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Here we go again with the "increase the taxes" bullshit.

This nation doesn't need to increase taxes on ANYBODY....individual or corporate.
I know a lot of corporations and rich people are cheating the system but they shouldn't have to.  The tax codes should be FAIR and across the board so people aren't motivated to cheat and scam.

On top of that and more importantly....

The U.S. Constitution gives the United States Congress the right to print as much money as it needs and assign value to it.
They can literally print money out of thin air and assign as much value to it as they want to.

Which they DO....when they want to spend money on wars or foreign Aid like to the Ukrain.

Any talk about raising taxes and sacrificing when they give hundreds of billions of dollars to the Ukrain or when they were spending trillions to fight in Iraq and Afghanistan???
If they didn't need to raise taxes to fund THAT....why did they need to raise them to fund this???
 

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@Pioneer1, you're right...the whole approach to taxation and spending and printing money at will and our economic system is a house of cards. 

 

Former POTUS George W. Bush  admitted it back around 2007. The house of cards started to implode right before former POTUS Obama took office. 

 

The US could have a flat tax across the board. I guess that would be too boring. So, instead, the fed wants to play with interest rates and hedge bets against the US dollar and market forces. 

 

Millions of American jobs have been outsourced. Bring that work back home. Also, establish a new version of POTUS Franklin Roosevelt's Civilian Conservation Corps.  Pay Americans a healthy wage.

 

No need to over tax Americans. As super consumers, they'll spend the money faster than they can make it. Economy would boom. 

 

Unfortunately, a handful of greedy azz people want to control 98% of the wealth in this country. 😎

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I don't like the sound of the IRS ramping up enforcement, for these resources usually go after low-hanging fruit, that is people without the resources to defend themselves like small businesses and lower-middle class citizens.   But we will see...

 

It will be interesting to see what the obama care subsides look like and will that translate into better health care.

 

At some point American plutocrats and oligarchs will have to share something with the rest of us, otherwise shit will hit the fan and even the uber wealth really don't want to see America fall into anarchy.  2024 will be a very telling year.

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21 minutes ago, Troy said:

At some point American plutocrats and oligarchs will have to share something with the rest of us, otherwise shit will hit the fan and even the uber wealth really don't want to see America fall into anarchy.

That's the balancing act they've been playing with the American people for a long time now. 

 

The plutocrats allow us to have just enough to shut up and go take a nap or sat down somewhere. 😁

 

But, you're right, when folks don't feel like they're getting enough and/or want more than the greedy are willing to share...sh8t is definitely going sideways. 

 

2024 could be a sign of the times but I'm thinking the plutocrats will be able to keep up their high wire act for a longer period of time. 😎

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It's not going to harm rich people or the economy to make them pay more. When you consider the super rich who make money off stock only pay around 13% in taxes I don't pitty them at all. As for the IRS oppressing ordinary people - show me the evidence. The Inflation Reduction Act is fairly modest compared to the original and more ambitious Build Back Better Act that was scrapped.

 

Don't believe the tax and spend hype either. Unless you want to cut Medicare and Social Security we've always had government debt. The real question is who really benefits from all that Federal spending?  I'm not convinced that it is needy people or programs that advance the general welfare.

 

Ultimately you can't avoid the need for some kind of political reset of this economy that went wrong for working people years ago. That old economy never did enough for black people either. But unless we revive organized labor and forge a multiracial working class struggle then nothing will change.

 

 

 

 

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 But unless we revive organized labor and forge a multiracial working class struggle then nothing will change.

 

We're long over due for another organized labor movement, but one of the problems is most poor and working class people themselves aren't upset enough over their wages and benefits (or lack there of) to motivate them into action.

 

Too many poor and working class people are busy smoking weed and getting deeper and deeper in debt trying to live like the upper classes they see on television or online.  
The idea that they could be getting shafted and actually could acquire far more wealth on their jobs if they'd only organize and demand it is a thought that rarely enters the minds of most.


Just bouncing from one low wage job to the next; getting just enough money to keep the lights on, buy some marijuana, pay the child support......oh and some pizza, tacos, or ramen noodles.

As far as a "multiracial working class" struggle......forget about it.

Most poor White folks don't mind being poor.
They KNOW they're being exploited and agree with it.
It's a sacrifice they're willing to make to maintain the system they're upholding.
Their only demand is that the Black and Brown POORER than them and are beneath them socio-economically.  


 

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1 hour ago, Pioneer1 said:

Kenneth

 

 

 But unless we revive organized labor and forge a multiracial working class struggle then nothing will change.

 

We're long over due for another organized labor movement, but one of the problems is most poor and working class people themselves aren't upset enough over their wages and benefits (or lack there of) to motivate them into action.

 

Too many poor and working class people are busy smoking weed and getting deeper and deeper in debt trying to live like the upper classes they see on television or online.  
The idea that they could be getting shafted and actually could acquire far more wealth on their jobs if they'd only organize and demand it is a thought that rarely enters the minds of most.


Just bouncing from one low wage job to the next; getting just enough money to keep the lights on, buy some marijuana, pay the child support......oh and some pizza, tacos, or ramen noodles.

As far as a "multiracial working class" struggle......forget about it.

Most poor White folks don't mind being poor.
They KNOW they're being exploited and agree with it.
It's a sacrifice they're willing to make to maintain the system they're upholding.
Their only demand is that the Black and Brown POORER than them and are beneath them socio-economically.  


 

 

Poor and low wage workers don't have a monopoly on moral imperfections or dysfunction. Middle class people who are also being clobbered by this rigged economy have their issues too. Perhaps part the problem is Americans do not blame the system or its wealthy corporate benefactors. People blame themselves and other working people for gross inequality and the harm that goes with it. Therefore no activist or political challenge can come about.

 

Thanks so much for responding and keeping me on my toes.

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Thanks for the insightful posts that stimulate me to comment on....lol.

Well I'll say something that may sound shocking but in THIS nation poor people....collectively...ARE primarily to blame for their condition.

Yes they are being exploited and the wages are being kept low and they are being manipulated and hammered with one distraction after another but most of them don't seem to CARE even when these injustices are brought to them for their attention.
In the old days, men used to get together and MARCH and PROTEST and even RIOT to demand hire wages.
They'd be all over the streets demanding hire wages and more benefits.
That's when it was a man's responsibility to take care of his wife and children....no excuses.

But now when it's primarily women's responsibility to support themselves and any children they have and most men only contribute what they want or what the court ORDERS them to contribute....the pressure on them to earn more simply isn't there.
If the average man in the lower socio-economic sector is getting (notice I didn't say "earning"....there's a good reason for that) just enough to keep his bills paid, some food in his stomach, and can maintain his supply of liquor to drink and weed to smoke -he thinks he's doing good.

Who cares about a LIVING WAGE?

Who cares about SAFE WORKING CONDITIONS?
Who cares about a PENSION PLAN?


Who cares about eliminating this "right to work" crap that is getting people fired all over the nation for the simplest of reasons by egotistical managers???

Until the POOR and WORKING CLASS people put their differences aside long enough to decide ENOUGH IS ENOUGH....don't expect much to change.


Personally, I'm no longer riding for the poor.
I'm working class and trying my best to GET OUT of that class and into the upper middle class and eventually WEALTHY class.
Not only is it nicer but because the people tend to be more selfish...they actually CARE ABOUT THEMSELVES.

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41 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

Kenneth 

Thanks for the insightful posts that stimulate me to comment on....lol.

Well I'll say something that may sound shocking but in THIS nation poor people....collectively...ARE primarily to blame for their condition.

Yes they are being exploited and the wages are being kept low and they are being manipulated and hammered with one distraction after another but most of them don't seem to CARE even when these injustices are brought to them for their attention.
In the old days, men used to get together and MARCH and PROTEST and even RIOT to demand hire wages.
They'd be all over the streets demanding hire wages and more benefits.
That's when it was a man's responsibility to take care of his wife and children....no excuses.

But now when it's primarily women's responsibility to support themselves and any children they have and most men only contribute what they want or what the court ORDERS them to contribute....the pressure on them to earn more simply isn't there.
If the average man in the lower socio-economic sector is getting (notice I didn't say "earning"....there's a good reason for that) just enough to keep his bills paid, some food in his stomach, and can maintain his supply of liquor to drink and weed to smoke -he thinks he's doing good.

Who cares about a LIVING WAGE?

Who cares about SAFE WORKING CONDITIONS?
Who cares about a PENSION PLAN?


Who cares about eliminating this "right to work" crap that is getting people fired all over the nation for the simplest of reasons by egotistical managers???

Until the POOR and WORKING CLASS people put their differences aside long enough to decide ENOUGH IS ENOUGH....don't expect much to change.


Personally, I'm no longer riding for the poor.
I'm working class and trying my best to GET OUT of that class and into the upper middle class and eventually WEALTHY class.
Not only is it nicer but because the people tend to be more selfish...they actually CARE ABOUT THEMSELVES.

 

Hey there's never anything wrong with improving yourself. I know I come off sounding like someone who hates Capitalism and rich people. I can assure you that's not the case. But I think we've broken the Social Contract between labor and business that paid people enough to live comfortably and secure. Labor offered a chance to improve yourself. Never mind it was mainly for white men not blacks or women. At any rate I hope you make it brother. If you do just treat workers better than you've been treated. 

 

check out my blog AALBC Black Capitalism and Black Freedom - Race and Beyond - AALBC.com’s Discussion Forums

 

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No, you don't sound like someone who hates Capitalism to me.

But you DO sound like (and I may be wrong) someone who thinks Capitalism isn't good for our people or people in general and that perhaps Socialism would be a better economic system for us.


Personally, I think we need a MIXTURE of both Capitalism and Socialism (with an inclination towards Capitalism) for a more balanced and effective economy for OUR people as AfroAmericans.

Too much Capitalism will lead to violence and widespread poverty.
Too much Socialism will make our people lazy and stagnate progress.

We need balance.

However whatever we do...WE (AfroAmericans) must decide and control our economic fate and not allow those from outside of our community to do so.
 

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7 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Kenneth

No, you don't sound like someone who hates Capitalism to me.

But you DO sound like (and I may be wrong) someone who thinks Capitalism isn't good for our people or people in general and that perhaps Socialism would be a better economic system for us.


Personally, I think we need a MIXTURE of both Capitalism and Socialism (with an inclination towards Capitalism) for a more balanced and effective economy for OUR people as AfroAmericans.

Too much Capitalism will lead to violence and widespread poverty.
Too much Socialism will make our people lazy and stagnate progress.

We need balance.

However whatever we do...WE (AfroAmericans) must decide and control our economic fate and not allow those from outside of our community to do so.
 

What you advocate here is precisely what already exists in the other developed nations. It's called demosocialism. A capitalist economy, but with a lot of safety net, and govts who support the interests of the PEOPLE as much as those of capitalists. In the USA we have a system which is corporatist. It's a rigged game. It's anachronistic really, belong to the age of Robber Barons which the Republicans just can't give up. That's what Reagan was about... reversing everything liberals had done since FDR, back to trickle-down and gross inequality as in the 1920s.

 

All we need to do is take a good look at countries like Germany, Denmark, France. Spain, UK, Netherlands. Japan. Israel, Australia, NZ, Canada, Singapore, etc., to see how we could greatly improve the U$A.

 

As for the AA economy... the increased corporatization of our economy has hurt EVERY community. Corporations own all the eateries, stores. everything. There are FAR fewer locally owned businesses than 50 years ago. The economic environment does not favor local economy at all. And the AA community is a special case in that it has been held down perennially, even back when rural communities were prospering (and they are prospering no longer). I'd advocate a rebuilding of infrastructure, economic incentives to create decent stores, jobs, etc... well, that's a whole 'nother long topic.

 

All of it would occur and the country would be better to the extent we adopt demosocialism like the superior nations of the world.

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While I don't disagree with the points you made above.....and actually I think most of them are spot on....when people bring up Germany, Japan, the Netherlands, ect....as examples of safe, clean, well governed nations-
Although it's true when comparing them to the United States, there are 2 major factors we have to take into consideration:

1. Nearly all of them are under U.S. military protection.
Which means while much of OUR taxes and spending goes to Defense and military costs in the United States....THOSE nations don't have to spend nearly as much on defense because we're defending them.  So their revenue can be put back into their respective nations in terms of infrastructure, education, ect....

2. With the exception of Canada....most of those nations mentioned above are for the most part homogeneous.
About 95% of the population of any of those countries are of the same race, so those in government in the legislative and executive roles don't have as strong of an "us against them" mentality when it comes to doing for it's citizens.

Chances are those in Parliament or Congress or whatever legislative body is governing the nation see other citizens as their own fathers, mothers, sisters, brothers, sons, daughters, ect....so when they craft laws and institute policies.....they usually have the best intentions in mind.
I said USUALLY.
They are looking to benefit their citizens because they can relate to them.

However in the United States, whether it's state or federal government....you often have people of one race who look at their constituents who are of another race as "aliens" or even sub-humans.  They see them as "subjects" more so than fellow citizens.  
This is the pervasive mentality many of our governing bodies.

Having lived in different major cities across the United States, I notice that when you look at a subway station or some public structure....in many communities if some hoodlums come along and vandalize it the city or county will LEAVE it vandalized or tear it down all together.
They may clean up the trash around it after a few days, but the spray paint and damage will remain for years.
They have the mentality of "they destroyed their own property so let THEM live with it"

But in both Belgium and Germany I've seen public structures like bus stops and subway stations get damaged and spray painted by youth and the governments will clean it up and restore it within a few days....and will often do this over and over again as many times as it's desecrated.
Because in those nations they have the mentality of "WE have to fix up OUR property no matter how many times the hoodlums destroy it"


Those nations have a different mind set where they care about ALL of their citizens, not just a select few.
 

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18 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

...most of those nations mentioned above are for the most part homogeneous.

Bingo.  That's precisely why socialism and capitalism work so well together in other *developed* countries. 

 

The melting pot that is the United States is far more complex in its approach to all -isms (racism, socialism, capitalism).😎

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On 8/24/2022 at 6:59 PM, Pioneer1 said:

Kenneth 

Thanks for the insightful posts that stimulate me to comment on....lol.

Well I'll say something that may sound shocking but in THIS nation poor people....collectively...ARE primarily to blame for their condition.

Yes they are being exploited and the wages are being kept low and they are being manipulated and hammered with one distraction after another but most of them don't seem to CARE even when these injustices are brought to them for their attention.
In the old days, men used to get together and MARCH and PROTEST and even RIOT to demand hire wages.
They'd be all over the streets demanding hire wages and more benefits.
That's when it was a man's responsibility to take care of his wife and children....no excuses.

But now when it's primarily women's responsibility to support themselves and any children they have and most men only contribute what they want or what the court ORDERS them to contribute....the pressure on them to earn more simply isn't there.
If the average man in the lower socio-economic sector is getting (notice I didn't say "earning"....there's a good reason for that) just enough to keep his bills paid, some food in his stomach, and can maintain his supply of liquor to drink and weed to smoke -he thinks he's doing good.

Who cares about a LIVING WAGE?

Who cares about SAFE WORKING CONDITIONS?
Who cares about a PENSION PLAN?


Who cares about eliminating this "right to work" crap that is getting people fired all over the nation for the simplest of reasons by egotistical managers???

Until the POOR and WORKING CLASS people put their differences aside long enough to decide ENOUGH IS ENOUGH....don't expect much to change.


Personally, I'm no longer riding for the poor.
I'm working class and trying my best to GET OUT of that class and into the upper middle class and eventually WEALTHY class.
Not only is it nicer but because the people tend to be more selfish...they actually CARE ABOUT THEMSELVES.

All of that behavior by the poor which you decry is engineered. The system saw very well what happened when people stood up for themselves: labor movement. civil rights movement, womens' movement... They have extensively manipulated people to create all this cynicism and anomie. It's all by design.

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As much stability as a homogeneous society would provide...I'm still not sure if I'd like to live in one.
I personally like diversity.

I like eating different types of food, meeting and engaging with women from different nations and cultures, dealing with people who think differently and see things from a different perspective

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I believe some people are just "wired" to love it while others are "wired" to hate it and seek to make everyone look, think, and act the same.

 

 

 

 

Michel Montvert

 

 

All of that behavior by the poor which you decry is engineered. The system saw very well what happened when people stood up for themselves: labor movement. civil rights movement, womens' movement... They have extensively manipulated people to create all this cynicism and anomie. It's all by design.

 

At the risk of sounding like a Conservative...lol...although I totally agree with you that it's by designed and the powers that be manipulate the media and society in general to produce that type of thinking....at what point do THE PEOPLE take responsibility for demanding and fighting for a better life for themselves?

 

If you're living in poverty with several young children, one of which has autism, you don't have health care, and your job pays you only 50 cents more than the minimum wage....

Should you really be smoking weed EVERY day?
Should you really be engaging in behaviors that could get you arrested, locked up, and if you get out...further ruins your chances of having a good career?

Too many poor people have given up on themselves and decided to "go along" with the program the rich have designed for them.

What the rich are doing makes sense.
I don't agree with much of it and think it's exploitative....but it does make sense.
What most poor people are doing doesn't seem to make sense.

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11 minutes ago, Pioneer1 said:

As much stability as a homogeneous society would provide...I'm still not sure if I'd like to live in one.
I personally like diversity.

I like eating different types of food, meeting and engaging with women from different nations and cultures, dealing with people who think differently and see things from a different perspective.

Nothing wrong with that.  There's no reason that we cannot have it all except one thing or reason...greed.

 

As long as someone wants to have more than you and they want yours too...there's going to a problem. 

 

There are 10 men and 10 women...a 1:1 ratio.  Until one dude decides he wants 3 or 4 women...🤣

 

A homogenous society does not have to lack diversity of any kind.  The main component of it is fairness.😎

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22 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:


What the rich are doing makes sense.
I don't agree with much of it and think it's exploitative....but it does make sense.
What most poor people are doing doesn't seem to make sense.

The conditions and forces which make those poor people dysfunctional are structural and by design. Keep them unhealthy, subject to bad food and conditions, poorly educated, and pumped full of media BS, and naturally they'll behave badly.

 

I'm not trying to inject WV into the forum but I mention it for comparative purposes, and it is instructive because we have there a subset of the USA which suffers high levels of poverty and dysfunction, and are overwhelmingly white. I look at their behavior and it makes me feel ill. The grandchildren of farmers who watch grandpa's tractor rusting in the field while they eat junk food and complain about the unpicked fruit which falls and rots on the ground.

 

I just have to remember that I'm university educated, we got out of WV young. I grew up in affluent suburbs of Pittsburgh and L.A., so they perhaps rightly dismiss me as a pointy-headed smartypants outsider if I criticize what they're doing in WV. So I end up having the same view you express. that they are willfully dysfunctional and hurting themselves.

 

The rich of course are behaving rationally. They have to in order to preserve their position of privilege, which requires a lot of manipulation to pull it  off.

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But as I've pointed out before.....
When it comes to the poverty of rural areas like Kansas or West Virginia and wide swaths of Middle America where half the population is hooked on meth and have no teeth in their mouth and over 90% of them are White.....most of them WANT to be in that condition.

Maybe "want" isn't the best word to use but they ACCEPT their position as the "grunts" of the system.
They are what are called "White Sacrifices" that are being used as pawns to keep going. 
Cheap and handy labor to keep the system operating.

They also stand as a cushion between the masses of Black and other people of color who are poor, oppressed, and angry and they act as a buffer to keep the wealthier classes protected "just in case".

They KNOW they are being exploited and mistreated but unlike most Black people they are WILLING sacrifices.

In West Virginia a lot of the poor Whites who worked in those coal mines KNEW that it would fuck up their lungs and that they were being exploited by wealthy mine owners and investor....but they labored on working their asses off with the excuse of "feeding their families".....until they got sick and dropped dead.
They were WILLING pawns in the game of what they believed was "White Supremacy".....the System.
You find these type all over the country keeping things operating at the expense of their own bodies and health.

They'll work hard all day long and sit around at night with no teeth in their mouths smoking and drinking until they drop dead....and do it WILLINGLY to keep the System going strong.

 

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"Here's to  repealing Obamacare and the rest of that socialist garbage!
Real men don't give a FUCK about their health or teeth!
Real men don't need helmets when they ride motor cycles!
And real men ain't gonna walk around with a damn face diaper on, Pandemic or not!"




🙄  -If Social Darwinism is real...I say let nature take it's course.

 

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They are what are called "White Sacrifices" that are being used as pawns to keep going. 
Cheap and handy labor to keep the system operating.

They also stand as a cushion between the masses of Black and other people of color who are poor, oppressed, and angry and they act as a buffer to keep the wealthier classes protected "just in case".

They KNOW they are being exploited and mistreated but unlike most Black people they are WILLING sacrifices.

Facts.  That's why poor White folks do not complain and/or align themselves with people of color. Being better off than them is good enough.😎

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12 hours ago, Pioneer1 said:

Michel Montvert

But as I've pointed out before.....
When it comes to the poverty of rural areas like Kansas or West Virginia and wide swaths of Middle America where half the population is hooked on meth and have no teeth in their mouth and over 90% of them are White.....most of them WANT to be in that condition.

Maybe "want" isn't the best word to use but they ACCEPT their position as the "grunts" of the system.
They are what are called "White Sacrifices" that are being used as pawns to keep going. 
Cheap and handy labor to keep the system operating.

They also stand as a cushion between the masses of Black and other people of color who are poor, oppressed, and angry and they act as a buffer to keep the wealthier classes protected "just in case".

They KNOW they are being exploited and mistreated but unlike most Black people they are WILLING sacrifices.

In West Virginia a lot of the poor Whites who worked in those coal mines KNEW that it would fuck up their lungs and that they were being exploited by wealthy mine owners and investor....but they labored on working their asses off with the excuse of "feeding their families".....until they got sick and dropped dead.
They were WILLING pawns in the game of what they believed was "White Supremacy".....the System.
You find these type all over the country keeping things operating at the expense of their own bodies and health.

They'll work hard all day long and sit around at night with no teeth in their mouths smoking and drinking until they drop dead....and do it WILLINGLY to keep the System going strong.

 

When did I becum a Redneck ? “F#@k that shit! Pabst Blue Ribbon!” |  Bakersfield Hash House – Harriers Drinking Club With A Running Problem

"Here's to  repealing Obamacare and the rest of that socialist garbage!
Real men don't give a FUCK about their health or teeth!
Real men don't need helmets when they ride motor cycles!
And real men ain't gonna walk around with a damn face diaper on, Pandemic or not!"




🙄  -If Social Darwinism is real...I say let nature take it's course.

 

I think you're giving the rightwing working-class whites FAR too much credit as thinkers. They are not willingly sacrificing themselves to anything. They think that their problems are all caused by exterior forces (never the actual oppressor who is screwing them). They are NOT aware that their situation is enabled by anti-black racism. The racism is one of the primary means by which they are conned into supporting their oppressor. It is not conscious!!! They are full of FEAR! The old Southern politicians would get elected by stirring up fear of the blacks. Now they also use immigrants, Muslims, trans, etc., but the dynamic is the same.

 

How informed can they be if they refer to the ACA as "socialist garbage", when in fact it is Romneycare! Romney is a socialist now? These fools wouldn't know socialism if it crawled up their leg. I know it's difficult to understand for us more rational folks, but these dupes really do believe the nonsense fed to them! They think Obama closed coal mines because he's a socialist Muslim! Makes no sense... but don't let that stop them! The folks in WV who correctly identify the COAL company as the problem... well those are the Democrats. Union people.

 

The fools believed their handlers, refused vaccination and masks, and died in piles! Did they do that as a conscious sacrifice to keep the system going and keep blacks down? HELL no, that is too much "thinking" for them. They just believe what their idiot hero tells them and do what they're told. I've tried arguing with those types... I'm convinced they are not intelligent or aware enough to sacrifice themselves for anything.

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I think you're giving the rightwing working-class whites FAR too much credit as thinkers. They are not willingly sacrificing themselves to anything. They think that their problems are all caused by exterior forces (never the actual oppressor who is screwing them).   They are NOT aware that their situation is enabled by anti-black racism.

 

That's the issue.
As I've gotten older, have lived around the nation, and gotten to engage with a lot of poor and working class Whites as well as having done research on racial relations in the past in the United States..I DON'T BELIEVE they actually believe this.

 

I think it a CONVENIENT EXCUSE they use to cover up their NATURAL anti-Black feelings.

They may be poor and uneducated but most of them aren't stupid.
They know better.

 

They KNOW that the jobs in their towns were removed by wealthy White business owners who left them high and dry; and they know Black people did take those jobs.  Yet they still fly Confederate flags and listen to country music up in Minnesota....lol.

 

 

 

 

 The racism is one of the primary means by which they are conned into supporting their oppressor. 


Lol...they aren't being "conned".

Your apologizing for them won't save them.
These people know EXACTLY what they're doing and what they feel and why they feel the way they feel.  The only con is THEM trying to hide it as best they can to keep a job or position.

 

 

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"Father....DON'T forgive these devils.  For they know EXACTLY what they're doing!"

 

 

 

It is not conscious!!! They are full of FEAR!

 

Fear of what?
Certainly not the Blacks or Browns they hate because most of them don't have the power to imprison them or keep them unemployed...so what "fear" are they using as an excuse for their hatred???
Most of them live in communities where they never even MET a Black person so they certain haven't been victimized.

The only "fear" they have is the same "fear for their life" routine a racist cop uses to kill an unarmed Black citizen.
 

No....the jig is up.
We can no longer accept them "being afraid" as a justification for their HATRED.
 

 


The folks in WV who correctly identify the COAL company as the problem... well those are the Democrats. Union people.

 

True.
But even in the Unions...and I've been in them...you have a core element of racist poor and working class White men who hate Liberals and Progressives and love Trump and Reagan.


I've met them.

Their hatred override their own self-preservation.
Like worker bees or ants...they will sacrifice their own lives for the "hive" which is the system.

 

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