San Francisco reparations, another round

[richardmurray]

It is municipal and also post war between the states. The reality is, what black people are owed  is beyond any government to give

 

 

Reparations means a thing that repairs, make ready again, but the black community in the usa only gets worse in the past historically.  To be blunt, if the black community in the usa whose forebears were enslaved before or after the usa was founded want to make any situation where we lived ready again, then it has to be back to africa. Because as a community, the DOSers only had something worth repairing before we were taken. In harlem, in NYC, many people talk about the harlem renaissance which was a term first coined by whites, but blacks first termed the new negro movement , and while these are merely labels, they serve an important point here. The black community in harlem before the 1920s wasn't some sort of paradise for blacks. So the black community in harlem during what many call the renaissance was having its first  positive cultural explosion. Not a renaissance, but a naissance. Whites in the usa talk about better days in the past cause they had them, when natives were being slaughtered and blacks enslaved. Native americans in the usa when they talk about better days in the past had them, before whites/blacks or any immigrants forced their way into their ancestral lands without their permission or invitation. But Black DOSers never had a better time in the past in the usa. What needs to be made ready again, what rebirth needs to happen? slave quarters in the british colonies, slave quarters in the usa, sharecroppers in the south, municipally discarded regions in northern or western cities? Yes, martha's vineyard, yes, a black one percent always existed , free, educated, fully invested in the usa. BUT, 99% of blacks were in enslaved/sharecropping/urban neglected while the 1% of black people were owning homes and lived better than  poor whites. ... the black community of san francisco can be given money but the black community of san francisco doesn't have anything in san francisco in the past worth repairing. They need something new in san francisco , and that is the question that brings uncertainty to  where the money will go, what will the black people do?  The black community in the usa, in this composite nation, frederick douglass's title for the usa, is a community of individuals, which serves the usa or the white community in it well, but is a terrible platform for a people who need a collective existence , that money can't buy, while money can complicate its forming. Composite NAtion speech, frederick douglass https://aalbc.com/tc/blogs/entry/357-frederick-douglass-our-composite-nation/

 

 

 

earlier thoughts 
https://aalbc.com/tc/profile/6477-richardmurray/?status=2216&type=status

 

[ProfD]

Reparations for ADOS involves more than cash payments to individuals.

 

Real reparations would also include an  infrastructure investment for guaranteed housing, healthcare, education full voting rights, etc. 

 

It's my belief that the reparations conversation as put forth in California is  political and making a mockery of it.  

[Pioneer1]

I still believe this entire California Reparations movement is a straight up TRICK.

It's high level deception aimed at manipulating weak minded AfroAmericans who sincerely think that the state of California is seriously going to give them ANYTHING.

....except a ticket to prison if they aren't careful.

There are more Black folks  IN prison in California than out, but people believe such a racist state actually cares enough about AfroAmericans to pass out Reparations checks????

[KENNETH]

16 hours ago, richardmurray said:

It is municipal and also post war between the states. The reality is, what black people are owed  is beyond any government to give

 

 

Reparations means a thing that repairs, make ready again, but the black community in the usa only gets worse in the past historically.  To be blunt, if the black community in the usa whose forebears were enslaved before or after the usa was founded want to make any situation where we lived ready again, then it has to be back to africa. Because as a community, the DOSers only had something worth repairing before we were taken. In harlem, in NYC, many people talk about the harlem renaissance which was a term first coined by whites, but blacks first termed the new negro movement , and while these are merely labels, they serve an important point here. The black community in harlem before the 1920s wasn't some sort of paradise for blacks. So the black community in harlem during what many call the renaissance was having its first  positive cultural explosion. Not a renaissance, but a naissance. Whites in the usa talk about better days in the past cause they had them, when natives were being slaughtered and blacks enslaved. Native americans in the usa when they talk about better days in the past had them, before whites/blacks or any immigrants forced their way into their ancestral lands without their permission or invitation. But Black DOSers never had a better time in the past in the usa. What needs to be made ready again, what rebirth needs to happen? slave quarters in the british colonies, slave quarters in the usa, sharecroppers in the south, municipally discarded regions in northern or western cities? Yes, martha's vineyard, yes, a black one percent always existed , free, educated, fully invested in the usa. BUT, 99% of blacks were in enslaved/sharecropping/urban neglected while the 1% of black people were owning homes and lived better than  poor whites. ... the black community of san francisco can be given money but the black community of san francisco doesn't have anything in san francisco in the past worth repairing. They need something new in san francisco , and that is the question that brings uncertainty to  where the money will go, what will the black people do?  The black community in the usa, in this composite nation, frederick douglass's title for the usa, is a community of individuals, which serves the usa or the white community in it well, but is a terrible platform for a people who need a collective existence , that money can't buy, while money can complicate its forming. Composite NAtion speech, frederick douglass https://aalbc.com/tc/blogs/entry/357-frederick-douglass-our-composite-nation/

 

 

 

earlier thoughts 
https://aalbc.com/tc/profile/6477-richardmurray/?status=2216&type=status

 

 

Thanks for posting this Richard. While I disagree with how you get to opposing Reparations l think you're wise to do so.