Troy Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 This post is dedicated to Chris. The influence of hip-hop. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcnWb-vomN8 This is a neat video which actually illustrates Biggie's skills as a lyricist and story teller. Biggie remains on of my favorite rap artists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDBurns Posted November 18, 2014 Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 Still think that's a dope song, but this was pretty corny, lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Posted November 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2014 LOL! Chris this typifies the complete and utter co-option of hip-hop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDBurns Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 It definitely does. But this one really defines the co-option... what's worse is Busta Rhymes actually participated in the new one. smh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Posted November 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 Well at least Buster is getting paid even though he has "Jumped the Shark." Speaking of jumping the shark as anyone peeped Tavis Smiley on Dancing With the Stars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDBurns Posted November 22, 2014 Report Share Posted November 22, 2014 I am definitely not mad at him for taking the check. Doing so didn't hurt anyone at all. But it definitely shows how Hip-Hop continues to permeate everything in the world... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Posted November 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2014 I think I see the difference in our opinions Chris, what you see as permeation I see as sellin' out. What you see as influence I view as co-optation. To a casual observer the distinction means little, but to me it means everything in the world. The hip-hop of my day was not a tool of corporate America it was instead a direct reaction to oppression. Seen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDBurns Posted November 27, 2014 Report Share Posted November 27, 2014 Not quite. I can easily say it is selling out, but in regard to Busta and the horrible contracts he had at Violator and then with Cash Money, I'm okay with him making his money. I think selling out is the ignorant garbage that is being passed off as hip-hop and rap. The misogynistic, misguided, hyper sexualized disrespectful crap is selling out. We agree. The art that Common and The Roots are creating along with Kendrick Lamar is no where near selling out, it's helping to transition rap into it's next phase. The commercialized aspects are killing almost everything that makes money. I once wrote an answer in a book named 100 Black and White questions about Eminem being the second coming of Elvis. I later regretted saying this because I realized that Eminem is more hip-hop than 99% of the Black emcees in the mainstream. I think the co-opting in Hip-hop is clearly with Iggy Azalea and these influx of wack White women rappers. There are some other White rappers who are co-opting, but because of the amount of good rap out there I'm able to see it as permeation, but because you may not be aware of as much as I am it seems that we have different views when I think we are very closely aligned in our thoughts. I think what happened is I was arguing the positive aspects, which made it appear that I only see the positive aspects, when that is the farthest thing from the truth. Read this excerpt and I think you will see very quickly that we are on the same page. My discussion here has been primarily to counter the discussion of the negative aspects: http://www.cbpublish.com/winter-in-hip-hop-track-3-and-it-goes-a-little-something-like-this/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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