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TO MY NAY-SAY FRIENDS OF TYLER PERRY AND FOR COLORED GIRLS.

Blow it out your ass! Yeah, that's what I said, find a clue and some toilet paper.

Well carey,"Tyler Perry is a Black dysfunction porn pimp. He thinks that because he's so dysfunctional that all Black people are as well. I think Oprah falls into this category too"

Is that right? Well let me tell you a thang or two. I get so tired of negros that watch a movie, and then cry about how it makes "us" look. Give me a freaking break! First, it's a damn movie, okay. It's one story in time. It's one of a thousand avenues in which one could draw a conclusion and/or opinion on any number of topics including race, sexual abuse, or rather or not the Miami Heat will win the NBA Championship. Depending on who you ask, it's highly probably a mega-ton of thoughts will follow.

And please excuse me, did I miss the memo? When did the mystical "ambiguous" other folks (eye in the sky) ever love us? I mean, did I miss the call that said we've been loved for the last 200 years? If there was no such doctrine, then why (NOW?) are some folks concerned with how a movie (one movie) projects a black face, or highlights real issues within our community?

Come on, if a person gets their core knowledge from a damn movie and uses that "limited" knowledge to draw a conclusion based solely from that source, THAT person is an idiot!Consequently, if someone worries about that fools opinion, then hey, what does that say about them?

So Tyler Perry portrays the black man as an evil usurper of woman. So... and? And what, those monsters don't exist? Spare me, Tyler Perry didn't create those brutal men, look out your window, or look in your family tree. Please, lets keep this real. Who's fooling who?

Listen, personally I do not think Tyler Perry is a great director. But that opinion is not based on the subject matter in his films. Why should it? And now we have some folks attacking the man's character because some of his films include abused women and whorish men. Lordy lordy, we don't want that to get out. The general public can't handle that new (news). What will they think of us now? Do you hear me.... nothing has changed because there's nothing to change.

Didn't the same freaks come out at night when "Precious" landed. Didn't I hear the same black zombies and mammy rags cry foul? Sure I did. In fact, I wrote a song about it. Here it goes...

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The greatest show on earth. The most super-fabulous, splenderocious, Mega-magnanimous event of the year. Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you Ray "Jamie Fox" Charles vs Mary "Mo’nique" Jones. Tyler Perry and the man that raped the woman in For Colored Girls.

But first, let’s get the preliminary fights out of the way.

I am still alive. I mean, I watched the movies "Precious" and "Ray" and For Colored Girls, and I am still here. That must make me a special kind of survivor - huh? I don’t feel compelled to shoot heroin or rape my daughter, so I must be special. My white neighbors still wave at me as they pass by. I don’t know what they are saying in their homes, nor do I care.

A Precious lived down the street from me. The rumors and whispers surrounding the father of her children have stood the test of time. We called her father, Icewater.

The other day I passed by the welfare office. I spotted several "Mo`niques" exchanging Newport cigarettes. I knew some of them – I waved and kept driving.

I know several women that have been brutalized by the hands of men. In fact, last year, one was murdered by the hands of her lover. And check this, ol'boy had done it before. After doing a ten year bit, he got out and did it again. Now he's doing life.

Let me continue. Last week I accompanied my granddaughter to her school. Ms. Cornrolls, the schools receptionist , greeted me with a smile. I returned the favor and threw in a hug.

I’ve coached teenage thugs. I know their mothers and fathers.

I am still alive. "Precious" and "Ray" and "For Colored Girls" are movies. Can we move forwards?

Did Mo`nique kill the part of Precious Jones!? Did she not waver in that role? Wasn’t she the epitome of every abusive mother in the world. How about Kimberly Elise in FCG? Did she bring her A-game or what? Thandie Newton might not get an Oscar nod for her performance but she was the best whorish tramp that I've seen in some time. But wait, they were black women in despair, so we can't champion their roles, can we?

Jamie Fox was Ray Charles. While watching "Ray" I witnessed Jamie morph into Ray Charles, one of the greatest R & B singers of all time. And remember, Ray Charles was a heroin addict. I wonder how many people bought a trey bag after watching that movie?

In every detail, Mo`nique captured my vision of the quintessential angry, hostile, vicious, manipulative, cunning and insecure women. She took me there. And wait, Ray Charles was a womanizer. I wonder what the white man thinks about that. Well, no I don't.

I understand Ray Charles addiction to heroin. I also understand the resentment Mary Jones had for her daughter, however, I do not condone either’s behavior. Yet, I am sure neither individual signed up for that road of ignorance. Therefore, I refuse to convict them for their character flaws or lay total blame at their feet, nor that of Lee Daniels, the director of Precious. Mary Jones said "I did what my mother told me".

I few days ago, a friend of mine told me that Mr. So-n-So was a good man. I asked her how she knew that. She paused, then said "well, he had a good job and tired to show his son’s how to be men". I asked her if she’d ever been in his house. She said it was a dirty mess. She went on to say there were rumors of him abusing his wife. Rumors mind you, but she did notice his wife’s soft steps when in the company of her husband. My friend was married to this man’s son. She said he was the worst SOB she’d ever known. He abused her for 30 years. Opps, I shouldn't talk about that, right?

Mo `nique (Mary Jones) did what her mother told her. She pointed a finger at Precious and said, "It’s this bitches fault, she made [my man] leave. She let him have her. She made him leave, who else is gonna love me!?". That damn Lee Daniels and Tyler Perry, they're always throwing that mess in our face, right? Wrong, the mess was already in our face, some folks just don't want to look at it.

Jamie Fox’s portrayal of Ray Charles was one of the best performance I `ve seen in my lifetime.

The scene in the welfare office with Mariah Carey (Ms. Weiss) and Precious was grand theater. Mo `nique’s acting in that scene was probably the best performance that I `ve ever witnessed by a black actress. No, not probably, it was the best performance I ‘ve ever seen. I’d argue against any contenders.

Tyler Perry's latest effort may not be Oscar worthy, and truthfully, it's not. However, much of the criticism is pointed in the wrong direction. But really, and more importantly, what can we REALLY do to change the minds of those that love to swim in negativity? Think about that.

And think about why I didn't give my overall review of For Colored Girls? Well, I'll tell you. This morning I talked about this movie for about 3 hours. I got strung out debating this movie with the poet laureate of our city. Really, that's her official title. So I had my hands full. Then my daughter called and it was on again. So I was worn out. But if you ask me a few questions, I can't tell a lie.

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Oh puleeze. What a flip-flop. You seemed to have forgotten that you posted a video in which you bashed and ridiculed Tyler Perry in general and this movie specifically - before it had even come out! Git outta here. You're full of it, carey. If some folks don't like this movie, so what? Who are you to lecture them?? Still consider yourself the director of black protocol. stfu.

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Did you miss the point.... AGAIN! I saw the movie... DID YOU? Were you listening? I did not say I liked the movie.

1. We don't go support movies that show us in a good light. Otherwise, those movies would be on the big screen. You want more movies like that, find them and go see those.

2. TP is telling someone's story. Just like with Precious -- that is someone's story and it is worth being told.

3. TP made a play into a movie. A woman wrote this play, she wrote the skeleton of what would become the movie, not Tyler. Critique his directing skills, his casting skills or his screenplay writing skills but don't critique the story.

4. Hating on a TP film just because TP is affiliated with it is so 2007. Stop it.

This film deserves some critiques for sure, but not just because some people don't like his earlier works. I tire, I do, of black folks thinking every movie with a predominantly black cast has to reflect their life's story. Would I like to see more stuff on TV and the movies that look more like what I've experienced? Hells yeah, but I will never knock someone else's story getting told because it happens to be different from mine.

Go see the movie and then come back and talk about something you know.... Geeez

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YOU are the one who is missing the point, carey. As usual, you are rebutting claims that I didn't make. I called you out because you were exhibiting the inconsistencies that taint all of your arguments. I never knocked the movie. I simply quoted what other critics said. YOU came out the box putting down Tyler and this movie just a few weeks ago, now suddenly you are his staunchest defender, suggesting everybody should support the film whether they like it or not. Why? Because YOU say so. People are entitled to follow their own convictions about this film, and nobody needs you to try and whip them in line like you are some kind of an overseer. Take all of your hot air blow it up your azz.

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Cynique, up my ass you say... ouuuuu, I love it when you talk nasty :rolleyes:

But hold down there my friendly maiden, like a natural man, I did say I didn't think Tyler could pull this off, but unlike you, I went to see the film and then voiced my opinion on the final product. My problem are with those that have not seen the movie, yet are making statements about it's contents. Granted, people can do as they please, however, if they make bogus statements about the movie... AGAIN, in which they have not seen, they should expect an ass checkin'.

And remember, I did not say I enjoyed the movie. There was however, standout performances. So, one-mo-again, I am suggesting that people should talk about what they know.

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And btw Cynique, I know you don't do this very often, but I invite you to stop by the blog and read the comments which are know up to 20. You'll be surprised at what you might find. You can even post as anonymous. I've opened that option just for you. Let your voice be heard by over a thousand people across America and several countries. And, Although you can't see it (Troy can) I recently link this page to a facebook account, and I know a few have dropped by this site.

You will not be the first visitor to come by way of AALBC. The last one came from Tucker, Georgia.... **waving at them**

So say it loud, like you're black and proud... HERE: http://careycarey-ca...r-perry_13.html

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Okay Cynique, if you're not convinced that this movie has much more to offer than what you've (or Troy) have been told, check out the following;

Many are saying it was a male bashing movie, but (imo) they missed the point. If one really listened to the poems (and words), they would find the real jewel. One scene stuck out in my mind. Phylicia Rashad entered Kimberly Elise’s (Crystal) apartment. Crystal had just lost her children, and was in a very depressed state.

Rashad open the blinds to a darked apartment and said, ” What is your plan, what you gonna do baby. You gonna just lay here and die? It wasn’t just him honey.[Crystal] “but I tried to stop him” Rashad: You had to stop him long before he got to that window.[Crystal] Are you saying it’s my fault?

Rashad: “What I’m saying Crystal, you gonna have to take responsibility for some of this. How much of it you take is up to you, but you gotta take some of it. Until you do, you just gonna be living to die. I know it hurts, but you gotta get up from here. [Crystal] “But it didn’t save my babies”

Rashad: “Then save some other woman’s babies, help another woman who is missing what you’re missing. There’s to much life wrapped in your voice. You gotta get up!” (I believe Tyler wrote those lines)

That dialog spoke to the message “clean your side of the street” .

This movie was not about male bashing. It was about self-discovery. Look at Tangie’s whorish, trampish, nasty ass. Was that male bashing? How about Macy Gray's character? How about her green teeth and speech about how she made it "out". Yeah, as she sat there smoking a cigerette and drinking whisky... while she performed an abortion

Let me continue. In Anika Noni Rose’s (Yasmine) scene at the hospital, another message spoke loud and clear… “the stranger, is not always “the stranger” . You have to hear all of her words. In my opinion, that scene might be the best of them all. Well it's a toss up between Elise's performances and those of Anika Rose. They both killed their parts.

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Good grief, carey. What about my statement that "the messsage of this movie is in the eye of the beholder", don't you understand????? Talk about a numb skull. YOU are the one who is convinced that I am not convinced that this movie has much more to offer than those who criticize it. I had no problem with Kola and Linda's critiques of this movie. I thought Courtland Milloy's article about it was funny and I agreed with what all reviewers have concluded: that this play lost something in the translation; it sacrificed its artistic integrity on the altar of mass appeal when it was transformed into a movie.

Once again you are attempting to deflect attention from how I exposed your earlier bashing of this movie before you saw it. You are so transparent.

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Is that right? Well let me tell you a thang or two. I get so tired of negros that watch a movie, and then cry about how it makes "us" look. Give me a freaking break! First, it's a damn movie, okay. It's one story in time. It's one of a thousand avenues in which one could draw a conclusion and/or opinion on any number of topics including race, sexual abuse, or rather or not the Miami Heat will win the NBA Championship.

Good point. I totally agree. I'll check the movie out and get back wit ya. A black female friend of mine and her girlfriend saw the movie last week and they both liked it. So, it got two thumbs up. I'll render my verdict this weekend....

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Actually people who complain about how others cry about how a movie makes "us" look are, themselves, crying about how it makes "us" look when we cry about how a movie makes "us" look. So, there.

Where "FCG" is concerned I say to all black men that if the shoe fits, then go buy a larger pair and grow into them. And to those whose feet aren't cramped after seeing this movie, keep on keeping those toenails cut short. Your mate will love for this.

For those colored girls considering suicide when the rainbow is enuff, - damn! Why are the Bulls' games such nail-biters?? They always win or lose in the final seconds!

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