nels Posted January 27, 2022 Report Share Posted January 27, 2022 Being one who usually prefers to color within the lines, every now and then you have to mess up the picture a bit, or at worse, destroy it. The intent of this post has absolutely ‘nothing’ to do with white supremacy, black power, anti-Semitism, self-hate, or anything else along those lines. An issue that occasionally shows up on the horizon, one that some people take seriously, but many others choose to ignore and don’t take a closer look at is: “How liberal Jews in government, business, education, entertainment, media and politics in America, were so successful in programming so many liberal black Americans into being so ‘intellectually challenged’ (euphemism), gullible, naive and self-destructive.” Why is good solid black leadership so hard to come by? Perhaps it's because many so-called black leaders don’t’ realize that they are viewed as nothing more than political puppets, pawns and chumps, by the elites. You know, the elites - the folks who make up ~10% of the population, but own ~90% of the wealth; there are many different percentages out there worth investigating further. For some, blatantly faux leaders like Bennie Thompson, Maxine Waters, Hakeem Jeffries and Stacey Abrams (who are nearly invisible in the news today), as well as others like Lebron James & Co., are real heroes, when from a somewhat more pragmatic and realistic perspective, they seem more like useful idiots. - - - George Soros https://www.lifesitenews.com/opinion/george-soros-is-spending-billions-on-global-university-network-to-bend-direction-of-history/ https://www.truthandaction.org/george-soros-god-created-everything-control-america-hillary-clinton/2/ https://fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/know-your-enemy/george-soros-bringing-down-america https://neonnettle.com/news/12156-george-soros-funded-das-push-hard-in-effort-to-dismantle-police https://www.conservativehq.org/post/george-soros-the-one-man-crime-wave https://ammo.com/articles/george-soros https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2021/12/20/recall_remove__replace_every_last_soros_prosecutor_146914.html https://trendingpolitics.com/george-soros-radical-billionaires-exposed-as-massive-hypocrites-in-huge-tax-leak-to-propublica-knab/ - - - Mark Zuckerberg https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/victoria-taft/2022/01/08/zuckerbergs-report-for-america-is-a-media-take-over-dressed-up-as-philanthropy-n1545353 https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/op-eds/how-mark-zuckerbergs-350-million-threatens-democracy https://capitalresearch.org/article/americas-new-justice-system-funded-by-soros-and-zuckerberg/ https://rielpolitik.com/2019/06/23/cover-up-the-zuckerberg-dossier-mark-zuckerberg-is-a-fraud-used-by-the-cia/ https://truth11.com/2021/12/12/mark-zuckerberg-telling-facebook-employees-to-stay-away-from-the-vaccine-a-video-his-own-platform-would-ban/ https://aim4truth.org/2019/06/13/facebook-insider-confesses-all/ https://blackamericaweb.com/tag/mark-zuckerberg/page/2/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfD Posted January 28, 2022 Report Share Posted January 28, 2022 35 minutes ago, nels said: Why is good solid black leadership so hard to come by? IMO, the assassinations of the 1960s neutered black leadership. They literally killed our progress towards unity. Any potential leadership is quickly bought off and/or replaced with crash test dummies. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nels Posted January 28, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2022 Very good point and perspective. It seems like black leaders of the '60s were heavies and they had a deep understanding of the black body politic and how it existed in such a hostile environment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynique Posted January 28, 2022 Report Share Posted January 28, 2022 Give me an scenario of what black people would be doing if they were not being controlled? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfD Posted January 28, 2022 Report Share Posted January 28, 2022 13 minutes ago, Cynique said: Give me an scenario of what black people would be doing if they were not being controlled? IMO, black folks would produce and control their own wealth instead of trading mental and physical labor; gross consumerism and contributing to the wealth of others. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynique Posted January 28, 2022 Report Share Posted January 28, 2022 7 minutes ago, ProfD said: IMO black folks would produce and control their own wealth instead of trading mental and physical labor; gross consumerism and contributing to the wealth of others. What wealth does the black race have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfD Posted January 28, 2022 Report Share Posted January 28, 2022 19 minutes ago, Cynique said: What wealth does the black race have? Collectively, the black race has trillons of dollars. Unfortunately, it's tied up in probate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynique Posted January 28, 2022 Report Share Posted January 28, 2022 12 hours ago, nels said: Very good point and perspective. It seems like black leaders of the '60s were heavies and they had a deep understanding of the black body politic and how it existed in such a hostile environment. Times have changed in 50 years in many cases for the better. But certain obsessed blacks are stuck in the hypothetical mode that is tainted with a paranoia that drives them to waste most of their time imagining conspiracy scenarios that, even if true, cannot be thwarted because "blacks" are not now and never will be a unified force. Being a moving target is their defense, ironically. @ProfD Over the years, I haven't heard a formula for black liberation any different from yours. This is what prompts me to agree that projecting the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result, is insanity. The black race, if not totally crazy, is neurotic, and it will never be anything but an elusive, multi-faceted dysfunctional family. Only as individuals will they be on a par with white success. The race as a whole seems doomed to just keep waking up on Ground Hog day, convinced that the deep state is plotting to enslave them; the perpetual suspicion of those who think they are too smart to be fooled. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfD Posted January 28, 2022 Report Share Posted January 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Cynique said: @ProfD Over the years, I haven't heard a formula for black liberation any different from yours. @Cynique, I certainly respect your perspective because you have heard some version of this record for many decades. SInce I'm not religious, I choose to put my faith in the belief that one day black folks will become unified. If faith without works is dead, hopefully, encouraging black unity ticks the box of keeping that faith alive. It may not happen in my lifetime but I'm eternally optimistic. One day, I may resign myself to playing my keyboards and stop preaching for black unity and against white supremacy. I just haven't gotten there yet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nels Posted January 28, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2022 2 hours ago, Cynique said: But certain obsessed blacks are stuck in the hypothetical mode Every now and then, a 'blind' groundhog sticks its head out of its hole and when it does, there's a coyote waiting right above it. Reflecting, perhaps we all could chip in and order some liquid Valium for the (um) Ultra-Intelligent most senior memberazzi on this discussion board. "It is thought that diazepam works by enhancing the activity of certain neurotransmitters in the brain." (Epic Fail) | Re: https://www.drugs.com/valium.html 2 hours ago, Cynique said: Only as individuals will they be on a par with white success. IMO, white success is not a measure of accomplishment. Global impact, is. If back America stops thinking about 'white' for even a millisecond and starts thinking about 'forward', it might wake up from its generations-long blame-induced stupor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynique Posted January 28, 2022 Report Share Posted January 28, 2022 1 hour ago, ProfD said: One day, I may resign myself to playing my keyboards and stop preaching for black unity and against white supremacy. I just haven't gotten there yet @ProfDI like that in you. 21 minutes ago, nels said: very now and then, a 'blind' groundhog sticks its head out of its hole and when it does, there's a coyote waiting right above it. Reflecting, perhaps we all could chip in and order some liquid Valium for the (um) Ultra-Intelligent most senior memberazzi on this discussion board. "It is thought that diazepam works by enhancing the activity of certain neurotransmitters in the brain." (Epic Fail) | LMAO i knew I'd get a rise out of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mzuri Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 ************************************************************************************ 4 hours ago, Cynique said: LMAO i knew I'd get a rise out of you. @Cynique It's official. You are a TROLL. https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Troll https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/troll Congratulations!!! ************************************************************************************ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynique Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 3 hours ago, Mzuri said: ************************************************************************************ @Cynique It's official. You are a TROLL. Congratulations!!! @MzuriYes, I am. And lavender is my favorite color! BTW, i just got out of FaceBook jail. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 On 1/28/2022 at 1:26 PM, Cynique said: Only as individuals will they be on a par with white success. True and this is what keeps us apart. But this is not unique to Black people -- most people in America are out for themselves. On 1/28/2022 at 3:56 PM, nels said: IMO, white success is not a measure of accomplishment. Global impact... Sadly, this is true as well, but we have to get ourselves together before we can start thinking globally. Think about how easy Jack Dorsey (Twitter) got Black people to embrace his platform and ignore all the Black ones out there... Black success is defined by white validation. Few people will tout being, say an AALBC bestselling author. No, they lament the fact that the can not become a NY Times Bestselling author. Amazon brilliantly exploited this by creating thousands of categories in which one could be a bestselling authors -- and we work hard to generate the the sales to become the #1 Amazon bestselling author in say the "Non-Binary Underwater Basket Weaving" category. Again this is not unique to Black folks white folks game the Amazon bestsellers list for the same reason. The difference is when white folks do it they are largely supporting their own -- when we do it we support their businesses and marginalize Black ones... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nels Posted January 29, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 On 1/28/2022 at 10:05 AM, ProfD said: gross consumerism Not that's how you pinpoint obvious root causes. Good call. On 1/28/2022 at 2:19 PM, Cynique said: LMAO i knew I'd get a rise out of you. The Brilliance Scale Genius | Smart | Stupid | Ignorant | Dumb | Hopeless 1,3,9,27,81,243, 729, 2187... And the next number is? One could only guess that you answered this very easy question correctly in your deep sleep at the age of 'two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nels Posted January 29, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 28 minutes ago, Troy said: most people in America are out for themselves And that is quite unfortunate. Black America has tremendous positive potential, but time and time again, it seems like its doing everything it can to take three steps back for every step it takes forward, without the help of any other racial, ethnic, social or other group. IMO, the American mindset isn't about itself; people of all types are now consumed with either taking from others, or keeping others from taking from them. IMO, that's the reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troy Posted January 29, 2022 Report Share Posted January 29, 2022 1 hour ago, nels said: IMO, that's the reality. It is the American way. But I do not believe it is inherent to the human condition, nor is consumerism. We have been conditioned to behave this way and no one is being served... Think about; it our entire society is based upon buying more and more stuff -- in fact our system would collapse if we stopped by more things than we actually needed. It is why we are in a society where paying $70MM for a jpeg file can be construed to "make sense." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynique Posted January 30, 2022 Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 12 hours ago, nels said: The Brilliance Scale Genius | Smart | Stupid | Ignorant | Dumb | Hopeless 1,3,9,27,81,243, 729, 2187... And the next number is? One could only guess that you answered this very easy question correctly in your deep sleep at the age of 'two. @nelsThis doggerel is typical of the blather you babble. @Troy@Prof@nels your observations about the black "race" fill me with deja vu... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delano Posted January 30, 2022 Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 8 hours ago, nels said: Genius | Smart | Stupid | Ignorant | Dumb | Hopeless 1,3,9,27,81,243, 729, 2187... And the next number is? One could only guess that you answered this very easy question correctly in your deep sleep at the age of 'two. Three to the 8th power Not certain how this is measuring intelligence. You either get it right or you get it wrong. So there is no scale for using this "test" to determine intelligence. Aka 81 squared. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynique Posted January 30, 2022 Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 3 hours ago, Delano said: 12 hours ago, nels said: Genius | Smart | Stupid | Ignorant | Dumb | Hopeless 1,3,9,27,81,243, 729, 2187... And the next number is? One could only guess that you answered this very easy question correctly in your deep sleep at the age of 'two. Three to the 8th power Not certain how this is measuring intelligence. You either get it right or you get it wrong. So there is no scale for using this "test" to determine intelligence. Aka 81 squared. @DelNels is a self-styled arbitrator of intelligence which is equivalent to a snail evaluating the speed of an iguana. Don't woke him up. Let him slept on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delano Posted January 30, 2022 Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 I try to fly under the radar. 14 minutes ago, Cynique said: Don't woke him up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefan Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 No one controls Black America. Period. We are individuals and we are not a monolith. Just look at the division of our political strength. It was majority allied with Democratic Party until Bernie, the Socialist, came along. So strong was his Kool-Aid, there are still Black voters who believe Socialism is their savior. Now, Trump has made inroads, mostly because his Black supporters see themselves as superior to every other Black person. But too Black Trumpers articulate their imaginary preeminence with childish epithets and collective putdowns usually reserved for White racists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nels Posted February 1, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 On 1/29/2022 at 2:16 PM, Troy said: Think about how easy Jack Dorsey (Twitter) got Black people to embrace his platform and ignore all the Black ones out there... Yes, that sums it up a lot. On 1/29/2022 at 2:16 PM, Troy said: Black success is defined by white validation. I would tend to disagree on that. On 1/29/2022 at 3:59 PM, Troy said: it our entire society is based upon buying more and more stuff Correct. I've been trying to get this message out for over two decades, but people just don't seem to be paying attention. Remember, If you've saving instead of buying, that hurts the elites on Wall Street and around the entire globe, big-time. They don't want people to do anything but spend, spend, spend. On 1/30/2022 at 2:58 AM, Cynique said: Nels is a self-styled arbitrator of intelligence which is equivalent to a snail evaluating the speed of an iguana. Don't woke him up. Let him slept on. The Three Rules of Social Engagement Rule No. 1) Don't debate with the irrational. Rule No. 2) Don't break Rule No. 1. Rule No. 3) Don't explain why you broke Rule No. 2. On 1/29/2022 at 10:49 PM, Delano said: Three to the 8th power Not certain how this is measuring intelligence. You either get it right or you get it wrong. So there is no scale for using this "test" to determine intelligence. Aka 81 squared. Very good. Now that wasn't hard. Basic math. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProfD Posted February 1, 2022 Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 15 hours ago, nels said: Remember, If you've saving instead of buying, that hurts the elites on Wall Street and around the entire globe, big-time. They don't want people to do anything but spend, spend, spend. Facts. Investing in tools (labor, land, natural resources) instead of buying toys will lead to greater prosperity and independence. Unfortunately, the system has been set up for people to anesthetize themselves through consumerism and consumption which usually leads to being incarcerated by debt. A harder habit to kick than drugs and alcohol combined. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nels Posted February 1, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2022 4 hours ago, ProfD said: incarcerated by debt Excellent phrasing. You should trademark that one, because it sums up the lives of the black and other consumers, to a 'T'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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