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Okay, let me preview this article: I posted this scientific finding about the MUTATION of Brown eyes to being Blue due to a recent post on the subjects in a couple of threads. My parents tell me, out of my siblings that I was born with blue eyes and red hair and red skin. By the time of my 4th month baby picture, I can see that my eyes were light brown, and my hair and skin was very red. Not anymore. My siblings came out brown. One of my younger siblings was born very chocolate and she was clean bald but later, she grew beautiful and very black hair that does not ‘fro’, but it has a combination texture.

 

A couple of years ago, scientist determined that BLUE EYES was a MUTATION that occurred around 6,000 years ago and it stems from A BLACK MALE AFRICAN ORIGIN. They report several archeological proofs puts this event around the BLACK SEA AREA. Based on my research, I absolutely agree. Blonde hair and Blue eyes is NOT a White European trait in origin for significant reasons and although the scholars today give partial break down on this subject, it still is scientifically based.

 

Blue eyes stem from ‘PIGMENTATION’ and without this, eyes will not have any coloring such as in a pure ALBINO. So this has been obvious to the scientific community for a long time, but for some reason they just are reporting this now. Like Blue eyes, ‘Blonde hair’ also has pigmentation! –But not, White hair. There is a difference between Blonde hair, White hair and Graying hair. BTW—This would be the same account given in my reference source, scientific reference source, about the Biblical Cain. His descendants migrated NODEAST [ie. NORTHEAST] and that would have been, Northeast of 'Eden' where the four rivers began, and thus, around the Black Sea Area were the first ancient city-civilization set up in CATAL HUYUK.

 

 

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How one ancestor helped turn our brown eyes blue

Thursday 31 January 2008 01:00

Steve Connor

 

“The mutations responsible for blue eye colour most likely originate from the north-west part of the Black Sea region, where the great agricultural migration of the northern part of Europe took place in the Neolithic periods about 6,000 to 10,000 years ago,” the researchers report in the journal Human Genetics….

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/how-one-ancestor-helped-turn-our-brown-eyes-blue-776170.html

 

 

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Blue-Eyed African Caveman Found In Europe

Paul Rogers, Contributor

 

A stone-age hunter’s wisdom tooth has revealed that he had an unusual mix of racial traits – dark, African skin, curly brown hair and blue eyes.

Preliminary DNA analysis of the exceedingly well-preserved 7,000-year-old skeleton, dubbed Brana-1, has overturned ideas about the descent of modern Europeans.

Although the hunter’s closest modern-day relatives live in Sweden and Finland, the genes for his skin colour are African….

https://www.forbes.com/sites/paulrodgers/2014/01/27/stone-age-hunter-had-blue-eyes-and-dark-african-skin/

 

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Don't It Make Your Brown Eyes Blue?

Feb. 1, 2008 , 12:00 AM

Blue-eyed? Thank a genetic switch that turns off your body's ability to make brown pigment in your peepers. Researchers have finally located the mutation that causes blue eyes, and the findings suggest that all blue-eyed humans share a single common ancestor born 6000 to 10,000 years ago.

Researchers have implicated the OCA2 gene in several eye colors. The gene is involved in the production of melanin, a pigment that gives hair and skin their hues

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2008/02/dont-it-make-your-brown-eyes-blue

 

 

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Ethiopian boy has a form of albinism that only affects his eyes, turning them bright blue.

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Ethiopian boy with Ble eyes

 

 

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Babies with both Blonde Hair & Blue Eyes

 

 

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6 hours ago, Cynique said:

@Pioneer1 So much for all your blather about European traits that black women are trying to duplicate. Gravitating toward blond hair and blue eyes is in black DNA.  😛

 

 

 

 

 

I don't think people have a PROPER understanding of the differences between the Caucasian race and the Black races (there are two Black races...African and Indian).
And this misunderstanding often leads to confusion.

OFCOURSE Black people have the gene that causes blonde hair and blue eyes.
Almost EVERY gene that Caucasian people have is also contained within the Black races as well because they are essentially a COPY of us.

They CAME FROM us.

We almost everything they have but they DON'T have many of the things we have.

Does that make sense?

A good analogy would be white bread and wheat bread.
White bread comes from DE-NATURED wheat....which is why it's white.
It's not whole.
It's not complete.
It's missing something.

Whatever features you can find in white bread can also be found in wheat bread, but MORE features are in wheat bread because it's made from the whole complete germ.

It's the same with the races.

Black people (African or Indian) have the same genes Caucasians have so ofcourse we can produce blue eyes, blonde hair, pale skin , ect........but we can also produce much much more than they can because we are the original whole and COMPLETE.

I hope that is clear.

 

 

 

 

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25 minutes ago, Cynique said:

What's not clear is why you don't deep six your nonsense about black women and their relationship with blond hair.  Your view on this doesn't hold water.

 


I know it's not clear to you dear.....

:( And unfortunately for you, there just aren't enough specialists licensed by the state to properly work with people like you who perhaps could HELP you understand such advanced concepts.

 

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20 hours ago, Cynique said:

So much for all your blather about European traits that black women are trying to duplicate. Gravitating toward blond hair and blue eyes is in black DNA

 

@Cynique yes!!!

14 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

OFCOURSE Black people have the gene that causes blonde hair and blue eyes.
Almost EVERY gene that Caucasian people have is also contained within the Black races as well because they are essentially a COPY of us.

 

absolutely!

14 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

They CAME FROM us.

@Pioneer1 Truth!

14 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

We almost everything they have but they DON'T have many of the things we have.

Does that make sense?

@Pioneer1 Yes. It makes sense to me!

 

Okay... LOL... that is enough. 

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17 hours ago, Troy said:

Dark color eyes provide better protection of the retina from bright lights because of the increased melamin.

 

Cosmetically, some Black people prefer the look of light colored eyes because it is different, relatively unique. 

 

Elijah Muhammad taught that one of the reasons Caucasians were able to come among Africans, Native Americans, and other people of color and take advantage of them was because they were "unalike".
They looked and acted so much differently.

He said that with their white skin, blonde hair, and blue/green eyes they looked so much different than the darker population and thus they were "attractive" and people wanted to get to know them and about them better.

 

Just like most heterosexual women find very masculine men attractive and most heterosexual men find very feminine women attractive....unlike attracts (on a physical level).

 

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On 1/18/2019 at 11:34 AM, Pioneer1 said:

Elijah Muhammad taught that one of the reasons Caucasians were able to come among Africans, Native Americans, and other people of color and take advantage of them was because they were "unalike".
They looked and acted so much differently.

Why would anybody place any credibility in Elijah Muhammad's teachings? He has no credentials. Anybody can make up stories to support their beliefs.

 

On 1/18/2019 at 4:42 AM, Chevdove said:

I don't view a mutation as an upgrade.

But nonetheless, some mutations are beneficial.

If mutations survive and thrive and dominate who they mutated from, then they are an upgrade.   

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7 minutes ago, Cynique said:

If mutations survive and thrive and dominate who they mutated from, then they are an upgrade.   

 

Some mutations survive and dominate because of environment.  Dark skinned people would suffer from Vitamin D deficiency in northern climates, while light skinned people would be able to better able to make due with limited sunlight because of a lack of melanin.  This is an adaptation which could be considered an "upgrade" in northern environments.  However that same fair skinned person would burn up if they moved closer to the equator, because they are less well suited to deal with the sun.

 

Larger brains and opposable thumbs are definite upgrades, though not equally enjoyed by all homo sapiens....

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Yes, but it depends upon the environment.  People of recent African descent are not optimized, genetically, for living in places live New York, Chicago, or Detroit.   Indeed, many Black folks suffer from vitamin D deficiency which can diversely effect one's bones. 

 

White folks down here, in the south, must protect their skin with sunblock or they will suffer from sun burn and even skin cancer. I don't think I've ever been sun burned.

 

Genetic adaptation takes a looooong time.  Of course people can adapt by using suitable clothing and shelter.  So if you can take someone else's shelter, clothing, and other resources that makes you the "fittest," nullifying any benefits of genetic adaptation. 

 

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Troy

Whew!


Lol.....
Naaaaah bruh, that ain't happening over THIS way.

I'd get with a masculine WOMAN and wrestle some love out of her before messing around with the most feminine of men, lol.

 

 

 

Dark skinned people would suffer from Vitamin D deficiency in northern climates, while light skinned people would be able to better able to make due with limited sunlight because of a lack of melanin. This is an adaptation which could be considered an "upgrade" in northern environments.


I was actually thinking this very thing and have heard it for years.
They put Vitamin D in the milk but most AfroAmericans are also lactose intolerant after 25 or so years of age.

 

 

 

 

 



Cynique

 

Why would anybody place any credibility in Elijah Muhammad's teachings? He has no credentials. Anybody can make up stories to support their beliefs.


Well, that's a question for the hundreds of thousands of people who followed and STILL continue to follow and put faith in his teachings.

Infact, you can find hundreds of them right there in Illinois.

Why don't you go up to one of them or several of them and ASK them why would they place any credibility in such a man.
I dare you.....lol.

 

 

So do African Americans suffered from winter any worse than European Americans people do?


You go to any construction or road repair site even in the Winter time and you're routinely see White men working with no hats or gloves or heavy clothing but the frigid air seems not to bother them as much and in most cases not at all.

I even routinely see White people of all ages in SHORTS with a foot of snow on the ground and the wind howling.

How many Black or Latinx people have you seen doing that on a regular basis?
 

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3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Well, that's a question for the hundreds of thousands of people who followed and STILL continue to follow and put faith in his teachings.

Infact, you can find hundreds of them right there in Illinois.

 

i don't care how many hundreds of people accept Elijah Muhammad's  foolishness, which is no more credible than the immaculate conception millions of Catholics believe.  Black Muslims must all be concentrated in one area, - mostly in prison.  I am not around any of them and neither is anybody i know. In all of my life, i have personally never known a black Muslim.    You guys just can't accept, that millions of black people  in cities and town and villages  all over this vast country have gone through life, and never had any contact with followers of Elijah Muhammad.  And it doesn't seem to occur to you  that the same media you  excoriate, is who made Malcolm X and  Farrakhan and  Elijah Muhammad famous.

7 hours ago, Troy said:

White folks down here, in the south, must protect their skin with sunblock or they will suffer from sun burn and even skin cancer. I don't think I've ever been sun burned.

Black people are advised to use sun block just like white folks are.  Over exposure to sun rays is harmful.    They just don't do it.  And they do tan.  I and everybody in my family does, and so do lots of other "blacks" i know tan. And certainly not all black folks are lactose intolerantor lacking in Vitamin D which can be harmful if too much of it is ingested.    When it comes to an assessment of  African Americans who number in the tens of millions, all you can do is generalize.  

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Of course these are generalizations. Most African Americans are are mixture of people from all over the world. Hence some are lactose intolerant and others are not.

 

Some African Americans will burn in the sun too as our level of melanin range greatly from high yellow to blue black.

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16 hours ago, Troy said:

This is an adaptation which could be considered an "upgrade" in northern environments. 

 

@Troy Yes! Thank you! That is the correct word 'ADAPTATION'. 

 

9 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

I even routinely see White people of all ages in SHORTS with a foot of snow on the ground and the wind howling.

How many Black or Latinx people have you seen doing that on a regular basis?
 

 

Yes, I see this in Boston happening all the time!!!--White college kids, and adults actually walking around in the snow, with flip flops and shorts!!! I am  NOT kidding. But then, there are other white folks that are like Blacks, in tht they wrap up and get cold too. 

 

I lived in a townhome with white girls and etc. and it is true, that they tolerate cold temperatures extremely well, more so than Blacks on the average. ANd this is scientifically defined so, that should not be hard to understand. Like Neanderthals, scientist even say that due to this admixture that Europeans express in their DNA, their skin is much thicker than people of African descent and this is a direct connection to how they can tolerate cold temperatures better than darker skinned people.

 

5 hours ago, Cynique said:

When it comes to an assessment of  African Americans who number in the tens of millions, all you can do is generalize

 

that is true. I agree that BLack people tan. I know I do. But @Troy spoke about 'skin burning'.

 

16 hours ago, Cynique said:

If mutations survive and thrive and dominate who they mutated from, then they are an upgrade.   

 

I agree in some cases, but not for the mutation of BLUE EYES. White people who are Supremacist want to view BLUE EYES as being 'an upgrade' and want to view dark traits as being negative. But the MUTATION OF BLUE EYES still today carry a lot of defects! Many people who have blue eyes are also COLOR BLIND and have many other issues due to this mutation. So, in the case of BLUE EYES, it is definitely NOT an upgrade. It is definitely beneficial, though. 

 

 

 

 

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And it doesn't seem to occur to you that the same media you excoriate, is who made Malcolm X and Farrakhan and Elijah Muhammad famous.


Malcolm, Farrakhan, and Elijah were all famous...among those they WANTED to be famous among....long before the media made them so.
The media just capitalized off of what was already popular.
Infact, in many cases the media tried to do the opposite and actually made them famous by their initial attempts to demonize them.



 

 



Troy

Of course these are generalizations. Most African Americans are are mixture of people from all over the world. Hence some are lactose intolerant and others are not.


Going by that logic.....
We all know that there are some Caucasians who tan well and don't get sunburned so they don't need sun screen. Imagine if the focus was entirely on THEM rather than the majority of Caucasians who actually DO need sunscreen for their protection?
The incidents of skin cancer would skyrocket.

Some generalizations are true and necessary.

Yes some AfroAmericans aren't lactose intolerant but MOST ARE and this needs to be considered when advising AfroAmericans on a proper diet.

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4 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Malcolm, Farrakhan, and Elijah were all famous...among those they WANTED to be famous among....long before the media made them so.
The media just capitalized off of what was already popular.
Infact, in many cases the media tried to do the opposite and actually made them famous by their initial attempts to demonize them.

If these are the "words of wisdom",  a phrase  you had the gall to think should be inserted into a conversation about my unfulfilled dreams, then stuff it!  You weren't around back in the late 1950s  and early 60s when both TV and black militancy were in their nascent stages.  I was, immersed in the zeitgeist of the era and i witnessed the rise and fall of all of the big names of the day, - thanks to news coverage. So when it comes to this subject, you are just doing what you always do; come up with an opinionated rationale because you can't deal with anything that doesn't fortify your self-appointed role as the arbitrator of all things black.  Malcolm X, in his capacity as a spokesman for Elijah Muhammad, came into national prominence via television talk show panels which were all the rage back then. Guys like him and Black Panther, Eldridge Cleaver, whose book "Soul On Ice" was a best seller and, of course, MLK and his passive resistance tactics were the beneficiaries of the media who who gave them a platform and outlet for their messages and they were all glad for the opportunities to popularize their views, rather than just being big fish in little ponds. None of them ever shunned publicity. 

 

Back then, as now,  Black Muslim enclaves that existed in a few scattered inner cities were in the category of sects like the Amish, who the majority of black folks knew little about.   And the media never really made a concerted effort to demonize Malcolm X,  who it begrudgingly respected.  As for Farrakhan, he demonized himself.  All the media did was to print his fiery quotes and air his  public vitriol and people formed their own opinions depending on their political persuasion. 

 

Yesterday, today and tomorrow, the Black Muslims are not movers and shakers in the over-all black community. They are just window-dressing. Farrakhan is a paper tiger, - a cult hero,  and black Muslims have done no more for the masses of black people than the self-help programs of many other organizations. (They have never been active or instrumental in getting innocent  prisoners released on trump-up charges.)  And always, the question remains.  If the Muslims were so great, why didn't you join them? Just like if there is a conspiracy to feminize black men, why haven't you become feminized?  Why? because you think you are too extraordinary to be affected by these movements - as if this isn't the case with millions of other black people, many of whom are a lot smarter than you. 

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Cynique
 

You weren't around back in the late 1950s and early 60s when both TV and black militancy were in their nascent stages. I was


Well goooooooooooooooooooooooooooood for YOU !



Just like if there is a conspiracy to feminize black men, why haven't you become feminized?


Because nature won't allow it.
Somebody's gotta be man enough to keep YOUR ass in check, lol.

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2 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Because nature won't allow it.
Somebody's gotta be man enough to keep YOUR ass in check, lol.

Well, obviously you aren't the one to do this.  You don't actually  keep anybody in check around here. You just think you do because your inflated ego deludes you.   

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8 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:
On 1/24/2019 at 11:38 AM, Cynique said:

Well, obviously you aren't the one to do this.  You don't actually  keep anybody in check around here.   


.....wanna try me?

@Pioneer1If you kept me in check, you would silence me, not spur me to keep disputing you.  

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