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Astrological Prediction the end of Trump's Presidency

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6 hours ago, Kalexander2 said:

Excuse me! I think you mean 'distract' eyeballs.

 

No, I actually atrract eyeballs, as in attract eyeballs to their platforms to collect more behavioral data and serve more advertisements.

 

But to your point, it serves to distract us from understanding and knowing what is important.

 

6 hours ago, Kalexander2 said:

We can learn more from lies than the truth.

 

This logic of the statement completely

escapes me. Perhaps an example of this would help.

 

6 hours ago, Kalexander2 said:

Your prediction 45 will finish his term and/or reelected appeared circumstantially based, not on historical or legal facts, but on reasonable speculation; is little more than a hunch.

 

Still my reasoning proved far more accurate than your consumption of lies. I'll still with ignoring social provides news and stick with books, long form articles, and lectures by knowledgable people.

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7 hours ago, Troy said:

@Delano that right there is why we see things so differently

Exactly I can tell by your comment you aren't watching the news on Trump not even spot checking. At some point do you binge to catch up on what you may have missed? 

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18 minutes ago, Troy said:

attract eyeballs to their platforms to collect more behavioral data and serve more advertisements

 

And even then the attracted eyeballs see', at least, some accurate data. It's how data miners, advertisers, and BS artists establish credibility. Do you not know how to distinguish fact from fiction? Contrary to conventional wisdom, the trees are not a distraction from seeing the forest; they are in the forest. But you won't find any whales or sharks there. If you get my point.

 

31 minutes ago, Troy said:

This logic of the statement completely

escapes me. Perhaps an example of this would help.

 

Who cares about honest, popular truths we already know. What's important is the explanation behind reasons of why anyone would obscure a truth. i.g., "I already know the truth, that 45 is a wannabe con man dictator who merits impeachment"; that truth isn't important. What's important is why anyone would think otherwise. More important is the explanation behind that reason. This way of looking at matters serves to validate or invalidate my cynicism. Keeps me open-minded and reasonable safe from buying BS.

 

45 minutes ago, Troy said:

my reasoning proved far more accurate

 

Drawing from your inferences and conclusions, from books alone does little more than form your ideas; and those ideas, further shaped by 'so-called' "long-form articles, and lectures by knowledgeable people" render you an extension of someone else. If you truly know the truth, as you infer then the lies you seek to avoid leaves you incomplete and misinformed, still.

 

Information, truths, and lies are like healthy cobalt for the body, you get it by eating a little of everything in your local supermarket.

 

My reasoning, I try inductive and deductive logic. But my particular way of thinking, especially when based on what I think is good judgment often remain wanting. Just like you and most people. Hence, you winning that last wager was not act or prediction of genius; it was speculation made on a hunch. Please, don't fall into the trap of denouncing daily intake of information, whether social media or news (left and right-wing). The truth lay in everything and to find it you must look everywhere.

 

 

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9 hours ago, Troy said:

You follow the news regularly. I don't.  However, I knew 45 would still be in office after two years and you did not believe he would.  How did consuming all that minute by minute news coverage help you?  Serious question whether you choose to answer it or not think about it.

Think about the name of this thread. It's an Astrological Prediction. Also our second bet you only pay if he is either impeached or terminated in January. Which is an astrological prediction. Like I said of I get it wrong I'll give up on political prediction. 

 

As an aside I have given up on trying to convince people that astrology works. Actually I moving to not trying to convince anyone to rethink their position.  So may post my go from beige to straight white bread 

 

 

1 hour ago, Kalexander2 said:

"I already know the truth, that 45 is a wannabe con man dictator who merits impeachment"; that truth isn't important. What's important is why anyone would think otherwise

Good point. What's the answer 

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51 minutes ago, Kalexander2 said:

Do you not know how to distinguish fact from fiction?

 

Not always. It depends. 

 

You believed that 45 would not last two years. Why? What "facts" led you to that conclusion?

 

I told you the truth and you rejected it, losing $50 in the process. Even this very moment you dismiss my recognizing the truth as "speculation made on a hunch!?" 

 

So you can't see it. That is fine. You will. The question is will you accept the truth next year?

 

1 minute ago, Delano said:

Which is an astrological prediction. Like I said of I get it wrong I'll give up on political prediction. 

 

Ok, point taken.

 

So in this case my so called  "hunch," "Trumped" astrology huh?

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2 minutes ago, Troy said:

 

So in this case my so called  "hunch," "Trumped" astrology huh

No your hunch trumped my delineation. 

If I win the next bet then astrology wins over your analysis or truth. 

 

It's like if a Black person commits a crime it's all Black people. If a Black person succeeds They are an individual.

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18 minutes ago, Troy said:

You believed that 45 would not last two years. Why? What "facts" led you to that conclusion?

 

 

It was inductive reasoning;  45's behavior and official findings based on truths provided some evidence they'll force him out of office, my conclusion. Logic is neither right nor wrong, except in formal science. And deductive reasoning, derived from many sources. Loss of $50 bucks, because 45 lasted two-years, does not make me wrong. Technically, nor you a winner, That charity is the winner. Reasonably logical!

 

37 minutes ago, Delano said:

Good point. What's the answer

 

Conclusively, Robert Mueller's impeccable reputation of honor and impartiality lack the guts to call a spade a spade; well hidden behind his white male Republican agenda most likely coordinated with Barr, and others, to distort and/or conceal true findings of his own investigation. Including his insistence on a non—public testimony before Congress, because he does not want to politicize his testimony. BS!!! He, Pelosi, Schumer, Sanders, Biden, and all of them stand invested for other than the people; whether 45 stays or goes. And let's not even get started on the GOP, 45 and his base. Hence, cynicism validated, not a damn thing will be okay for Black folk in America, ever!

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Mueller was charged with find out what happened. He's supposed to be nonpartisan and not to interpret what those findings mean. Or at least that's my understanding. 

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6 minutes ago, Delano said:

charged with find out what happened. He's supposed to be nonpartisan and not to interpret

 

That's true. And if you really think Mueller is nonpolitical and impartial, there's a river here in the desert I'll sell to you for cheap. Correction, the duty, and charge of the DOJ are to safeguard and enforce Federal laws that protect the people and the Constitution. Mueller had a duty to make a call, especially since no prior precedence denies or forbids him to make it; just as there's no prior precedence that would permit or deny him to offer public testimony, as opposed to private. America didn't come to be without 'testing the waters'. even in the face of rejection by the SC. It's interesting to see where Mueller goes from here. Back into retirement or a permanent appointment. Just speculating.

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https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3726408-Rosenstein-letter-appointing-Mueller-special.html#document/p1

 

 

Special counselor falls under DOJ. Just like the Vice Squad is a division of the police force. Athe times both investigate their governing body. 

 

He alooked took issue with the interpretation of William Barr. Who is I  effect his boss. He appears to be a man of integrity. How many times have you seen an employee stand up to a superior? 

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I  think he played his  part brilliantly. His investigation made money for the government in addition to showing how the system of buying and selling influence works. How many convictions and how much in fines as the result of the special counsel. 

 

No leaks and he is thorough. Not only did he get Trump's inner circle he gave information to other courts. So even if he got shut down he would still get the job done. 

 

Trumps taxes both personal and business are in play as a direct result of the investigation. Which is going to involve fines and possible jail time for Trump. 

 

The only reason Trump is getting done is because he overreached. You can steal and skim but if you want to be the emperor or dictator even the moneyed elite get nervous. He may have killed the Golden Goose. The other thing is y hat laws are currently being written as a direct result of not repeating Trump. I said it back in 2015 we are witnessing huge geopolitical shifts. And the  "end" of America 

 

 

However time will tell 

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True to all that! Yes, he did his job (with minimum impartiality, but some partiality nonetheless) of investigating 45 with honor and distinction, no one can question that. It's that "honorable distinction" part I have a problem with, among other issues. "Professional Courtesy" among lawyers and doctors is not a requirement, it's a discretionary choice. Most don't like to sue or question the other's integrity. And some don't mind. Robert Mueller is a professional who practices and believes in professional courtesy. That's why he did only not say anything nasty but refrained for saying anything substantial. The opening of his report's introduction should have left no room for interpretation; stated from the beginning whether he found collusion, conspiracy, and obstruction of justice; for the greater good, not out of professional courtesy.

 

Mueller watched Barr's confirmation hearing just as you and I did. And to opine he didn't see what our lay perspective missed would away from the credit we give him.  He knows Barr personally, and to watch his colleague refuse to offer a yes or no to whether he'd provide full disclosure is suspicious, on the high end; evasive on the low end. Mueller's career didn't skyrocket because he's a great person, he excelled because he's a damn good prosecutor. What's the difference between this Don and Teflon Don he took down so many years ago? Is the question I ask. Or perhaps we're wrong about his lawyering skills, or his courage to present an indictment case against a sitting president, to the Supreme Court. He wasn't shy about going after the mob.

2 hours ago, Delano said:

 

Yeah, Rod Rosenstein's another twisted faced sycophant. But he covered himself while giving cover to Mueller too: "If the Special Counsel believes it is necessary and appropriate, the Special Counsel is authorized to prosecute federal crimes arising from the investigation of these matters. (d) Sections 600.4 through 600. l 0 of Title 28 of the Code of Federal Regulations are applicable to the Special Counsel." I'm just saying.

 

 

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