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@Mel Hopkins ahh I thought you had copied and pasted content from the guy in the image. I see. 

2. I will not get into a word debate with you my fellow wordsmith. 

3. KArdashians are white, I know, I thought I said that.

4. I see... I don't know what you mean by access, i will assume that means more than average money, but don't most women go with their own kind at a financial level? 

I did comprehend but I just wanted to mention about Odom. My comment was meant as an aside. Not to the theme of the post. I should had stated that from the beginning

congrats @Troy

@Pioneer1 after reading greg's comment, it seems his solution is in two parts: 1 every black woman must be married 2 every black man must be a loving financially able partner.

The problem is, the assumptions.

1. that a fiscally poor or unemployed child or adult from a happy home or part of a happy home will not roam the streets or commit illegalities or commit crimes for profit. 

2. that unmarried parents are by default bad parents. That is another false assumption.

After reading the prose, I have to mention one small point. if kardashians represent the so called better class woman, ala privileged,  who the black guy quoted seems to think is white then black men need to worry about all those relationships cause I follow sports. and, a basketball player by the name of Lamar Odom used to be considered one of the best in the league and after his tenure with a kardashian, I don't know their names, he forgot how to play ball or train or manage himself. 

Now I do think of Get Out from Peele and that line, she licking your balls and shit.  I wonder what said kardashian did to lamar odom but his story before during and after getting with a white woman is a cautionary tale in my view to any brothers thinking towards those lines. And to brothers not thinking towards those lines it is a reason <not the biggest reason to stick with your kind or at least in color lines, that is the beauty of Black women or women of color in general over the white woman> near the end of the exhibit line.

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Congrats to Francia Marquez, but I hope she acts like the best of Black leadership, not the common or mediocre. Black people in South America need/warrant/deserve better than what Black people in North America had or have in government or leadership in general. 
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@Mel Hopkins fair enough

@Delano that is fine, this is all for fun. I didn't expect any commentary and i only hoped to generate thoughts or thinking offline. So what has come:) is surprising but good enough.

@Pioneer1   I have been fortunate to have many, not all but I say most,  unshy women in my offline life. 

... I once saw a woman in the street, downtown, she was paraplegic, chair bound and she had a man who was sitting next to her, also paraplegic, chairbound.  They got many stares. but I watched them from a distance, as I wrote poetry inspired by their enjoyment of each other. So don't worry, as long as you find someone who wants to walk the road of life with you, all will be well.

@Cynique thank you for your reply

@Mel Hopkins thank you for your reply

Happy belated father's day or juneteenth to all:)  may all father's continue to earn respect and all people whose forebears were enslaved in recent times enjoy their freedom and yearn for even more

@Cynique you were born in 1933... I am shocked you even bother with online communication, but thanks for interacting. 

Your correct about juneteenth but I quote myself

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when i was kid my parents plus other elders made sure by the time i was halfway through elementary i knew all key moments of black history in the usa.

Juneteenth is specific to the black populace in texas. But the 13th amendment could be mentioned couldn't. I daresay maybe even celebrated, but I comprehend that while the civil rights act of the 1960s is mentioned heavily, black people have never seemed interested in celebrating the 13th amendment, which is the true end of slavery legally outside of prisons. It seems to me, black parents should be catering to the black populace  in their home when communicating to their children. I don't know why black people need white people to cater to black folk if black folk actually value it. You say i generalize. Your right, I assume. I can't speak or assess every black parents. But I am not generalizing. I am mentioning a flaw or a problem. History isn't merely something you read, it can be something you lived and black people lived our pain. Black parents lived our pain. all black parents had to do to educate any black child on the usa was tell their children their life story. Black parents who didn't which included some , I daresay most, elders in my clan or bloodline are failures. I have heard the reasons offline, but they were wrong. 

WARNING: a personal question is asked so simply don't reply if offended, don't reply if insulted. Only reply if you want to answer, and no man should comment as no man is a woman.  And if a man must comment please don't be disrespectful.  I have never banned a comment nor is that my way online but... 

I ask women in AALBC a simple yes or no question. Based on interactions with black men in intimate settings, can you count all the orgasm you had on both hands in your life? 

This does not include orgasms by yourself or aided by a machine by yourselves or with a woman. 

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@harry brown the question is define freedom? 

before you can judge juneteenth you have to ask, how do black people define freedom? 

Many black people in the usa  define freedom as the ability to vote/own a business/fuck a white person in peace /serve in the military.

Based on that definition black people have already gotten freedom. But what happens when a black person defines freedom as black power. What happens when a black person defines freedom as no nonblacks with black control all over? Based on those definitions juneteenth wasn't. 

So the question is how do black people define freedom? and from a media view, the problem is, most black people viewed in media will never admit that a greater variance exists in the black populace of the usa or in the larger humanity for their agenda to force through peer pressure all black people to view freedom the same way. 

But the question isn't is juneteenth freedom but does juneteenth match the freedom as a black person or group defines it ? 

george lucas's wife, right, congrats, I should had read your title more closely, I was thinking she bought a nfl team which is very expensive for one person to do. but she is a part owner and the first black woman part owner. congrats to her, it is what she wants. 

My issue with this question like many is the unwillingness to be concise in the original poster or later by the poster. 

You have to first define how you rank peoples?

Are you saying blacks in the USA as compared to other peoples in the USA? 

Well, from white statistics the native american has worse statistics than black americans. 

so from a white statistical view, blacks aren't behind everyone else if you view native americans as part of everyone else. 

Now if you are going into geopolitics, the white european american has kin in powerful european countries. the asian american whether white or black has kin in powerful asian countries. Countries in africa or in the americas south of the usa have no member like a china/russia/india who are nuclear powers thus command a respect that non nuclear powers do not warrant. 

The question is how do you define the status of groups.

@Delano not everybody can be bought, some communication si the truth, not most, not all, but some

@Mel Hopkins I oppose your historical statement, business enterprise and job creation wasn't the only path that could had led to a better tomorrow or for black survival. If we had a child, and you told our child that I would say to our child, that is a lie. But that is what a lot of black people in key roles in the black populace chose to do. I do not say it to desire a change in the past but I oppose that black people had only one path to survival in the commonly called antebellum south.

NYC is fortunate, local news comes in many forms. If you know where to look in nyc local news can give rare views. It was local news that allowed me to hear what sean bell's father said which black newspapers in nyc didn't even state. Yes, your 100% correct all shows have an audience they are reaching for. but, from shows like Like IT Is, which is gone, to black news outlets in NYC, to shows like democracy now. I find alot of truth in these venues. but most places, cities or towns, in the USA don't have the internal media that NYC does. 

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@Mel Hopkins I wish you had quoted the question above what you did. I will

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If voting is the only action Black people in the usa  in recent memory seem to support then what happens if 100% of black people voted? what would be the next action? 

It seems to me like most black people or black groups don't have anything. 

I was not speaking on the black populace standalone. I was speaking in context of collective actions or individual actions that can be summed collectively concerning juneteenth that black people suggest. I have said in this very community that black people have always owned businesses. I am certain of that based on my bloodline, whose business ownership goes into the 1800s. You may know this Mel but I want it clear to anyone beside you who may read this comment.  I was not suggesting the black populace of the usa has nothing but in the context of Juneteenth, not it aside, the black populace seems to only utter voting as a collective action, and I think that is a negative. 

@Pioneer1 @ProfDyour comments to greg made me laugh thank you:) 

IN AMENDMENT ProfD , history books aren't being white washed, history books have always been half truths. Always. From scrolls of the time of Kemet to photonic memory systems on mars, history books are always half truths. to tell the truth means you have to break through the lies that maintain the system or way of things. If you are a native american child, what history book can really tell the truth. The truth is that the entire american continent is populated by governments founded by people who killed your forebears and took the land they lived on for their own purposes. Its not just white wash, its the truth is hard. The truth doesn't forgive negative actions. Every single native american is historically honest should have one reply from canada to argentina, from montreal to buenos aires, get some explosive and blow up everything that isn't a reservation which is very little. Native americans didn't want to make the usa, they didn't want to make brasil. they didn't want to make canada, or mexico or jamaica or haiti or any of these countries. but they were living on those lands before those countries or their predecessors was made. Its not just white wash, it is fear of the truth. 

@Cynique when i was kid my parents plus other elders made sure by the time i was halfway through elementary i knew all key moments of black history in the usa. I have said in this community in the past and I repeat it, no black child raised by black parents in this country from the time of the war between the states to now should had any ignorance to key black moments in history. The only reason they do is a failure of black parents, and a failure that doesn't stem from ignorance, it stems from, again, what they want. I don't know how many black people offline I heard say, they were enlightened later. but I always try to instill among black people, all of our great great grand parents knew about slavery, the usa before the war between the states, during the war, after the war. They didn't need a book, why didn't they tell their children, your great grandparents? and then if they did why didn't your great grandparents tell their children, your grandparents? and if they did, why didn't your grand parents  tell their children, your parents? Books aren't needed if people are willing to simply tell the next generation the truth. I know from many elders offline, ho defend that position. They speak of trying to not influence the child. You want the truth to influence children. That is why the truth is vital. Just cause black peoples truth in the usa isn't pretty or convenient or non violent, didn't mean it warranted being unspoken, but that is what went on in our community and the consequence of that near beyond repair. And goes to my core question about how black people think of juneteenth. 

@Greg do you have any thoughts concerning juneteenth?

@Troy I said it years ago, and I repeat, the problem with crime <actions to harm another whether legal or not> is the goal from most people. if the goal of people is to have 100% no violent actions, no thefts, no illegalities  <meaning actions against the law>or crimes whatsoever, then kill yourself, cause a country of 300 million people, the usa or a humanity of billions, i think six billion, will have crimes/thefts/illegalities/violence. 

Most in this community have said or will say, we all know this. But the problem isn't ignorance , again it is the goal. 

I know it is a broken record from me, but again, the black populace in the usa is complicit in this. Before the internet, in the 1970s, whether black people want to admit ir or not, many black people joined in on white media and started this modern media criminalization. 

Every crime is a symbol of rampant violence, rampant illegal action is a symbol of deterioration. This problem stems before the internet. NEws papers and cable networks in the 1970s were already doing what the internet amplifies. 

So, modern media continuing with more vigor the media approach of the past is a problem, but the approach started in the past. 

I repeat, My bloodline has been in nyc for near over 100 years before my birth and what I gather from my elders is NYC was never the dangerous place movies/newspapers/cable network/ and the internet media venues have always suggested. 

Yes, babies get killed, mothers get raped, elders get exploited. But if you think about it, this has always been a very small percentage. NYC was at its most violent in the heyday of the prohibition. Ever since then nyc has never been as bad. 

But, when you have the religious communities who make every action seem like the rapture. when you have the media parading mourners whose sadness is deemed common in media, you get this narrative. the modern internet merely gives no respite, but the problem is long before the internet. 

@ProfDfair enough

I Will say this, nyc media admits that statistics the white controlled system collects states that violent acts against blacks is over 100% or white jews is over 100% but violent acts against asians was into the negative. so, in nyc, a downtrend has occured by statistics whites keep. 

@Troy I saw excerpts on pbs, how much is the visual record? I will not pay for the theater, though that is the best place to see it

@ProfD My focus was on juneteenth. As you said, this group has talked to death about the relationship of the black populace in the usa to the government of the usa. 

But the issue is juneteenth. how black people celebrate or honor it. 

I saw on local news , black people talking about Juneteenth , and voting was mentioned as an action, besides the ever common mentioning of Black folk in the past. 

I will not repeat the details , but all the representatives of my district from the city to the congress are black and donkeys. Now, they haven't done anything brilliant but I don't know what more can a black populace in a district in the usa do then choose a candidate that says they will do better. Voters don't have a gun to anyone's head. They can't force anything.

But a question occurred to me. if 100% of black people, who were eligible to vote, voted in the USA, what action will be uttered by the people who talk about voting this juneteenth?

If voting is the only action Black people in the usa  in recent memory seem to support then what happens if 100% of black people voted? what would be the next action? 

It seems to me like most black people or black groups don't have anything. 

I wonder what the AALBC community members think on this? 

@KENNETH two of those issues will never happen at the federal level and the why I will not repeat. but law enforcement reform side voting reform will not occur through any legislation of the congress, and with the makeup of the supreme court , any executive order applied to the states can be shot down with a lawsuit from a state/county/city. executive orders are not laws for a reason. 

The equal employment opportunity commission may get expanded but the current financial situation isn't over from being settled and until then, nothing