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24 minutes ago, ProfD said:
Just don't fall asleep when it comes to the role they play in the maintenance of white supremacy.
Yes, you speak volumes.
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On 5/21/2022 at 7:13 PM, Mel Hopkins said:
Have any of you ever perused Stewart Synopsis? This website is one of the most detailed history of the African Diaspora I’ve seen on the internet.
I’ve never fact checked the work but it is fascinating. I think I chose the link about Africans and the bible but there is so much - much more to review.
https://stewartsynopsis.com/dogon-tribe-palestine-and-benjamin-banneker
@Mel Hopkins I scanned a little of this article and I have not, as you say fact checked all of it, but I am so astounded to read part of it because it resounds what I've said.
The original Hebrews were Ethiopians and Egyptians who left Egypt
and migrated with their caravans on foot to the land Canaan. This is
the Land of Africa where Abraham lived for 10 years and married
Hagar the Egyptian (Gen 15: 3).
Dogon Tribe, Palestine, and Benjamin Banneker (stewartsynopsis.com)
I shared this before in another thread, in that my son told me that at times in college, he had gotten so tired of Arab people thinking that he was Ethiopian or Muslim and from those regions and trying to explain to them that he was not, that he just started to answer their questions when they put a microphone up to interview him and he started commenting on the international soccer games and let them think what they wanted to believe. People from India would tell him that he looked like he was Ethiopian. People from Rwanda would tell him that he looked like he was from Tigray. People from Ethiopia will tell him that he looks like he is Habesha ... I just laugh.
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On 5/21/2022 at 4:53 PM, Stefan said:
But when it was all said and done, the primary beneficiaries of Affirmative Action turned out to NOT to be Black men and women, but White women. At least this was the case in the mid-1990's.
How many of you actually knew this?I knew this. And it is so frustrating when I hear it because so many times Black people have been sidelined by other cultures who came to America for 'a piece of the pie'. But I also think that it would be so unfair to direct anger towards White women who have benefitted due to Affirmative Action. How many White women have helped me in 'the Black plight'? Many. I have so much admiration for some of the polished, professional, and compassionate White women who have sacrificed to help me. I think while we should definitely be bold in dealing with White evils that occur in America, however, we should not ignore positive humanity that comes from many walks of life.
On 5/22/2022 at 2:46 AM, richardmurray said:Congrats to going to a HBCU.
thank you @richardmurray. It was one of the most amazing experiences of my life.
On 5/22/2022 at 2:46 AM, richardmurray said:of course black folk warrant more opportunity in the usa, considering we were not only enslaved, but that our leaders successfully guided us to be a people who in majority have bought into the myth of araciality in the usa. I don't mean that black people don't know they are black. but, most black people in the usa, based on their actions, accept the idea of a country where the individual is the standard. ... Unfortunately, while most black people have accepted a peaceful agenda in the multiracial collective that is the usa, most nonblacks, have not. ... education in a school can't undo culture or heritage learned from the home, part of the home educations.
This entire post is one of the most enriching textual comments I have ever read in a long time!
Yes, the clip of the late Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., addressing the 'Bootstrap insult to us', Ah! ... when I hear him speak, I am deeply relieved.
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3 hours ago, Stefan said:
I acknowledge that individuals have their own ideas, beliefs and theories. But unless they can be decidedly proven, they remain theories.I understand. I hope you continue to love history as I do.
Again, as @Mel Hopkinsalso comment on about the wife of Noah, I base my point on that wise too.
Kush being the start of the Black race is not true. It's not even a theory when you apply the Bible.
Again, the people of HETH is how I referred to this topic because it is the name of the son of Noah and 'Erzama's son. And his name is directly
connected to the word EGYPT [ie EGUPT, EGYPETAH...].
JAPHETH, the oldest son of Noah listed in the Bible has this name and like KUSH, CANAAN, KEMET... He was Black.
Solomon married an Egyptian queen because the Bible says that the Lord told them they could inter-mix with them after the 3rd generation of the Exodus.
Stefan, my son went against my wishes and took a DNA test when after I already told him, my ancestry. But he did it anyway and was shocked to find out, I already told him that his great-great grandmother was from that region in southern Egypt. ...
I think that many Black people like you have not understood completely about this subject, me included!
I think that we have been accused of telling fancy tales to the point we believe it. We need to re-look at history and try to confirm it as you say.
We need to take history out of the 'theory category' and confirm it or dismiss it. Anyway, thank you for your comments.
1 hour ago, Mel Hopkins said:I’ve never fact checked the work but it is fascinating.
Oh WOW this is interesting. I will read it!
I remember a little about the Dogon.
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3 hours ago, Stefan said:
Chevdove
I really admire you. But you started off basing your contention on the Bible.
Now, you want to bring in feel good stories and a bunch of findings by archaeologists, ancient historians and those who consider themselves expects on Egypt.
Thank you very much for your kind words.
I want to address your other comment; In no way am I bringing in false statements. My research is solely based on the Bible, my usage of other publications absolutely support the Bible. As a professional writer you too have to use references.
Jesus said we have to research the scriptures and the word of God says write and publish.
I addressed your statements about "anthropologist" belief on Kush being the origin of the Black race.
I used valid references to explain that cannot be true with respect to the Bible.
My reference was the Fine Arts museum and etc. and of course, those dated artifacts stem from Art Historians and more.
I do not understand why you think it is false and non-Biblical.
I use the term 'PEOPLE OF HETH' to define THE EGYPTIANS and would love to expound more since you may have miss why I used that term.
3 hours ago, Stefan said:
I never looked at ancient Egyptians as heroes. I was never that insecure. We Black people have our own heroes. And they are not Egyptian.Stefan, I am! LOL.
There is good and bad history in all of us humans, and I understand why anyone 'Black' would not like the negative aspect of Egypt.
Egyptians are not my heroes and guess what, neither are many of the evil Hebrews as well! I won't claim them either. LOL.
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On 5/19/2022 at 12:46 PM, Mel Hopkins said:
One black child is the part that cracks me up! Do you feel this is a case of colorism: light-skin vs. dark-skin.
@Mel Hopkins lol. Yes it could be.
On 5/19/2022 at 12:46 PM, Mel Hopkins said:Emzara gave birth to all of Noah's children. Further, Kush is Canaan is Kemet -KMT is Mizraim is Egypt is Ethiopia.
yes.
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On 1/25/2022 at 2:58 PM, richardmurray said:
I don't think affirmative action's role in black enrollment in colleges is as grand as some think.
This topic never really interested me until I read a post in this community last year that revolved around the late Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
I saw a video whereby Dr. King spoke about how European Americans were given 'welfare checks' and etc. after hearing his views, I apply it to this issue about Affirmative action. If other people, even immigrants are given aid to be able to be educated here in America, then certainly I think African Americans should be considered for some type of aid. However, I also think about the type of education as well that has been offered. I think, in the past, we have been given faulty education and exploited to serve the goals of this system...
I graduated from an HBCU and believe too that America's curriculum needs an overhaul in these institutions as well, otherwise the purpose of Affirmative action is not well served.
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On 2/6/2022 at 8:35 AM, Pioneer1 said:
Just dropped by to see how everyone's doing and let you know I'm still kicking.I sure hope so!
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On 2/23/2022 at 10:36 AM, ProfD said:
I do not believe a God would sanction slavery
He wouldn't; that would be a complete contradiction to the very purpose of Passover and sending Jesus.
According to the scriptures, the Hebrews were under hard bondage for 430 years with no end in sight, therefore Passover was instituted.
The Creator Passed over the sins of the Hebrews and judged the Egyptian government and released the Hebrews from this form of captivity.
Passover is the key to understanding that the Creator would never condone mankind being defined as 'a slave for life'; that is human sacrifice.
On 2/22/2022 at 9:27 PM, Addison said:subscribe to the false notion that God sanctioned slavery.
Thank you.
On 2/22/2022 at 9:27 PM, Addison said:,It is ridiculous to think that the almighty would ordain laws allowing the Hebrews to oppress other nations as they were.
Absolutely.
On 2/22/2022 at 9:27 PM, Addison said:Yet unscrupulous clergy in the past and even today corrupt the holy scripture to justify the exploitation of the Black race.
Absolutely.
White Supremacist dread the day that they will be judged and therefore insert deception to try and convince the Black race that God would condone slavery and human sacrifice and forgive them for this type of blasphemy.
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On 5/19/2022 at 9:39 AM, Stefan said:
And here is where I leave the debate which began with the Bible.
Fantasy, supposition, theories and feel-good tales are good for the soul and the ego. But I will never look to ancient Egypt for inspiration or the source of my ancestors.@Stefan And I can respect you leaving this debate on this wise, however,
because the Hebrews were enslaved in Egypt and the Bible records their plight, I strongly believe that it is vital to understand the history of Egypt as it applies to the Bible.
One of my ancestors [if not more] is from this vey land, Egypt, and like the descendants of Joseph, many Hebrews are heavily inter-mixed with Egyptians.
So, I will continue to regard the history of Egypt as a vital source in understanding the Bible.
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On 4/20/2022 at 6:12 AM, Stefan said:
And Chevdove is absolutely correct. God cursed Canaan, not Ham.
Absolutely! @Stefan I don't understand why this has been a confusion when the scriptures clearly state this.
I think maybe, the Church has failed to show us the truth and so, many people have been confused due to the wording.
On 4/20/2022 at 6:12 AM, Stefan said:Noah was not a Slave to anyone. He was one of only eight survivors of a global flood.
Yes, the reason for the flood was due to a great degradation of humanity, however, the term 'slave' was not ascribed to Noah!
On 4/20/2022 at 6:12 AM, Stefan said:And the progenitor of the Black Race is believed by most anthropologists and Bible scholars to be Cush or Kush, a son of Ham and grandson of Noah.
Yes, I can see where this is partly of great truth as well, however, long before even the birth of Cush Ham, the scriptures reveal that the Black race was a dominant presence. Way before the flood and the birth of Cush even, the secular records attest to this as well. I visited the fine arts museum in boston a few years ago and was astonished at the artifacts dated that confirm this.
Even though, many so-called 'Black people' today aggressively state that there is no such truth as true 'Black people' and will argue this down to a scientist, however, they need to go see ancient artifacts. Long before Cush was born some of those 'Black devils' migrated from the east into Mesopotamia and Egypt. So no, it was not just the descendants of Ham that were the progenitor of the Black race, but before and after the flood, the people of HETH, those Egyptians came west and soon, some of them inter-mixed with the people in the land.
I saw some of these same idols in the fine arts museum and they were indeed completely Black and contrasted to other idols that were dark brown/bronze and completely White and dated back before the flood around the 3000s BC:
I believe that the first depicted is of Menkaure way before the flood.
Shabtis that reflect color variation.
In this link the name 'Taharqa' shows color variation thousands of years after the flood--no black depictions.
BUT, I was stunned at how many black idols were in that museum way before the flood.
The presence of Black people has a long history that has a presence in the ancient east world as well as in other parts of the ancient world. I think because of early decline of early east world civilization for various reasons, ancient people migrated westwards and overtime, Hamitic people were dominated. According to the scriptures, the east world Egyptians were NOT all negative but added a lot of rich history to Africa. But it was the negative aspect that eventually led to great oppression and this kind of history is most vital to understand, imo because it connects to these times.
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On 4/20/2022 at 6:00 AM, Stefan said:
But I have never seen a news report from a valid source that alluded to Russia offering sanctuary to Black Africans who fled the invasion.I found the video that I saw. I don't know if it a valid source in your opinion, but I believe what I read.
On 4/20/2022 at 6:00 AM, Stefan said:
If you talking about right at this moment, It would seem fantastical because any flights from Africa heading for Russia would be noticed. NATO, the U.S. and likely Israel are tracking everything in the air, land and sea connected to this conflict now.
And I doubt Black Africans who made it into Poland would be permitted to board flights to Russia.I believe you! I believe that any activity between Africa and Russia would be noticed and tracked and maybe that is why we over here would not get any kind of news on this wise. Any kind of news like this would probably have to come from a foreign source and that is just what happened. This video showed up on my channel. It was from an African girl's you tube channel:
Putin Gives Tanzanian Students A Place To Stay And Clothes To Change After Fleeing Ukraine
59,460 views
Mar 22, 2022
Putin Gives Tanzanian Students A Place To Stay And Clothes To Change After Fleeing Ukraine - YouTube
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13 hours ago, nels said:
It's a hoax that the Left is intent on drilling into BlackAmerica's Head.
I thought that another comment that you made would be more accurate:
With regard to President Biden you said;
["... Now he got his racist mass shooting and it will definitely take the heat off of him for all the other things he’s f*cked up since stealing the White House."]
And you also said:
"I think you're missing the point. The shooter is a tool of the Left and he was co-opted to commit the most egregious of crimes because of the Democrat's race-hustling political narrative, which is 'race'."
If the Democrat's are pushing a race-hustling political narrative, then they are racist.
Lastly, you said:
" ...It's incredulous that people and Black America in particular, don't seem to understand that the race bogeyman is being used to manipulate them."
This too means that 'the race bogeyman' is due to a movement to manipulate Black people because of racist.
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On 5/16/2022 at 4:52 PM, ProfD said:
I have zero issue with calling balls and strikes as I see them regardless of political party. From where I sit, both parties are total agreement when it comes to one thing...maintaining white supremacy.
Agreed.
In terms of how this law would play out for White women, I have a difficult time thinking that they would be criminalized if the goal is to foster more births. But, when it comes to Black women, it will definitely criminalize them! This government does not want more Black births.
This law would be dividing, imo. And, it makes me think about the issue with laws such as the use of marijuana in the past. I sometimes wonder how many Black people have been cited for breaking this law and criminalized but on the other hand, how many White people guilty of the same offense were able to get lawyers to avoid being cited.
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11 hours ago, ProfD said:
The point you're trying to make is an insult to the latest victims of a racist tragedy and black folks as a whole.
I believe that this horrible incident is 'racially motivated'.
I also do see another point now, in that this 'racist issue' is stoked up by people in high places.
Racist people in high places are using people like this evil murderer to do their dirty work. I absolutely understand the point that @nelshas made, although I don't know for sure what he believes entirely.
Just the next day, there was a mass shooting in California in a White Church and a few days earlier, Korean women were shot at in their place of business, however, the fashion in the way that the media has broadcasted the incident in Buffalo, New York will inevitably lead to more victimization of Black people due to the fashion in which it is highlighted.
The man tht shot up tht Church definitely has some mental health issues and whoever shot the Korean women is also off balanced, but the media does not concentrate on these horrors. However, it does seem like Black people are being targeted to foster a movement that furthers a racist and White Supremacist agenda set in action. It feels like we have been indoctrinated into a burning house. I feel like we are being pawned due to evil racist hatred, to further the actual movement.
4 hours ago, nels said:I am sympathetic to the victims of all violence and their families, but all thugs and killers should get the maximum amount of justice and capital punishment and imprisonment allowable.
Unfortunately, due to this government and our beginning, that will continue.
Not that Black hatred needs any help, but--Black on black crime is a miserable fate to many innocent Black victims and this is furthered due to White Supremacy and it continues to feed the devil's hatred and justifications for their acts.
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6 minutes ago, ProfD said:
Instead of buying clothes, shoes, jewelry and vehicles, etc., use some of that money to buy firearms.
Some of my relatives are saying this as well.
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On 5/15/2022 at 11:36 AM, ProfD said:
I believe this is just the beginning of white folks slaughtering people of color fueled by white supremacist ideology.
History is repeating itself unfortunately.
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23 hours ago, nels said:
Until Black America figures out that it's been duped royally by the Democrats, Marxists, Leftists, Globalists and the deceptive Mainstream Media, it doesn't stand a snowball's chance in h e l l of surviving the real threat of global domination that is sought by the #CCP.
On that note,
President Biden and First Lady Jill Biden went to Buffalo today! Based on this comment, it makes me wonder if the visit will help or hurt.
The article about this visit had a caption that said, "White Supremacy is a poison".
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On 4/22/2022 at 9:36 PM, Stefan said:
No one has heard of anything like this and the folks I checked keep a close eye on the Ukraine War as well as anything to do with U.S. national politics.
@Stefan Sorry for the late response.
I actually saw a video. And, it was about this conflict going on right now.
I will try to see if I can locate that video and post it.
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On 4/9/2022 at 10:12 AM, daniellegfny said:
I am glad you went through it.
I've learned a lot from your threads.
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5 hours ago, Stefan said:
Still, hundreds or possibly thousands, of Russian civilians in Moscow and other cities protested the invasion. You don’t hear much from many of them anymore.
That is news to me!
5 hours ago, Stefan said:I have been reading about how the reporters have a double standard when it comes to reporting about the Ukrainians versus other ethnic peoples.
I also just read that some Africans fled to Russia and were welcomed.
The Russian government fed them, clothed them, sheltered them and welcomed students into their college.
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On 4/10/2022 at 7:37 PM, Stefan said:
If you meant temporary servitude to pay off debt, the Bible does call for freeing of Israelites after seven years.
Yes, I agree! @Stefan
On 4/10/2022 at 7:37 PM, Stefan said:
However, I pointed out that not all Slaves to Israelites had an option to be freed. Many were prisoners of war and some were treated pretty shabbily. Those scriptures should never be ignored.No. I absolutely covered that in my previous post! In the very same chapters about 7 servitude of Israelites, it is also detailed about non-Israelites in that they were absolutely NOT to be mis-treated. However, after 7 years, non-Israelites could re-sign up for another 7 year period. As far as 'prisoners of war', that is another issue. As you outlined, certain people were slaughtered but I as far as 'prisoners of war' can you give scripture reference?
On 4/10/2022 at 7:37 PM, Stefan said:Why would any Israelite want to free someone who had been condemned by their God and could work for them for free forever?
No. The Israelites were not to enslave anyone! And, also they were intermixed with these people too because they did not do as they were supposed to do, therefore, it was actually the Hebrews that would end up going back into oppression under these people, so says the scriptures.
As far as the scriptures you cited about the certain Canaanites such as the Jebusites, Amalekites, etc. the Bible gives detail during the Exodus about them!
I've done years of research on these Headhunters, pedophiles, etc. and extremely incestuous people.
AMALEK----AmaLEK--KELTOI --- KELTS-- The Origin of the TRIANGLE SLAVE TRADERS
Amalek, the First of Nations
Gog & Magog...
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[14] Thou shalt not oppress an hired servant that is poor and needy,
whether he be of thy brethren, or of thy strangers that are in thy land within thy gates:
[15] At his day thou shalt give him his hire, neither shall the sun go down upon it;for he is poor, and setteth his heart upon it: lest he cry against thee unto the LORD, and it be sin unto thee.
DEUTERONOMY 24:14-15.
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On 11/26/2020 at 11:59 AM, Pioneer1 said:
The dude who played Big Worm in Friday is actually Cuban!
His government name is: Langston Faizon Santisima
Man, you learn something new every day.For real!
That's a new one on me.
This movie was so funny.
Ice Cube really captured the mood and atmosphere of that time span.
Some of his films, I think are too raw for me, but, I do wish he would make more films.
I just recently saw another old flick for the first time, First Sunday, and it was too funny.
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On 3/19/2022 at 1:09 PM, Stefan said:
Yes, the Bible sanctioned Slavery. Period.
@Stefan I addressed your references directly that outlined 7-year servitude.
There is nothing in the Bible that condones chattel slavery meaning slavery for life.
Will the "end of affirmative action in college admissions" soon become a reality? Maybe it's time to bone up on those books, folks.
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@richardmurray No I don not know of any. I wish I had the confidence to write a book about my experiences. I can't find the words in completion right now to express the deep feelings I have about it. It was as close to nirvana as I could have gotten so far, on this earth. Yes, it had some pitfalls and a significant amount of negativity but prior to going there, I thought it was going to be awful being around all of those black people. Now, afterwards, I just can't believe that I was fooled to think like that--Me!--a Black person myself.