Election Day 2024

[ProfD]

 

Today, Americans exercise their civic duty in electing the leadership of the country up and down the ballot.

 

Regardless of who one chooses to vote for and whether they do it early or by mail or in person, it is an exercise that comes around every 4 years for the national election. Every 2 years for other elections.

 

Time flies. Seems like just yesterday we were doing the same thing on the national level.

[aka Contrarian]

Kamala was not the candidate to run against Trump.

America is not ready for a black woman president.

Americans are showing you what they are.

Dems have shown how naive and idealistic they are.

[Troy]

It’s not a matter of a black woman. It’s a matter of not wanting a woman of any color. 
 

From jump, it never occurred to me that if Hillary couldn’t beat Trump, how in the heck could Kamala?

 

It is still too early to call it now, but it does not look good for the Dems on any level.

 

[Chevdove]

11 minutes ago, Troy said:

 

From jump, it never occurred to me that if Hillary couldn’t beat Trump, how in the heck could Kamala?

 

Hilary was awesome, but Kamala is even better prepared imo.

Either way things go, I am praying for America. 

 

 

[ProfD]

From this election, Americans learned the campaign issues were smoke screens i.e. economy, immigration, reproductive rights, etc.

 

The two main issues on the ballot were 1) if America was ready for a female POTUS znd 2) referendum on former POTUS Orange Julius.

 

It appears American voters are still so far against having a woman POTUS that they are willing to re-elect a clown with more baggage than United Airlines. 

 

Interestingly, neither side of the media is willing to admit that America doesn't want a female POTUS. The talking heads are spinning it every other way.

 

America has shown that it remains loyal to patriarchy and racism.

 

During his victory speech, the picture showing the folks who lined up behind POTUS OJ reinforces the story too. 

 

The next 4 years will go by fast. If there is any consolation for the opposition, POTUS OJ cannot run again for several reasons.

[Pioneer1]

Troy

 

 

 but it does not look good for the Dems on any level.

 

If it didn't look good for Democrats three hours ago when you posted this, it looks even WORSE for them now at the time of THIS message.
Trump has 266 of the 270 needed to win the Whitehouse.
Plus Republicans are poised to take BOTH the Senate and the House!
 

 

 

 

ProfD


 If there is any consolation for the opposition, POTUS OJ cannot run again for several reasons.

One of which COULD be, there will no longer BE anymore elections for him or anybody else to run in.









I don't think it's her being a WOMAN that was Kamala's problem.
I seriously don't.

I think it was 2 major reasons:

1. The Republicans....as has been the case for the past 40 years or so...have simply become better communicators.
They were better at convincing more poor and working class people...especially Whites...to support them even if it's against their OWN "best interests".

2. Unlike Obama or Bill Clinton, Kamala wasn't very "inspiring".
Especially for Black men.
....who they will TRY to blame for her loss. Watch.


I kept saying it and most people who were against Trump agree with me:  MICHELLE OBAMA would have really changed the game and would have easily beaten Trump!

It wouldn't have been a landslide, but I don't believe it would have been close.

Even anti-Trumpers who said they weren't voting at all told me that they would have went out to vote for Michelle!
I would have!

Naw, it wasn't her being a woman that was the problem....the Republicans just ran a tighter game, plain and simple.
Remember, before he dropped out....Biden was getting his ass handed to him by Trump BEFORE Kamala took his place and ended up doing better.

Democrats should learn their lesson from this moment.
Choose a more charismatic and inspiring candidate and learn to effectively communicate their message and especially energize the AfroAmerican vote for the next Presidential Election.












....IF there's a "next" Presidential Election!

[Mzuri]

Perhaps the AMERICAN people simply want competent leadership.

 

Not DO-NOTHING KAMALA.

 

AMERICANS have been suffering economically and in other ways ever since BIDEN was

installed, because he shut down oil production and mandated people to buy EVs, rescinded

all of TRUMP's effective border policies, and all the rest of the DUMPSTER CLUSTERS that

BIDEN foisted upon us like the botched Afghanistan exit, money to Iran, weakened military,

two conflicts/wars, Laptop Hunter, inflation, food shortages, lawlessness, homelessness,

CCP and terrorists inside our borders, spending FEMA money on illegals, and numerous

other disasters.

 

KAMALA thought she was a shoo-in, and so she refused to do interviews and disclose her

actual policies, although she had already made herself clear on such issues as open borders,

defund the police, fracking, abortion, green new deal, climate change, trans surgeries for

prisoners, men in women's bathrooms and sports, and countless other liberal leftist ideology.

 

KAMALA thought that being endorsed by Oprah Doprah, Eminem, Beyonce, JLo, Gaga, Barack,

Michelle, Cheney, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Dick Van Dyke, Katie Holmes, Cardi B, Alec Baldwin

and all the rest, would get her elected.

 

KAMALA thought that she could pander to people by saying that she was BLACK and from the

middle class, both of which are questionable.

 

KAMALA thought that people would forget how she had hundreds of BLACK men incarcerated

for minor offenses.

 

KAMALA thought that she could beat TRUMP by hurling insults and zingers, waving her hands,

pointing her fingers, and pulling dumb faces.

 

KAMALA thought she could call TRUMP a dictator, fascist, Hitler, criminal, and other nonsense,

when she should have been addressing those insults to members of the Democratic Party.

 

KAMALA thought she could LAUGH her way out of answering serious questions.  

 

KAMALA thought that she could lie to the AMERICAN people about too many things to even track.

 

But KAMALA thought wrong.

 

AMERICANS don't want to live in an open-air prison.

 

AMERICANS want to live free and be safe and secure.

 

AMERICANS don’t want political opponents attacked with LAWFARE.

 

AMERICANS expect more from government officials.

 

Years ago, this forum was a place where you could find real, intelligent conversation.

 

Unfortunately, those days are LONG gone and it’s sad, as well as boring.

 

It would really be GREAT if you all brought this forum back up to the standard that it used to be.

 

MAKE THIS FORUM GREAT AGAIN!!!

 

 

 

 

[umbrarchist]

59 minutes ago, Mzuri said:

Perhaps the AMERICAN people simply want competent leadership.

Trump is competent?

Can't measure the floor space of a penthouse.

He couldn't possibly be lying.

[aka Contrarian]

@Mzuri: How could anybody be so oblivious when it comes to how ignorant, lascivious, and mentally erratic  Donald tRump is?

 Kamala is flawed but Trump is sn embarrassment, - the personification of everything that besmirches and disgraces the office of POTUS.

 

America should be ashamed of itself. And the American people should be frightened over what  this  egomanical, pathological liar will turn this country into.

 

And your criticism of this forum is unwarranted. Things aren't any worse than they were when you were here.

[ProfD]

3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

One of which COULD be, there will no longer BE anymore elections for him or anybody else to run in.

Americans won't allow the country to become a dictatorship.

 

3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

I don't think it's her being a WOMAN that was Kamala's problem.

I seriously don't.

Election returns were not as a close as 2020. No recount necessary. Worse for VP Harris than it was for Clinton in 2016.

 

Instead of a red wave, they're calling this win a red tsunami.

 

3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

1. The Republicans....as has been the case for the past 40 years or so...have simply become better communicators.

They were better at convincing more poor and working class people...especially Whites...to support them even if it's against their OWN "best interests".

White men do not want a woman running the country. They convinced their wives to stay on code.

3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

2. Unlike Obama or Bill Clinton, Kamala wasn't very "inspiring".
Especially for Black men.
....who they will TRY to blame for her loss. Watch.

Black men are not in the rural areas of states that she lost.

 

IOW, Black folks showed up for VP Harris in the places that they dwell.

 

VP Harris cannot blame Black men or anybody else for that azz whuppin'.

 

3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

I kept saying it and most people who were against Trump agree with me:  MICHELLE OBAMA would have really changed the game and would have easily beaten Trump!

It wouldn't have been a landslide, but I don't believe it would have been close.

Michelle Obama is a dark-skinned woman. White folks definitely wouldn't have voted for her. It would have been a landslide all right.

 

3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Democrats should learn their lesson from this moment.
Choose a more charismatic and inspiring candidate and learn to effectively communicate their message and especially energize the AfroAmerican vote for the next Presidential Election.

Until America is in a different place, Democrats have to nominate a man.

 

Considering POTUS OJ got reelected, It doesn't matter what kind of baggage he carries. 

 

The Democrats need to grow a spine and come up with a better plan for putting money in American pockets.

 

3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

....IF there's a "next" Presidential Election!

We'll continue having national elections another every 4 years. Democracy is not in jeopardy.

[Troy]

4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

MICHELLE OBAMA would have really changed the game and would have easily beaten Trump!

Absolutely not. This is a pipe dream man, let out go, SMH

 

4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

The Republicans....as has been the case for the past 40 years or so...have simply become better communicators.

I think this is more reflection of a white racist, patriarchy more than an  ability to communicate effectively.

 

Trump won the popular vote. The American people have spoken loud and clear.  

The Democrats were indeed naive, dumb even. They should’ have had a convention and selected a white man to replace Biden. 
 

Popularity also matters with Americans few knew Harris or the older white guy she ran with. (he is actually younger than me, but presents much older.)

 

3 hours ago, Mzuri said:

MAKE THIS FORUM GREAT AGAIN!!!

Mzuri’s diatribe is one that I’ve heard articulated many times by a wide variety of people, including black men. It is the same reasoning I heard articulated when Trump ran the first time. I’m not surprised he won this time either. Again, Trump versus a woman: Trump is going to win every time..
 

I will admit, however, that conversations like this with a variety of opinions and some humor thrown in are not as frequent as they have been in the past. The variety of opinions is what makes the form interesting to me. 
 

37 minutes ago, ProfD said:

VP Harris cannot blame Black men or anybody else for that azz whuppin'.

Thank you. 

 

[ProfD]

Political commentator Van Jones who frequently shows up on CNN is way too emotional for a Black man. 

 

This dude will break down and start crying on TV whenever the Democrats are in trouble or take an L. 

 

He wept when POTUS PJB showed that he wasn't up to running for re-election. 

 

Last night, he got choked up as the reality of VP Harris losing the election became more clear. 

 

HIs excuses for getting stirred up were women's rights and transgender kids being hurt by the election outcome.  

 

Nevermind that Van Jones got $100 million from Jeff Bezos to do...something.  I haven't seen anything constructive yet.

[frankster]

12 hours ago, ProfD said:

The next 4 years will go by fast. If there is any consolation for the opposition, POTUS OJ cannot run again for several reasons.

Are you sure they will be another Presidential Election??

[ProfD]

1 hour ago, frankster said:

Are you sure they will be another Presidential Election??

As I mentioned above, I'm absolutely sure there will be another POTUS election in 2028 and beyond. 

 

The cast of characters will definitely be different too.

[Pioneer1]

Troy and ProfD

Lol, are yall serious?

Do you REALLY believe that Kamala lost because she was a woman?
 

I agree that there is a lot of sexism in this country.
No doubt.
Including in our community.
However THAT'S not the reason that woman lost.

*ProfD, you speak of so how much Kamala lost by but didn't HILARY CLINTON who was another WOMAN, lose by a much much slimmer margin back in 2016?
So would that suggest that this nation is more "sexist" in 2024 than they were back in 2016?

*Also, remember this "sexist" country VOTED for Biden back in 2020 when he had a FEMALE (Harris) running mate over Trump and Pence who were BOTH MALES.

*And need I remind you both that the chances of the Democrats winning this election almost SKY ROCKETED when Biden (a man) dropped out and Kamala (a woman) took the reigns as Democrat Nominee.

No, sexism wasn't the reason.


Like Junior Soprano said about Richie April on the Sopranos when he was trying to decide who he should choose to be his successor as head of the Soprano crime family.

"He couldn't sell it.
He simply couldn't sell it to them"
 

In other words, she couldn't sell HERSELF or HER MESSAGE to the American people and get it out as effectively as the Trump campaign.
She didn't have "it".
She didn't have the charisma Trump had.
 

Even many if not most BLACK MEN thought Trump was more effective in reaching them and talking to them than Kamala, even if they didn't vote for him.

The Republicans....as they have for the past 30 years PLAY DIRTY and KICK ASS in their communications and outreach...straight up.

Ain't had shit to do with people not wanting a female leader.

And yes...Troy...Michelle would have swept the damn streets with Trump.
Whether you want to believe it or not.

 

Mzuri

Hey young lady
Long time no posting from you....lol.
 

The forum is already great.
You should post more often and make it GREATER

Trust me, you and your Conservative views won't be alone.
There are a couple other posters who share similar....lol.

Cynique

And your criticism of this forum is unwarranted
 

Oh, careful now.
....put that rock down, lol.
 

I agree that this forum is really unworthy of any criticism, however remember that YOU TOO walked off and left us a couple times yourself, lol.
 

[ProfD]

4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Lol, are yall serious?

Do you REALLY believe that Kamala lost because she was a woman?

*ProfD, you speak of so how much Kamala lost by but didn't HILARY CLINTON who was another WOMAN, lose by a much much slimmer margin back in 2016?

I believe both lost because they're women. America isn't ready.

4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

So would that suggest that this nation is more "sexist" in 2024 than they were back in 2016?

Sexist and racist.

4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

*Also, remember this "sexist" country VOTED for Biden back in 2020 when he had a FEMALE (Harris) running mate over Trump and Pence who were BOTH MALES.

POTUS PJB still a white man in charge. White voters were fine with a female of color being VP.  2nd in command. Only takes over if POTUS becomes incapacitated or dies in office. 

4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

*And need I remind you both that the chances of the Democrats winning this election almost SKY ROCKETED when Biden (a man) dropped out and Kamala (a woman) took the reigns as Democrat Nominee.

The media tried to sell VP Harris. Clearly she was not gaining popularity to the extent they claimed in polls.

4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

In other words, she couldn't sell HERSELF or HER MESSAGE to the American people and get it out as effectively as the Trump campaign.
She didn't have "it".
She didn't have the charisma Trump had.

VP Harris had 4 months to campaign. POTUS OJ had been in the media for 8 years.

[aka Contrarian]

The pundits  can and are citing  black and brown men as being factors in Kamala's loss.  And I agree that those who voted red were "guilty" because a lot of different things  contributed to her defeat. For one thing, their  preference for tRump bordered on admiration as he took the low ground and crudely disrespected her in his rants, much to their approval. 

 

As for the clueless Dems, they misread the white electorate, and underestimated the negative role race still plays among these voters. Then there was the mistake of  believing the  endorsement  of celebrities would bring their fans into the fold and sway the Independents. Instead, it had the opposite effect. 

 

"Abortion",by name, should've  been  absorbed into the "right for a woman to control her own body" phrase because black folks, militant brothas and church goin folks  in particular, associate the  word abortion with genocide and  get a little touchy when it is stridently extolled. Whatever.

 

After watching Kamala's kick-ass dynamic  concession speech,  I became more impressed with her. 

 But not to the point where I'm revitalized.

I'm weary and l'm done. Nor am I of a mind to kiss and make up with Trump supporters. I haven't really mellowed with age or - become patriotic 

               Fuck America.

[Pioneer1]

ProfD

 

 

You said BOTH lost because they are women, but Hilary Clinton (a woman) received more POPULAR VOTE than Trump!
She only lost because she didn't fight of the ELECTORAL votes.
Not out of popularity.

So the majority of the population...or voters atleast...back in 2016 actually DID want to see a woman as President!

 

I don't believe America is a sexist OR racist country.
I believe there are sexists and racists IN America.

That difference in thinking is the key could be the key to our collective Success in this nation.

 

If AfroAmericans....
Especially AfroAmerican youth....
...are convinced that this nation is inherently unfair, biased, and simply racist.
Then many if not most will subconsciously question why even bother TRYING to assume positions of power and try to achieve success.

Even when racism was OFFICIAL and part of U.S. POLICY...Jim Crow,  legal Segregation, etc....you have plenty of AfroAmerican success in the forms of farms, land ownership, businesses, bus lines, etc.
Because they realized the despite the racists in power, the land ITSELF and money ITSELF wasn't racist and could be used to their benefit.

 

 

A Black man OR Black woman can still be President of this nation (if we get another election..that is...lol).
But niggaz are going to have to put their emotions to the side and start doing what it takes to WIN.

 

 

 

Cynique

 

After watching Kamala's kick-ass dynamic  concession speech,

A "kick-ass dynamic" concession speech?
 

Hmmm....
Somehow those two concepts don't seem to fit together.
 

It's like a "well typed, proof read, and grammatically correct"  suicide note.
 

In other words.....what's the point of it?
 

She lost.

You were impressed by her concession speech.
I would have been impressed by her actually WINNING.
 

[frankster]

13 hours ago, ProfD said:

As I mentioned above, I'm absolutely sure there will be another POTUS election in 2028 and beyond. 

 

The cast of characters will definitely be different too.

You most likely right....Trump never keeps his word...

[ProfD]

5 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

You said BOTH lost because they are women, but Hilary Clinton (a woman) received more POPULAR VOTE than Trump!
She only lost because she didn't fight of the ELECTORAL votes.
Not out of popularity.

So the majority of the population...or voters atleast...back in 2016 actually DID want to see a woman as President!

Popular vote doesn't win POTUS elections.  It's all about the electoral college. 

 

POTUS OJ lost the popular vote in 3 election cycles.  This is the 1st time POTUS OJ has actually won the popular vote.

 

5 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

I don't believe America is a sexist OR racist country.
I believe there are sexists and racists IN America.

That difference in thinking is the key could be the key to our collective Success in this nation.

Well, if you don't believe America is a sexist, racist, patriarchal country, just like racism white supremacy, believing anything else will only lead to confusion.

 

5 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

If AfroAmericans....
Especially AfroAmerican youth....
...are convinced that this nation is inherently unfair, biased, and simply racist.
Then many if not most will subconsciously question why even bother TRYING to assume positions of power and try to achieve success.

Every generation of AfroAmericans has understood what America is and many of us have faced those obstacles and hurdles and been successful in spite of it.

 

5 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Even when racism was OFFICIAL and part of U.S. POLICY...Jim Crow,  legal Segregation, etc....you have plenty of AfroAmerican success in the forms of farms, land ownership, businesses, bus lines, etc.
Because they realized the despite the racists in power, the land ITSELF and money ITSELF wasn't racist and could be used to their benefit.

The current generation of AfroAmericans will also figure out how to thrive and survive in America too.

5 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

A Black man OR Black woman can still be President of this nation (if we get another election..that is...lol).
But niggaz are going to have to put their emotions to the side and start doing what it takes to WIN.

Anything is possible.  POTUS Barack Obama is proof.  If/when another charismatic Black man comes along with similar credentials, he could potentially move the crowd.

 

5 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

She lost.

You were impressed by her concession speech.
I would have been impressed by her actually WINNING.

She never really stood a chance of winning as long as America has its flaws.

[aka Contrarian]

@Pioneer1Did you watch Kamala's entire speech?  Her defeat was incidental. She focused on what lie ahead, sounding a call to arms to her immense following of women and young people in the audience, passionately urging them to regroup and forge ahead in the battle for full freedom, telling them to never give up on their dreams and goals.

Concession speeches are traditionally critiqued by the press, because they are historical and Kamala's is receiving high marks from today's talking heads. 

[Delano]

Donald Trump has more of a resemblance to the founding fathers than Kamala Harris.

 

So a vote for Donald Trump is a vote for the past. While Kamala Harris represents the ideals of America. That speaks volumes to who the American people are in deed.

[ProfD]

3 hours ago, Delano said:

While Kamala Harris represents the ideals of America. That speaks volumes to who the American people are in deed.

VP Harris went as far as America was willing 2 let her go and they shut the door.

[Pioneer1]

ProfD

 

Popular vote doesn't win POTUS elections.  It's all about the electoral college. 

 

I know that.
My point is, Clinton won the POPULAR vote which means that in 2016 more people in the U.S. actually WERE ready for a female president than those who were not!

Also, just because they voted for Trump in 2016...doesn't necessarily mean they were against having a female leader.
Many were, but many voted or him for other reasons besides sexism.
 

 

Well, if you don't believe America is a sexist, racist, patriarchal country, just like racism white supremacy, believing anything else will only lead to confusion.

In that deep and clear voice of his, Neely Fuller Jr. would tell you:
"People need to STOP saying "America" is racist or "America" is sexist or "America" is this or "America" is that.
There IS no America.
America means justice.
You can't HAVE justice and racism or sexism or mistreatment at the same time"
 

I wouldn't go that far but I would say there are sexists, racists and patriarchs IN America.
They may even be the MAJORITY in America...but as long as non-racists and non-sexists are in America, it's not a racist or sexist nation.

Just like the majority of the population of this nation is still White....but few people would call the U.S. a "White nation".
 

Anyway....MOST nations on the planet could be considered racist and sexist by that standard.

Over half of the countries in Asia and Africa and Latin America could be considered even MORE racist and sexist than the United States.

 

 

The current generation of AfroAmericans will also figure out how to thrive and survive in America too.

 

Like the previous generations.....SOME will and SOME won't.

Generations aren't monoliths.
Everyone doesn't share the same fate.

 

 

If/when another charismatic Black man comes along with similar credentials, he could potentially move the crowd.

 

And I believe one WILL come along to do this.
The question is, WHEN.
Will it be in our Lifetime?

 

 

 

She never really stood a chance of winning as long as America has its flaws

 

Brutha she had a GOOD chance of winning (Michelle had a BETTER chance...lol) but she blew it by neglecting her base and not playing to actually WIN.

 

 

 

 

Cynique

@Pioneer1Did you watch Kamala's entire speech?
 

No.
For what?

Did she say something in it about a RECOUNT or that she'd fight the results of the election?

Other than that...she lost.

What kind of speech can she give or say that will override THAT fact?

 

If your husband took the family savings and ran out and gambled it away and came back home having LOST everything, what could that man possibly say that would appease you or uplift you?

 

 

 

Concession speeches are traditionally critiqued by the press, because they are historical and Kamala's is receiving high marks from today's talking heads.

 

The same thing can be said of an inmate's "last words" before they were executed.

But they STILL got executed.

 

Either the mission/goal was accomplished, or it wasn't.
 

[ProfD]

16 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

My point is, Clinton won the POPULAR vote which means that in 2016 more people in the U.S. actually WERE ready for a female president than those who were not!

Gotcha. According to that logic. 

16 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

.In that deep and clear voice of his, Neely Fuller Jr. would tell you:
"People need to STOP saying "America" is racist or "America" is sexist or "America" is this or "America" is that.
There IS no America.
America means justice.
You can't HAVE justice and racism or sexism or mistreatment at the same time"
 

I wouldn't go that far but I would say there are sexists, racists and patriarchs IN America.

That's fair.  There's a whole of lot of them too.

16 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

.Just like the majority of the population of this nation is still White....but few people would call the U.S. a "White nation".

Ask who's in charge of America. Wait for the answer.

16 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Anyway....MOST nations on the planet could be considered racist and sexist by that standard.

Over half of the countries in Asia and Africa and Latin America could be considered even MORE racist and sexist than the United States.

Most countries are homogeneous.

16 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

And I believe one WILL come along to do this.

The question is, WHEN.
Will it be in our Lifetime?

Anything is possible. A charismatic Black leader could emerge. 

16 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Brutha she had a GOOD chance of winning (Michelle had a BETTER chance...lol) but she blew it by neglecting her base and not playing to actually WIN.

We'll see which way the Democrats go in 2028. 

16 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

If your husband took the family savings and ran out and gambled it away and came back home having LOST everything, what could that man possibly say that would appease you or uplift you?

He could say "hey, we're broke as f8ck but still love my boo".

 

At some point, I believe former FLOTUS Obama is going to make statement that she's not interested in becoming POTUS.

[nels]

On 11/5/2024 at 8:03 PM, aka Contrarian said:

America is not ready for a black woman president.

In recent times, America has been ready and hungry for a (real genuine) black woman president, but Kamala isn't black and she was the wrong choice from the start.

[Pioneer1]

ProfD

 

Ask who's in charge of America. Wait for the answer.

 

Who's "incharge" of a nation isn't necessarily the same demographic as who MAKES UP a nation.

Look at South Africa under Apartheid, for example
 

The management of a firm is almost always smaller than the rank-n-file membership.

 

 

 

 

Most countries are homogeneous.

 

Correct.
And they ARE that way for a reason, lol.

 

 

 

nels

 

 

In recent times, America has been ready and hungry for a (real genuine) black woman president, but Kamala isn't black and she was the wrong choice from the start.

 

I think ENOUGH Americans are ready for a Black woman president who is intelligent enough and bold enough whom they can trust to get the job done and protect the nation; especially when compared to somebody like Trump.
Kamala just wasn't THAT woman.
And like you said, she isn't Black...in my opinion.

It was a LAZY choice.
The only reason Kamala was chosen to run was because she was already Vice President and in the Whitehouse.
She wasn't actually GROOMED and PREPARED to run up against a man like Trump.

[umbrarchist]

852vus

[aka Contrarian]

I disagree with what are the opinions expressed by nels - and pioneer when it comes to America being ready for a female president

Imo, Kamala and Hillary were both much more qualified than the lying-ass felonious SOB they lost to. Furthermore, chauvinism of black and brown males and the unacknowledged racism of white middle America played a significant role in Kamala's loss.  Ready for a black female president, hell.

 

Plus, Kamala's black father and her choice of college and sorority legitimize her right  to self-identify herself as a black woman. She's certainly not white.

nels doesn't  have an objective bone in his body. Everything he says is inspired by his hate for Democrats and underscored by his slavish devotion to  Retrumpicans. He expects everthing he utters to be accepted as the gospel truth. In another post, he disputes the impression of  Kamala appearing confident in defeat, by claiming she is, instead, a "basket case", something we are supposed to believe because - HE says it. 

He's full of shit turned orange colored by the koolaid served at meetings of the tRump cult. 

[umbrarchist]

I hear that people have been abandoning TwiX in droves since the Triumph of Trump.

 

(X aka Twitter)

 

Steven King announced leaving with his 17,000,000 followers. I was banned years ago. I signed up for something called Blue Sky.

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[Troy]

On 11/6/2024 at 5:10 AM, Mzuri said:

Dick Van Dyke

Dick is still alive?!

 

@umbrarchist that was an interesting chart. Having lived in Oklahoma for more than a year and a half and visiting cities like OKC, Norman and historically Black towns like Boley. The stats, assuming they are factually, don’t resonate. It makes OK sound like a terrible place to live. It is not.

 

that said, I would not drawn conclusions about the people those states based upon those maps. It would be no different than coloring in the entire country red and saying this country voted for Trump. It would be meaningless in terms of describing the individual people or their communities.

 

[umbrarchist]

Mass vs OK war Round 2

 

 

Oklahoma has almost 7 times as much area but Massachusetts has almost 2 times the population.

 

Massachusetts can't win because the Oklahomans have too much space to hide in.

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Edited November 19 by umbrarchist
Oklahoma got bigger

[umbrarchist]

 

[Troy]

@umbrarchist I assume you know this guy’s opinion is no more valuable than anyone’s here. What did he say that compelled you to share his video?

 

MA and OK are very different places, they may as well be different countries. I would want to live in either place long term, but I’d probably give MA a edge because of transportation, promote to other places, and cultural diversity.

[umbrarchist]

7 hours ago, Troy said:

 I assume you know this guy’s opinion is no more valuable than anyone’s here. What did he say that compelled you to share his video?

 

I just watched the entire video again.

I do not so much think in terms of valuable as I do in terms of INTERESTING.  I presume that people can think for ThemSelves and make Their Own value judgements.

 

His analysis of Hispanic voting was interesting and was his talk about a Constitutional Crisis coming up. I watched a video of Trump having trouble walking to his garbage truck. ChatGPT says that a 78 year old man has a 22% chance of dying in the next 4 years.  

 

We are currently enjoying the Trump Clown Cabinet Charade.

 

So what is your problem with the video. Or did you watch it?

Edited November 22 by umbrarchist
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