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A few days ago Jim Crow Joe Biden gave the descendants of the former American slaves the proverbial middle finger by picking a US born South Asian-Jamaican to be his vice presidential running mate. A South Asian from the country of India whose immigrant parents had nothing in common with our Ancestors’ experience from the Institution of American Slavery and the Jim Crow era.  These facts should not be lost those of us care about the lineage and legacy of the Ancestors who bled, died and are buried on this soil.  Joe Biden like Donald Trump and many of the ‘Pocahontas’ mindset minions either think we are too stupid or politically uneducated to know when we being played.  This years’ presidential election is no different for Indigenous Black Americans than any other.  The Elites that run the Washington establishment Republican and Democratic parties have decided once again that they have no intentions of addressing our claims of reparations, our claim against police brutality, income inequality, housing discriminations and other injustices that they’ve strategically created laws to stifle the advancement of Indigenous American Blacks.    Donald Trump and his followers have given this country the jolt needed to expose the façade of American greatest.  The façade can be seen daily in the white media as they parade a few chosen Negroes around the national propaganda circuits to market the image and delusion of inclusion.  Many of these bought and paid for Negroes are conveniently black without the scars of American slavery.  The national white media has always served as a public indoctrination apparatus for white supremacy. In reality, the goal of both political parties is to keep the descendants of former slaves as the permanent under-class in the American casted system.  Kamala Harris is the latest insult to the lineage and legacy of the Ancestors of American slavery.  Kamala’s parents shared similarities with former President Obama father who were allowed to enter the United States in the late 1950s and early 1960s.  Since the sixties the white political power structure have been using that strategy to replace us in every aspect of political life in America.  Kamala Harris’ political actions toward American Blacks have been abhorrently and totally anti-black American.  She like the homegrown white supremacist male counterparts running to control the white house are birds of a feather.  Back in 2008, Kamala Harris prosecuted a mentally ill woman who had been shot by a San Francisco police.  As the SF District Attorney, Ms. Harris had a regular spot on the police union newsletter.  She cleared the officer of wrongdoing in the shooting of Ms. Sheehan and wrote an article in the newsletter where she touted a judge’s decision to allow the charges against Ms. Sheehan to go to trial.  The case was re-tried by Harris after the jury was deadlocked.  The case eventually made its way to the U.S. Supreme Court where Ms. Sheehan won a settlement.  Her civil suit also resulted in a landmark appellate court ruling that said the police had to take more care when interacting with people that they know have a mental illness.  mercurynews.com. Kamala Harris’ political track record speaks for itself in her reluctance to bring charges against the police.  In 2009, Oscar Grant was killed and Alameda County prosecutor Tom Orloff refused to investigate, must less charge BART cop Johannes Mehersle.  Ms. Harris and other California prosecutors gave same ole song and dance speeches while the citizenry of California died at the hands of police. In 2011 Raheim Brown, a twenty year old man was shoot and killed by an Oakland schools police Sargent.  After the police put two bullets in Brown’s chest incapacitating him, he fired five more shots into Brown’s body.  sfgate.com. In 2013, a child name Andy Lopez was gunned down in Santa Rosa, CA, by a Sonoma County deputy sheriff as he was walking in a field to return a toy gun that a friend had left at his home.  Months later the sheriff that killed Lopez penned an article in a police trade publication instructing officers how they could clear themselves of wrongful shooting especially if the case involved toy guns.  Kamala Harris was asked to intervene.  The community called for an independent special prosecutor and their calls were met with deafening silence.  sfbayview.com. Also back in 2013 a local new affiliate in Los Angeles ran a story about the works of Kamala Harris.  The title read as follows: 6 OC Parents arrested for Allowing Children to be Chronically Truant from School.  losangeles.cbslocal.com. 4/18/2013.  One of those parents were Cheree People, a 33 year old mother whose child suffered from Sickle Cell Anemia.  According to Ms. People, her child had ‘excused’ absents under the state law but that did not matter to Kamala Harris’ agenda.   Ms. People was recently interviewed by Youtuber, Tonetalks where she told her story and that of her sick child.  Also, she educated the viewers on the systematic approach to Ms. Harris’ program of Truancy.  On February 13, 2014, a group called occupyoakland.org wrote an open letter to Kamala Harris telling her to do her job and prosecute killer cops.  The letter and protest happened after two years of waiting for action in the shooting death of Alan Blueford.  Blueford was an 18 year old who was shot and killed by an Oakland police who initially said that Blueford was shot in an exchange of gunfire that also injured the officer chasing him.  Later it was revealed that the officer that chased Blueford had shot himself in his own foot.  abc7news.com.   Another case relevant to the political theatre of the injustice tied to Kamala Harris was the death of Mitrice Richardson who went missing in 2009 and found dead in 2010. According to dailynews.com, the Richardson’s family and their supporters sent nearly 500 pages of documents and reports about the case to then Attorney General Kamala Harris hoping she would find cause for criminal action against the deputies of the Sheriff’s Department.  In 2015, Harris’ office would not review the Richardson’s case saying there was ‘no reasonable inference’ that the deputies broke the law.  But months later Kamala agreed to review the matter at the request of Richardson’s father, Michael Richardson.  Consequently on December 31, 2016, then California State Attorney General Kamala Harris made a statement to the latimes.com.  She said, “There is insufficient evidence to support a criminal prosecution for destruction, alteration or concealment of evidence.” The Richardson case was reminiscent of Ahmaud Abrery case and the state of Georgia who had problems with the prosecutors who initially failed to bring charges against the race soldiers who tried to cover and then justify the murder of Mr. Abrery.  Kamala Harris is no different than any other Elite politician who present absolutely nothing positive in the interest of Indigenous American Blacks.  In 2017, m.huffpost.com ran a story with the headline entitled, Kamala Harris has to answer for not prosecuting Steve Mnuchin, who according to the writer of the story obtained a memo from The Intercept stating that Mnuchin and OneWest Bank were guilty of ‘widespread misconduct’ in the form of over 1000 legal violations back in 2013.  The Center for Popular Democracy carried a similar a story detailing how Ms. Harris failed in her duties as the ‘Top-cop’ to law enforcers. populardemocracy.org. Kamala Harris political resume includes being a champion of Truancy laws to put parents in jail who in some cases had sick children and being feckless in her duties to prosecute the police criminals and the well connected.  According to Kamala Harris, she accredits who she is to her cultural ethnicity from the country of India.  In past interviews, Kamala Harris rarely mentioned her Jamaican lineage. The family lineage and legacy that she referenced is ‘Bhramin’ class (translation, Elite or white) of India.  If we were citizen in India Indigenous American Blacks would mostly fall within the class of the ‘Untouchables.’ Melanin has been the ‘political marker’ that has used against our Ancestors and now us, the descendants in this wicked society called America.  As for Indians from India, Caribbean immigrants or immigrants from the Continent of Africa, melanin has been used by them to be conveniently black when it’s beneficial to their individual agenda in gaining access to white privileges and power in the American political system. Otherwise melanated immigrants identify with their cultural ethnic background of their countries of origin.  These people have no desire to link themselves with our lineage and legacy of the darkness chapters in human history.  On the other hand, some descendants who share the legacy of slavery and Jim Crow with us have chosen to distance themselves from the struggle until the situation or event calls for them to be conveniently black.  That bring the conversation to Kanye West, Oprah Winfrey and the Obamas.  Back in 2005, Kanye West famously stated ‘George Bush doesn’t care about black people.’  That statement was made following the damages from Hurricane Katrina.  Fast forward fifteen years later, Kanye West has aligned himself with Donald Trump, parading around with Trump’s marketing tool on his head, idolizing Trump as a father figure and most recent on July 4th 2020, announced his candidacy for president.  During Kanye’s so-called rally, there was no agenda about the current climate of police brutality, reparation, inequality, or a cohesive narrative. Nor has anyone from the so-called news outlets challenged Kanye on his statement back in 2005 against Bush versus his admiration for Trump who has proven to be an agent of chaos and mouthpiece for overt white supremacy.  In the past few years Kanye has been spewing out disrespectful rhetoric about Harriet Tubman and misinformation on the history of American slavery.  Kanye, Oprah, and the Obamas have been conveniently quiet on the killing of George Floyd, Beonna Taylor and Ahmaud Arbrey, just to name a few.  These people are former Chicagoans who also did not have anything to say about the killing of Laquan McDonald in 2014 by Chicago police and the covered-up by Rahm Emanuel until he had been successfully re-elected as mayor.  They had nothing to say about Sandra Bland (also from the Chicago area) who was found dead in the custody of a TX police department in 2015.  However the Obamas recently resurfaced to pander the democratic line about voting.  Recently, Former President Obama tried to low key through shade at the efforts by Young progressive across the United States.  The grassroots have gotten more accomplished specifically addressing police brutality in a few months without voting than former President Obama did in eight years.  A little bit over a week ago Oprah Winfrey attempted to upstage the grassroots efforts in Louisville, KY by putting up 26 billboard with Beonna Taylor’s face on them.  Black Channel Films has been boldly putting up billboards across America for years bringing attention to our plights.  In 2018, Black Channel Films put up ads in Dallas, TX to bring attention to the murder of Botham Jean.  Just recently BCF did the same in Louisville, KY for Beonna Taylor.  The billboard reads ‘Black Men’ are supporting Beonna Taylor.  Oprah Winfrey has never allowed any other human face to grace her magazine until she put Beonna Taylor on the cover.  One possible reason could be the fact that her magazine is ending the ‘print edition’ after twenty. pbs.org. This is the same Oprah who gave the KKK a platform on her show in 1988 where she was upstaged by them.  In 2007, Oprah justified her initiative to start a school in South Africa opposed to the United States, specifically Chicago. chicagotribune.com.   Although Marva Collin opened a school in Chicago in 1975.  According to reports, in 2018 Oprah gave $500,000 to the Parkland efforts after being inspired by the students from the school shooting.  Oprah backed Gayle King’s when Gayle attempted to smear the legacy of Kobe Bryant earlier this year after his death and that of his daughter.  Following that move, Oprah gave a platform to two white men who attempted to smear the legacy of Michael Jackson.  The same Michael Jackson who gave Oprah two of the highest rating in her shows’ history in the early 1990s.  The question has to be asked, why Beonna Taylor?  Beonna Taylor was killed back in March.  Why didn’t Oprah put up billboards in May when the story initially gained national attention?  Or, why not Renisha McBride who was killed months later after the verdict of Trayvon Martin, in 2012?  Or, in 2015 when the Huffington post ran a story about fifteen black women who had been killed during police encounters. Huffpost.com? Or, Atatiana Jefferson who was killed by police in her home after the murder verdict of Botham Jean in 2019.  There has been enough stories about police criminality toward black women for Oprah to be inspired, but it took the white children in a school shooting to inspired her.sun-sentinel.com.   These are questions that makes you go hmm?  Every four years the political establishment revert to pandering to the descendants of American Slaves without tangibles.  During the funeral service of John Lewis three former Presidents of the United States spoke during the Eulogy.  Bill Clinton has the audacity to suggest the ‘way’ of Kwame Ture (formerly Stokley Carmichael) did not rise to the path of John Lewis.  It’s interesting how politicians feel like they can tell us who should be respected in our community.  It was the civil right advocacy of the Black Panthers Party of self-defense who gave voice to the collective community after the death of King, until they were infiltrated.   The Panthers served as vanguards against criminal policing in major urban (code 4 black) communities in the mid-sixties through the early seventies.  In 1973, Sam Greenlee’s movie ‘The Spook Who sat by the Door’ gave the community an idea what empowerment looked like for Indigenous Black communities across America.  The movie also revealed how the government viewed us then and now.  Mr. Greenlee’s movie was an adaptation from his book by the same name, published in 1968.  The movie was based in Chicago where Mr. Greenlee was born.  The movie and the actual Panther party paralleled the struggles that we continue to face with police brutality and other injustices.  In 1969, 21 year old Fred Hampton, was murdered by the United State Government/Chicago police.  The federal government gained access into the BPP by way of agent provocateurs.  The same behavior pattern has been verified that the actions of the looters and destroyers of property in the current movement has been done by agent provocateurs pretending to be protestors.  The history of agent provocateurs date back to the early days of colonization in North America.  Several reasons slave uprisings had limited success were because the free black were denied the legal right to own firearms, laws in place to tightly regulate access to firearms and because of traitors in the group.   We have to look further back further than the civil rights era to discover that the warriors who came through American slavery and Jim Crow have been fighting to ‘be’ human and full citizenship in this society since this country started.   On August 30, 1800 Gabriel Prosser led a revolt in Virginia, organizing more than 1000 slaves along with some ‘poor white people.’  The plan was derailed by torrential rain and a traitor in the group who warned the white authorities.  In 1811, the largest revolt in American history called the German Coast uprising began outside New Orleans, LA.  The uprising was led by Charles Deslandes, at age 31.  He was part of the slaves who were transported to Louisiana after the Haitian Revolution (1791-1804).  And in 1822, Denmark Vesey led a revolt in South Carolina. It was reported that he organized as many as 9000 Indigenous American Blacks.  The plan was betrayed by several fearful enslaved people.  Vesey was born in St. Thomas, US Virgin Islands and was a slave until 1800 when he purchased his own freedom in South Carolina. biography.com. The early uprising as well as the Black Panther Party movement were sabotages by trusting those did not have loyalty to the collective.  We shouldn’t be surprised to learn that the agents are more sophisticated today.  They work on both sides of the isles commonly known as ‘the lessors of the two evils.’  Evil is still and it’s high time that we work to forward the agenda of the cultural collective toward empowerment.  This was the goal of our Ancestors.  We have many forms of technology to educate ourselves and expose traders in our midst.  Melanin does not nor has it ever been a true indicator to measure loyalty to the collective.  The behavioral patterns of Kamala Harris and Joe Biden have been that of careerists who have spent their entire political careers passing laws and upholding laws to destroy the fiber of the traditional Black family in America.  We must become politically informed and expose those who masquerade around being conveniently black, if we are to survive as a cultural ethnic group in America.  

Chaplain B, Board Certified Chaplain, APC, iad2bfree@outlook.com  8/17/2020

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From a New Delphi, India newspaper:

 

….on the issues that matter most to professional Indians, Harris has been remarkably positive. Harris wrote against revoking the ‘right of spouses of H-1B visa holders to seek employment’. Similarly, Harris has called for the elimination of country quotas for getting green cards,” he states. “Indians are deeply impacted by both issues.”

“Ironically, the greatest strengths of Kamala Harris are also her weaknesses…Her life has been one of doing the right thing, in moderation,” writes Mattoo. “It is a life all Indians could embrace and must celebrate enthusiastically,” he concludes.

 

From another India-Indian newspaper:

 

 
 Joe Biden, presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, on Saturday took a snipe at the Trump administration for its crackdown on legal immigration including 'sudden' and 'harmful' actions on H1B visa and promised that if elected he would continue to rely on Indian-American diaspora that binds the two nations together.
 
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The only foreigners who get the H1B visa are India-Indians. H1B visa-holders work in Silicon Valley (BIG bucks for India-Indians fresh out of college). This is Harris' India-Indian agenda.
 
Where's her BLACK agenda?
 
That said, I'm with Troy. Come November Imma gonna hold my nose, do the #2 and vote for Biden and his "colored" non-ADOS running mate. Why not just 'drop out' and not vote, you ask? Simple. You can't win if you don't play. No matter how poor your cards, you can feint, you can finesse, you can put on your poker face and hope your opponent blinks first. Throw in the cards because you got a messed up hand and you automatically lose.
 
That said, I'm with you, brother Aljones. Tell the truth. Drown out the b.s. with the truth. Cut it out with the African-American heritage APPROPIRATION by black-skinned non-ADOS with non-black agendas. Only I'm mystified by your throwing Oprah, a NON-politician and not even the richest black person in America in the mix of your litany of what? sinners?
 
Whateva.

 

 

 

 

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I agree that Kamala isn't Black (African is the racial term I prefer) but she IS AfroAmerican because her father is an AfroAmerican.
In other words, while she's not Black racially.....her ethnicity is in line with that of other AfroAmericans.
 

I've heard a lot of criticisms  about her and her policies but to be honest outside of the claim that she locked up too many brothers....the accusations are too confusing and seem to be all over the map.


As a quick aside.....

Many of our people get so emotional about what they are preaching about that they have a hard time "making sense" to those listening or trying to follow them.
They tend to RAMBLE on emotionally.


Interviewer:  Can you tell us what happened between you and the man across the street?

 

 

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"Yeah...
See, he ain't shit!  Everytime he come around he start some mess with people.  He think he's better than other people.  Always lying, playing games...but guess what...karma is real.  What goes around comes back around. "



Interviewer: I understand but sir....exactly what happened to start all of this trouble?


 "That's what I'm tryna say.  Listen, all them games he be playing, he ain't gonna be playing them for too much longer.  Wait until them people get ahold of him.  They are gonna put hands on him like he put hands on homeboy and tried to put them shits on me!"
 

 

🙄   If you don't understand what I just posted in quotes....that's the point!

The brother above was just running his mouth and rambling, not making sense even when asked direct questions.
And this is how too many of our people are.

 

 

I haven't read a simplified direct critique of Kamala and EXACTLY what she's done that's so terrible to warrant such attacks from AfroAmericans as if she's worse than Trump.
I know she used to be a Prosecutor in California before becoming a Senator and they said she was responsible for a lot of AfroAmerican men being locked up but I would have to still look at these cases more deeply.  Some of those gangsters in Cali NEED to be locked up!
 

 

 

I believe that Joe Biden is racist as hell but based on what I know right now I don't think Kamala is worse than Trump and seems significantly better.

All together I think Biden/Harris are the lesser of 4 evils.

But here's the bigger problem.........


We can sit here and criticize Trump, Biden, the Democrats, and Republicans all day long because neither has our best interests in mind; but my question is what are WE doing as far as putting together a new society and new government?

I don't hear a lot of talk about that.

Just sitting around complaining about what "they" are doing to us without having a plan to govern ourselves is useless.

I listen to Tariq Nasheed, Meechee X,  ADOS, and others criticize the White Power structure in America WITHOUT organizing a plan to replace it.

They either criticize the Democrats for taking the Black vote for granted or say don't vote....both of which helps Agent Orange stay in office.

It's one thing if you were saying this WHILE offering a viable alternative to the current political system; but hell if you're just getting online bad mouthing Kamala Harris and the Democrats all day and all night and telling Black folks not to trust them or vote for them.......then what you're REALLY saying is either don't vote or vote for Trump.

My question is, do you expect for things to IMPROVE as a result of that?
 

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I could care less about "Jim Crow Joe & #45 Agent of Chaos Orange", but there is always Jo Jorgensen...

 

Alright, we're on our way.

Now if you'll just go one step further and stop caring about the Caucasian alternatives like Jo Jorgesen and others -we'll be almost there.....lol.

The fact is NO Caucasian should be trusted to have our (presuming you're AfroAmerican) best interests in mind no matter what "party" they are affiliated with or call themselves.

 

What am I saying?

 

Just like the Caucasian power structure is the problem in ECONOMICS; and whether you're for Capitalism, Socialism, Communism, ect....as long as it's being led by a Caucasians it will not free you.
The Caucasian power structure is the problem in POLITICS also!

It doesn't matter if they CALL themselves Republican, Democrat, Libertarian, Democratic-Socialist, Grave-Digger, ect.....

 

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As long as a guy (or gal) who looks like THIS is at the head of it and is calling the shots and charming people with his sparkling blue eyes, expect for there to be more disappointment, more unfairness, and more mistreatment both inside the organization as well as in it's policies.
 

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As I said before  I believe a Civil War is underway right now and it will only intensify.

However in the event that the system does NOT collapse and remains in place well into next year I hope Trump stays in office and continues to do to the United States what he is currently doing.  
(which is why I was glad he was elected)

 

Don't get me wrong, Biden/Harris would indeed reverse some of the damage  Agent Orange has done restore stability to the United States ....just like Obama cleaned up the mess G.W. Bush made; but they are only prolonging the inevitable.


With 45 in power, things will wrap up VERY quickly!


Putting Biden/Harris in office is like giving chemo-therapy to a person with stage 4.....prolonging their life (of suffering).
 

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So why don't you cast a vote for 45 since that is who you want to win?

 

You know your belief of an imminent civil war sounds like a paranoid delusion, right? Have you expressed these ideas to others you know you well, in the real world?  What do they say about your beliefs.

 

Based upon other things you've written i presume you believe it will be a race war? Is that right? The employees if facebook are gonna take arms against the NBA players that sort of thing, huh?

It is really interesting that Google put this video in front of me. Looks like Dr. Boyce Watkins is not voting either.

 

He does not think keeping 45 out of office is a good enough reason to vote for a ticket that has Kamala Harris on it.

 

He also answered my question "What would you think if I married a white woman."

 

 

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So why don't you cast a vote for 45 since that is who you want to win?

 

Honestly, although I'm glad he got the nomiations I don't  want it on record that I actually voted for him....lol

It's like watching a Confederate protestor getting beat up.  
You're glad it happened but you don't want the guilt of having done it yourself, lol.

 

 


You know your belief of an imminent civil war sounds like a paranoid delusion, right? 

 

I'm not sure how you can say that after all of the NATION WIDE riots that have been occuring all over this nation this year.
Look at what happening in Portland and Seattle.
For nearly 3 months thousands of mostly Caucasians  have been battling law enforcement and federal officers out there....that's a war.

They just don't have tanks and advanced weapons, but they are still fighting as best they can!
 

 

 

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What does a "Civil War" look like to you?

Do you have to see a bunch of hillbillies walking down your street with grey uniforms on waving a Confederate flag BEFORE you recognize that a Civil War is already taking place?

 

 

 


Have you expressed these ideas to others you know you well, in the real world?  

 

Yes, but most of them already agree with me and some even TOLD ME that a Civil War was going on before I believed it!
Some people have been preaching this was coming for years if not decades.

 

 

 

Based upon other things you've written i presume you believe it will be a race war? Is that right? 

Although I believe race will be involved, as I've said on numerous occasions AfroAmericans are ALREADY in a race-war.
It started over 500 years ago.

As the ongoing Civil War intensifies far more Caucasians will be slaughtering eachother than they will AfroAmericans....far more.

I think a lot of issues are going to be involved in pissing so many Caucasians off that they will get out into the streets and go crazy on eachother.

Many are saying that this upcoming November election will be a major flashpoint.
 

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OK can you explain, concisely, what this civil war looks like.  The temporary protest in Seattle and other cities do rise to the level of a civil war. 

 

In my world white people are showning a great deal of support for Black folks supporting our businesses (including AALBC) and marching in the streets of Seattle and other cities (something I'm not doing).

 

Of course there are racist white folks, but will they launch a race war, that they can not possibly win, I strongly doubt it.

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OK can you explain, concisely, what this civil war looks like.  The temporary protest in Seattle and other cities do rise to the level of a civil war. 

 

((shrugs shoulders))

Outside of what has already taken place, I'm not sure what it  will "look like" as it begins to intensify besides probably more weapons and more people involved.
 

I'm thinking at some point many of these racist militias will get involved but to what extent I'm not sure....I'm kind of following this thing where it goes.

 

 

 

 


In my world white people are showning a great deal of support for Black folks supporting our businesses (including AALBC) and marching in the streets of Seattle and other cities (something I'm not doing).

 

Well this is the thing Troy.........
I know you and many other successful AfroAmericans probably like things the way they are.  
I'm not saying you LOVE the way things are because there are many injustices that you speak on and try to solve; but overall....you're a smart man and like most smart and gifted AfroAmericans...can navigate in this society better than most AfroAmericans.
Smart and gifted Black folks....who would probably do good in ANY society...just can't see what the problem is or understand "why those other negroes just can't get it together and make America work for them like it works for us!".....lol.

 

Because they aren't smart enough or gifted enough...that's why.

There are more BLACK MALES in prison and jail right now than ALL of the AfroAmerican men and women making over $40,000 in the entire nation!
We're not including the Black women in jail.
We're not including ALL  AfroAmericans who are homeless, addicted to drugs, living a life of crime, are very sick, ect....just MEN who are incarcerated!

More AfroAmerican males incarcerated than ALL of the AfroAmericans making the $40,000 or more.....think about that.

MOST of our people can't make it in THIS society...only a fortunate few.

MOST of our people aren't smart enough or gifted enough to overcome all of the obstacles being put in their way....and we have to understsand this and stop trying to ignore it or dance around it or make excuses for it or try to "work with" it.
You can't work your way around people in power who are TRYING to limit your success and curtail your progress at every chance they get.
 

Rather than continuing to jump over hurdles, duck projectiles, and over-come obstacles to have some sort of resemblance of success for only a MINORITY of our people.......

Wouldn't it be best that the entire system collapse and be replaced with a new system where the MAJORITY can easily be successful and make good living for themselves and their children?

How can you have that while THIS system is still operating in full force?

So maybe Agent Orange is actually a blessing in disguise because he comes along and causes chaos and tears down elements of the very system that has kept MOST AfroAmericans suppressed and in a state of arrested development.

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I hear you @Pioneer1, but you make is sound like I'M out of touch.  Remember I grew up in the inner city. Sure I know what a decent life in New York City is like, I have not had a reported income of more than $40K since I left Wall Street.  That is why I got a nice $1,200 check with Donald Trump's signature on it. Sure this year it will be very difficult to report less than $40K, but it is not like I'm as out of touch as you make it seem.

 

I live in the world man, so while I have never been to jail or prison.  I know a lot of people you have several are family members.

 

As you mentioned I recognized many of the problems with our culture and fight to remedy what is wrong in my little corner of it.  However I do not think a complete revolution will result in a better outcome for us as a people. I think our best opportunities rest in improving the systems we have in place and getting rid of the pieces that don't server us.

 

If all of use supported local indie business and stop using Amazon.  Our communities would improve overnight -- no revolution necessary.

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I am going policy over party...I am not saying that Jo Jorgensen is going to save us a collective. I believe in her policy and it way better than what we have now and everyone so busy being caught up in the Biden vs #45 war that is created by the media, so Jorgensen is flying under the radar. Voting optics and party is played out. If you have policy that can help it is a start

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I'm not saying or even suggesting that you are out of touch.  


The issue has nothing to do with your personal efforts or desires, it's about your innate ability to be successful in an educational and economic system that was DESIGNED to limit and minimize the intellectual and financial progress of most AfroAmericans.

 

It doesn't matter if you grew up in Harlem or Beverly Hills, this society....including it's public educational system and career oppotunities...is carefully crafted so that MOST AfroAmericans will find it confusing to navigate through, and unmotivated to be successful in.
 

Only those who are smart enough and/or have some sort of major gift or talent like music and sports and/or in many cases Divinely Favored more than average.....will be successful in this system.
The rest will struggle and many will just fall out of the bottom ending up homeless, incarcerated, or dead.

And what is "success"?
The quick definition is accomplishing your goals but overall general success as most people understanding it is making enough money to independently provide food, clothing,  and decent housing for themselves without any help AND be healthy both mentally and physcally.

And if you have children you can provide all of this for them also..without any other help.

 

If you can't do this, you aren't economically successful.


Most AfroAmericans ARE NOT doing this.
Most are living off of eachother, hustling on the side to TRY and get things taken care off, and living in and out of the "system" after being caught doing things that were "illegal" to TRY to make a living for themselves.

 

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 However I do not think a complete revolution will result in a better outcome for us as a people. 

 

Not unless we have a well thought out plan for OUR OWN system as AfroAmericans.
There are a lot of Caucasians who are trying to start a revolution and tear down the system to IMPLIMENT SLAVERY!
Yes.......


Not all of those Caucasians out there angry and protesting are angry for the same reasons.  Some say the nation has given AfroAmericans TOO MUCH FREEDOM and want things restored to slavery days!!!

The key is to have a plan OF OUR OWN not just sit around waiting on angry fed-up Caucasians to do all the work.
This is the message I was telling AJ.

 

 


 

If all of use supported local indie business and stop using am*zon.  Our communities would improve overnight -- no revolution necessary.

 

It may improve to a CERTAIN extent but not nearly as much as is needed.  
If you're in prison and only getting 1 hour of exercise a day...getting 3 hours is considered a MAJOR improvement.  But it's still nothing compared to getting released when you can exercise when you WANT....lol.

 

Lasting improvement would only come with removing the system that creates the problems in the first place.  If not, then you'll only replace am*zon with ANOTHER mega-corporation that is even more exploitative.

 

You must also think of your children.
When it comes to successful and well educated AfroAmericans....except for a few in those Black Fraternities and Sororities....much of the time the CHILDREN of wealthy and successful AfroAmericans don't even do as well as their parents.
Why not?
Because they SYSTEM was designed to prevent AfroAmericans from passing along wealth and power!

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Again I hear you and I recognize that many feel you can not use our masters tools for liberation.  I'ma bit more pragmatic.

 

Few have the stomach, energy, or wherewithal to plan and execute a full on revelation.  This that will happen and be successful is magical thinking in my opinion, so we are are left with working the the cards we are given.

 

Would would be the optimal outcome of your race war, revolution, whatever you call it @Pioneer1?

 

@daniellegfny, I don't know what Boyce Watkins's political party is, but is positions, in the video above, pretty much mirror what you've been saying...

 

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Troy

 


Few have the stomach, energy, or wherewithal to plan and execute a full on revelation.

 

Desperation will make most people do nearly anything.  
When the power in your home is out and there is no food to eat, you're gonna get up and do SOMETHING.....lol.

 

 

 

 


Would would be the optimal outcome of your race war, revolution, whatever you call it 


Lol...why do you call it MINE????
You see all the shit happening in Portland and Seattle and around the nation, did I cause it?
Am I just MAKING all of this up out of my imagination?


Covid 19, the economy, and other things have gotten people scared, angry, and desperate......I'm just telling you what's happening.


 

Worse case scenario: 
Nothing Changes.
It's the worse because it means the system will REMAIN in place and the conditions in the AfroAmerican community will continue to deteriorate slowly.


2nd from Worse case scenario: 
Most AfroAmericans are killed and what few left are put BACK into actual slavery.
It's not the absolute worse because most of our people get to just DIE and finally be free from participating in the suffering and humiliation of what may actually become a stronger system of White Supremacy.

Trust it bro.....
If this wicked racist system is prolonged, the diseases and riots people are talking about this year will be considered MILD compared to the diseases and other disasters the planet will witness from the hands of White Supremacists as they LOCK DOWN on power.

You wouldn't even want to be around to witness it, let alone experience it.
Selling books would be the LAST thing on your mind!
 
 

 

I'm not smart enough to know the absolute BEST case scenario but..... 
A very good case scenario:

The racist system collapses, society falls into chaos, and the smartest and most intelligent of AfroAmericans eventually survive and rise out of it to form a much better society for ourselves and our children.  Other races and ethnicity will live PEACEFULLY under our rule, but they will have to obey our rules and laws.

 

 

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I truly believe THIS (very good case scenario) is exactly what will happen!

Which is why the goal should be for us to stay alive and remain as healthy and safe as we can so we can get through it to the OTHER SIDE where their is success and prosperity awaiting you, me, and those of us who survive by the Divine Favor of The SUPREME BEING.

 


We....AfroAmericans....are the people who are destined to take over and rule America.
Not by ourselves, but all others will respect us and our authority and will find peace.
The question is WHEN and which generation.

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I don't believe any of your scenarios will come to pass,

 

Not even the first one?

The first scenario is what's been happening in America for the past 40 years.  I'm surprised you can't see that happening.


But like I said before, it would be the WORSE case scenario because things will carry on as usual and the AfroAmerican community will continue to SLOWLY deteriorate into savagery.

I know you don't want to hear this, you probably cringe and shake your head when I say it but if things continue as they've BEEN going Negroes are going to get dumber and dumber, lose most if not all of their political and economic power, the violence in the hood will increase, and over HALF of the men and women will start going queer and transgendered out of sexual confusion.....it will eventually be mass savagery and chaos.

Again, this is the WORSE case scenario meaning....NOTHING happens and things remain as they've been going.
But as I said I do NOT believe that will be the case.
I think things are going to change very quickly for the better but there'll probably be brief chaos first.
 


 but you should write a book on your later scenario.

 

Maybe if I'm still alive and able bodied AFTER it's all over....I will, lol.
We may be too busy tearing down old buildings and building new ones.
 

Like I said, the main concern for AfroAmericans right now should be to SURVIVE and get through the chaos that is going on and probably will only intensify in the coming months.

I don't know if I said this or not but I believe there will be a mini-Civil War in the Black community while all of the other chaos is going on among Caucasians.
At some point the gangsters and thugs will have to go.

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@Troy thank you for mentioning me I watched the first few minutes of the video. I personally have not voted in every election, but every election I voted on the primary question was what is in it for me and my community.

 

 I had a rider today and I explained to him why I am voting for Trump. Trump policies over the last four years have been more favorable for me. I agree that we shouldn’t force people to vote. That’s because I would not want to be forced to. The principle to consider is by you not voting how many people are you influencing that won’t vote because you didn’t.

 

Voting, like Jury Duty is a Duty. Because I hadn’t taken care of felony for a while I thought I was barred from sitting on a jury. Last year I was able to participate in the Jury Pool. 
 

I believe I can’t justifiable criticize if I don’t participate in the process. That was the biggest disappointment I had with people like John Lewis and Elijah Cummings. They abdicated their duties and choose to run away from Trump instead of engaging him. 

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Many of our people tend to be STRANGE.

Think in STRANGE ways and do STRANGE things.

 

For example.....
While most people around the world seek to UNITE with their own people and don't believe in standing out as different than others....a lot of AfroAmericans like and actually SEEK being "different" for the attention that it draws to them.
 

They'll go around call themselves Republican, or atheist, or even bi-sexual....not because they really fall into these groups but because it's DIFFERENT.
It sets them apart from most of the other AfroAmericans in their environment and draws attention to them.
It sparks discussion.
It causes their name to be frequently mentioned during casual conversation.

 

 

 


Troy

 

I completely disagree with not voting in a presidential election

 

I believe voting is effective in local elections, but as far as the federal elections.....it's a done deal.  The REAL "powers that be" in this nation have already decided who is getting in office and who is not.   National voting is just ceremonial.
 

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8 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

I believe voting is effective in local elections, but as far as the federal elections.....it's a done deal.

 

Maybe, but in the states that are close voting really matters.  Plus, I think knowing the results of the popular vote is useful.

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Trump is in office because the REAL "powers that be" in this nation want him in power to serve their purposes...which is to tear down the system and cause social chaos.

I don't know about the Republican primary but voting CERTAINTLY didn't get him in office because Hilary actually got more votes!
I think she got about 3 million MORE votes and still didn't get in office, which should tell you something about the system...lol.


Trump was PUT in office to do what G.W. Bush for some reason failed to do.

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Daniel


I got tangible things from Trump. 

 

Can't argue with another man about what's in HIS pockets.

No matter where the nation or even the AfroAmerican community stands, if YOU are doing better under a particular person then I can't blame you for supporting them.

 

I'll even toss you one better......

 

I can say that from a personal point of view I'm doing MUCH better while Trump is in office than was when Obama was in office.

However I'm not going to say that my successes or losses are DIRECTLY attributed to those two men or their policies.
 

If AfroAmericans were united enough (meaning atleast 65% of us on the same page)  we could vote as a SOLID BLOCK and offer our vote to whoever promises AND DELIVERS us the most tangible benefits.
 

 

 

 

If Trump had lost the Primary there would have not be a general election with Trump in it.Your words are only clever to the inexperienced.

Jeb Bush was SUPPOSED to get the nomination and become president, but he didn't have the heart to do what needed to be done (tear down the system).
He was too "nice" of a guy, and I believe he loved his nation too much to do to it what Trump doesn't mind doing....lol.

I'm telling you man, you don't know Caucasians the way you THINK you know them.

 

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1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

I can say that from a personal point of view I'm doing MUCH better while Trump is in office than was when Obama was in office.

However I'm not going to say that my successes or losses are DIRECTLY attributed to those two men or their policies.

 

You know, I have to admit the same of true for me too.  Despite the fact that I went through a wealth destroying divorce during 45's presidency.  2018 was a record year for AALBC, which was followed about another record year in 2019, and 2020 will be better than 2019!  The tax checks were not fun to write, but Trump send be a $1,200 check. I didn't even ask for it (reparations LOL!) 

 

The years during the Obama administration were all years of struggle.  I did even make any real money on the book they published.  I ended up gifting almost as many copies of Michelle Obama's book as I sold. 

 

Now is 45 the reason for this?  Republicans will say yes and democrats will say no. 

 

The question is pretty irrelevant.  The site survives because of me busting my ass and because of the support i get from you.  Now, if you all are doing better and able to patronize and support AALBC....  part of the reason AALBC can do better is because YOU are doing better.

 

The person stilling in the oval office has little direct impact, outside of the $1,200 payment Trump made -- the first direct payment i ever got from the U.S. Government!  

 

It seems 45 has gone out of his way to do things for Black people, letting wrongfully convicted people out of jail and inviting Jim Brown to the White House.  I'm sure Obama let some wrongfully convicted Black people out of jail too ... right?

 

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Sometimes Black people in power don't do anything to directly support Black people.  Sometimes they even take it too far by hurting Black people, just so that they do not appear to be too biased toward Black people.

 

But don't let it be a black and a white one
'Cause they'll slam ya down to the street top
Black police showin' out for the white cop

--"Fuck tha Police," N.W.A

 

The power white people have is that they don't have to worry about appearing to be biased toward Black people in fact they are usually praised for it.

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Man, that $1,200 was a sweet treat....lol.
I'm not going to lie.

 

I will say this about Agent Orange, he knows how to "bribe" people.
He also knows how to take care of his own.


That's one of the things I DO like about Republicans.  They will look out for you as long as you're backing them!

 

They don't give a fuck about morals, values, or any other virtue except for WINNING and supporting the wealthy.  And they will WIN at all costs.  But you know that about them upfront and you know what's expected of you.

Look how he shamelessly bailed out and is trying to bail out of jail those who broke the law in support of him.
He goes after his enemies and looks after his friends.



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"You got MY back and I got YOURS."



Like a the bad parent who tries to look good by spoiling the child...they won't give the people free healthcare and decent education.  Things that they actually NEED that will benefit them and the nation in the long run.  But they'll pass out a few TREATS here and a few BRIBES there all day long just to get people to "like" them and vote for them...lol.

 

As terrible as it may seem, how many DEMOCRATS can we say the same thing about?
Can't rely on them for shit.
Instead of going OPPOSITE of the Republicans and finding ways to funnel money to THEIR voters and make THEM richer and more powerful, they spend most of their time crying and pointing their fingers at what the Republicans are doing wrong.
 

 

 

 


OCTOBER SURPRISE!
 

I wouldn't be surprised if that second round of $1,200 checks just "happen" to come sometime in late October....lol.

 

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As a matter of fact, I wouldn't be surprised if he even SWEETENED the deal by rounding it out to a nice $1,500 or even $2,000!
Hell, it's not HIS money he's handing out like candy...lol.
He just wants to stay in office and will do what it takes to make that happen.



Infact.....I might have just helped him win, lol.

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The biggest problem with the Obama Presidency was that he really wasn’t open in his support of the Black Community. I felt he was more for the LGBQ community. 
 

If that wasn’t the case Biden would not be sweating the Black vote., Trump just a few minutes ago announced about 4 of his initiatives or follow throughs that positively affected Blacks. 
 

I don’t blame him. I just don’t feel he correctly engaged the Black Community. The Black Community en masse supported Obama unconditionally.

With that being said, his most important accomplishment was getting elected. Everything else he could do was consider a bonus.

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The biggest problem with the Obama Presidency was that he really wasn’t open in his support of the Black Community. I felt he was more for the LGBQ community.

 

Agreed.
The LGBTQIA community became way more prominent under the Obama Administration.  (and even added a few letters....lol)

The reason why Obama wasn't open with his support of the AfroAmerican community wasn't because he was trying to be covert, it was because HE REALLY DIDN'T SUPPORT the AfroAmerican community.  He basically said he was "everybody's" president which was double-talk for letting AfroAmericans know not to expect anything extra from him.

 

The thing about our people is that too many of them tend to BELIEVE Caucasians when they say they are being honest and fair......

-Italian politicians look out for ITALIANS FIRST and everyone else second.
-Chinese politicians look out for CHINESE FIRST and everyone else second.
But they're smart enough NOT to say this openly so as not to be accused of being racist.

 

The problem with many AfroAmerican politicians is they will watch this and in an attempt to NOT be racist will follow suit proclaiming that THEY TOO will not favor their own community over another.....but when these fools say it they REALLY MEAN IT.
So while other communities are getting ahead, their own communities remain stagnant.

 

 


his most important accomplishment was getting elected.

 

That wasn't much of an accomplishment.
Like I said he was SELECTED to be in that office to do what he's doing.
 

He ran for president several times on the same platform but wasn't SELECTED until he agreed to carry out the agenda the "real powers that be" has for America.
 

 

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"Gentlemen....I think we've made our decision"

 

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10 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

He basically said he was "everybody's" president which was double-talk for letting AfroAmericans know not to expect anything extra from him.

 

It was double speak to let white folks, "Don't worry I gotchu!"   You lock up a Brother trying to get into his own house, I'll invite you over for a beer.

 

I'm still voting for Biden

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I was just looking at the math. 3.8 million for $500,000 investment. That is a model which could be duplicated. The question could be how much did the sponsor put in to secure the financing? But, I am presenting the concept of what is achievable. Too often we don’t know that our dreams aren’t unique because someone else has been there. 

This is how wealth accumulation is accelerated.

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It was double speak to let white folks, "Don't worry I gotchu!"   You lock up a Brother trying to get into his own house, I'll invite you over for a beer.

 

((shakes head))

 

And you know what.......
It was THAT moment that gave the green light for police to start gunning AfroAmericans down in the street around the nation.

 

More AfroAmericans lost their homes under Obama than under ANY other President in the history of the United States.   More lost jobs and their pensions to the stock-market crash and following recession that HE helped to orchestrate too.

That's why I say I don't trust ANY party.

 

This may sound left-field but I think Shirley Chisum was the last REAL U.S. Presidential Candidate that would have actually done something of substance for our people.

 

 

 

Daniel

 

If (and that's a strong if)  that financial move IS what it appears to be, then I say it's a step in the right direction.

But like I said before, Negroes have a bad habit of LYING about their accomplishments.

Everybody is on top of the world....on the internet.

Negroes have all types of "investments" and "real-estate" and "businesses"....on the internet, lol

 

But if you can see the same clown in REAL life you'll find him living out of his car, eating ramen noodles, and reading "Rich Dad Poor Dad".....filling his mind up with more garbage and wishful thinking.

 

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The way the nation is going right now you better hold off with the "investments" until next year.

 

Wealthy Caucasians have pretty much brought all of their financial moves to a halt except for the very essentials and have sat on their money waiting to see what happens with Covid-19 and all of the rioting that has been taking place.
Many are planning to pull out of the United State all together and go to certain spots in Asia.

 

Society is far too unstable right now to make big financial investments this year.
You don't know WHAT is going to happen and what will happen with your money
 

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@Pioneer1 it’s during times of instability that fortunes are made. Also I have met people who are legitimate who have spoken complimentary about them. Also I have met people who have been through rough spots and gone on to make fortunes. Your perspective is poison ☠️

I try to make it a habit to associate with people who are wealthier than myself.

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3 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Shirley Chisum was the last REAL U.S. Presidential Candidate that would have actually done something of substance for our people.

 

Word!

 

There are several books on Shirley coming out, but they are getting drowned out by all the bullshit going down now.

 

1 hour ago, daniellegfny said:

I try to make it a habit to associate with people who are wealthier than myself.

 

I try to associate myself with good people. I really don't care how much money they have.

 

The way the country works we all tend to socialize with people in our same social class.  

 

Wealthy people don't hang out with wage earners. That only happens in Tyler Perry movies.

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@Delano the only shackles are on people minds.

 

@Pioneer1 

 

you really don’t know how many Blacks are really thriving in America and globally. The sky is no longer the limit. Love of country is and extension of the love of self and family. The Secrets of A Millionaire Mind and Speed Wealth by T Harv Ecker are two great starters books. 
 

I believe your biggest challenge is that you don’t associate with enough accomplished Blacks who aren’t part of the leftist fringe. 

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3 hours ago, daniellegfny said:

 

I believe your biggest challenge is that you don’t associate with enough accomplished Blacks who aren’t part of the leftist fringe. 

Thanks for your insight.

15 hours ago, Troy said:

Wealthy people don't hang out with wage earners. That only happens in Tyler Perry movies.

I have personally seen that this is not true. In fact wealthy at time do this to have a dose of reality.

 

https://www.crfashionbook.com/culture/a23784668/cr-muse-brigid-berlin-rejection-of-status/

Among these talents was Brigid Berlin, a photographer and painter who found herself after rejecting the upper class lifestyle she was born into.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/18/arts/brigid-berlin-dead.html

 

This may have been somewhat true on Nancy Cunard heiress to the Cunard Cruise ship fortune

 

http://cup.columbia.edu/book/nancy-cunard/9780231139380

Cunard was also a prolific poet, publisher, and translator and, after falling in love with a black American jazz pianist, became deeply committed to fighting for black rights. She edited the controversial anthology Negro, the first comprehensive study of the achievement and plight of blacks around the world. Her contributors included Langston Hughes, W. E. B. Du Bois, and Zora Neale Hurston, among scores of others.

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@Delano those examples are high profile exceptions, not the rule. I seriously doubt Nancy Cunard had a true friendship with any poor people.

 

Man middle class Black peopledon't even hang with poor Blacks -- even if they are in their own families. There really us a caste system here in the U.S.

 

At Stern we got to rub elbows with very wealthy people. How many are you regularly in contact with today?

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