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A man can support the feminist cause but he can't be a feminist. 

Origin

Late 19th century: from French féministe, from Latin femina ‘woman’.

It is long because you didn't answer the question. 

No attorney man can't be a feminist he can only support the feminist cause. Imagine the feminist movement run by all men. Imagine the civil rights movement run by all white people. 

 

The root of feminism is woman. 

Origin

Late 19th century: from French féministe, from Latin femina ‘woman’.

 

I am going to stop discussing this topic. Someone else can debate it with you. It strikes me as odd to have two men debating feminism. Which is exactly my point. 

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Del it strikes you as odd because you are being unnecessarily closed minded.

 

Dude, the abolitionists, fighting to free the slaves were virtually all white people.  John Brown gave his life for the cause.  Enslaved Black people were not in a position to advocate for themselves. as free white people. Does this not make sense to you?

 

Also you dont you read some of the literature regarding men an feminism.  First you'll discover the dictionary definitions, you often site, don't shed any understanding on a subject. 

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Troy you have your position and I have a different one. Which is a function of the differences in our lives.

I'll give you an example as kids the biggest insult was to call another guy a faggot. However the same kids went to the Paradise Garage. They were underage boys and we're let in on Gay night. Later on I was in a relationship with a bisexual feminist. She said that was bigotry. To me at the time it was just words but I could hear her. I have had illuminating conversations with Lesbians and Gay men. About domestic violence amongst lesbians. Black Gay  men have talked about their being a sexual fetish to Gay white men while also being discriminated against. I have heard white women say that if they are alone, they fear white men more than black men. I have heard women admit to me in private that they find babies of another race more beautiful. I have had strangers and people I know unburden their hearts and minds. Then tell me they never told anyone that story. 

 

However I am neither capable more prepared to distill those moments that changed my world view. I am not suggesting that you can't , won't or even should. I am just acknowledging some gaps can't be bridged. 

Recently I have decided that certain points can't really be discussed.

My turning point was being called a racist because I mentioned white privilege. 

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I like your longer more thoughtful posts @Delano

 

It takes a cetrain type of person the go to the Paradise Garage any night let alone gay night. :-) 

 

There is book that im adding to the site tonight that talks about the village and how it has been changed because artists and the like can no longer afford to live there.  This is happening all over the city... it is a shame too because tbe city is losing its distinct character traded in for Starbucks and Amazon home delivery.

 

I let my home serve as a green room for a pride event it really was an incredible event the variety of people who came through was just remarkable....

 

I know that is a side bar, but your thoughts triggered these memories.

 

Maybe you are a racist;  Not a lynch-a-nigger, genocidal racist, but someone who simply perfers others who are more like them maybe it is human nature.

 

But thoughts are one thing and actions are an entirely different thing and you defintely don't behave like a racist.  I think that is all that matters

 

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