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21 hours ago, Delano said:

Perhaps it is related to your being comfortable critiquing and psychoanalysing the men. Which you don't do with Mel.

You are a better writer than all of the men here. You treat men on the  forum the way men treat women in the world. It's not that you don't take men seriously. Its just you feel that the writing reflects half baked ideas.

 @DelWHO are you talking about?  Me? Or Troy?  

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@Mel Hopkins if you go back through tje exchanges at various points you, me , Cynique and Troy. Have had an emotional response to what Pioneer has written. Also each of us has questioned his thought process. Which does not speak to non attachment.  You Troy and myself have begrudgingly agreed with Pioneer. At a certain point I decided to stop having an emotional response. 

 

@Mel Hopkins if my words haven't made you question your response.  i can repost some previous post that demonstrate my opinion.

1 hour ago, Cynique said:

 @DelWHO are you talking about?  Me? Or Troy?  

You. 

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3 hours ago, Delano said:

 if my words haven't made you question your response.  i can repost some previous post that demonstrate my opinion

 

@Delano yes, that would be helpful. 

 

 

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I don't think you folks know that Pioneer came and went on this board.  He showed up one day and stayed around for a while, and then left.  Later after a long hiatus, he  suddenly reappeared.  Even during his first  "term", he and i constantly argued. When he came back, there was truce but we gradually began to clash again.

 

If what he provokes in me can be described as an emotion (?),  irritation would be what comes to mind because so much of what he says strikes me as absurd, or inaccurate, or dogmatic. And this is compounded by how he thinks he's never wrong! At some point, this has become a knee-jerk reaction because as soon as he posts something, i know i'm going to disagree with it, -  and I usually do. And, of course, all of this is exacerbated by my argumentive personality. I've come to the conclusion that he and i are  like oil and water; we just don't mix.  As Mel previously noted, some people have a natural aversion to each other. Maybe he and i had a contentious relationship in another life.  Who knows? Who cares?

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I don't think I have an emotion response to Pioneers posts.  When I agree with him it is not begrudging either.  In fact I often feel, as I've said before, I can relate to Pioneer because I've shared many of the opinion he hold -- even the one on race.

 

@Delano I think you may be projecting your relationship with Pioneer onto others.  At least in my case you are not seeing it the way I do.

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@Mel Hopkins, I think you dropped the Buddhism bomb. Attachment. 

 

I cannot speak for anyone else, but I have found in the past that when I have too much of a stake in the outcome of a conversation, I become too passionate...I want to be right, I want the world to revolve around my views. I am not open to possibility. 

 

No matter WHAT I discuss on ANY forum or in person, no matter what I express, I am NOT attached to it, no matter what I say about my feelings on a topic. That is why I do not get upset with anyone who has a different view or experience and eventually go silent when folks cannot consider another view on a topic. I don't want anyone to "take my side" but to just consider ideas. Because at the end of the day, my stance is, we could ALL be wrong about our thoughts/ideas/opinions, even, dare I say, our observations that we define a certain way. Our observations in and of themselves may not be wrong, but our interpretation of what we observe could be 100% wrong.

 

There could be 6 billion separate views of life and existence, and they could ALL be wrong because we have yet, as a human species, to advance to the point of understanding what we THINK we are looking at. So while I enjoy discussions about things and I share what I THINK I know, I am not attached to anything. I leave myself forever open to possibility. 

 

Possibility. That is the crux of it. So many are attached to their view of the world and how they've defined their observation that they cannot consider possibility.

 

For example, I've pondered the changes in weather/climate, etc., and have not come away with this doom and gloom that is pushed by the scientific community and something that needs to be fixed. Just like we go through seasons in a year--winter, spring, summer, fall--what IF the planet is merely going through a couple millennia long season? What if what we think is some terrible warming that could destroy everything on Earth is merely the planet's normal shift into Summer that will last for about 2,000 years? I am not saying for sure that is what it is, but because we are so stuck on what we've decided the observation means, we cannot consider other possible reasons for what we are observing that does not include doom and gloom.

 

Love your assessment on attachment. It brought up a lot that I often meditate on. I detach when I see I am communicating with those who are attached to their way of seeing things, or have decided that their conclusions on their observations are the ONLY conclusion that can be derived from an observation or experience. That is why you will rarely if ever hear/read me use the words, "you are wrong" no matter if I think they COULD be. I am more inclined to ask, "Could you be wrong?" If someone said to me they are going to walk off a mountain because gravity doesn't exist, to be frank, unless it is my child, I am not arguing with grown folks who think the way they see is the ONLY way. I'll merely ask them, after a bit of discussion to gauge how they came to their conclusion (can't let them go out without at least speaking on gravity), if they can, to let me know how it goes when they've tried it. Cause at the end of the day, maybe they've developed a way to fly that I am unaware of. So who am I to tell them they are wrong?  LOL. 

 

:: closing eyes and crossing legs :: I detach myself from my opinions, knowledge, information, facts and beliefs. Ommmmmm. Namaste...

 

 

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19 minutes ago, zaji said:

 

:: closing eyes and crossing legs :: I detach myself from my opinions, knowledge, information, facts and beliefs. Ommmmmm. Namaste...


Yes, Yes, Yes,! (I'm over here giggling -because I have to meditate on this All.The.Time. ) :)

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We 3 women here all seem to be on the same page.  My inner-narrative is constantly prompting me to exercise my 3rd eye, and to make sure i'm seeing what i'm seeing, and hearing what i'm hearing.  The ego can be a capricious filter.    

 

Zen is the key to my inner sanctum. Nam Myoho Renge Kyo

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On 10/02/2018 at 9:23 AM, Troy said:

I don't think I have an emotion response to Pioneers posts.  When I agree with him it is not begrudging either.  In fact I often feel, as I've said before, I can relate to Pioneer because I've shared many of the opinion he hold -- even the one on race.

 

@Delano I think you may be projecting your relationship with Pioneer onto others.  At least in my case you are not seeing it the way I do.

Ok Troy 

 

I am focusing more on awareness and my reaction. So that I cam freely agree or disagree with a topic. And not be influenced by the personal dynamic 

it is a work in progress. 

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10 hours ago, Cynique said:

We 3 women here all seem to be on the same page.  My inner-narrative is constantly prompting me to exercise my 3rd eye, and to make sure i'm seeing what i'm seeing, and hearing what i'm hearing.  The ego can be a capricious filter.    

 

Zen is the key to my inner sanctum. Nam Myoho Renge Kyo

 

Nam Myoho Renge Kyo  - Yes, @Cynique . This just reminded me that five years ago I would chant every day. I was wondering what was different about my life then but I noticed a lot of things changing. I may have to revisit this practice.  

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Cynique

 

 

So I didn't reverse myself and agree with you.


You only agree with me when you DON'T consciously realize it...lol.
Once it has been brought to your attention (usually by me) then you'll go out of your way to CHANGE your position and disagree.

 

 

 

 

I don't think you folks know that Pioneer came and went on this board. He showed up one day and stayed around for a while, and then left. Later after a long hiatus, he suddenly reappeared. Even during his first "term", he and i constantly argued. When he came back, there was truce but we gradually began to clash again.


Lol....
For a person who could "care less" about my presence you sure do keep up with MY comings and goings.

There was no "truce" between us because I never took you serious enough to fight with.
People like you don't make formidable opponents because you don't have any solid positions nor do you have any serious diagreements; you just like to push buttons and enjoy the emotions it brings out of people.

The only reason you stopped squabbling with me was because you had your hands full with Sara. As soon as she was gone.....you turned your flashing eyes back towards me and started licking your fangs, lol.

 

 

 



If what he provokes in me can be described as an emotion (?), irritation would be what comes to mind because so much of what he says strikes me as absurd, or inaccurate, or dogmatic. And this is compounded by how he thinks he's never wrong! At some point, this has become a knee-jerk reaction because as soon as he posts something, i know i'm going to disagree with it, - and I usually do. And, of course, all of this is exacerbated by my argumentive personality. I've come to the conclusion that he and i are like oil and water; we just don't mix. As Mel previously noted, some people have a natural aversion to each other. Maybe he and i had a contentious relationship in another life. Who knows? Who cares?


YOU care.....lol.

Which is why I've stated CLEARLY and consistently through out this thread that I suspect your problem is:

1. You see my presence as a threat to your status here.
2. You have a degree of attraction towards me and enjoy the attention you get from our quarrels.

I stand by that assessment until it is proven otherwise

Yes, we may be like oil and water......but I'm the oil because I always come out on top, lol.

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20 hours ago, Mel Hopkins said:

Yes, Yes, Yes,! (I'm over here giggling -because I have to meditate on this All.The.Time. ) 

 

@Mel Hopkins, I'm giggling right along with you. 

 

19 hours ago, Cynique said:

We 3 women here all seem to be on the same page.  My inner-narrative is constantly prompting me to exercise my 3rd eye, and to make sure i'm seeing what i'm seeing, and hearing what i'm hearing.  The ego can be a capricious filter.    

 

Yes @Cynique. Ego can catch us unaware at times. I make it a point to attempt awareness of when my conversations are all about my ego, rather than finding truth. Some folks think we are trying to find truth, desiring to reveal truth to others, when in fact, they are just full of ego and trying to be right. 

 

The worst part is when an individual finds a little bit of information without knowing the fullness of a thing (or using no critical and unique thinking) and then they are off and running with the I-know-I'm-right attitude. And not from a humble place of so called knowing, but from a boastful place, a place of intellectual superiority. If I have to boast about knowledge I believe I have, then I need to question myself as to whether that knowledge is true and not just something I'm using to pretend I'm better informed than others and therefore above them. Truth does not require me to fight for it. It can stand on its own whether someone wishes to see it or not. Truth also doesn't require me to be angry and overly passionate on its behalf, simply because someone doesn't see it. My job is to drop seed and keep it moving. I try to leave my ego at the door whenever I am aware of its attempts at infiltration. Third eye gotta stay open!! 

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3 hours ago, zaji said:

 

Yes @Cynique. Ego can catch us unaware at times. I make it a point to attempt awareness of when my conversations are all about my ego, rather than finding truth. Some folks think we are trying to find truth, desiring to reveal truth to others, when in fact, they are just full of ego and trying to be right

So true.  I had that experience here more than once.

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@zajii really appreciate your insight and clarity, and  how you are able to keep yourself in perspective. Some of the things you say are like shoes that fit my feet.  i am not deluded about how flawed i am and that is my salvation. I am on a truth seeking mission, myself, and the one truth i've learned is how elusive yet constant the truth is and how the journey supercedes the destination.  i really appreciate having you on this board to keep me in check by virtue of what i gain from the thoughts you share.  

 

@Pioneer1Did you read Zaji's above post.  You could take some lessons from this.  Your ego and your imagination are over the the top. A threat you are not. That's something you have imprinted on your psych, in order to feel good about yourself. Why you think that you are anymore riveting than Troy or Del, is beyond me. Most of your long posts i don't even finish reading. i categorize you as a certain type.  i've encountered males like you from time to time all my life and they've always turned me off.  And, lo behold, one of these types turns up on this board in the person of a deluded boring know-it-all.  

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On 11/02/2018 at 7:47 AM, Cynique said:

We 3 women here all seem to be on the same page.  My inner-narrative is constantly prompting me to exercise my 3rd eye, and to make sure i'm seeing what i'm seeing, and hearing what i'm hearing.  The ego can be a capricious filter.    

 

Zen is the key to my inner sanctum. Nam Myoho Renge Kyo

It would appear so. 

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On 31/01/2018 at 4:51 AM, Cynique said:

is remarkably objective and very smart! He and I don't bite our tongues around each other and often disagree; i don't think we ever fully resolved our mansplaining smack-down.

@Troy perhaps not to @Cynique satisfaction. 

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