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  1. Black American Millionaires

    in Culture, Race & Economy

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    @Delano yes, the old saying, strong people lead themselves... history proves that isn't a lie but isn't the truth either. 

    A person can lead themselves and be strong and not help their own community, especially in the usa. I think many black people have been strong in the usa post war between the states, they have led themselves to individual profit. Now does that mean the black community has improved since the war between the states, well...

     

    @ProfD I quote you

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    Independently capable of generating  and sustaining wealth in all realms (mental, physical and spiritual). 

     

    Complete autonomy and self-sufficiency in all areas of human activity. 😎

     

    If that is the destination, I will firmly say that can't happen in the usa for the black community, can it? complete autonomy or self sufficiency, in the usa for the black community demands black people control natural resources and have the militaristic means to defend said resources. Can that actually happen in the usa ? In another country, especially a black one, meaning has mostly black people in it, possibilities exist. but in the usa, this can't happen right? 

    I may comprehend you wrong, but I don't see that level of autonomy of self sufficiency for the black community in the usa. where am I miscomprehending you?

     

    @Mel Hopkins the black community in the usa has changed right? it has gone through multiple phases since the end of the war between the states right? the modern black community has more members with a multiphenotypical background, has more members from a recent immigration standpoint, these factors are huge. the black community in the usa in the 1960s didn't have so many recent immigrants from the islands/africa/asia/south america/europe as today. and the black community circa 1865 was the most monolithic culturally/financially/heritagewise than ever after. I think the demography of the black community has changed alot in a relative short time. And I want to add having friends who came as children to the usa from places in africa, clan members who saw how black people immigrating from the caribbean were treated in the black community in the early 1900s , that the black community in the usa was forced to accept alot of new members without its want, to be blunt. Look at the white community in the usa. Even though white jews or catholics have been in the usa from the 13 colonies era, it took a very long time for the white protestants to truly embrace white jews or white catholics. Whereas in the black community, the impotency of the black community meant new black folk from latin america, from africa, from asia, had no communal restriction from Black DOSers anywhere near what white protestants gave white jews or catholics. So I concur about new ways but the black community in the usa hasn't had time to settle as a community since the war between the states and that can be problematic when you are trying to organize. 

  3. Do you think all black athletes need to cut the cord of the agents?

    in Culture, Race & Economy

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    @ProfD your right, over 150 years since the end of the war between the states, means the black community in the usa had time. But, the problem is the black leadership in the usa has never guided the black community to be communal. Many Black people will say, the NAACP  or the panthers or the nation of islam or the black soldiers from World war I or the Garveyites or the Historical Black colleges or the black church all fought for communal strength. but , beyond who financed some of those organizations or their true intention, I argue that all of them, in cheap retrospect, had strategies that could only result in individual growth. 

    I can use the harlem rens of harlem nyc as an example. 

    The black man who financed them, was their owner. But, if he would had succeeded in his goal of the Rens. THey would be an NBA team today. What is the problem? 

    At the end of the day, even though the HArlem Rens played in harlem. The renaissance ballroom, now destroyed, that existed next to the abyssinian baptist church, was owned for most of its history by Black people. Was the best plan for a fiscally rich black person to own a team in the predecessor of the modern NBA, or was it to create a black basketball league side other fiscally rich black people?

    My point, it isn't merely consumerism. It is the strategy of Black people who are not beholden to white money like the average black person. They historically don't utilize their wealth to empower the black community, they use it to empower themselves, sometimes they succeed, sometimes they fail. but how many of them have plans that actually involve empowering the black community. And the sport world is a prime example. 

    Why are black women not the owners of any WNBA team? why not? are black women in the usa financially unable? the answer is no. but Black women with money didn't seem interested in owning multiple wnba teams. so... that is their choice. but, that choice doesn't empower the black community.

     

    @Stefan yeah, sadly, the race of lawyers in the usa has a poor record of warranting trust by fiscally poor people. Every single black athlete that has severed the agent cord did it after they gained money. I don't think that is an accident. 

  4. Black American Millionaires

    in Culture, Race & Economy

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    @Delano well, I said ask/demand. The point is not about weakness or strength but strategy. 

    I think history shows from frederick Douglass to today, the Black community in the usa is led by leaders who want to be nonviolent or positively integrate to nonblacks. They guided the black community in the usa to be a community of individuals. the problem is, most black people in the usa did and do not want that and moreover, have not handled what that means. 

     

    @ProfD one question, can you describe what a liberated black people in the usa look like? I am not refuting your statement, about what will not influence liberation for black people in the usa, but how do you define said liberation? Note I am not asking about the process or the path, I am asking about how you define the end.

     

     

     

     

  6. Do you think all black athletes need to cut the cord of the agents?

    in Culture, Race & Economy

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    @ProfD you said 

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    Just pay a lawyer to make sure the paperwork is straight. 

    So, when the athlete is 14 and the agent is hooking them in, giving them and their clan things, cause the parents are flat broke, no bank account, no job, no money, you can accept the agent then but the parents or the player or both together, need to plan to severe later? right? 

     

    @Stefan you said

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    This is likely because many do not know how. 

    Can you also include have the money to do it? Agents hook athletes and their clans in as teenagers in the usa, and usally the parents are flat broke. And money matters in the usa.

  9. Black American Millionaires

    in Culture, Race & Economy

    Posted

    @Delano black people with money have existed in the usa when it was colonies of the british empire. Black people with money are not more profitable than white people with money but have slowly grown , without enslaving or murdering other peoples for their land. 

    The question is, is the goal of the black community ins the usa to have communal strength or to be a collection of individuals? 

  16. rebooted websites and black users

    in Culture, Race & Economy

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    @Troy

    no orkut isn't black owned but I will like to see if a set of aalbc users can work together and develop a community in one of these sites to direct traffic to aalbc . 

     

    Cool, I know people in brasil, which is where orkut was most popular, and they told me about this. 

     

    Yes, I know you are working well as owner/administrator. Proud of your work. If Black people can't do well collectively online then offline well..

  18. rebooted websites and black users

    in Culture, Race & Economy

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    Orkut is being rebooted it seems. 

    what are your thoughts? I admit, if I had money I will try to help aalbc. Money matters in website development. But beyond that... Black e-profiles or e-users... do we use these reboots wisely, what are your thoughts as e citizens? 

    I am not advocating anyone join orkut, but I offer the link as it inspired me to write this post. 

    orkut link

  22. I’m forced to eliminate guest posting on the forums

    in Black Literature

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    @Troy This includes not only forums but pages for folk right? No guest comments anywhere? 

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    Yeah, how people can not make profiles on some sites is one of the great e-questions. I daresay that the ownership of independent websites, their non corporate nature is part of why people don't. I love aalbc to be honest. I know if I ever become truly popular, that will be the real test with my relationship to this website. But I hope I get a chance to attract many many members one day.

  24. No one can go left and right at the same time

    in Culture, Race & Economy

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    A statistic says that in the usa since 2020 more and more parents are financially supporting children 18 and over, but statistics from labor say jobs are in surplus....

    A statistics from the NYPD says that black hate crimes has gone up 100%, like jeiwsh hate crime, and asian hate crime went down from last year, but nyc media never shows a person not white incarcerated or in police custody after a hate crime to black people...

    The party of andrew jackson tried to gerrymander a map and was found unconstitutional by ny state constitution while state laws in texas or elsewhere allow for gerrymandering, but people keep saying one party or another are decent...

     

    In amendment, most of the ny state judges that voted the redistricting map unconstitutional were appointed by andrew cuomo :)

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