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    Forty third in the Cento poetry series. A cento is a poem made by an author from the lines of another author's work. In the series I place my cento and a link to the other authors poem.  

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    @ProfD  I think 99% of black people in humanity know tribes exist in the black village and have a local white populace as a historic enemy. I think 99% of black people know the solutions for black people in one geographic location rarely match another location. 

     

    The issue of contention is the idea that black tribes must have common ground to cooperate with each other and as I said, I don't think that is true. Some tribes can cooperate, like black donkeys side black elephants in the usa. But how can black militants in the usa cooperate with black nonviolent vowing christians? no way exist and that isn't negative or a failing among black people, merely the truth that fate has brought.

     

    This is why I tend to ask in AALBC, who is your tribe? In the same way that I am connected with you, Profd, pioneer, troy and the others in this online community into an online tribe, aalbc, offline you,  Profd, or pioneer or troy aren't in my offline tribe. And that isn't bad, that is merely a truth of fate. 

    But often when i ask on here, what are you doing with like mindeds offline i get no response. all black people in the usa  have to embrace their tribes more.

  3. @ProfD I must add, not all black leaders in the past defined have our own the same way. the young web dubois was preaching hyper integration, so was frederick douglass his whole life. Again why Douglass was booed in his composite america speech facing a crowd of black people. I argued and I argue that black leaders in the past, while all wanted black betterment did not preach the same definition of what black betterment is. and that multivision, yes not division, multivision, has maintained in the black populace in the usa ever since. 

    Frederick Douglass's definition of black betterment didn't include black financially independent towns or black people leaving the usa to other places regardless of the situation. 

    Booker t washington's definition of black betterment didn't include phenotypically integrated work spaces

    WEB DUbois the younger's definition of black betterment didn't include financial aid for the black poor. 

    Marcus Garvey's definition of black betterment didn't include staying in the usa or any country mostly populated by whites or dominated by a white minority, ala the jamaica he came from. 

    Nat Turner again , in the same time frame, yes killed for obvious reasons :)  but his definition of black betterment didn't include blacks living peacefully side whites

    Remember all five of these leaders had cultural adherents in the black populace as they did live at the same time. 

    And the same goes for later generations of black leaders in the black populace in the usa, the 60s especially,  Malcolm X/MLK jr/Fred Hampton all wanted black betterment but didn't have the same definition and the variances in definition matter.

    Now why say this ?

    When black people in the usa talk about our forebears we tend to name the ones that suit our philosophy but not name the others who don't but mention the whole as a unified mind. When they were not. I just gave two examples. 

    So, all of us, including me, have to realize when we talk about the village, it has different tribes within and these tribes sometimes don't have a way to mix, but all tribes have presence today.

    When you look at the black elected official class, they are the best embodiment of frederick douglass's definition. They don't do for black people, they are trying to make the ideal of the usa be true, which they feel is best for all. And have a larger populace than ever before. 

    When you look at Historical Black colleges, as in the time of Booker T Washington they still get financed by whites for the most part, while are still overwhelmingly black educational spaces, and  as all are southern are equivalent to black towns in the south but are financially better off and foster greater education.And have a more stronger internal community than ever before. 

    When you look at the black wealthy in the usa, they are the embodiment of Dubois when younger talented tenth, even more evolved, and like Dubois when younger many of them have a positive taste  for white european culture or peoples but are wealtheir than ever before. 

    When you look at Black people who leave the usa for black countries that is the first step in garveyism and every year after he was forced out of the usa, blacks in the usa, have always left or returned to somewhere black outside the usa with a positive footing. Saturating the black countries outside the usa not just in africa but in the caribbean, with a mind to complete freedom for black people.

    When you look at Black people who commit violent responses to white power that is the embodiment of Turner. And every year since he has died some black people have reached a tipping point with the white populace and even if alone, have exacted their revenge. 

     

    And, these are not the only tribes. The black christian tribe. The black muslim tribe. The black nationalist tribe. The black republican tribe. And with immigration the Black latino tribe. The black asian tribe, have grown and have their own positions which are unique to them. 

    In my mind the problem is too many black people criminalize blacks who are in other tribes. The one thing that I think all black people in the usa can accept is that the  black village in the usa has many tribes and all of them have the right to grow. yes, all of them. yes, the black militant. Just because I am not one to join the blacks who want to kill all the whites doesn't mean I think them crazy or stupid or foolish. The Black past in the usa is open to all interpretations. And, I don't see anything wrong by a black person saying they are in a blood feud with whites. It doesn't mean I Will join them but I don't see any incorrectness in their path. It has merit.  In the same way black people wanting to be presidents or governors has merit. And I will not join them either. 

    So, when we black folks in the usa talk of our forebears , lets be specific, don't try to make them a unified set cause they were not and our leaders today are not. They had varying positions , all valid. Wish all black people well. Hope the best for them. and to those blacks who are similar minded, focus on your tribe in the village 

  4. @Pioneer1

    In today's media anything is possible, unfortunately the kind of investigative reporting for such an inquiry is not being financed.

     

    And clearly emotions were high cause law enforcers were outside the train car when some of the people crushing each other were crying for law enforcers presence

     

    But experiences are different amongst nyc's vast populace. I realize you may not think it or know it based on your personal experience or offline connections but in my experience each populace in nyc has varying experiences within themselves concerning nyc. I can use myself as an example concerning the trian, i have never had one problem. I didn't even get caught on the train for 9/11. I admit something far more violent could had happened to me, but:) again,  I was part of the most who got lucky .  

     

    yes, it was an altercation. Where in humanity  do adults not get into altercations? 

     

    @ProfD

    and this was an altercation, this wasn't  psycho killer person or something, this wasn't a bomber. it was an altercation. It happens. To stop the common occurence of two humans fighting you will need law enforcers on every blcok of nyc every day. Human beings actually have disagreements with each other and come to blows, all throughout humanity you know. 

     

    The problem PRofd is that nYC has two populaces concerning law enforcement. Their are people whose personal experiences , like me, whose greatest threats have been law enforcement, not other citizens while, while, there are people like pioneer or troy or those in the video whose personal experience greatest threat has been fellow citizens and law enforcement has been a "savior" . these two groups want two different things that can't work simultaneously. 

     

    If I go out in the street with a knife and start waving it wildly yelling babble , even though cameras are everywhere in nyc, and I am not harming anyone. People like pioneer in my local offline populace will say, "that boy crazy , where are the cops" and will call the cops , the media will say an endangerment to the community. Mayor adams will say, another example of mental health decay. A single black man angry , waving a knife , yelling is the great symbol of crime. And  when i think about it, i remember how a black teenager was killed by law enforcement for doing just that. Two law enforcers , both carrying guns i might add, had no recourse but to shoot a teenage boy with a kitchen knife, said boy was not holding a hostage, wasn't attacking anyone directly, he was in his anger on the street, and yes, someone like pioneer had called the cops to the scene in the first place. Got a black boy murdered by two gun wielders who had no legal problems whatsoever. And for me the tragedy is the black person who called was never publicly acknowledged.  I always find it telling how people who say they believe in law enforcement need to police the crazy niggers are willing to call on strangers in their neighborhood, but never have the courage to step into the light and announce to their neighborhood they did it. Why the shame?  

    When commissioner sewell tried to reprimand, not fire, but reprimand a nypd official the mayor who hired her didn't support her.

    https://aalbc.com/tc/topic/10417-why-kechant-sewell-left-the-nypd/

    and she left.  

    The NYPD completely ran or aided or abetted every single illegal or criminal activity in NYC that has affected masses. Every single one since the founding of the NYPD by boss tweed in the 1800s from irish people who were trying to make money off of the irish populace illegally.  Tweed gave them a badge and the nypd has been involved in all criminal or illegal actions in nyc ever since, ever since. 

    So to truly diminish the criminal element in nyc you need to attack the nypd but the people who think the common folk should have a zero instance of negative behavior in public carry the day. And it makes sense, News media knows attacking the nypd is not only expensive but generates enemies, powerful ones. Government officials are unwilling to do it cause the nypd have always been powerful and through said 70s when they were arguably the most blatantly unashamedly corrupt, they seemed to gain more power or influence in the future, even though they were completely behind the city's age of blight in the 60s 70s 80s. so the problem is NYC has two populaces whose desires don't match.

     

    the NYPD can't be cleaned up while also grown Profd. 

     

     

     

  5. @Troy 

    I considered searching but i noticed, you can't search comments exclusively, or at least i was unable to in the advanced search settings, you can do status updates, topics, blog entries, events, but not specific comments within and I recall not exactly, a comment where I think you said something similar, but it is vague. I know it is a way and with all the comments. I dropped it but something search wise to consider for the site remodeling.

     

    and based on your prose i stand in error or I was wrong

     

    yeah but to your point about individuals, as in the subway video, not everybody was acting like that, and to maybe the common point we have addressed in the culture section here, there is no we:) how some act isn't how others act , how some live isn't how others live and the media ... and enjoy your weekend:) 

     

     

     

     

  6. @Troy I am being harsh and my prose confirms i feel overreaction by many to these issues. It is a balance. 

    well... People offline have said i am uncommon

    yes they were scared but in the same video some people didn't feel they needed to crouch down under the subway chairs. some people were sitting  making videos. And why, the guy was gone.  In the same video people showed a more level headedness, and this goes to the issue we have been discussing in this community. A greater level headedness in this issue or the scenarios about it.

    But you said the answer. You said you were happy to leave NYC as you didn't feel safe in it. I wish more people who felt like you in nyc would simply leave. that is the answer. And not just to nyc but anywhere. 

     

    Right. I just know people significantly older than you who lived in nyc their whole lives and didn't share the same assessment of the city's criminality as yours. I am not saying your wrong, please comprehend that,  but I trust said folk and I accept their assessment over yours. 

     

    @ProfD

    I don't mind people running from gunfire, but the man had left already. During that video law enforcement was outside the train. the man was gone. Some of the people in the video realized that, some people overreacted. Many in this group talk about maturity , but  true maturity is when the mind is trained, the spirit is trained. Anyone can suffer a terrible boss and pay bills, a child can play chess,  a truly mature person has a calm mind amidst the fire. 

     

    Someone did get hurt. I remember when a shooting happened at a concert, and multiple people got killed cause the people ran out so immaturely. The shooting killed one person the people acting like they are running from the christian rapture killed six. Calm down folks. It was an altercation. it happens. The altercation didn't even spread out. 

    And this goes to my solution. If you are that scared then you need to leave NYC. I have never felt fear  from the common resident in nyc. I have been in regons where no blacks should be. In the dark, seen people looking at me, i didn't feel fear.  People have asked me offline how it is at night walking about. I say it is perfectly safe. 

    If you feel that scared anywhere on earth you need to leave that place, that is the answer. And as black DOSers we should know this better than any for centuries most of our people felt the greatest fears every day somewhere in the usa., and we weren't allowed to leave, the one thing we all wanted more than anything.

     

     I am 100% certain that the black populace in NYC was fiscally poorer in its past and the services of the city to the black populace was less in the past. And those two factors created an inevitable presence of more fiscally poor or angry black people. But their greater presence doesn't equate to more crime. 

     

     

  7. I saw a video of the fight that led to the incident in the train. 

    It is easy to explain. It isn't some grandiose. Two men got into an altercation, one had a gun and shot the other. If you look at the original video, neither man touched or tried to drag anyone else into this. These two men chose to get into a fight. It happens. This isn't criminality. Dueling was legal in nyc, ala Burr and hamilton right?

    Sometimes adults want to fight it happens in every time period wherever humans beings live. 

    It is not a sign of a city falling. 

    I repeat neither man was some person totally disinterested in fighting, both at the end got into it. One had a gun.

     

     

     

     

    and the brilliance in the video are the wise people not overreacting. The guy had already gone, you got people crushing each other on the train acting like a wild shooter is on the train. It is called stupidity. The fight was literally in one car, it never spread. People are really picking up bad habits. Overreaction is a bad habit. 

  8. What next is beyond schrumpft or biden

    The one thing that must be said, the people, all the people [blacks , non blacks, women, men, young, old, latino, anglo, asian, christian, buddhist, atheist, fiscally rich, fiscally poor, native americans, all the parts of lgbtq+, immigrants, migrants, southerners , northerners, black panthers, kkk, and all other groups in the usa ]of the usa warrant poor leadership. Even the fact that the peoples in the usa say they don't comprehend why they have poor leaders is a lie. 

    Truth isn't always easy or pretty, it isn't always convenient but it is always true. 

    What next for a country of lies, more lies, for the truth is the one thing that will do more damage than any other. 

     

  9. @ProfD 

    For me, I concur that china is deemed the strongest rival to the usa in the battleground of the internet which is the source of this issue . I don't know if that is what you are saying. 

     

    yes, I did mention the house of representatives in the first sentence for a reason.

     

    @Pioneer1

    Based on how you see the parties of governance you are 100% correct. I don't see a division but a multivision in both major, present in all 50 states, parties of governance.

     

    I will say it means nothing.

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  10. I love the fact that the two parties can unite around this sole issue in the house of representatives. This issue represents the third path.

     

    His reasoning

     

     

     

    For me, this is the history of the internet. 

    The internet with all of its usa based, infiltrating/spying/sneaking/data thieving websites was acceptable. but then, came, the first, and to date only non usa based website to truly gain mass appeal in the usa. Bytedance's tiktok and the usa system is full against it. 

    Helping native americans get what they are owed? multivided

    Helping blacks get what they are owed? multivided

    Helping women grow faster? multivided

    Helping countries outside the usa improve? multivided

    Helping the fiscal poor in the usa? multivided

    Leading usa to isolation? multivided

    Keeping usa the center of international order? multivided

    Any other issue but Tiktok? Multivided

    Tiktok? complete unity :)

     

     

     

     

    I wonder how much money all the usa based tech firms are giving the government officials?:) 

  11. @ProfD in nyc I am but comprehend, I am an anglo, like you, an english speaker primarily. 

    The term latino just means: spanish/italian/french/portuguese/romanian speaker primarily. but it doesn't refer to phenotype and that matters cause in the larger usa most latinos are not black/negra. In california most latinos are mexicans who are usually mestizo, central americans, again usually mestizos. In florida the cubans are latinos while mostly blanco, most brasilians in the usa are brancos. Brasil has a huge negra/preto populace but the majority of immigrants from brasil are whites, not blacks.  You comprehend. In NYC you have the most haitians[yes haitians are latinos]- who are usually noir/ dominicans who are usually mulatto. but in most other regions of the usa the majority of latinos are not negras/black.

    And to coincide...PEople say muslim but in most places in the usa the majority of muslims are whites,  but in nyc you have an uncommon while greater percentage of black muslims.

    So from a federal angle I think your 100% correct that the majority of latinos are not black. But in nyc, the percentage of black latinos is higher than any other. 

     

    To what latinos want. Remember, whites of european descent choose the other group they feel that threatens them the most. IT was originally native americans, ala their near extinction. Then it went to blacks.for most of the history in the usa raised to be pack mules, the human machines.  But, it is a new millennium,  I will say, at least in NYC, i think many white or mestizo latinos fear of being in the place of ADOS in the eyes of whites anglos. They definitely do in NYC based on some of the speeches in local media. 

  12. I will speak for me, or those who think similarly to myself,  six million riders, with six incidents. Means it is a ten thousandth of a percent chance you are the one harmed.  I feel safe.

     

    @ProfD

    yeah, there are many in nyc's black populace who think wise to you, ... plus there are many who think opposite. 

    In terms of elected officials, you rarely find black elected officials in NYC historically who are outside the narrow philosophical group of: christian/fiscal capitalist/integrationist . Adam clayton powell was the first black representative in the city council, representing harlem of course, and he was a christian preacher, a fiscal capitalist, an integrationist... today I add pro immigration as a common factor. But you rarely see any black elected officials in nyc whose philosophies will find them where you are profd. 

    So my point being, is, sadly, regardless of where the black populace is in nyc, which incudes negras- black latinos, whom I think are more anti mestizo/blanco/ while partial to mulatto latinoes. the black elected officials are very much of one particular subrace in the black race in nyc. So to functionalize your position in nyc will need a black party of governance in nyc.

    @Troy I comprehend your position, like Pioneers'

    While a nice idea, I don't think a counternarrative works from the media or even a narrative of safety in the first place. As I told you or pioneer, I know black people in nyc who have always felt unsafe. I never said all black people in nyc feel as I do, i just said many do and I argue most. But the convincing game will not work. 

    How can you convince someone of safety when their demands is 100%? I don't think it is possible. Simply because the absolutism of the desire in itself. You can't convince someone who wants 100% non incidents of safety in humanity anywhere, at least in my view.

    TO be fair, it isn't from him as much as it is from the white european descent populaces in Nyc + Nystate. Remember, when adams + hochul tried to get the upstate cities to accept immigrants the upstate cities successfully blocked them both, and most of the immigrants where blanco/mestizo latinos. 

    That relatively recent incident where a set of mestizo latinos attacked law enforcers was a trigger for the white populace's change. 

    To your point, the black members, most if not all,  of the city council have maintained the non white european christian coalition and supported decriminalizing immigrants. 

  13. He said he can tell people about in one day six million riders and only six felonies  that day but people need to feel safe.

    So, the mayor of NYC is flat out saying that the problem isn't crime but the perception of crime in nyc and this means that people , like some in this very online community are so frightened or afraid of violence that even if they have no personal story or incidence they are only content when zero but that is a dysfunctional desire. 

    But, the war on crime is turning , every day more and more i notice the mayor or governor seem dedicated to getting latinos as the primary war on crime target which overall is going to be better for the black dos populace in nyc. 

  14. @ProfD

     

    I have said in this forum many times my position on relating the black populace in the usa to the black populace anywhere else. My position is the black populace in the usa is unrelated to any other black populace in humanity, based on its scenario. It is incomparable to any other black populace. The truth, not positive or negative, but the truth. The Black DOS populace is not comparable to the Americo Liberians in Liberia or the Creole people in Sierra Leone, even though all three share a historical root of coming from black people enslaved in the usa. 

     

    I think the black populace in the usa is financially better off than any other black populace in humanity, though I have to say to any who may read this, financial betterment for one doesn't mean their community is free or powerful.

    also add @ProfD to your reply to pioneer that the usa isn't thousand of years old 

  15. I admit I love the graphic simply because it shows how in germany you have people who drop out of school or not vaccinated. Merely because media in the usa tends to suggest that the only children who drop out of school in all of humanity is black kids in the usa, which some black people actually repeat. Second , us media has made it seem like people in the usa who didn't get vaccinated endangered the whole world, like everyone else on earth got vaccinated. 

    The lies of usa media, which get resounded by so many, made me enjoy this post visuality.

     

    IN AMENDMENT

    I am not supporting katrina christiansen but I think her underlying point is the publicly traded firm environment is a problem. I may be wrong about her. But 

    Black folks, open pulpit, what are your thoughts to publicly traded firms?

     

     

     

     

     

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