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  1. Ancient Museum?-- & Moses

    What Do They Have in Common? MUSA

     

    Juno-Roman-Goddess-of-Marriage-Mythology

     

    JUNO

     

    by Donald L. Wasson
    published on 08 April 2015

    Juno was the Roman goddess who protected the nation as a whole but also kept special watch over all aspects of women's lives. She 

     Juno was the wife and sister of Jupiter, the chief Roman god, and the two of them were worshipped along with the goddess Minerva on the Quirinal in Rome

    https://www.ancient.eu/Juno/

     

    Juno's name comes from Greek and Roman mythology. The god Jupiter drew a veil of clouds around himself to hide his mischief, and his wife, the goddess Juno, was able to peer through the clouds and reveal Jupiter's true nature.

    NASA[11]

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juno_(spacecraft)

     

    The spacecraft also carries three Lego minifigures representing Galileo, the Roman god Jupiter, and his sister and wife, the goddess Juno.

    In Roman mythology, Jupiter drew a veil of clouds around himself to hide his mischief.

    uno was able to peer through the clouds and reveal Jupiter's true nature.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juno_(spacecraft)

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    I guess the closest term to an Ancient Museum would be a temple or PANTHEON, which would be an ancient temple where idols or statues of kings, rulers, gods, goddesses, and etc. were housed. So, in ancient civilizations then, the more ancient idols and artifacts would also be housed in their temples or other form of sacred shrines. The actual word ‘museum’ stems from the earliest form of script too from MESOPOTAMIA, as would be many other similar word structures, however, to start with the Classical Greek usage of the terms ‘MUSE’ and ‘MUSA’ without these terms being connected to a much earlier origin would be a confusion. Pioneer, you believe the term ‘MUSEUM’ means ‘MUSIC’ and connects to the name of ‘MUSA’/’MOSES’ but again, without gong back to a much earlier origin, this would be a confusion. So, I will share my research as it applies to dates and times when certain root words were used.

     

     

    [1] MUSEUM- Again, this term would not have been used in ancient times, but the closest term would probably be a PANTHEON, ‘Pan’ and ‘theos’ or Pan of gods or idols. But the root word ‘MUSE’ does stem from the earliest and most dominant civilization of which would be GREATER BABYLON. Specifically, this root term ‘SUME’ for todays’ MUSEUMS do seem to directly correlate to this time period of GREATER BABYLON for a major reason! This amazing civilization was completely developed and headed up originally by the ancient Black kings known by their Biblical name of CUSH HAM during the 2200-2000s BC, however, even in ancient times and in the Bible they were also called SUMERIANS; and this would be where this root term MUSEUM stems from.

     

    [2] THE SUMERIANS of ancient SUMER [ie Shinar]—the inverted root word SUM---MUS would be the confirmation of the origin of the term MUSEUM and so many other terms. So, to base this term during the Classical Greek times around the 400s BC would be way more than a 1000+ year gap of time!

    The word ‘museum’ agrees with this ancient history too, for a major reason that revolves around how this Babylonian empire eventually went from a high to a low point and in how the ancient Sumerians eventually became completely overthrown and many of them forced marched out of their own lands. The ancient Sumerians, Cush Ham, defined themselves as ‘KINGS’ and this means that they dominated their lands based on ‘INHERITANCE RIGHTS’. In other words, they existed in a ‘kingdom’ and were originally MONOTHEISTIC [ie. one-theist, one-god]. But because of the foreign Asiatic-typed pagan people that migrated from the east into their lands and flattered them with IDOLS that were created in their images, these Sumerian kings began to demand that their own people begin to worship them as being ‘gods’ and so, eventually, their lands became flooded with idolatry and so, their original ziggurat temples became pantheons. So, if you only regard today’s scholars and Classical Greek references, you will not get the origin of these terms as they completely omit this fact about the Sumerians and claim Greater Babylon for themselves and Assyrians. You need to regard the root terms and dates and times when these terms were in usage. Then too, you will also understand that the term MUSLIM stems from these very origins and not from the Aram Movement!

     

    [3] MUSLIM—is a term that refers to MONOTHEISM and this goes hand-in-hand with the original Sumerian kings before they began to oppress their own people and resort to the practice of slavery. The term ‘MUSLIM’ [ie MUS-LIMA], and so many other terms stem from the ancient Sumerians. Likewise, the term MUSA stems from these very origins.

     

    [4] MUSA—This term ‘Musa’ was used in Classical Greek writings and they applied it to their rendition of a more ancient time. Their myths are CODED. Their myths about JUPITER and JUNO includes strands of the earlier times of the Sumerians. But, I will be brief in a general reference point:

     

     

    The term MUSA and MUSE stems from the god ‘Jupiter’ [Apollo] in that he was ‘mischievous’ and his sister-wife JUNO did not like it. The deeper storyline though will not be understood without the Bible records. This deeper story includes the history of ancient India and in how the Biblical JapHeth was ‘mischievous’ in the viewpoint of his wife. The original Black people of India and the civilization developed based on ancient GREATER BABYLON and the Sumerians [Cush Ham] and therefore, these Kemet people were inter-mixed. So, the Greek myth tells of these early times in code in how APOLLO was communing with his MUSES, meaning his [black] Sumerian singing women. The actual Biblical breakdown on the generations of the Biblical JapHeth also reflects this too, in that all but one of his sons listed come from different women that were NOT his wife of the ark. The only son listed that comes from his wife of the ark was GOMER. The Greek mythology reflects that Juno was not pleased because she could not control her husband. So, the term MUSA stems from this basis that goes back to the 2000s BC and long before the Greeks wrote their myths. And so, the term ‘MOSES’ does stem from these early origins, but MUSA would be a term that came long before the term MOSES and etc.

     

     

    [5] the THUTMOSIS—the terms ‘THUTMOSIS’, ‘MOSLEM’, ‘SOMALIA’, ‘MAURITANIA’, ‘KHAMOSIS’, ‘AHMOSIS’, ‘MOORS’, and etc. all stem from the original SUMERIANS of Sumer, but the letter-vowel ‘O’ shows a distinction. MOSLEMS are later people from the original MUSLIM RELIGION that was set up during Arab times in the AD 600s. The term ‘MAUR’ [ie Ham-Ur] would be Moors that stem from the original movement but they became concentrated in the region of North Africa. The ancient Roman mythology of the founders of Rome REMUS—SUMER shows the coded history of how the ancient Sumerians were intermixed with their relatives the Phoenician Canaanite-Moors and it was these kinds of Moors that migrated from ancient Greater Babylon into Assyria and Italy and etc. Likewise the term THUTMOSIS shows this dated history in how the military man, Thutmose became apart of the 18th Dynasty in Egypt and then more than a hundred years afterwards, the Hebrew Moses was born and given this name.

     

    [6] MUSA versus MOSES—So yes, the name of Musa can be referred to as MOSES in certain translations today but, the names are distinct in their original usage and reflect a long history gap from ancient Sumeria around 2000s BC to the 18th Egyptian dynasty that began the NEW KINGDOM PERIOD. So, the Hebrew Moses would had nothing to do with the history being made in the Caucasus during the 1500s BC. Moses, in fact married Zipporah who was a CUSH HAMITE woman!—So it would be obvious that his name stems from these origins via the 18th Dynastic names of those KINGS! The Egyptian dynasty pharaohs were mostly defined as ‘kings’ and they were strict about passing the rule down from son-to-son, however, we also know of these conflicting issues in that very dynasty. The founders of this very dynasty were said to have come from a certain region but later, their line was interrupted by Thutmosis I, who technically began another dynastic line! Even though he was said to be from the south, technically, this man was a Hurrian and from the northern civilization of Ur of the Chaldees in Babylon. But he took the dynastic name of ‘Mosis’ and continued the line when he married into the line. But The founders of this dynasty were from the south of Egypt as they were oppressed by the Hyksos-Hurrian system and they had to overthrow this oppressive two-capital system.

     


  2. The word MUSEUM would more likely be associated to the ancient term PANTHEON and even though I posted scholarly references of today, I will share my own research and how I have come to view the MUSEUMS of today in relation to the ancient PANTHEONS of ancient times. 

     

    Today's museums house many ancient artifacts, but mainly too, they show a wide collection of ancient statues that were IDOLS and diefied as either, heads of governments and/or gods and goddesses. The root word 'PAN' would be the key word used today but also in ancient times to reflect this aspect of Idols. The root word 'PAN' can also mean 'LAND' in association with specific cultures and governments and where they set up their systems. 

     

    ****** JAPAN [ie JAP-LAND], PANTHEON [IE PAN of gods in Mesopotamia ziggurat, PAN of gods in Egypt temple, PAN of gods in Rome temple...], PAN-AMERICA [ie all america]... *****

     

    Again, this is an ancient terms that still has retained this same definition. So museums today, could be viewed in association with these ancient PANTHEON TEMPLES that housed statues of kings, gods, high priest, and etc. But the term MUSEUM defined as MUSIC or MUSES from a Greek perspective is confusion, because that was way far in time after the PANTHEON system had been developed. The term 'museum' absolutely stems from the early MESOPOTAMIAN PANTHEON BUILDERS-- KINGS, but the definition of Museum with the Hebrew man, Moses is completely off. 

     

    So, I will  share more about this...

     


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    MUSEUM in Ancient Times!? Versus the word MUSA or MOSES

     

    @Pioneer1 The closest equivalent term to the definition of Museum today would probably be PANTHEON. So, you need to go back to this time span to better understand the word MUSA of which distinctly variated from the term MOSES. I do agree though, that the word name 'Moses' does stem from the word name 'Musa' but your explanation is pure confusion. You breakdown with no valid reference, imo, is a perfect example of why 'formal education' is the key to the advancement of civilizations and all humanity. There needs to be some form of formal methodology applied to understand truth and history and also, how some information has been corrupted and therefore needs to be re-addressed.

     

    1024px-Rome_Pantheon_front.jpg

    Pantheon (Rome) - Front

     By Roberta Dragan - Own work, CC BY-SA 2.5,

    https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=1597477

     

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    The Mesopotamian Pantheon

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    Article

    by Joshua J. Mark
    published on 25 February 2011

     

     

    The gods of the Mesopotamian region were by no means uniform in name, power, provenance or status in the hierarchy. Mesopotamian culture varied from region to region, from city-state to city-state and, because of this, Marduk should not be regarded as King of the Gods in the same way Zeus ruled in Greece. While Marduk was venerated highly in BabylonEnlil held that place in Sumer

     

    ... Ziggurats were part of a temple complex, a set of buildings devoted to the care of the gods and to all the businesses of the temple. The temple complex was one of the economic centers of the city.

    https://www.ancient.eu/article/221/the-mesopotamian-pantheon/

     

     

    About the Editor

    Scott Michael Rank, Ph.D., is the editor of History on the Net and host of the History Unplugged podcast. A historian of the Ottoman Empire and modern Turkey, he is a publisher of popular history, a podcaster, and online course creator.

     

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    https://www.historyonthenet.com/ziggurats-and-temples-in-ancient-mesopotamia

     


  4. On 5/1/2019 at 7:59 PM, Pioneer1 said:

    The only reason so many people don't like kinky or even nappy (beaded) hair is because they've been conditioned by this society since childhood not to.

     

    Oh yeah. So true. I just stumbled across this video that was published in London this year in May 2019. Some of the comments that Cynique made in this thread also shows how many of us Black Americans have been so conditioned to not like our own hair and this video brings this out. Many people of African descent, right now, today, still beleive that natural African-typed nappy hair is 'Bad Hair'. Some of my relatives on all of my extended families sides still use these terms 'Good Hair' and 'Bad Hair' and they say it oftentimes in casual conversations and have no reservations about their beliefs at all. 

     

    Hidden Camera: Public Reactions to Afro Hair –

    Natural Hair Documentary NAPPY ROOTS

     

     

     

     

     

     

     


  5. On 9/22/2019 at 9:02 AM, Pioneer1 said:

    A muse is just a mythological being that was inspired by the REAL "muse" who was Musa (Moses) their inspiration and law giver.

     

    @Pioneer1 LOL This is crazy! You have provided NO references, NO Dates, NO proof at all!

    On 9/22/2019 at 7:04 PM, Troy said:

    . @Pioneer1 i never challenge your derivatations  but they often seem contrived.

     

    @Troy Thank you! 

     

    On 9/22/2019 at 8:54 PM, Pioneer1 said:

    Attica. In 450 B.C., the playwright Euripides in his play Rhesus describes him thus, "Musaeus, too, thy holy citizen, of all men most advanced in lore."[1] In 380 B.C., Plato says in his Ion that poets are inspired by Orpheus and Musaeus but the greater are inspired by Homer.

     

    @Pioneer1 You reference to "MUSIC" with "Muses" is dated at 450 BC-- Oh no!!!-- Much to far in time and does not speak to the origin of the term MUSA, nor MOSES, nor MUSES nor MUSEUM. Plato nor Homer nor any of the Classic 'White' Greek scholars can be the beginning of this ancient term "MUSE" but, yes, their source may lead back to a much more earlier origin, and much more earlier than Moses, the Hebrew. 

     

    On 9/23/2019 at 12:38 AM, Troy said:

    Right, but nothing you shared explains how do you make the leap from Musaeus to Musa (who is Musa anyway) then to Moses.

     

    Thank you! LOL!

     

     

    On 9/25/2019 at 3:30 PM, Pioneer1 said:

    You should read a book by Sigmund Freud called "Moses and Monotheism".

     

    Can you elaborate. What did Sigmun Freud touch upon about Moses and Monotheism?

     

     

    On 9/25/2019 at 9:21 PM, Troy said:

     

    @Pioneer1 this sounds wrong, historically inaccurate, on its face.  Perhaps a Biblical historical scholar like @Chevdove can lend a hand.

     

    I repeatedly say this to Pioneer, but yet, he still provides no dates, of which if he did, he would recognize himself how historically inaccurate his beliefs are.

     

    "EXACTLY what parts of my statements do you find inaccurate?"

     

     

    @Pioneer1The lifetime of Moses set in Egypt was during the 1500s and 1400s BC, by this time, The original areas of the Caucasus and the people were exposed to the earlier massive civilations of Greater Babylon and in India and elsewhere. Moses was born hundreds of years after Greater Babylon and the SUMERIAN KINGS whose civilization affected many areas in that region. The people of the Caucasus would never had needed Moses by the time he was born, because they had been well exposed to civilizations stemming from BLACK BABYLON around 2000s BC and even longer before that time. They had been exposed to the Cuneiform clay tablets and scripts and massive and extensive trading and technology and etc. You are way off.

     

    On 9/26/2019 at 9:20 PM, Pioneer1 said:

    but what impact would a biblical historical scholar have on someone who doesn't believe in the bible?

     

    It's not about whether or not you or anyone believes in the Bible, it is about TRUTH and if Historical subjects discussed are factual and by using BIBLICAL RECORDS along with other BOOKS and secular publications on the same subject are VERIFIED would be the point; this would cause certain Biblical subjects to be TRUTH, whether you believe or not.

     

    You don't have to believe that Julius Caesar existed, but if he has been documented by many different sources, especially contemporary to his lifetime, to have lived, then this sort of TRUTH is not based on you. LOL. It's based on other methodologies. NOT YOU! 

     

    On 9/27/2019 at 9:19 AM, Troy said:

    don't believe a lot of stuff in the bible. @Pioneer1 do You believe stuff like parting the Red Sea, rising from the dead, and Noah's ark?

     

    I can absolutely appreciate this statement. 

    And, I hope to address the topic of 'the parting of the Red Sea' soon, from a scientific basis. 

     


  6. CONNECTING History from Past to Present through Words

     

     

    PELOPS = BLACK FACED

    Ethiop = Ethiopian or Black faced

    Sinop, Cheops, Cleopatra, Cyclops... OPS means 'to look like'.

     

    The Peloponnesian War (431–404 BC) was an ancient Greek war fought by the Delian League

    led by Athens against the Peloponnesian League led by Sparta. ...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peloponnesian_War

     

     

    [25] And unto Eber were born two sons: the name of one was Peleg; for in his days was the earth divided;

    and his brother's name was Joktan. GENESIS 10:25.

     

    So, this descendant of Shem, named Peleg [ie Phelach] came long before AbraHAM or Jacob or Moses. Black Shem. And, so this man reveals that although, he was an original Shem, however, he marks that the Hebrew Israelites had early Egyptian ancestry. The root word 'EG' in PELEG and TUAREG means EGYPTIAN [ie EGUPTAN].

    So today, ancient peoples do NOT apply to us today as it did in the past. We, are all intermixed but, it would be crucial to understand ethnicity, and how ancient dominant cultures developed and progressed overtime. Peleg would have lived during the 2000s BC.

     

     

    [14] And the LORD said unto Moses, Write this for a memorial in a book, and rehearse it

    in the ears of Joshua: for I will utterly put out the remembrance of Amalek from under heaven. EXODUS 17:14.

    THE KELTOI-------- KEL-------- AmaLEK; The root word KEL-LEK is a common term to define the Berber/Tuareg people. During the Egyptian time period of the 18th Dynasty, this was a very old and common term to define a Canaanite-Magog peoples. And, many original Shem people were intermixed with them overtime, even the Hebrew Israelites. But the early formations was in the NORTHEAST in the Iberian Peninsula and Ancient Anatolia where they developed their first nation during Cush-Babylon times. 

     

    KELTOI = TRI-KELT culture of people that became absolutely defined by a TRI-TRADE SYSTEM during the COPPER TRADE ERA. And they serviced the Amorite empire builders.

    And the term TWAREG [ie TWA-] carries the similar meaning of being Trade Masters from this early tri-trade theme that was set up in the most ancient of times. This 'tri-theme' defined their original cultures and their trade cultures. AMORITE = AMOR or ROMA; the original Canaanite Moors or Phoenicians.  

     

    KULTEPE [ie Kult- Cult, KELTEPE] just to the north of Black-Cush-Babylon thousands of Cuneiform tables were said to be unearthed showing this tri-trade system of the earlier CELT-IBERIANS as they organized due to the Cush Hamites. Kutltepe, Kanesha & Cush-Babylon in Mesopotamia became a thriving era of advanced technology. These early AMALEKITES operated with their Asiatic relations and overthrew the Cush-Babylonians, eventually, however, even by this time, Cush-Ham and the Keltoi were intermixed. So, ancient history depends upon the early cultures that developed, initially based upon patriarch systems and not specific origins. But soon, Matriarchal system of the Asians prevailed and Black kings were overthrown constantly.  

    2000s BC

     

     [15] So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitans, which thing I hate.
    REVELATION 2: 15.

     

    So here, NICOLAITANS or CHOLCHIANS; The origins of Saint NICHOLAS before it became Latinized to Santa Claus.  

    In their origins, their supreme idol was Ashteroth and son from this basis, they become the ancestors of GOG or 

    today's term 'Caucasians'. This history is vast. However, in a nut shell, the beginning formations centered around 

    BAAL WORSHIP, [ie HEADHUNTING], Pedophilia and much more. But here would be the darkness of this human world, in the 

    form of a series of questions: If a little Black baby malefactor becomes a victim of pedophilia because he is 'Black' and 'a male'

    and his abuser has not been judged, then how does he mature and be normal?

     

    If a baby malefactor is victimized by a pedophile and then mature to adulthood and becomes the same, a pedophile and 

    predator upon other little BLACK MALEFACTORS, then should he be excused because his argument would be that he, too

    was victimized? When Black men are conditioned from birth to be violent against other Black men, where does that leave 

    womankind!? 

    How do we protect our malefactors?

    Why should Black people target White Supremacy and ignore Black systems that also enslave 'other Black people'? 

    This would be the beginning of what the ancient scriptures are alluding to, about this original son of JapHeth.

    If a government willfully sets up a system based upon Child victimization and hatred against the priesthood, in order to serve Ashteroth, then, after

    the 3rd and 4th generation, the scriptures state that system will be judged. Child Sacrifice and Child Exploitation--

    the Amorous lovers of ROMA! The Iniquity of the Amorites is now full. 

    Now maybe if people of African descent study what happened during the 18th Dynasty in Egypt, therefore, they might reconsider all

    ancient scripts including the account of the Exodus. 

     

    BRIDGING THE GAP -- the Past to the Present 

     

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    BRIDGING GAPS & CONNECTING THE DOTS from Past to Present

     

    == The Tuareg people == (… also spelt Twareg or Touareg; endonym: Kel Tamasheq, Kel Tagelmust [4])

    are a large Berber ethnic confederation. …

     The Tuaregs have been called the [“] blue people [”] for the indigo dye coloured clothes they traditionally wear and which stains their skin. [7][8] 

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuareg_people

     

    As such, the endonym strictly refers only to the Tuareg nobility, not the artisanal client castes and the slaves. [14] Two other Tuareg self-designations are Kel Tamasheq (Neo-Tifinagh; Kel Tamasheq), meaning [“] speakers of Tamasheq [”], and Kel Tagelmust, meaning [“] veiled people [”] in allusion to the tagelmust garment that is traditionally worn by Tuareg men. [4]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuareg_people

     

    Historically, there have been seven major confederations.

     

    ·         Kel Ajjer or Azjar; centre is the oasis of Aghat (Ghat).

    ·         Kel Ahaggar, in Ahaggar mountains.

    ·         Kel Adahg, or Kel Assuk: Kidal, and Tin Buktu

    ·         Iwillimmidan Kel Ataram, or Western Iwillimmidan; Menaka, and Azawagh region (Mali)

    ·         Iwillmmidan Kel Denneg, or Eastern Iwillimmidan: Tchin-Tabaraden, Abalagh, Teliya Azawagh (Niger).

    ·         Kel Ayr; Assode, Agadez, In Gal, Timia and Ifrwan.

    ·         Kel Gres: Zinder and Tanut (Tanout) and south into northern Nigeria.

    ·         Kel Owey: Air Massif, seasonally south to Tessaoua (Niger)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuareg_people

     

     

     

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    AMAZIGH Names~ What They Call Themselves …

     

    According to Script Past & Present

     

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    https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=909562

    Tuareg chief Moussa Ag Amastan arriving in Paris, 1910

     

    *Note: This Touareg Leader's name reflects a common word 'AG' included in many Berber/Tuareg names

     

     

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    By H. Grobe - Own work, CC BY-SA 3.0, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=13278213

    Tuareg in Mali, 1974

     

    *My Note: Note the blue dye on the skin. Although modern scholars mostly place the Tuareg/Amazigh people in the continent of Africa, however, they deliberately BLACKOUT obvious history of many of the ancestors of these same people who also came from the East World too. In fact, one of their dominant symbolism that regards their clothes and especially their turbans of which they dye BLUE marks a historical presence in ancient India at the dawn of post-flood civilizations. India art works is flooded with this BLUE/BLACK THEME of early Black peoples of ancient India. And then thousands of years later, in Central Asia and the Far East, these Black or Brown skinned 'Afro-Asiatics were a dominant part of these countries and well scripted. During the AD 1300s through the AD 1500s, many of them migrated to the western world of North Africa and became a part of the Arab forces in Spain. However, modern scholars do not go back behind this date and times of the Arab Expansion period but only define them based on their partial history in Ancient Egypt. 

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    So, here are some photos of modern-day peoples defined by ‘exonyms’ [Names that other people define them as being] and also ‘endonyms’ [Names that they call themselves] from the past and present. Now, I would like to preview this and say that because their history shows they were a people that formed confederacies and also many cultures reflect an intermixed people, therefore, the names used today do not necessarily define the people as a whole. Nevertheless, certain root words and names mark their history and connects to the very distant past. And, I would also like to preview this research and also say that when Black African people make the mistake and define ancient White peoples and civilizations by certain terminology without understanding how they descended from Black origins, then they (we) will not be able to discern the whole truth. More importantly, when African Americans dismiss the fact that all ancient script stems from Black civilizations and, forgo and do not search for the origins of words in how they were used and transitioned from past to present, the truth will become a confusion. Therefore, in order for a connection to be made in this research, I will use ancient script references from secular sources and also from Biblical sources. I have chosen to highlight the term “Amazigh” and also The ‘TUAREG’ peoples as it applies to our modern times and then make some connections to the past, because, due to our streamlined educational system and due to the corruption (Separation) of Church and State, therefore some of the ancient terms may seem odd. Again, the Amazigh peoples today reflect a very large history of confederacy and intermixed peoples, one that also includes the significant presence of the Original ancient Hebrew Israelites and Jews. And so, if the ancient names and origins of the Amazigh and certain other African-typed people cannot be understood, well then, the presence of the Biblical Israelites and other descendants of the Biblical Shem, Ham, JapHeth and Canaan, will also never be completely understood and will continue to be a total confusion for us today.

     

    Another crucial aspect of ancient script-form that absolutely continues to be a vital feature of some words today would be that deeper meanings are revealed in the reverse form of certain root words and also phrases. For ancient scribes and people that understood script, this script-reverse format was a common way to read and write. Unless specific words are not understood in their ‘reverse-format’ the Bible will never be understood because that becomes one major feature of the Biblical scriptures and this came to be one method, amongst others, in which the Bible was sealed-up until after the Crucifixion. So, today we are not made to recognize how many ancient script-forms and alphabets are connected and transitioned, but it has become a fascination for me. I can understand how the Sogdian script was taken to the east world and how it was transliterated, eventually, the script ‘characters’ were written from the top to the bottom and in vertical columns. I can see a similarity in the Hungarian script form and the Turkic script form. In some ancient scripts, words are reversed, in others the very letters are flipped and reversed, and in some scripts every other line has been reversed and etc. And, I can recognize how deceptive todays’ scholars define the ancient Black-Babylonian Cuneiform script form as being the Assyrian script. For thousands of years and even after script forms have been varied and transliterated to interpret one language script form to another, certain root words have retained their deeper meanings throughout times and, I have been studying this aspect of root words for over twenty years. So, for me, when I read some words, I simultaneously recognize their deeper meaning and I also recognize their reverse format, and this would be a little what I would like to share today.

     

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    Berber

    PEOPLE

    WRITTEN BY:

    Michael Brett

    Berber, self-name Amazigh, plural Imazighen, any of the descendants of the pre-Arab inhabitants of North Africa. The Berbers live in scattered communities across Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Libya, Egypt, Mali, Niger, and Mauritania. They speak various Amazigh languages belonging to the Afro-Asiatic family related to ancient Egyptian.

    https://www.britannica.com/topic/Berber

     

     

    The Tuareg language is a southern Berber language having several dialects among the different regions. Berber is an Afro-Asiatic language closely related to Egyptian and Semitic-Canaanite languages.

    https://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Tuareg

     

    History of the Tuareg

    …The Tuareg nation has also been linked to the ancient Egyptian in recent research.

    https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/who-are-the-tuareg-people-of-the-sahara.html

     

    Ethnic Classification

    The Tuareg are classified as a Berber group, and are closely related to both Northwest African Berbers and West Africans in terms of culture and race. They do not have Arabic ethnicity.

    https://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Tuareg

     

    Estevanico Facts

    Estevanico (1500?-1539), often called [“] the Black, [”] was a Moroccan slave who accompanied Cabeza de Vaca on his odyssey through the southwestern United States. His visit to the [“] Seven Cities of Cibola [”] preceded that of Coronado.

    https://biography.yourdictionary.com/estevanico

     

     

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    A SLAVE

    By Tropenmuseum, part of the National Museum of World Cultures, CC BY-SA 3.0,

    https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=20357339

    Bellah constitute the historic slave strata within Tuareg society.[59]

     

     

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    By Cap Djinet - Own work, CC BY-SA 3.0, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=26188521

    Tuareg singer Athmane Bali from Djanet, Algeria

     

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    By Alfred Weidinger from Vienna, Austria - Touaregs at the Festival au Desert near Timbuktu, Mali 2012Uploaded by Tomer T, CC BY 2.0, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=18703528

    Tuaregs at the January 2012 Festival au Désert in Timbuktu, just before the MNLA launched the Azawadi rebellion later in the same month

     


  9. BRIDGING THE GAP of Black ‘African’ History Past & Present

     

     

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    Okay, so I am going to share some references about the dates and times when the Exodus was written to have occurred that may help to ‘Bridge the Gap’ between descriptive terms today and yesterday used to mark this historical account that may better help to understand the truth amongst a lot of confusion. Although the whole truth may not be understood immediately, however, hopefully by sharing secular references along with Biblical references about two subjects discussed in this thread and another thread, the Exodus and Amazigh, other truths may be obtained about ancient Black ‘African’ History and cultures. I look forward to debate and discussion, however, while there may be doubt at first in what I share briefly, please give me a chance to explain some topics in more depth, by and by, that may seem strange initially. My research shows me that there has been a deliberately movement at the beginning of the Colonial governments in Europe to misalign certain dates and times that regard ancient Egyptian history and this movement was extensive, but however, not impossible to recognize. So, maybe that would be one major reason, some people do not give much credit to the Biblical scripts about certain events that were written to have happened in Africa; ancient Egypt. So, I will briefly start off by dealing with this issue. Even though many scholars today say that the dates are off, however, they know that they will not be able to convince the lawmakers to address this issue for certain political reasons. So, in my opinion, it would be fruitless to believe that the western big governments will address this issue correctly, however, if the masses of lower class Americans do not make any attempt to understand truth, we will never have a significant voice to address issues that may help humanity. If, dates and times were indeed changed by Big Government in order to confuse the poor and oppress, then obviously it was done for some kind of gain. Therefore, the truth about the past in ancient Africa would be a benefit that could mean a better way to exist for everybody of all walks of life. Anyway, I will start out with a general preview and references about the historical account of the Exodus and Passover Week, and hope to later share more references to support my statements.

     

    Firstly, due to the movie that I grew up watching every spring during Eastertime about the Exodus that was produced by Cecille B. DeMille called The Ten Commandments and starring the late Charleston Heston and the late Yule Brenner, I was made to believe that these big time TV Idols would not lie, so this account must be true. What makes matters worse would be that the Black Christians accepted this film as being truth, so much so, that years later another major film production was made along these same timelines, so I’ve been told. Nevertheless, to abruptly start off with a general statement that will hopefully show this account could not possibly be truth as it had been written down in scripture and secular text. If anyone had chosen to have at least read the ancient documents, the films reflect a major contradiction. Charleston Heston was in conflict with the pharaoh Rameses II but based on all ancient accounts this could not possibly be. The ancient Egyptian records agree with modern archeology as well in that Rameses II could not possibly be the pharaoh subjected to a series of plagues, but however, the records today match the Egyptian records and well as other ancient civilizations about a time of great plagues. Therefore, it becomes obvious that Moses conflicted with the government of the 18th Dynasty pharaoh and rulers of the Thutmosis line!—Which was the very name given to ‘Moses-the-Hebrew’!

     

    So therefore, because the Israelites were written to be in Egypt for more than 400 years, then they would have been under ‘hard bondage’ under the 18th Dynasty Thutmosis system mostly. For this reason, it would be beneficial to study this historical time period in ancient Africa. Secular records show that these Thutmosis kings were absolutely not the Original Egyptians, but however, they were Aegyptos! Thutmosis I, married into the original line and adopted their name ‘MOSES’ [ie Mosis]. Furthermore, a closer look at the secular books and Egyptian scripts shows that, not only were these Thutmosis pharaohs well documented, they also had dominant names that reflect their connection to the Biblical Magog. The 18th Dynasty were MAGOGS. And, as the Biblical records also show, the adoptive mother of Moses later married into the Hebrew tribe of Judah and had four sons, and like her, the Hebrew Israelites did intermix with these Magogs in ancient times, as it was directed by the Creator. History shows at times, the Israelites violently conflicted with the many different kinds of Egyptians but at times they were at peace and they intermixed, but because of our modern day education and experiences, this idea may seem strange. The Bible records show how the Creator loathed the original Magog cultures for specific reasons, but at times, the Bible shows that the Creator honored the combined interrelations of Israel and the Magogs, but because we have been educated  to NOT recognize these crucial aspects of how ancient and original Black ‘African-typed’ people interreacted over thousands and thousands of years, many of us have just simply rejected major historical aspects of African History. We were not all from the same origins and cultures. And, it would be crazy to ignore some of the core issues with the original Magog cultures because it was extremely debased. This information will surface sooner or later anyway, but hopefully soon enough to help humanity.

     

    The Creator used all of the Original ‘African’ peoples, cultures and civilizations [ie Original Sheth] and intertwined them at times, one with each other as a part of his masterplan to correct Black Hatred. If some cultures were too perverse, well, they had to be judged based on this score, and according to scripture, however, we have been misled to interpret this as 'God' killing off all Magogs. Some original people may have lost their government, specific culture, or individuals, but their origins and their genetic mark will never be erased. However, because of a deliberate movement of deception, we have been made to believe in many lies. We need to go back and relook at ancient scripts.

     

    Without understanding modern peoples that at one distant time were connected and defined by certain root names, without an adequate interpretation and transliteration of ancient descriptive terms into modern terms, and without understanding specific reasons behind some major Old-World conflicts, negative history will continue to repeat itself.

    So, ultimately, if the dates are times were aligned correctly, it will become evident that the very pharaoh that Moses conflicted with was a young puppet king --- yeah--- named KING TUTANKHAMEN [ie Tutankhaten]. During the 1920s and around that time archeologist seemed to be obssessed with digging up the ancient world and it was during these times that they confirmed what they already well knew in many ancient script forms. The Egyptian records and artworks are extremely detailed and todays' scholars know very well, that it was not RAmeses II, or Tutmosis III, the warrior pharoah, or anyother pharaoh but King Tut that aligns with the Biblical account of the Exodus. So not only do terms need to be translated properly, but the dates and times need to be re-aligned correctly as well.

     

    P.S. Oops. The time span give by scholars today would be the 1300s BC, but this is so, not true. 

    One process in getting at the correct dates and times in correlation to our modern Calendar system would be, 

    guess what!? The answer: the Star of Bethlehem, that marked a major epoch. Also, going back before the Exodus, 

    it would be a very catastrophic event that helps to synchronize time and show the correct dates for the historical 

    times of the 18th Dynasty, and other major events such as the later events that surround Rameses II and the 

    Fall of Troy VII and etc. This event occurred in the 1600s BC and it was the MASSIVE EXPLOSION ON

    THE ISLE OF CRETE. this event has also been somewhat misaligned but many scholars do reveal this more so.

    This explosion sparked the ending and beginning of several civilizations at that time and marks the very beginning of the

    18th Dynasty. 

     

     


  10. On 9/16/2019 at 3:40 PM, Maurice said:

    Another film on Netflix. Haven't seen it yet.

     

    WOW! I will have to get my mind right to watch this.

    I remember when I worked at a shipyard, how some of the men told me to look at certain areas, and THERE in plain sight were gigantic metal signs still propped up

    or leaning in corners that read WHITE'S ONLY and COLOREDS ONLY. I was so stunned.

    some of the men were older and said that they remember how it was in those days. 

    I heard a lot of stories... about those times but now, it seems like we have reversed and are back to those very days.

    Anyway, thank you for posting this.

     

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  11. 18 hours ago, Kareem said:

    Instead of improving ourselves, we pick a master (liberals or the Trumps) and try to be the best slave possible. That means alphabet-cooning for liberals and shoulder-monkey-cooning for Trump. Those who don't succeed at one of those end up in prison and drinking 40s in front of the liquor store. The remaining 20-25% (you, I, Troy, Chev, etc.) are going to be extinct by 2050. I've maintained that forever. The black man and woman in the USA will not exist in 30 years. This was the white imperial plan since 1619 and its come to fruition.

     

     

    @Kareem This is so scary, but right now, I just can't stop trying, no matter what. I am still in complete shock about this homosexual-pediphilia law. I can't believe it.

    They have put that law 'through us', as if we had something to do with it. I can't believe it.

     

     

    18 hours ago, Kareem said:

    Hell, when I first saw Boyz in the Hood and Menace 2 Society, that shit shocked me. I'd never seen anything like that in real life.

     

    Yes, me too, but I soon came to realize that some of these rich and famous rappers did experience some of what was put in film and this too, is strange to me. OUr system seems to seek out aggressive ADOS who have been severely victimized and then elevate them and give them 'a voice' and then, propagandize them globally. Some of them will later, try to turn back and show a better 'face' but by this time, it seems, the White Supremacist Movement has achieved what they wanted, in that many foreign people are encouraged to believe that ALL OF US over hear are saggin LGBT etc. etc. etc. That is what it seems like to me--victim exploitation elevated to highlight low standards and then define the whole culture. I feel we are being railroaded. But, I don't feel it is over though.

     

    SAGGIN---NIGGAS--- read in reverse script form please. 

     

    smh.

     

    18 hours ago, Kareem said:

    When I started trying to "talk black" after seeing those films as a kid, my dad and uncles beat my ass!

     

    Lol! I had no choice, I went to an HBCU, so I had to pick up some of my peoples' 'second lango'. It was hard though, coming from my northern "Mister Rogers Neighborhood' where I sounded like a proper European American girl. My girlfriends--- or friend girls-- gave me a really hard time. 

     

    18 hours ago, Kareem said:

    I'm going to be so sad when Minister Farrakhan passes away. He's the last of the true black power movement. the destruction of black America will accelerate quickly thereafter. That and the fake preachers like Creflo Dollar, Sharpton and Jakes will keep flying around in private jets preaching fear and submissiveness to poor black folks.

     

    Now I'm feeling depressed!

     

    Me too! This is sad. But, as I said, it's impossible for me, for now, to stop thinking and doing... something. 

     


  12. 2 hours ago, Troy said:

    People who believe in white supremacy are either ignorant or dumb.

     

    LOL! Okay. Oh well. I guess I'll be okay, because I've been called ignorant and dumb and some other names too. @Troy

     

    13 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

     

    If I'm not mistaken I don't believe he was refering to a rapper.
    Wakanda is the fictional (?) African nation that the movie Black Panther was based around.
    I'm assuming you heard about it even if you didn't see it.

     

    Thank you @Pioneer1 for explaining this! I've been told that the movie was good but I've not seen it yet.

    I remember hearing the awards show and, I think, Spike Lee was upset over how it went.

     

    13 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

    You took the words right out of my mouth.
    Nipsey is just THIS generation's "wanna be" version of a Tupac because of all the hype Tupac got 20 years ago, this generation felt left out and needed a "down nigga" to believe in too.

     

    Well, I never heard of him too, but I believe that was engineered. So, I hope you realize the political aspect too. HIs music was rough, but amazing.

    I don't believe it was his music that became important, but it was the fact that he was part-African--East African--from the Horn of Africa--from ERITREA and 

    he met the president of Eritrea and well, UH, the president was speaking to him about 'economics, politics', and business deals' and this was his whole entire

    theme for all of his music. --GETTING RID OF THE MIDDLE MAN-- 

    He was uneducated and a high school drop out, was in a gang, and struggled to survive. Again, I never hear of him either until he died, but he was amazing, in his efforts.

    He even alluded to issues though, that he may have regretted about Black-on-Black violence. 

    He convince a prominent person from the other gang to work with him in stopping gang violence. 

     

     

    13 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

    .look at the Native Americans.

     

    The Native Americans are not gone.

     

    13 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

    perhaps AfroAmericans NEED to "thin the herd" and get rid of the dead weight holding our community back.

     

    We don't need to do that. 

    13 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

    Brother if you knew the REAL reason Trump was PUT in office for this day and time, you wouldn't be depressed....lol.
    You would be saying to yourself, "Well it's about time!"

    I'll leave it at that.

     

    No don't leave it at that. LOL. I want to know. @Pioneer1

    13 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

    they are PRETENDING to be poor and oppressed in order to trick people and DECEIVE people.

     

    Hilarious! Oh but no, when it comes to the bigger picture, there are a lot of people on the bottom, however, I am so swamped in my being oppressed as an ADOS, I can barely address anything else!

     

    But you made me remember one night my husband 'went-off' on this White man who rolled up to him at the gas pump soliciting him for money...I was so angry and embarrassed, but he got back in the car and reminded me that man and his brother are all over the area and he said to me, "Do you see that expensive electric wheel chair he's in? Can you even get welfare? Do you see how clean his clothes were?... I've seen the brothers all over the city and it's very large city, but it's hard for me to not give.

    My son cracks me up too, about both Black men and White. One time he said, he gave  a dollar's worth of change to 'a brotha' and he said, after he turned and walked away, her heard the change clinging on the ground. The man cussed him out and told him that was not enough...

    Then he said, Mom look, that White guy panning by this airport will cuss you out, if you don't give him what he thinks he should have...

     

    some people...

     

     

    13 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

    Lol......
    Well, if you notice it's only been WOMEN who have chosen to leave

     

    Wait-a-minute! ... a plus, there are other women that pop in from time to time.

     

     

     

     


  13. On 9/15/2019 at 10:36 PM, Pioneer1 said:

    That was some powerful information you dropped right there.
    It's gonna take me a while to digest it.
    Especially what you said about Adam.

     

    Well okay! Thank you!

    On 9/15/2019 at 10:36 PM, Pioneer1 said:

    There are some who say that the ziggurats, like the pyramids of Kemet and the Americas...were used by flying ships and aircraft based on ancient technology.

     

     Well, yes, I heard that too. And, I have heard about how African hair type was applied to rocket technology and also car engines, as being a part of coolant systems.

    And, I have heard about ancient about ziggurats and pyramids construction became correlated to sound waves and etc.

    On 9/17/2019 at 2:37 PM, Kareem said:

    up in here writing books and breaking down history! Great info.

     

    Thank you!!!

     


  14. On 9/15/2019 at 10:26 PM, Pioneer1 said:

    'm sure you've heard of the famous European psychologists Carl Jung and Sigmund Freud.

     These famous psychologists analyzed thousands of people and noticed that most people they came across (Europeans) shared similar thought patters and behaviors that WERE NOT TAUGHT to them but seemed to have developed naturally with no explaination.

     

    Okay, WHEW! It was difficult for me to get through all of this.

    Yes, I have heard of the psychologists and have studied about them in college, but no, this is not what I remember ever being said!

    Just because a group have or share similar thought patterns and behaviors that were not taught, does not equate to them having this in their genes.

     

    NOw, I do think about certain issues concerning pre-hominids though, having collective behavior patterns that are distinct from modern manking, but again, even in this, at one point in a distant time, it was based on 'free choice'. 

     

     


  15. On 9/15/2019 at 9:53 PM, Pioneer1 said:

    No sis!
    Moses (Musa) didn't go DOWN TO Egypt but came UP FROM Egypt!
    He was sent up from Kemet to central/west Asia to liberate the wild tribes who dwelled there of their savagery.

     

    @Pioneer1 LOL! You are trippin!

     

    No dates! No references! You just making up stuff.

     

    The country that you are referring too, Central and West Asia is not historically marked by the presence and dominance of Caucasians at that time.

    At that time when Moses was dated to have lived, the more dominant civilizations in the Steppes was the Russian Steppe during the Bronze Age.

    At the historical time that Moses was marked to live, one of the civilizations that became dominant was the Hittite/Hurrians in Central Turkey.

    Prior to this time, parts of the northern worlds did have civilizations and developed the 'horse and chariots' that were traded down in Egypt.

    The 2 major civilizations in India collapsed 400+ years before Moses' time, and at this time, the Cholchians had already made history as many 

    of them were a part of ancient India and Cush-Babylon [Greater Babylon].

    But more specifically, the Cholchians/Caucasians (original Caucasians) were well developed in West Turkey, Iberian Peninsula, and yes, parts of 

    West Asia mountain areas. 

     

    I agree that there were 'wild' people in the world at this time, but it was not just Caucasians (white).

     

    You are way off.

     

    But, I too, am not dropping any references for now, but hopefully, I will.

     


  16. 9 hours ago, Maurice said:

    Only found about this Netflix documentary. Watching it right now. Saw the trailer first on You Tube and read some fairly strong comments there amongst others.

     

    Wow! I'm interested.

    I saw Tiffany Hadish in the trailer and that is also interesting.

    I don't have any ideal how to get Neflix though.

    Chelsea is humorous and brave. 

     

     

    I had to watch the trailer again. She said that she got caught with a 'dime bag' on her three fricking times and everytime, they arrested her boyfriend who is Black WTF!

    Man! 

     


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    ENKUTATASH NEW YEAR FESTIVAL—SEPTEMBER 2019

     

    This Historic Friday 13th ~ The Real BLACK FRIDAY

     

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    The Enkutatash, Ethiopian—HEBREW ISRAELITE Festival marks the ancient PASSOVER FESTIVAL WEEK that was instituted during the lifetime of Moses and almost 3500 years ago when the Israelites marched out of Egypt and detailed in the book of EXODUS. And what makes this year so interesting would be due to this week of which includes Friday 13th, a day marked in the Bible as being the last plague, the Destroyer Angel. So although most internet articles respond to the question about the real origin of the mystery that surrounds this unlucky day and never state the truth, because of the detailed description of this Biblical account, therefore, it would be impossible for scholars to not know this truth.

     

    Today, the Passover Festival of ‘the Unleavened Bread’ would be celebrated as Holy Communion by most Christians due to the account of ‘the Last Supper’ in which Jesus ‘amended’ this observance. But even still, this New Years Day in September was instituted to be observed forever. Therefore, the Ethiopian Jews and Israelites have continued to observe their new year in the month of September. In addition, because of the Lunar-Solar Calendar that becomes the guide for when this New Year is celebrated, the days vary during these modern times, but even in ancient times, the Passover Week varied, however, based on a lunar Calendar. So therefore, today, the New Year began on September 12, 2019, but in the Bible times, it was always on the 14th day of the month of either September or October based upon the leap year. At any rate, Happy New Year!

     

     

    ENKUTATASH: A Fresh Start in September!

    Ever since 2001, when two planes crashed into the Twin Towers of the World Trade Centre in New York, a gloomy shadow has been draped over September 11th on the calendar. But while the date has become a dark reminder of the gruesome assault of global terrorism, it marks the beginning of a new dawn and the celebration of an exciting festival that traces its origin to biblical times.

     

    Enkutatash: The Gift of a New Year

    http://afrotourism.com/travelogue/festival-enkutatash-ethiopia/

     


  18. On 9/12/2019 at 1:21 PM, Kareem said:

    My family and I all live by a code - NO TELEVISIONS in our homes. That is probably the most destructive and powerful tools the imperialist have. I've never seen one episode of Empire, Black-ish, American Idol or whatever else comes on TV. There are far better uses of time.

     

    @Kareem WOW That's amazing.

     

    Presently, I don't have a TV, but the internet seems to be much more damaging, and I see it as a step from TV.

    I monitored what my kids watched when they were in my home, but I lost the battle when the internet came along.

    I too, have never seen an episode of Empire or Black-ish, and certain other recent shows. I've researched 

    Black-ish and seen a partial episode, and it doesn't seem all that great to me, so I do not understand why it would

    be given awards.

    I was never an avid tv person anyway, but again, this internet seems much worse.

     


  19. 13 hours ago, Kareem said:

    But they'll steal from their own too, as demonstrated by the term "Caucasian."

     

    @Kareem I absolutely agree! I love what you wrote about Michael Bolton! 

     

    11 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

    OK.....now I think we're narrowing things down and getting somewhere.

     

     @Pioneer1 I hope so! LOL.

    And, I appreciate your sources, and let me bring out some debate points:

     

    Now what was the EXACT name these original dark skinned peoples living in the area called?
    I'm sure it wasn't just "Cauca"...so what was THEIR name? As I have said, it was COLCHIAN, and the Biblical Magog would be a start point, but there are so many more script variations of th

    ese names that were used in ancient times. But specifically, I asked you

     

    OF WHOM DID THE WHITE 'CAUCASIANS' DESCEND FROM!? They did not just appear WHITE!!! These White people, CAUCASIANS, have sex and reproduce, likewise, they are hear today based upon SOMEONE having sex and eventually giving birth to their presence! 

     

    You wrote: "I came to my conclusions of them not being from there but having been SENT there along with other darker peoples to guard and keep the Caucasians contained in the region from a NUMBER of sources, among them are:
    In Herodotus Histories Book 2 we read: the Colchians remembered the Egyptians better than the Egyptians remembered the Colchians; the
     Egyptians said that they held the Colchians to be part of Sesostris' army." 

     

    I have read this too!!! What you are not recognizing is that HERODOTUS is making a distinction between the EGYPTIANS and THE COLCHIANS!!! As I said, the Colchians were AEGYTPOS! They are not the Orginal Egyptians! This is what Herodotus means when he says that the Colchians remembered the Egyptians better than the Egyptians remembered them! 

     

    Sesostris is what I was directly speaking about! He is the 12th Dynasty Pharaoh that colonized Russia! He is the one that caused many COLCHIANS to migrate down into Egypt!!!--to become apart of his army! Yes, now we are getting somewhere! We are narrowing this history down.

     

    " ... guards to keep the wild Caucasians concealed in West Asia (where the Caucasus mountains are located)."

     

    West Asia is not, nor ever, was considered to be WEST ASIA. The CAUCASUS It is directionally defined as THE NORTHEAST. West Asia would be defined as PERSIA [ie IRAN] and ARMENIA and etc. The borderlands though define history that includes mountain ranges that border the Caucasus mountains.  

    Also WEST ASIA is absolutely NOT Europe! the term EURASIA defines both Europe and Asia. 

     

    "Now this from Nation of Islam theology supports what you said that the original people were already there; but it also supports what I said about them being guards to keep the wild Caucasians concealed in West Asia (where the Caucasus mountains are located)."

     

    This would be impossible. Even before Sesostris time, Cholchians were migrating everywhere. Sesostris just marks a movement in that he colonized ancient Russia, and at this time many Colchians became apart of Egypt. 

     

    "Calling the Colchians the "original Caucasians" would be like calling the Hopi nation the "original Arizonans" or the Lenape nation the "original New Yorkers"."


    "I'm not exactly sure what the origins of the word "Amazigh" is but "Berber" came from a Greek term used for people who didn't speak Greek which pretty much means barbarian."
     

    Well, because of the intense history brought out about them, the term Caucasian can definitely be applied to the Colchians. I absolutely understand what you mean though, but again, their history has been well tract during ancient times, so therefore, the term does apply to them, the Colchians. They were very aggressive and dominant. Just as you wrote about the term 'Original Greeks' being wrong, this is because, today, a good connection has not been made of their transitional history of who they came to take over the land of the original people, but the Colchians have been well tract. The history is their though, about how the Classical Greeks took over and the earlier people from whom the Arabs came from, but it is not well brought out today. 

     

    Yes, I understand that this term BERBER refers to BARBARIAN but that is not the original meaning! The term BERBER has been corrupted by the GREEKS!!!

    The term BERBER contains the very root word of one main adjective and description of the Original people of the land of Europe and Eurasia!!!

     

    ***** IBERIA----SIBERIA----LIBERIA---THE IBERIAN PENINSULA [Russia]--- the IBERIANS of Spain and Portugal****

    The older term  for the continent of EUROPE was BEREA--------- And this term originally did not mean Barbarian, but it meant FRUITFUL!!!

    The term BEREA refers to A FRUITFUL LAND, as in the word BERRY. It defines the Fruitful land of Shem.  

    And this was a main name later, given to the descendants of Joseph--EPHRAIM-- the BARIAHS-- ANd Ephraim is a fruitful bow...

     

    As I said, the English language is suspect, and this is why it was written in scripture that words have a deeper meaning that we must research in order to get to the origin or as far back as we can to get a fuller meaning. We cannot supercede the lies and deceit if we don't go back over script and get the earlier meanings of which will help us to better understand how we have been deceived and dumbed down. 

     

    "Now what do you mean by the "original Seth" people?
    Lol, if Adam (the archetypical white man) wasn't original....how could his son Seth be?"

     

    Now @Pioneer1 If you were correct about Adam being White then, this would contradict all science and that 'afro' that most Africans grow out of their heads. I've already broken this DNA down and it applies directly to the timespan that Adam was created. Even if you ask the African leaders and scholars over their in the African continent today, to confirm that in their lands, in their caves, and ancient ROCK ART, you will find NO primitive or ancient humans depicted with AFROES, or as Herodotus said, WOOLY HAIR, or no BUSHY HAIR... Adam is the scientific marker for THE AFRO!!! HE WAS NOT WHITE!!! 

    So, likewise the name of SETH does not mean WHITE but guess what 'WASET' does!!! LOL! 

     

    The ancient Egyptian term WASET does mean WHITE SETH!!! But the term Seth or Sety or Suti or SOUTHWORLD... refers to the ancient Seth people!!!

    The Egyptian god, and enemy of Osiris SETH, the BLACK PIG, in ancient script refers to THE ORIGINAL BLACK AFRICANS and Nodeastern peoples of this world!!!

    This term SETH would be the more correct term to define the AMAZIGH, and the CHOLCHIANS being woolly haired people from the east, and so many of Black or dark skinned peoples of the northeast world and etc.

     

    Now, I have 'inverted' some terms, like ZIGGY---GIZA---ZIGGURAT, in another thread to show that the words are actually the key to their original meanings, and likewise, I plan to do that some more to further reveal some deeper meanings that have been hidden from us today. This is the very reason why I paused for months on certain other topics, in order bring out this aspect of 'hiding ancient history right in front of our faces'.

     

     

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  20. 9 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

    The word "predisposed" means born more likely to be or born inclined towards something.

    A baby isn't BORN a man.....but if he's male then he is PREDISPOSED to being a man.
    A baby girl is born PREDISPOSED to becoming a woman.

     

    @Pioneer1 okay, thank you for the definition! I was not responding with this understanding, but after I signed off, I realized I was thinking wrong.

    Still though, I don't believe that White people, 'Caucasians' are born with this instinct.

    They would have to be introduced to it.

     

    9 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

    You said you don't believe that White people can be born racist; but have you ever heard of something called a COLLECTIVE RACIAL MEMORY?

    What about the term COLLECTIVE UNCONSCIOUS, ever heard of that before?

     

    No, I have not.

    Can you expound upon this?

     

    LIke I said, too, these ideas can be equaled with the notion that Black people are born to be 2/3rds of a person, of which I do not believe.

    Because these Inferiority-superiorty complexes that the world does express through racism, I believe that we humans are being guided into these areas.

    Black people are being DUMBED DOWN FROM BIRTH, but as long as we are born healthy, we are born with the POTENTIAL to exceed highly in the areas of intellect

    no matter what color we express. 

     

    I love the example that you used to describe 'being born a boy or a girl being predisposed to developing in that way--of birth'.

     

     

     

     


  21. On 9/10/2019 at 9:42 PM, Pioneer1 said:

    This "educated" negro has to beg some half-educated poor white man in a t-shirt and raggedy jeans to come  to his house and fix his driveway or he'll end up begging ANOTHER half-educated white man with confederate flag tattoos all over his damn arms to fix the damage to his car caused by the pot hole....LOL.

     

    @Pioneer1 Yes, that is true but to a point. Other kinds of people had these trade skills too, but the numbers are shrinking.

     

     

    On 9/10/2019 at 9:42 PM, Pioneer1 said:

    All of this "IT" and computer programming garbage so many of our people are going to college for is a real waste of time in my opinion.  It's for people who ALREADY have a well established society and are now focused on having fun and fine tuning it.

    The average AfroAmerican with a Master's degree has $50,000 worth of student loan debt and can even grow a tomato or fix a pothole in his driveway.

     

    Yes, this is true too, but to a point.

    Another option would be to obtain a full scholarship!

    However, no matter what, whether we are educated in the area of IT or Engineering or trade, the system controls most of it right now, but that still does not mean 

    that we should not be educated in all areas. We need Black Americans in the IT field!

    We need African Americans in Engineering and in trade skills.

     


  22. On 9/8/2019 at 7:31 PM, Pioneer1 said:

    You said the original Greek were Black.
    I said no...the original people who INHABITED the land we now call Greece were Black, but the original GREEKS were Caucasian.

     

    @Pioneer1 Yes, I absolutely agree, but there is a connection too, and although I did use the wrong term, I used it loosely. Because, today, there is not a general term used to define the original people of the land of Greece today.

     

    On 9/8/2019 at 7:31 PM, Pioneer1 said:

    Just like the original people who inhabited Arabia were Black but the original Arabs were Caucasian.

     

    Again, yes, I agree.

     

    On 9/8/2019 at 7:31 PM, Pioneer1 said:

    's the same here.
    The original people who inhabited the Caucasus mountains were indeed Black people, but the original CAUCASIANS were not Black but what we call "White" or Caucasian.

     

    Now here is where I completely disagree! If it were not for the intense information put out about these ancient CAUCASIANS, I could understand what you say. 

    Because of the amount of energy put out in exposing these ORIGINAL CAUCASIANS, I can see where they were indeed dark skinned people known by this term, or least the root term "CAUCA".

     

    You said; "According to Nation of Islam terminology the term "Caucasian" means pale, weak blooded, and weak boned...that doesn't sound like African peoples."

     

    The Nation of Islam is perhaps getting their information from these modern times. So whether or not the term 'CAUCASIAN' or even 'CAUCASOID' today means White skinned or pale skinned, it did not mean this in its origin.  

     

    "And although the Cholchians were indeed Africans from Kemet, they weren't the ancient Blacks of that land. The Cholchians were the "watchers" who were sent from Kemet to help keep the Caucasians contained in that region and make sure they didn't get out."

     

    Now here you go, saying something that is not backed up by any valid script references. The Cholchians were indeed 'African-typed' but they are not originally from Kemet on thier MALE LINEAGE. The book Black Spark, White Fire, is just one sorce that tells of their Northeastern origins. The Cholchians would be a better term to define the ORIGINAL CAUCASIANS, but nonetheless, both terms define the same people with the same origins.  Many other sources state that the 12th Dynasty Egyptian pharaoh, colonized the northeast and he interacted with the Cholchians in Iberia. After this time, the Cholchians migrated down into Egypt and became apart of Egyptian history as a significant presence in Egypt. THE SECOND BRONZE AGE TIME SPAN.

     

    On 9/8/2019 at 7:31 PM, Pioneer1 said:


    I think you're wrong about the Amazigh and Berbers.
    The Amazigh and Berbers like the Arabs of today have African ancestry NOW......but originally they were Caucasians. They just got their African ancestry from conquering and being conquered and mixing in.

     

     

    No, both terms AMAZIGH and BERBER signify 'African-typed' people, but NOT HAMITIC Male line. The proper term would be KHETY or Semitic, based on their specific origins. I believe they were a confederation of people but their beginning would be Original Seth people, nonetheless and, again, this word Caucasian is the confusion. Because, @Pioneer1 please tell me of whom did the CAUCASIANS originate since you believe that they were originally White?

     

    Who did the CAUCASIANS originate from?

    Modern scholars coined this phrase 'Caucasian' and redefined it as being PURE WHITE RACE, but this is even admitted today, that this cannot be correct.

     

    Anyway, I look forward to your response, and will also add some references in a new thread perhaps to delve into this modern day confusion of the term

     

    *Original Caucasians.

     

     


  23. On 9/10/2019 at 9:12 PM, Pioneer1 said:

    I think I DO understand the origin.
    And I'm trying to get YOU to understand too, but I don't think you want to hear it...LOL.

     

    @Pioneer1 LOL! I do want to hear--the truth! 

    On 9/10/2019 at 9:12 PM, Pioneer1 said:


    In other words......
    If a child is born predisposed to a low intellect

     

    LOL! No no no! The word 'predisposed' is totally different from someone being born MENTALLY RETARDED. 

    On 9/10/2019 at 9:12 PM, Pioneer1 said:

    if a person is born predisposed to being a racist then no matter

     

    Okay, this is what you wrote: "if a person is born predisposed to being a racist then no matter..."

     

    This is what I did say. Predisposed means that they were introduced to racism, so if this is true, then yes, they would exhibit this behavior.

    Racism is taught. Racism is not genetics.

    If a person is born, dark skinned, they don't eventually believe that they are inferior to lighter skinned people and likewise, if a person is born White, the don't eventually believe that they are superior to dark skinned people. All of this Colorism and White Supremacy has an origin.

     

     

    On 9/10/2019 at 9:12 PM, Pioneer1 said:

    Ashamed?????
    Why would her parents be ashamed of teaching their daughter early on how to perform her duties as a White Supremist?

    Good heavens!

     

    LOL! Truth, but they still should be ashamed. 


  24. On 9/10/2019 at 10:21 PM, Pioneer1 said:

    It seems that once again, the "usual suspects" are applying their Tricknology tactics to divide, conquer, and break up the Black family.

     

    Really, ok that is sad. 

    On 9/11/2019 at 12:45 AM, Troy said:

    But im glad you'll continue to participate in #readingblack @Mel Hopkins

     

    Yeah, me too.

     

    @Mel Hopkins I am so glad that I can read you in #readingblack. 

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