potent or influential while other non violent actions repeatedly yield negative results. I will never forget a black woman who owns a house in texas, that her bloodline has owned since a time period nearest the end of the war between the states , telling how her great grand mother as head of her clan told two grand cousins who sought violent actions against whites to go to chicago. Now, people may say this saved their lives. But it also taught lessons and made problems. Two black people who wanted to use violence against non blacks who are attacking the home of their clan, are not being supported by their clan but told they have to leave to a white city devoid of black potency. What should the cousins think? Should they want to be active? why? They wanted to be active in texas and just to ensure stay alive were taken from a better place of black empowerment to a worse place of black empowerment by their own clan. I think Black people in the USA , especially DOSers make too little of what the path of nonviolence does to black people who are engaged. 

 

Question and Answer session 

Q->Question

# or M->Answer

My Thoughts

 

Q->Malcolm X was asked about what he thought about the noble peace prize, what was his answer?

2->Malcolm X said if he was the general of an army he would not accept a peace prize in a time of war. But he was asked the question alot, and asked it variantly. 

Malcolm always comprehended that being nonviolent living aside those who are violent to you is a dysfunction on the part of the nonviolent. Cause the violent can attack the nonviolent naturally. While the nonviolent can be abused naturally. PEace isn't always a positive. 

 

Q-> At his children's school they don't have a library but a tech center. How can we carry this knowledge to a generation that may not be reading it, how to build a bridge that can keep ?

3-> Everything begins at home. If I am reading a book the child will. You can't depend on outside influencers to guide what we want

M->We don't need a license. We have to take young people to the library. We can do things going back to midnight schools post war between the states and why would we expect schools run by the government in the usa to do that.

3-> He learned as a parent , that time or ability to not rely on school systems is a luxury. 

M->  One of her books is banned in florida and sometimes you have to go online to get some resources

2-> We introduce them to literature where they are at. He shows his students videos. What we do wrong sometimes is criticize young people for their way so the comparison is unfair between generations. This is not 1923. We have to meet them where their at. 

The home is correct but it must be said, over one hundred and fifty years since the end of the war between the states, it is telling that the Black  populace in the usa doesn't have in any city or town in the entire usa a publicly funded organization to maintain black heritage/history/culture absent  in that city robustly enough to demand all embrace it at some level who live in said city. 

 

Q->  How do you get out of Weeds of research ? What about a process?

3-> I probably shouldn't answer. She hears the challenge all the time. She doesn't struggle. The characters make it form.

2-> I struggled and I continue to struggle. In the last few years, he has been in the groove of writing every day . Chester himes said: "fighters fight and writers write". He stopped writing when he felt inspired. He learned from Amiri Baraka. Baraka is one of the most important artist that lived. Baraka said Max Roach said: "you have to put in the time". The great artist comprehend it is a labor, not a ditch digging but it is a labor. he teach students we are all a writer. You narrate your life every single day. The only thing preventing unleashing their literature is themselves. You are all brilliant writers as a memoirist and it is your story. So you need to think about the labor. It doesn't mean abandon your family, but if you do i t everyday you will have a manuscript after three hundred and sixty five days , and then you revise it. That is writing. 

 

Q-> I read the Sugar series. You go into graphic detail about abuse of black women. How did you tend to yourself writing that and what can I tell students who think it is trauma porn.

3-> When she has to reread she feel the emotion but when creating she doesn't . She inherited it from her mother. She regrets the term trauma porn is used. Slavery was not manufactured. Many young black people see the enslaved as slaves and that has to change. Many black people call our forebears slaves when they were enslaved. Free people whose freedom was taken from them. 

M-> I am doing a book, a history of activism, due in a week. She tells students if it becomes to much, walk around the block, watch something silly. She can compartmentalize. Remember, we are not being harmed, separate from this and gain from the courage of those survivors. Give the heroic experience from those who survived the respect it deserves. So have researchers not put themselves in peoples shoes but put their story and the responsibility of telling their story because the people they are writing made it where the modern can be. 

This goes back to one of the negative results of the nonviolent path the black populace in the usa has brewed for over one hundred and fifty years. When Black peoples homes generation after generation speak ill to violence, speak ill to anger, speak none to enslavement, speak none to white abuse, generation after generation supposedly to spare black children the deadly truth to their blood relationship to the country they live in, you allow for the growth of an anti violent culture, which is against black people themselves bringing up the truth, cause the truth is not mostly positive or pretty for black people in the usa. It may be unfortunate, but that is the truth. 

 

Q->  White liberals seem to eradicate the militant aspect of some leaders?

1-> The history isn't attacked because of militancy but a counter narrative against one whites have made. unless you tell your story the way whites want, your story is attacked, unless you tell it their way. It is not coincidental that wherever you see black people you see a white narrative, it has nothing to do with the variation of black people or how radical or not a black person is. We have to comprehend we are under assault from those who want to enslave all who are not them. A system of white supremacy, no matter what you, non white, are talking about. I don't know if Blacks, or nonwhites, or anyone we can unify around opposing the system of white supremacy. And, today white supremacy isn't the Klan coming down the road. 

2-> When you tell stories of Ida B Wells or Stokely or other Black leaders  people would delete elements from them. Malcolm was talking about Congo in the 1950s and 1960s. Pedagogical or university organizations would save what Malcolm said but would cut out Congo. Ida B Wells plsu Malcolm X remind us of this. Students ask me, what did Malcolm accomplish. They comprehend MLK jr and I answer, MAlcolm turned negroes into blacks. Toni Morrison  was a champion of this. When Toni Morrison replied to Charlie Rose who asked , where are the white people, and she replied, it isn't about you. 

I concur the larger issue is the non black oppressing the black. The complication is that modernity was reached with the less simple relationship of over one hundred and fifty years ago of non black enslaver, black enslaved. So you have interminglings of black side non black that are internally complicated and flexible enough to serve various actions. 

 

Q-> How to bridge generations?

3-> Have conversations with elders

2-> Share stories. Young people need to attack the redemption version of the usa and support the multiracial. Oral histories are more important than written histories. Maga got an oral story on January 6th , and emit that story through voting or violence. We must share our oral history with elders. Financial literacy , equitability.  Black wealthy haven't helped the community  back enough but doing that is not enough. Black people in the 1860s could had been president. Black people in the past could had been president. 

M-> A lot of young black people today have white friends. But that white friend don't have to like any other black people. The Tom Test . Do you pass it? Ten or fifteen years go before the black youth with white friends realize white powers negative affect in their lives , wasting years. 

I do think specificity may help also. Find the black people young to old who are similar minded. 

 

@Pioneer1 well then, find your tribe in the village offline . They exist. I know it. And then , do something together, positive plus fulfilling that is a nonverbal action.

If you are willing find black people online who are similar minded. they exist. I know it. And do something online that is positive, that will make you smile other than critiquing. 

Someone once said all the communities in new york city change , and thinking on nyc, they are right, even white communities in nyc are unrecognizable from how they were. No community in nyc stays the same. IT is a false myth that only the black community goes through changes, all communities in nyc do. 

 

from carl manley

In 1996, Gordon Parks photographed survivors who were still alive showing where they were in 1958 for A Great Day In Harlem. (Art Kane)
Only 2 survive today: Benny Golson and Sonny Rollins.
Note: Sonny Rollins is missing in the 1996 photo. He was standing behind Marian McPartland in 1958 but not in 1996.
Marian is in the red dress.

 

 

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What I never hear from various people, black or non black,  is nixon was pardoned. USA history shows the president is immune. I know alot of blacks in the usa, I am not certain most,  like the concept of individual equality . Maybe want it implemented. But the usa has a heritage of inequality, not equality.  I think the  frederick douglass folk in the black populace  have always believed the usa can become the federation of star trek. The problem is the casualties in the black populace in the usa lalong this journey..... Thank the sister for  saying the ship hit the bridge because media keep saying the bridge collapsed like the bridge moved to the container ship. But the container ship companies spend a lot of money to make sure no media mentions or governmental focus toward them. The focus of the engineers on the bridge when the bridge was collided into is odd. the brooklyn bridge would collapse if it was hit by a container ship. .... And she is right to DEI , but she misses that some  black people  since the end of the war between the states have publicly stood against any legislation that aids black people in the usa. It isn't new, post war between the states,  that some black people support maintaining white advantages in the usa from the colonial period. This is from a view that the usa is legally "perfect' while the business owning environment in the usa is where black people can thrive and empower. But the problem with that is the role of government in supporting white wealth or power.  ... yes, the brother's point is what i have said, some like him, want a usa where the stranger is respected, which isn't what the white populace in the usa historically never had to do while the black populace was forced to do. ... He makes a point about self preservation which is what the black populace in the usa see with black elected officials, black workers in the government, black entertainers. When the door was opened to the non white male, the non white males who financially succeeded are fearful of losing what they have.... the black men's point about legal support to white empowerment aside the lack of legal support to black empowerment in the usa is about the legacy of white support providing a leg up to black non violent integrationists from the war between the states to now, which led to the groups in the black populace who wanted said power, ala the exodusters, ala the garveyites, ala the black militants absent the same white support as black groups not or leastly supported by whites in the usa ... see he made a point. I had black teachers my entire scholastic life in the home as well as outside in public school. The first time I didn't have 90% plus black teachers was in college. ... he really should had mentioned jean jacques dessalines. Well, it was after the henri christophe period when haiti succumbed to white pressure and the future reality... Great ode to shirley chisholm + Barbara lee.
 

@Pioneer1 

do you know other black people who think like you? I notice you complain alot about other black people but never seem to mention what you side the black people who think like you did or are doing ? are you alone? is anyone else black thinking like you  ? 

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@Steinsman yes I have.. I can't say I have anything I am expecting highly, but as a writer, i give all movies a chance. 

Anything you are expecting to see? 

 

@aka Contrarian it doesn't matter how late, glad your here.

a chocolate fred astaire, nice language

not just difficult, nat king cole found it impossible to attract sponsors but not viewers , funny how today, viewers dictate sponsors

so you like bebop or st louis versions of jazz, more than big band, ragtime, experimental, smooth or other versions of jazz.

you propose a question i don't know the answer to. 

Is the percentage of black thespians in media: film/tv/music/stage combined greater than the percentage of black people in the usa? I don't know. The statistical answer to the question you posed  lay in said questions answer.  I remember years back someone white said no one in the usa, including white christians has better representation than white jews. and  I thought about it. Considering white jews represent a very very small fraction of the population in the usa, their representation in media is way above their percentage. So it is possible for Black people to have a greater percentage of media representation than the populace. 

Well, most people in media follow scripts in the usa in general. I argue modern media in the usa has become inflexible to those who do not. 

You shouldn't feel guilty at all. At least in my opinion. The black populace in the usa ha s multiple traditions, concerning black relationship to the usa or the whites in it. Nat Turner/Frederick Douglass/WEB Dubois when younger/Booker T Wahsington/ The Exodusters/Garvey all lived at the same time. Each had a different relationship to whites. Turner felt whites should be killed/Douglass embraced as fellow citizens\Dubois an anchor for a minority of wealthy blacks to lead the majority of blacks/Washington an aid for blackpeopele to improve their segregated side of the street/Exodusters as rivals and only business partners for black growth in black towns or cities/Garvey as people whose presence black people should never live around. 

You said you feel guilty but no reason exists for that. I think you are in the spirit of frederidk douglass. The problem is our village in the usa or beyond hasn't accepted how to functionalize paths that don't work together. Douglass would love BArack obama. He is the embodiment of douglass dream. A phenotypically mixed heritage person, married to a DOSer , embraced by the DOS tribe int eh village while coming from the continent on on eside or the white statian on the other. Composite America speech is about what obama embodies. 

Does this mean I am in the spirit of Douglass, no I am not. But I comprehend that such path isn't wrong, jsut isn't mine. We black people have a hard time accepting that. 

And to be fair, Douglass like WEB Dubois greatest negativity in their lives was neither was able to accept other black ways. 

Douglass worked so hard to keep black people in the underground railroad from going to canada. SPoke against the exodusters and it was selfish of him. He wanted to prove the black populace could grow and thrive about whites in big northern cities. The ways of the black freedman or garvey leaving the usa or developing all black towns are both clearly segregatory and was against his firm integrationist beliefs, but that was selfish.

Dubois never should had spoken against Garvey, again, it was selfish. Dubois hated the idea of leaving the usa for a black country. Not cause he hated black people but he liked the integrated environment. 

And like Douglass or Dubois you growing up and even now like it too, and nothing is wrong with that. As I have said to black militants or my fellow garveyites. If you want to kill all the whites like nat turner go ahead. the black populace in the usa has a long tradition of revenge against whites. If you want to leave the usa for a black country somewhere, go ahead. I know black people offline, who have left the usa and live in black countries happy. It can happen. Nothing is easy but it can happen. but, If you want the usa to be a multiphenoyptical country with individual rights for all spurred on nonviolently, go ahead. That is what MLK jr did post Douglass or dubois. That is what obama did post mlk jr. and when you see the black people integrating in the usa to whites in various levels, it is that way. You have lived your life your way, Contrarian:) i am happy for you. Feel pride not guilt in your way, and the tribe in the village you are apart of that is in my view stronger than most others. While also, smile for the other tribes, even if they are fleeting of member or faulty in structure, wish them tell. Be happy for them. 

 

Your not crazy. At least not to me. And as long as there is life there is hope. You can speak your mind in my post any time. I am not into name calling. And I believe in positive sharing. I hope you had pleasant dreams

oh thank you @Troy I wanted day 3 and 4 typed up by now, but I am racing against the clock for a contest. but by this end of week i hope ot have all four days in for reading leisure:)  thanks for the link. I will add it to my early dos literature group.

You look like you can be in the whispers back then:) cool

 

 

I didn't realize lawrence fishburne was a member of the whispers:)

 

 

@Troy I made the one in the black excellence forum after your comment

 

 

 

MY THOUGHTS

1:37 why did Zenobia hate it! I want to know the why. Did Zenobia like "the harder they fall" or "concrete cowboy" ? Does Zenobia like any cowboy films in general.

4:01 yes, the cowboys were originally the person near the cow who guides them.

5:06 hmm good point, a less talked about part of black history in the usa, that black people don't tend to talk about alot. I wonder why do you think?

6:15 no, he got in a fight with the whites at the town and was to be executed/imprisoned or he can conscript. He conscripted but tried to leave three times ,, attacked a superior officer and that brought him to cuba in the military. He was a lieutenant.

9:31 I love how you did the voice Nike of the short guy.

9:57 Bless you Nike, futuristic cowboy:) who would Zenobia like to see as the director? the same director?

10:53 this movie plays into the western myth style. ahhh Zenobia hasn't even seen it.

11:48 she wants Posse with an all female cast. Zenobia:) this is meant to be a western myth film.

12:39 Gang of roses is the film with lil kim

13:01 the movie is direct. In defense, Peebles has been in war for a long time. That is the truth. Soldiers don't come back from war, or are on the run, reminiscing , singing songs. yes, Nike. And he always told them to follow him if they want but no questions. He really is a pure man in black.

15:40 education is power is the message and your right Nike, the movie is stating its purpose

16:15 you did see a native american woman hanged.

18:10 Zenobia is funny, she said wakanda , kkk

18:50 I think they were performed well cause they are frustrated, but it is backlogged. It is a tentative. It is a frustrated scene. They love each other, but this is a love that had a beautiful beginning and has been delayed and waylayed for years.

21:22 Zenobia , your review isn't bad. it is honest, but it is about aesthetic. Peebles wanted the man in black to be truly that. Films tend to present the man in black historically as very talkative, very expressive. CLint eastwood in unforgiven is very quiet. eastwood is married to a native american woman and it seems loveless, he leaves her on the land and that is that.

21:46 good point to harlem nights. Posse was a collage film. yes, big daddy kane was a great father time. and like harlem nights they can't come back.

25:34 yeah, classic. for the black dos western genre, you will find it is preceded by Buck and the preacher and then follwoed by harder they fall

 

IN AMENDMENT

In John Wick 4 , Keanu Reeves went against an earlier script and cut out all the talking for John Wick's character, same as Jesse Lee in Posse. As a writer who believes in non verbal communication as well as an attentive challenge. I write characters that don't always fit the audiences expectation in how they speak or act non verbally. So Zenobia's point is a good thing to comprehend in the commercial desire of a film or story. As a reviewer said to a stageplay of mine. IF you go against the commonly accepted cues the audience wants, it will hinder/harm/have some negative aspect to the liking of your work. I think she was right and Zenobia proves it. 

IN AMENDMENT PART 2

a film outlaw posse has been made, i don't think it is a sequel to posse 

 

 

 

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@ProfD no technical. 

 

No, the usa is imperial. Like all empires it gets attention from the countries it bullies. UK was no different.