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3 hours ago, Chevdove said:

"According to Nation of Islam terminology the term "Caucasian" means pale, weak blooded, and weak boned...that doesn't sound like African peoples."

 

Caucasians are people from the area of the Caucasus Mountains - Chechnya, Georgia (in Europe, not the USA), Azerbaijan, etc. These are people from that middle range between what is today "The Middle East" and south central Russia. These people have no ties at all to white Americans and white western Europeans. "WHITE PEOPLE" just steal everything and claim it for themselves.

 

Damn. I just heard the song "Love is a wonderful thing" by Michael Bolton about 10 minutes ago. The US Supreme Court and Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals ordered him to pay $5 million to the Isley Brothers because he stole their song. Look it up. White people mostly steal from black people. But they'll steal from their own too, as demonstrated by the term "Caucasian."

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Chev

OK.....now I think we're narrowing things down and getting somewhere.




Because of the amount of energy put out in exposing these ORIGINAL CAUCASIANS, I can see where they were indeed dark skinned people known by this term, or least the root term "CAUCA".


Now what was the EXACT name these original dark skinned peoples living in the area called?
I'm sure it wasn't just "Cauca"...so what was THEIR name?

 

 

 

 

Now here you go, saying something that is not backed up by any valid script references. The Cholchians were indeed 'African-typed' but they are not originally from Kemet on thier MALE LINEAGE. The book Black Spark, White Fire, is just one sorce that tells of their Northeastern origins. The Cholchians would be a better term to define the ORIGINAL CAUCASIANS, but nonetheless, both terms define the same people with the same origins. Many other sources state that the 12th Dynasty Egyptian pharaoh, colonized the northeast and he interacted with the Cholchians in Iberia. After this time, the Cholchians migrated down into Egypt and became apart of Egyptian history as a significant presence in Egypt. THE SECOND BRONZE AGE TIME SPAN.


I COULD be wrong about the origin of the Colchians, but I'm not sure.
We both agree they were what we call "Black", but were they from Egypt, Ethiopia, Sumeria, or even India...I'm not sure.

I came to my conclusions of them not being from there but having been SENT there along with other darker peoples to guard and keep the Caucasians contained in the region from a NUMBER of sources, among them are:


In Herodotus Histories Book 2 we read:

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"104 For it is plain to see that Colchians are Egyptians; and this that I say I myself noted before I heard it from others. When I began to think on this matter, I inquired of both peoples; and the Colchians remembered the Egyptians better than the Egyptians remembered the Colchians; the Egyptians said that they held the Colchians to be part of Sesostris' army. I myself guessed it to be p393 so, partly because they are dark-skinned and woolly-haired; "

 

 

So Herodotus says that he believes the Colchians are Egyptians because they are dark with kinky hair AND because he claims that Egyptians said they were part of an Egyptian army who were SENT there much earlier.
Usually Black people with kinky hair are from Africa...unlike the Black people of India and Elam who had STRAIGHT hair.




Also, in Message To The Black Man ch. 55 we read:

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"Yakub's made devils were driven out of Paradise, into the hills of West Asia (Europe), and stripped of everything but the language. They walked across that hot, sandy desert, into the land where long years of both trouble and joy awaited them; but -- they finally made it. (Not all: many died in the desert.)

 

Once there, they were roped in, to keep them out of Paradise. To make sure, the Muslims, who lived along the borders of East and West Asia, were ordered to patrol the border to keep Yakub's devils in West Asia (now called Europe), so that the original nation of black man could live in peace; and the devils could be alone to themselves, to do as they pleased, as long as they didn't try crossing the East border.

The soldiers patrolled the border armed with swords, to prevent the devils from crossing."

 


Now this from Nation of Islam theology supports what you said that the original people were already there; but it also supports what I said about them being guards to keep the wild Caucasians concealed in West Asia (where the Caucasus mountains are located).

Calling the Colchians the "original Caucasians" would be like calling the Hopi nation the "original Arizonans" or the Lenape nation the "original New Yorkers".

 

 

 

 

 

No, both terms AMAZIGH and BERBER signify 'African-typed' people,


I'm not exactly sure what the origins of the word "Amazigh" is but "Berber" came from a Greek term used for people who didn't speak Greek which pretty much means barbarian.

 

 

 

I believe they were a confederation of people but their beginning would be Original Seth people,


Now what do you mean by the "original Seth" people?
Lol, if Adam (the archetypical white man) wasn't original....how could his son Seth be?





 

 

 

 

Kareem

Caucasians are people from the area of the Caucasus Mountains - Chechnya, Georgia (in Europe, not the USA), Azerbaijan, etc. These are people from that middle range between what is today "The Middle East" and south central Russia. These people have no ties at all to white Americans and white western Europeans. "WHITE PEOPLE" just steal everything and claim it for themselves.

 

Yes brother the Caucasians are from the Caucasus mountains area, however ALL White people trace their origins there....not just those of Chechnya or Armenia.

The Armenians, Georgians, ect.....are just the Caucasians who STAYED in the region; but after they were civilized and organized themselves the vast majority branched out and spread west into Europe, south into Arabia, and west over into India.  This is the origin of the Noah's Ark myth and his family coming down the Ararat mountains and SPREADING OUT symbolizes the spreading of the Caucasian family through out the land.

Also, most of the Caucasians CURRENTLY occupying that area of the Caucasus mountains are not the exact same as thier ancestors because like the Italians they are heavily mixed with Arab genetics from the Muslims who occupied that area for centuries.
If they weren't as mixed with Arab ancestry from centuries of interbreeding they would look "whiter" and closer to their European bretheren.

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13 hours ago, Kareem said:

But they'll steal from their own too, as demonstrated by the term "Caucasian."

 

@Kareem I absolutely agree! I love what you wrote about Michael Bolton! 

 

11 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

OK.....now I think we're narrowing things down and getting somewhere.

 

 @Pioneer1 I hope so! LOL.

And, I appreciate your sources, and let me bring out some debate points:

 

Now what was the EXACT name these original dark skinned peoples living in the area called?
I'm sure it wasn't just "Cauca"...so what was THEIR name? As I have said, it was COLCHIAN, and the Biblical Magog would be a start point, but there are so many more script variations of th

ese names that were used in ancient times. But specifically, I asked you

 

OF WHOM DID THE WHITE 'CAUCASIANS' DESCEND FROM!? They did not just appear WHITE!!! These White people, CAUCASIANS, have sex and reproduce, likewise, they are hear today based upon SOMEONE having sex and eventually giving birth to their presence! 

 

You wrote: "I came to my conclusions of them not being from there but having been SENT there along with other darker peoples to guard and keep the Caucasians contained in the region from a NUMBER of sources, among them are:
In Herodotus Histories Book 2 we read: the Colchians remembered the Egyptians better than the Egyptians remembered the Colchians; the
 Egyptians said that they held the Colchians to be part of Sesostris' army." 

 

I have read this too!!! What you are not recognizing is that HERODOTUS is making a distinction between the EGYPTIANS and THE COLCHIANS!!! As I said, the Colchians were AEGYTPOS! They are not the Orginal Egyptians! This is what Herodotus means when he says that the Colchians remembered the Egyptians better than the Egyptians remembered them! 

 

Sesostris is what I was directly speaking about! He is the 12th Dynasty Pharaoh that colonized Russia! He is the one that caused many COLCHIANS to migrate down into Egypt!!!--to become apart of his army! Yes, now we are getting somewhere! We are narrowing this history down.

 

" ... guards to keep the wild Caucasians concealed in West Asia (where the Caucasus mountains are located)."

 

West Asia is not, nor ever, was considered to be WEST ASIA. The CAUCASUS It is directionally defined as THE NORTHEAST. West Asia would be defined as PERSIA [ie IRAN] and ARMENIA and etc. The borderlands though define history that includes mountain ranges that border the Caucasus mountains.  

Also WEST ASIA is absolutely NOT Europe! the term EURASIA defines both Europe and Asia. 

 

"Now this from Nation of Islam theology supports what you said that the original people were already there; but it also supports what I said about them being guards to keep the wild Caucasians concealed in West Asia (where the Caucasus mountains are located)."

 

This would be impossible. Even before Sesostris time, Cholchians were migrating everywhere. Sesostris just marks a movement in that he colonized ancient Russia, and at this time many Colchians became apart of Egypt. 

 

"Calling the Colchians the "original Caucasians" would be like calling the Hopi nation the "original Arizonans" or the Lenape nation the "original New Yorkers"."


"I'm not exactly sure what the origins of the word "Amazigh" is but "Berber" came from a Greek term used for people who didn't speak Greek which pretty much means barbarian."
 

Well, because of the intense history brought out about them, the term Caucasian can definitely be applied to the Colchians. I absolutely understand what you mean though, but again, their history has been well tract during ancient times, so therefore, the term does apply to them, the Colchians. They were very aggressive and dominant. Just as you wrote about the term 'Original Greeks' being wrong, this is because, today, a good connection has not been made of their transitional history of who they came to take over the land of the original people, but the Colchians have been well tract. The history is their though, about how the Classical Greeks took over and the earlier people from whom the Arabs came from, but it is not well brought out today. 

 

Yes, I understand that this term BERBER refers to BARBARIAN but that is not the original meaning! The term BERBER has been corrupted by the GREEKS!!!

The term BERBER contains the very root word of one main adjective and description of the Original people of the land of Europe and Eurasia!!!

 

***** IBERIA----SIBERIA----LIBERIA---THE IBERIAN PENINSULA [Russia]--- the IBERIANS of Spain and Portugal****

The older term  for the continent of EUROPE was BEREA--------- And this term originally did not mean Barbarian, but it meant FRUITFUL!!!

The term BEREA refers to A FRUITFUL LAND, as in the word BERRY. It defines the Fruitful land of Shem.  

And this was a main name later, given to the descendants of Joseph--EPHRAIM-- the BARIAHS-- ANd Ephraim is a fruitful bow...

 

As I said, the English language is suspect, and this is why it was written in scripture that words have a deeper meaning that we must research in order to get to the origin or as far back as we can to get a fuller meaning. We cannot supercede the lies and deceit if we don't go back over script and get the earlier meanings of which will help us to better understand how we have been deceived and dumbed down. 

 

"Now what do you mean by the "original Seth" people?
Lol, if Adam (the archetypical white man) wasn't original....how could his son Seth be?"

 

Now @Pioneer1 If you were correct about Adam being White then, this would contradict all science and that 'afro' that most Africans grow out of their heads. I've already broken this DNA down and it applies directly to the timespan that Adam was created. Even if you ask the African leaders and scholars over their in the African continent today, to confirm that in their lands, in their caves, and ancient ROCK ART, you will find NO primitive or ancient humans depicted with AFROES, or as Herodotus said, WOOLY HAIR, or no BUSHY HAIR... Adam is the scientific marker for THE AFRO!!! HE WAS NOT WHITE!!! 

So, likewise the name of SETH does not mean WHITE but guess what 'WASET' does!!! LOL! 

 

The ancient Egyptian term WASET does mean WHITE SETH!!! But the term Seth or Sety or Suti or SOUTHWORLD... refers to the ancient Seth people!!!

The Egyptian god, and enemy of Osiris SETH, the BLACK PIG, in ancient script refers to THE ORIGINAL BLACK AFRICANS and Nodeastern peoples of this world!!!

This term SETH would be the more correct term to define the AMAZIGH, and the CHOLCHIANS being woolly haired people from the east, and so many of Black or dark skinned peoples of the northeast world and etc.

 

Now, I have 'inverted' some terms, like ZIGGY---GIZA---ZIGGURAT, in another thread to show that the words are actually the key to their original meanings, and likewise, I plan to do that some more to further reveal some deeper meanings that have been hidden from us today. This is the very reason why I paused for months on certain other topics, in order bring out this aspect of 'hiding ancient history right in front of our faces'.

 

 

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Chev

That was some powerful information you dropped right there.
It's gonna take me a while to digest it.
Especially what you said about Adam.

 

There are some who say that the ziggurats, like the pyramids of Kemet and the Americas...were used by flying ships and aircraft based on ancient technology.

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On 9/15/2019 at 10:36 PM, Pioneer1 said:

That was some powerful information you dropped right there.
It's gonna take me a while to digest it.
Especially what you said about Adam.

 

Well okay! Thank you!

On 9/15/2019 at 10:36 PM, Pioneer1 said:

There are some who say that the ziggurats, like the pyramids of Kemet and the Americas...were used by flying ships and aircraft based on ancient technology.

 

 Well, yes, I heard that too. And, I have heard about how African hair type was applied to rocket technology and also car engines, as being a part of coolant systems.

And, I have heard about ancient about ziggurats and pyramids construction became correlated to sound waves and etc.

On 9/17/2019 at 2:37 PM, Kareem said:

up in here writing books and breaking down history! Great info.

 

Thank you!!!

 

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